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Availability Group backup preference not changing to primary



The Next CEO of Stack OverflowAlwaysOn Availability Group Automatic Failover does not workReplicate a database to one secondary replica, but not the other secondary replica using Availability GroupScheduling backup jobs for an Availability GroupAny disadvantage to automatically changing FULL backup on AlwaysON Secondary to COPY_ONLY?SQL Server high availability fn_hadr_backup_is_preferred_replica returns 0 zero on secondaryOla Hallengren Index maintenance on servers with Availability GroupsOne Availability group, two primary nodesWhat impact does using backup preference on Availability Groups have?AlwaysOn Error: The target database is participating in an availability group and is currently not accessible for queriesBackup Plan on Always On using Maintenance Wizard doing Tlogs on Primary and Secondary










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I have an availability group setup and I'm using Ola Hallengren backup scripts. At setup of the Availability group, the default option of Prefer Secondary was set, where it should have been changed to primary.



Once I noticed this, I tried to set the backup preference to Primary, but it doesn't change, it stays on Prefer Secondary.



Has anyone come across this before? I'm using the user interface (availability group wizard) to make the change.










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  • Do you also have the "backup priority" setting configured? I've run into problems with that in our AAG. I.E. Set to "no preference", but primary still doesn't take a backup because secondary "priority" is set to "50" and primary was set to "48".

    – Jacob H
    yesterday











  • @JacobH thanks, one of my secondaries did have a different Priority due to it being on my DR site, so I lowered it but in the end i opted for the T-SQL option that chnaged it for me. ALTER AVAILABILITY GROUP [<AG NAME>] SET (AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE = PRIMARY)

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  • Dennis, so we are clear, there are two settings that we're referring to, AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE and BACKUP_PRIORITY. Both are required to be configured for Ola's scripts to function. This is what I've found.

    – Jacob H
    yesterday
















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I have an availability group setup and I'm using Ola Hallengren backup scripts. At setup of the Availability group, the default option of Prefer Secondary was set, where it should have been changed to primary.



Once I noticed this, I tried to set the backup preference to Primary, but it doesn't change, it stays on Prefer Secondary.



Has anyone come across this before? I'm using the user interface (availability group wizard) to make the change.










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  • Do you also have the "backup priority" setting configured? I've run into problems with that in our AAG. I.E. Set to "no preference", but primary still doesn't take a backup because secondary "priority" is set to "50" and primary was set to "48".

    – Jacob H
    yesterday











  • @JacobH thanks, one of my secondaries did have a different Priority due to it being on my DR site, so I lowered it but in the end i opted for the T-SQL option that chnaged it for me. ALTER AVAILABILITY GROUP [<AG NAME>] SET (AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE = PRIMARY)

    – Dennis Finke
    yesterday











  • Dennis, so we are clear, there are two settings that we're referring to, AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE and BACKUP_PRIORITY. Both are required to be configured for Ola's scripts to function. This is what I've found.

    – Jacob H
    yesterday














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I have an availability group setup and I'm using Ola Hallengren backup scripts. At setup of the Availability group, the default option of Prefer Secondary was set, where it should have been changed to primary.



Once I noticed this, I tried to set the backup preference to Primary, but it doesn't change, it stays on Prefer Secondary.



Has anyone come across this before? I'm using the user interface (availability group wizard) to make the change.










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I have an availability group setup and I'm using Ola Hallengren backup scripts. At setup of the Availability group, the default option of Prefer Secondary was set, where it should have been changed to primary.



Once I noticed this, I tried to set the backup preference to Primary, but it doesn't change, it stays on Prefer Secondary.



Has anyone come across this before? I'm using the user interface (availability group wizard) to make the change.







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  • Do you also have the "backup priority" setting configured? I've run into problems with that in our AAG. I.E. Set to "no preference", but primary still doesn't take a backup because secondary "priority" is set to "50" and primary was set to "48".

    – Jacob H
    yesterday











  • @JacobH thanks, one of my secondaries did have a different Priority due to it being on my DR site, so I lowered it but in the end i opted for the T-SQL option that chnaged it for me. ALTER AVAILABILITY GROUP [<AG NAME>] SET (AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE = PRIMARY)

    – Dennis Finke
    yesterday











  • Dennis, so we are clear, there are two settings that we're referring to, AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE and BACKUP_PRIORITY. Both are required to be configured for Ola's scripts to function. This is what I've found.

    – Jacob H
    yesterday


















  • Do you also have the "backup priority" setting configured? I've run into problems with that in our AAG. I.E. Set to "no preference", but primary still doesn't take a backup because secondary "priority" is set to "50" and primary was set to "48".

    – Jacob H
    yesterday











  • @JacobH thanks, one of my secondaries did have a different Priority due to it being on my DR site, so I lowered it but in the end i opted for the T-SQL option that chnaged it for me. ALTER AVAILABILITY GROUP [<AG NAME>] SET (AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE = PRIMARY)

    – Dennis Finke
    yesterday











  • Dennis, so we are clear, there are two settings that we're referring to, AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE and BACKUP_PRIORITY. Both are required to be configured for Ola's scripts to function. This is what I've found.

    – Jacob H
    yesterday

















Do you also have the "backup priority" setting configured? I've run into problems with that in our AAG. I.E. Set to "no preference", but primary still doesn't take a backup because secondary "priority" is set to "50" and primary was set to "48".

– Jacob H
yesterday





Do you also have the "backup priority" setting configured? I've run into problems with that in our AAG. I.E. Set to "no preference", but primary still doesn't take a backup because secondary "priority" is set to "50" and primary was set to "48".

– Jacob H
yesterday













@JacobH thanks, one of my secondaries did have a different Priority due to it being on my DR site, so I lowered it but in the end i opted for the T-SQL option that chnaged it for me. ALTER AVAILABILITY GROUP [<AG NAME>] SET (AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE = PRIMARY)

– Dennis Finke
yesterday





@JacobH thanks, one of my secondaries did have a different Priority due to it being on my DR site, so I lowered it but in the end i opted for the T-SQL option that chnaged it for me. ALTER AVAILABILITY GROUP [<AG NAME>] SET (AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE = PRIMARY)

– Dennis Finke
yesterday













Dennis, so we are clear, there are two settings that we're referring to, AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE and BACKUP_PRIORITY. Both are required to be configured for Ola's scripts to function. This is what I've found.

– Jacob H
yesterday






Dennis, so we are clear, there are two settings that we're referring to, AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE and BACKUP_PRIORITY. Both are required to be configured for Ola's scripts to function. This is what I've found.

– Jacob H
yesterday











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I tried to set the backup preference to Primary but it doesn't change, it stays on Prefer Secondary




I'm not sure if you mean the user interface, or if the actual effect of the change didn't occur as you expected. My answer assumes the latter.



To be clear about something that I find a little confusing: this setting is not something that automatically affects how backups are run. It's simply a place where you, as a DBA, can store "metadata" about how you prefer backups to be taken.



This is documented, but it's not obvious at all from the user interface. Here's the quote from the docs:




❕ Important



There is no enforcement of the AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE setting. The interpretation of this preference depends on the logic, if any, that you script into back jobs for the databases in a given availability group. The automated backup preference setting has no impact on ad hoc backups.




After setting this, you need to update your backup jobs with code like this (also lifted from the docs):



IF (NOT sys.fn_hadr_backup_is_preferred_replica(@DBNAME)) 
BEGIN
Select 'This is not the preferred replica, exiting with success';
RETURN 0 - This is a normal, expected condition, so the script returns success
END
BACKUP DATABASE @DBNAME TO DISK=<disk>
WITH COPY_ONLY;


Using sp_helptext to view the source of sys.fn_hadr_backup_is_preferred_replica, it can be seen that this takes into account both the AG-level AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE setting, and the replica-level BACKUP_PRIORITY setting.



Note: since you're using Ola's scripts, this is already taken into account




If you just didn't see the value change in the user interface, I would suggest using the "script" button to show the T-SQL that's being run by the UI, and then running that script manually to see if the change is properly made.






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    I tried to set the backup preference to Primary but it doesn't change, it stays on Prefer Secondary




    I'm not sure if you mean the user interface, or if the actual effect of the change didn't occur as you expected. My answer assumes the latter.



    To be clear about something that I find a little confusing: this setting is not something that automatically affects how backups are run. It's simply a place where you, as a DBA, can store "metadata" about how you prefer backups to be taken.



    This is documented, but it's not obvious at all from the user interface. Here's the quote from the docs:




    ❕ Important



    There is no enforcement of the AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE setting. The interpretation of this preference depends on the logic, if any, that you script into back jobs for the databases in a given availability group. The automated backup preference setting has no impact on ad hoc backups.




    After setting this, you need to update your backup jobs with code like this (also lifted from the docs):



    IF (NOT sys.fn_hadr_backup_is_preferred_replica(@DBNAME)) 
    BEGIN
    Select 'This is not the preferred replica, exiting with success';
    RETURN 0 - This is a normal, expected condition, so the script returns success
    END
    BACKUP DATABASE @DBNAME TO DISK=<disk>
    WITH COPY_ONLY;


    Using sp_helptext to view the source of sys.fn_hadr_backup_is_preferred_replica, it can be seen that this takes into account both the AG-level AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE setting, and the replica-level BACKUP_PRIORITY setting.



    Note: since you're using Ola's scripts, this is already taken into account




    If you just didn't see the value change in the user interface, I would suggest using the "script" button to show the T-SQL that's being run by the UI, and then running that script manually to see if the change is properly made.






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      I tried to set the backup preference to Primary but it doesn't change, it stays on Prefer Secondary




      I'm not sure if you mean the user interface, or if the actual effect of the change didn't occur as you expected. My answer assumes the latter.



      To be clear about something that I find a little confusing: this setting is not something that automatically affects how backups are run. It's simply a place where you, as a DBA, can store "metadata" about how you prefer backups to be taken.



      This is documented, but it's not obvious at all from the user interface. Here's the quote from the docs:




      ❕ Important



      There is no enforcement of the AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE setting. The interpretation of this preference depends on the logic, if any, that you script into back jobs for the databases in a given availability group. The automated backup preference setting has no impact on ad hoc backups.




      After setting this, you need to update your backup jobs with code like this (also lifted from the docs):



      IF (NOT sys.fn_hadr_backup_is_preferred_replica(@DBNAME)) 
      BEGIN
      Select 'This is not the preferred replica, exiting with success';
      RETURN 0 - This is a normal, expected condition, so the script returns success
      END
      BACKUP DATABASE @DBNAME TO DISK=<disk>
      WITH COPY_ONLY;


      Using sp_helptext to view the source of sys.fn_hadr_backup_is_preferred_replica, it can be seen that this takes into account both the AG-level AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE setting, and the replica-level BACKUP_PRIORITY setting.



      Note: since you're using Ola's scripts, this is already taken into account




      If you just didn't see the value change in the user interface, I would suggest using the "script" button to show the T-SQL that's being run by the UI, and then running that script manually to see if the change is properly made.






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        I tried to set the backup preference to Primary but it doesn't change, it stays on Prefer Secondary




        I'm not sure if you mean the user interface, or if the actual effect of the change didn't occur as you expected. My answer assumes the latter.



        To be clear about something that I find a little confusing: this setting is not something that automatically affects how backups are run. It's simply a place where you, as a DBA, can store "metadata" about how you prefer backups to be taken.



        This is documented, but it's not obvious at all from the user interface. Here's the quote from the docs:




        ❕ Important



        There is no enforcement of the AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE setting. The interpretation of this preference depends on the logic, if any, that you script into back jobs for the databases in a given availability group. The automated backup preference setting has no impact on ad hoc backups.




        After setting this, you need to update your backup jobs with code like this (also lifted from the docs):



        IF (NOT sys.fn_hadr_backup_is_preferred_replica(@DBNAME)) 
        BEGIN
        Select 'This is not the preferred replica, exiting with success';
        RETURN 0 - This is a normal, expected condition, so the script returns success
        END
        BACKUP DATABASE @DBNAME TO DISK=<disk>
        WITH COPY_ONLY;


        Using sp_helptext to view the source of sys.fn_hadr_backup_is_preferred_replica, it can be seen that this takes into account both the AG-level AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE setting, and the replica-level BACKUP_PRIORITY setting.



        Note: since you're using Ola's scripts, this is already taken into account




        If you just didn't see the value change in the user interface, I would suggest using the "script" button to show the T-SQL that's being run by the UI, and then running that script manually to see if the change is properly made.






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        I tried to set the backup preference to Primary but it doesn't change, it stays on Prefer Secondary




        I'm not sure if you mean the user interface, or if the actual effect of the change didn't occur as you expected. My answer assumes the latter.



        To be clear about something that I find a little confusing: this setting is not something that automatically affects how backups are run. It's simply a place where you, as a DBA, can store "metadata" about how you prefer backups to be taken.



        This is documented, but it's not obvious at all from the user interface. Here's the quote from the docs:




        ❕ Important



        There is no enforcement of the AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE setting. The interpretation of this preference depends on the logic, if any, that you script into back jobs for the databases in a given availability group. The automated backup preference setting has no impact on ad hoc backups.




        After setting this, you need to update your backup jobs with code like this (also lifted from the docs):



        IF (NOT sys.fn_hadr_backup_is_preferred_replica(@DBNAME)) 
        BEGIN
        Select 'This is not the preferred replica, exiting with success';
        RETURN 0 - This is a normal, expected condition, so the script returns success
        END
        BACKUP DATABASE @DBNAME TO DISK=<disk>
        WITH COPY_ONLY;


        Using sp_helptext to view the source of sys.fn_hadr_backup_is_preferred_replica, it can be seen that this takes into account both the AG-level AUTOMATED_BACKUP_PREFERENCE setting, and the replica-level BACKUP_PRIORITY setting.



        Note: since you're using Ola's scripts, this is already taken into account




        If you just didn't see the value change in the user interface, I would suggest using the "script" button to show the T-SQL that's being run by the UI, and then running that script manually to see if the change is properly made.







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