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  Note that if $A=operatornameId_n$, then $A^3-3A^2-A+3operatornameId_n=0$, in spite of the fact that the only root of the characteristic polynomial of $operatornameId_n$ has multiplicity $n$. So, no, you don't have to prove that all roots of the characteristic polynomial of $A$ have multiplicity $1$.
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We have :

$A^3-3A^2-A+3I_n = 0 $

how can i prove that A is diagonalizable .

I don't know how to do when A is written this way

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  Note that if $A=operatornameId_n$, then $A^3-3A^2-A+3operatornameId_n=0$, in spite of the fact that the only root of the characteristic polynomial of $operatornameId_n$ has multiplicity $n$. So, no, you don't have to prove that all roots of the characteristic polynomial of $A$ have multiplicity $1$.
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We have :

$A^3-3A^2-A+3I_n = 0 $

how can i prove that A is diagonalizable .

I don't know how to do when A is written this way

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The polynomial $P(X)=X^3-3X^2-X+3 = (X-1)(X-3)(X+1)$ has three distincts real roots and you have $P(A)=0$, so $A$ is diagonalizable over $mathbbR$.

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  I think you should provide more explanation for how you go from "three [distinct] real roots" to "diagonalizable".
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  @Acccumulation In my country, when we learn things about diagonalization, one of the first criterias we learn is that "if there exists a polynomial $P$ with distincts simple zeros such that $P(A)=0$, then $A$ is diagonalizable". That's why I thought it was a well-known criteria... If you want an explanation, then one can say that the minimal polynomial has to divide this one, so it has also distinct simple zeros, and it is enough to conclude... no ?
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Solving a simpler example, $A-cI_n=0$, it's clear that $a_(i,i)=c$ because $a_(i,j) - cI_(i,j) = 0$ for all $i,j in 1,dots,n$. From here, a slightly more complicated example is $(A-cI)(A-dI)=0$ forces two conditions (for diagonal elements of $A$ and off-diagonal elements of $A$) that will lead you to a solution for general matrix polynomials.

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We know that the minimal polynomial divides any polynomial that $A$ is a root of. It's pretty easy to guess that $x=1$ is a root, and using polynomial division you can find that the other two roots are $x=-1, x=3$. Since all the roots are of multiplicity $1$, all of the roots of the minimal polynomial are of multiplicity $1$, and so $A$ is diagonalizable.

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  Nice way to do it using this prorpiety , i was wondering what can i say about A being inversible
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The polynomial $P(X)=X^3-3X^2-X+3 = (X-1)(X-3)(X+1)$ has three distincts real roots and you have $P(A)=0$, so $A$ is diagonalizable over $mathbbR$.

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  @Acccumulation In my country, when we learn things about diagonalization, one of the first criterias we learn is that "if there exists a polynomial $P$ with distincts simple zeros such that $P(A)=0$, then $A$ is diagonalizable". That's why I thought it was a well-known criteria... If you want an explanation, then one can say that the minimal polynomial has to divide this one, so it has also distinct simple zeros, and it is enough to conclude... no ?
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The polynomial $P(X)=X^3-3X^2-X+3 = (X-1)(X-3)(X+1)$ has three distincts real roots and you have $P(A)=0$, so $A$ is diagonalizable over $mathbbR$.

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  I think you should provide more explanation for how you go from "three [distinct] real roots" to "diagonalizable".
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  @Acccumulation In my country, when we learn things about diagonalization, one of the first criterias we learn is that "if there exists a polynomial $P$ with distincts simple zeros such that $P(A)=0$, then $A$ is diagonalizable". That's why I thought it was a well-known criteria... If you want an explanation, then one can say that the minimal polynomial has to divide this one, so it has also distinct simple zeros, and it is enough to conclude... no ?
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The polynomial $P(X)=X^3-3X^2-X+3 = (X-1)(X-3)(X+1)$ has three distincts real roots and you have $P(A)=0$, so $A$ is diagonalizable over $mathbbR$.

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Solving a simpler example, $A-cI_n=0$, it's clear that $a_(i,i)=c$ because $a_(i,j) - cI_(i,j) = 0$ for all $i,j in 1,dots,n$. From here, a slightly more complicated example is $(A-cI)(A-dI)=0$ forces two conditions (for diagonal elements of $A$ and off-diagonal elements of $A$) that will lead you to a solution for general matrix polynomials.

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Solving a simpler example, $A-cI_n=0$, it's clear that $a_(i,i)=c$ because $a_(i,j) - cI_(i,j) = 0$ for all $i,j in 1,dots,n$. From here, a slightly more complicated example is $(A-cI)(A-dI)=0$ forces two conditions (for diagonal elements of $A$ and off-diagonal elements of $A$) that will lead you to a solution for general matrix polynomials.

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Solving a simpler example, $A-cI_n=0$, it's clear that $a_(i,i)=c$ because $a_(i,j) - cI_(i,j) = 0$ for all $i,j in 1,dots,n$. From here, a slightly more complicated example is $(A-cI)(A-dI)=0$ forces two conditions (for diagonal elements of $A$ and off-diagonal elements of $A$) that will lead you to a solution for general matrix polynomials.

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We know that the minimal polynomial divides any polynomial that $A$ is a root of. It's pretty easy to guess that $x=1$ is a root, and using polynomial division you can find that the other two roots are $x=-1, x=3$. Since all the roots are of multiplicity $1$, all of the roots of the minimal polynomial are of multiplicity $1$, and so $A$ is diagonalizable.

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  Nice way to do it using this prorpiety , i was wondering what can i say about A being inversible
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We know that the minimal polynomial divides any polynomial that $A$ is a root of. It's pretty easy to guess that $x=1$ is a root, and using polynomial division you can find that the other two roots are $x=-1, x=3$. Since all the roots are of multiplicity $1$, all of the roots of the minimal polynomial are of multiplicity $1$, and so $A$ is diagonalizable.

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  Nice way to do it using this prorpiety , i was wondering what can i say about A being inversible
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We know that the minimal polynomial divides any polynomial that $A$ is a root of. It's pretty easy to guess that $x=1$ is a root, and using polynomial division you can find that the other two roots are $x=-1, x=3$. Since all the roots are of multiplicity $1$, all of the roots of the minimal polynomial are of multiplicity $1$, and so $A$ is diagonalizable.

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answered Apr 4 at 20:41

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answered Apr 4 at 20:41

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