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Is it professional to write unrelated content in an almost-empty email?
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I am employed in a consultancy company and I work at the client workplace. Monthly, I have a client employee sign a timesheet to certify the number of hours I have actually worked.
I then scan the timesheet and send it by email to a colleague in another department, I'm not sure if HR, Accountant or something like that.
In the body of the email, I just kinda repeat the content of the object, being sure to write the month and the year to which the timesheet refer and greetings at the start and at the end, but obviously, the email tends to be pretty boring since the real deal is the attached file.
So, I wanted to start adding something unique, like a quote taken from the internet or some kind of random curiosity. I would pay attention to be as neutral as possible to not offend my colleague or the managers I add in CC.
Would you consider such a behaviour a unprofessional? What do you usually write in the body of emails which really have no body?
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I am employed in a consultancy company and I work at the client workplace. Monthly, I have a client employee sign a timesheet to certify the number of hours I have actually worked.
I then scan the timesheet and send it by email to a colleague in another department, I'm not sure if HR, Accountant or something like that.
In the body of the email, I just kinda repeat the content of the object, being sure to write the month and the year to which the timesheet refer and greetings at the start and at the end, but obviously, the email tends to be pretty boring since the real deal is the attached file.
So, I wanted to start adding something unique, like a quote taken from the internet or some kind of random curiosity. I would pay attention to be as neutral as possible to not offend my colleague or the managers I add in CC.
Would you consider such a behaviour a unprofessional? What do you usually write in the body of emails which really have no body?
professionalism colleagues email italy
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Greetings fellow robots, Here are your daily programming updates. Have a high throughput day and don't forget to change your batteries.
– AffableAmbler
yesterday
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Not everyone enjoys reading trite quotes, I actually find them quite annoying. Keep that in mind: the recipient(s), whoever they are, may not appreciate the added content regardless of professionalism.
– Alexandre Aubrey
yesterday
22
A time sheet is a time sheet. The people who receive them have seen thousands of them already, and they know what they are and what to do with them. Don't even waste your time (and theirs) " kinda repeating the content of the object." Frankly, if you sent me the sort of nonsense you are asking about more than once, I would ring your boss and give him a right verbal ****ing, ending with something like "Doesn't this idiot working for you have a proper job to do?"
– alephzero
yesterday
13
You might be interested to know that some emails do not even need any body at all, whatsoever. Sometimes the subject says it all. Some people even end such email subject-lines with " eom" for end-of-message to make it obvious, so you don't even need to open it. "Leftover sandwiches in the break room - eom"
– Aaron
yesterday
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I'm almost tempted to delete the body of this question (it's not needed, since the subject captures the question anyway) and replace it with a motivational quote about Adversity. :-)
– Kevin
yesterday
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I am employed in a consultancy company and I work at the client workplace. Monthly, I have a client employee sign a timesheet to certify the number of hours I have actually worked.
I then scan the timesheet and send it by email to a colleague in another department, I'm not sure if HR, Accountant or something like that.
In the body of the email, I just kinda repeat the content of the object, being sure to write the month and the year to which the timesheet refer and greetings at the start and at the end, but obviously, the email tends to be pretty boring since the real deal is the attached file.
So, I wanted to start adding something unique, like a quote taken from the internet or some kind of random curiosity. I would pay attention to be as neutral as possible to not offend my colleague or the managers I add in CC.
Would you consider such a behaviour a unprofessional? What do you usually write in the body of emails which really have no body?
professionalism colleagues email italy
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I am employed in a consultancy company and I work at the client workplace. Monthly, I have a client employee sign a timesheet to certify the number of hours I have actually worked.
I then scan the timesheet and send it by email to a colleague in another department, I'm not sure if HR, Accountant or something like that.
In the body of the email, I just kinda repeat the content of the object, being sure to write the month and the year to which the timesheet refer and greetings at the start and at the end, but obviously, the email tends to be pretty boring since the real deal is the attached file.
So, I wanted to start adding something unique, like a quote taken from the internet or some kind of random curiosity. I would pay attention to be as neutral as possible to not offend my colleague or the managers I add in CC.
Would you consider such a behaviour a unprofessional? What do you usually write in the body of emails which really have no body?
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Greetings fellow robots, Here are your daily programming updates. Have a high throughput day and don't forget to change your batteries.
– AffableAmbler
yesterday
68
Not everyone enjoys reading trite quotes, I actually find them quite annoying. Keep that in mind: the recipient(s), whoever they are, may not appreciate the added content regardless of professionalism.
– Alexandre Aubrey
yesterday
22
A time sheet is a time sheet. The people who receive them have seen thousands of them already, and they know what they are and what to do with them. Don't even waste your time (and theirs) " kinda repeating the content of the object." Frankly, if you sent me the sort of nonsense you are asking about more than once, I would ring your boss and give him a right verbal ****ing, ending with something like "Doesn't this idiot working for you have a proper job to do?"
– alephzero
yesterday
13
You might be interested to know that some emails do not even need any body at all, whatsoever. Sometimes the subject says it all. Some people even end such email subject-lines with " eom" for end-of-message to make it obvious, so you don't even need to open it. "Leftover sandwiches in the break room - eom"
– Aaron
yesterday
14
I'm almost tempted to delete the body of this question (it's not needed, since the subject captures the question anyway) and replace it with a motivational quote about Adversity. :-)
– Kevin
yesterday
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Greetings fellow robots, Here are your daily programming updates. Have a high throughput day and don't forget to change your batteries.
– AffableAmbler
yesterday
68
Not everyone enjoys reading trite quotes, I actually find them quite annoying. Keep that in mind: the recipient(s), whoever they are, may not appreciate the added content regardless of professionalism.
– Alexandre Aubrey
yesterday
22
A time sheet is a time sheet. The people who receive them have seen thousands of them already, and they know what they are and what to do with them. Don't even waste your time (and theirs) " kinda repeating the content of the object." Frankly, if you sent me the sort of nonsense you are asking about more than once, I would ring your boss and give him a right verbal ****ing, ending with something like "Doesn't this idiot working for you have a proper job to do?"
– alephzero
yesterday
13
You might be interested to know that some emails do not even need any body at all, whatsoever. Sometimes the subject says it all. Some people even end such email subject-lines with " eom" for end-of-message to make it obvious, so you don't even need to open it. "Leftover sandwiches in the break room - eom"
– Aaron
yesterday
14
I'm almost tempted to delete the body of this question (it's not needed, since the subject captures the question anyway) and replace it with a motivational quote about Adversity. :-)
– Kevin
yesterday
28
28
Greetings fellow robots, Here are your daily programming updates. Have a high throughput day and don't forget to change your batteries.
– AffableAmbler
yesterday
Greetings fellow robots, Here are your daily programming updates. Have a high throughput day and don't forget to change your batteries.
– AffableAmbler
yesterday
68
68
Not everyone enjoys reading trite quotes, I actually find them quite annoying. Keep that in mind: the recipient(s), whoever they are, may not appreciate the added content regardless of professionalism.
– Alexandre Aubrey
yesterday
Not everyone enjoys reading trite quotes, I actually find them quite annoying. Keep that in mind: the recipient(s), whoever they are, may not appreciate the added content regardless of professionalism.
– Alexandre Aubrey
yesterday
22
22
A time sheet is a time sheet. The people who receive them have seen thousands of them already, and they know what they are and what to do with them. Don't even waste your time (and theirs) " kinda repeating the content of the object." Frankly, if you sent me the sort of nonsense you are asking about more than once, I would ring your boss and give him a right verbal ****ing, ending with something like "Doesn't this idiot working for you have a proper job to do?"
– alephzero
yesterday
A time sheet is a time sheet. The people who receive them have seen thousands of them already, and they know what they are and what to do with them. Don't even waste your time (and theirs) " kinda repeating the content of the object." Frankly, if you sent me the sort of nonsense you are asking about more than once, I would ring your boss and give him a right verbal ****ing, ending with something like "Doesn't this idiot working for you have a proper job to do?"
– alephzero
yesterday
13
13
You might be interested to know that some emails do not even need any body at all, whatsoever. Sometimes the subject says it all. Some people even end such email subject-lines with " eom" for end-of-message to make it obvious, so you don't even need to open it. "Leftover sandwiches in the break room - eom"
– Aaron
yesterday
You might be interested to know that some emails do not even need any body at all, whatsoever. Sometimes the subject says it all. Some people even end such email subject-lines with " eom" for end-of-message to make it obvious, so you don't even need to open it. "Leftover sandwiches in the break room - eom"
– Aaron
yesterday
14
14
I'm almost tempted to delete the body of this question (it's not needed, since the subject captures the question anyway) and replace it with a motivational quote about Adversity. :-)
– Kevin
yesterday
I'm almost tempted to delete the body of this question (it's not needed, since the subject captures the question anyway) and replace it with a motivational quote about Adversity. :-)
– Kevin
yesterday
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Just leave the email with the attachment and state
This timesheet refers to X.
Please see attached.
Regards, Bracco
Just leave the quote out of it and keep the email basic. Your emails are for the recipient to do their job. As long as you allow them to do that then don't complicate it or confuse them.
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Or just "Timesheet for X attached. Regards,".
– a CVn
yesterday
5
That's three more lines that I would write. I'd give it the subject "Time sheet XXX 20YY" and attach the file.
– Abigail
yesterday
2
And automate this process where possible through email templating/mail merge type software, perhaps raise the issue with somebody, there are better ways for the company to make use of your time.
– Vix
23 hours ago
@Abigail I've noticed that sending a blank e-mail with only attachment tends to get caught in spam filters. It's a technique where spam or phishing content is sent as an attachment or image to bypass content filters. That's one reason why many clients complain when you don't have body text. Also modern clients warn you when you say "attached" and forget to put in an attachment.
– user71659
22 hours ago
Related: The Email Charter
– mgarciaisaia
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If the e-mail is basically "complete" with subject line and attachment such as your example then I might add "see attached" or something but there's really no point in bulking the e-mail out with "fluff". They want the attachment - they get the attachment and use it. Job done.
Random quotes from the internet will just make you look immature - not that it will be a big deal though since people probably won't read them.
I agree they most probably don't read them, I don't agree I would look immature. Unprofessional for sure, according to all answers, but I for myself would not consider immature such behaviour if I was on the other side of the email.
– bracco23
yesterday
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@bracco23 Immature is a matter of opinion, but in business you should focus on business: getting things done. If it's not relevant to business, leave it out of the email. When it's someone you work with personally and have a decent, friendly relationship with, that's different. This is not one of those cases. Keep it strictly professional.
– only_pro
yesterday
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@bracco23: Sharing irrelevant information like quotes etc is something teenagers often do (and that's okay, it's part of being a teenager to figure out and display your identity). The behavior is therefore generally perceived to be that of a teenager, and thus immature. It's not direct proof of immaturity, but it's a lack of profssional experience combined with a behavior commonly found in teenagers that leads to the inference of immaturity.
– Flater
yesterday
7
@bracco23 The point is that you aren't on the other side of the email. A different person is, and that person will probably consider the quotes immature. It's unfair that they form independent opinions of your behavior based on standards other than your own, but that's out of your control. It's one of the things we can't change.
– Ed Plunkett
yesterday
I can see something like that not being perceived as immature, in specific company cultures. (Maybe if your company is selling essential oils? :D).
– Lichtbringer
yesterday
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Hi bracco23,
please see my answer in the attachment.
Greetings, Chris
There is no reason to bloat your email with unnecessary text. These
people will handle a huge bunch of those emails, you will disturb their
workflow if you keep adding noise.
Also your boss might not get offended by your random quotes, but he
might get offended because your browsing the internet for useless
stuff.
Keep it short and simple.
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@Zabba Sorry, this time with attachment.
– Chris
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Is it professional to write unrelated content in an almost-emtpy email?
No. Why would you confuse the reader by adding something random?
Try to keep it short and simple.
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Informality and unrelated content in work messages are not professional. That does not make it unprofessional.
When this is acceptable and when it isn't is very nuanced, and depends on the office culture, the audience, how often you do it, how well it is received, your particular relationship with everyone who will see it, your reputation, your age, etc. Generally, if it in any way impedes business functioning the only professional response is to stop.
People who have these social skills are more popular, more influential, and can see concrete advantages in their careers.
The OP doesn't even know who he's sending these timesheets to. Unsollicited communication is spam, not related to any social skill..
– George M
yesterday
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@GeorgeM Sending timesheets to the timesheet person isn't unsolicited communication. It's literally a part of that person's job to receive timesheets.
– David Richerby
yesterday
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The timesheets are not unsolicited, but random quotes and personalized messages are.
– George M
yesterday
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There's no reason or need to "adorn" the email with superfluous text. There's also no reason to write the same thing in the email as is contained in the attached time sheet.
Attached is my time sheet for the period xx/xx/xxxx through
xx/xx/xxxx. Thank you.
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The random quotes probably are of no benefit to the recipient, the people who choose accounting like staring at numbers all day, they don't need a surprise package from the real world, if they need a break they can go to the water cooler, stare out the window, make some paper airplanes, etc when they are ready for it.
Stating your name again in the email is probably not needed it's already in the from header and in the signature at the base, the date also is not needed.
The summary is also not needed, but it is not without merit. having a precis there (like say just the total hours) could help with resolving disputes in a timely manner eg if the attachment is hard to read or if there is a misunderstanding, and they notice that your number does not match the time-sheet you could find out and resolve it before pay-day.
If you are submitting the timesheet late, having the date could be useful to help you find the email at a later time should you need to. So having the date in the subject line on late submissions could be useful.
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As many have said unrelated information is not needed. If you state the time period that is fine, because it can let them see at a glance which time period without having to open the attachment.
Putting the time period in the subject can be a big help help also. Not only can they find the appropriate email it can also help to avoid the situation where the email software tries to group all the email messages that have the simple subject such "timecard" into one conversation.
The worst situation is to only have fluff and no other useful information. You might be training them to always skip reading the short emails because they believe they always only have fluff.
Always include a signature block with all your expected contact information.
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This really depends on your client company. I've seen different companys. In some of them (mostly young and related to creativity), people would do funny things, play jokes on each others (and also on their clients, but they never crosses a line), use "4-letter-words" in their day-to-day-language - things which on this site would not be seen as professional. In others, those things could be your death sentence (not literally).
So, I would suggest you to take a look on them. How do they speak? How do they write? How "funny" are they and how serious is work for them? Are they like the members of this Stack Exchange site? I think those questions may help you evaluating what to do.
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Just leave the email with the attachment and state
This timesheet refers to X.
Please see attached.
Regards, Bracco
Just leave the quote out of it and keep the email basic. Your emails are for the recipient to do their job. As long as you allow them to do that then don't complicate it or confuse them.
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Or just "Timesheet for X attached. Regards,".
– a CVn
yesterday
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That's three more lines that I would write. I'd give it the subject "Time sheet XXX 20YY" and attach the file.
– Abigail
yesterday
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And automate this process where possible through email templating/mail merge type software, perhaps raise the issue with somebody, there are better ways for the company to make use of your time.
– Vix
23 hours ago
@Abigail I've noticed that sending a blank e-mail with only attachment tends to get caught in spam filters. It's a technique where spam or phishing content is sent as an attachment or image to bypass content filters. That's one reason why many clients complain when you don't have body text. Also modern clients warn you when you say "attached" and forget to put in an attachment.
– user71659
22 hours ago
Related: The Email Charter
– mgarciaisaia
12 hours ago
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Just leave the email with the attachment and state
This timesheet refers to X.
Please see attached.
Regards, Bracco
Just leave the quote out of it and keep the email basic. Your emails are for the recipient to do their job. As long as you allow them to do that then don't complicate it or confuse them.
7
Or just "Timesheet for X attached. Regards,".
– a CVn
yesterday
5
That's three more lines that I would write. I'd give it the subject "Time sheet XXX 20YY" and attach the file.
– Abigail
yesterday
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And automate this process where possible through email templating/mail merge type software, perhaps raise the issue with somebody, there are better ways for the company to make use of your time.
– Vix
23 hours ago
@Abigail I've noticed that sending a blank e-mail with only attachment tends to get caught in spam filters. It's a technique where spam or phishing content is sent as an attachment or image to bypass content filters. That's one reason why many clients complain when you don't have body text. Also modern clients warn you when you say "attached" and forget to put in an attachment.
– user71659
22 hours ago
Related: The Email Charter
– mgarciaisaia
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Just leave the email with the attachment and state
This timesheet refers to X.
Please see attached.
Regards, Bracco
Just leave the quote out of it and keep the email basic. Your emails are for the recipient to do their job. As long as you allow them to do that then don't complicate it or confuse them.
Just leave the email with the attachment and state
This timesheet refers to X.
Please see attached.
Regards, Bracco
Just leave the quote out of it and keep the email basic. Your emails are for the recipient to do their job. As long as you allow them to do that then don't complicate it or confuse them.
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Or just "Timesheet for X attached. Regards,".
– a CVn
yesterday
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That's three more lines that I would write. I'd give it the subject "Time sheet XXX 20YY" and attach the file.
– Abigail
yesterday
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And automate this process where possible through email templating/mail merge type software, perhaps raise the issue with somebody, there are better ways for the company to make use of your time.
– Vix
23 hours ago
@Abigail I've noticed that sending a blank e-mail with only attachment tends to get caught in spam filters. It's a technique where spam or phishing content is sent as an attachment or image to bypass content filters. That's one reason why many clients complain when you don't have body text. Also modern clients warn you when you say "attached" and forget to put in an attachment.
– user71659
22 hours ago
Related: The Email Charter
– mgarciaisaia
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Or just "Timesheet for X attached. Regards,".
– a CVn
yesterday
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That's three more lines that I would write. I'd give it the subject "Time sheet XXX 20YY" and attach the file.
– Abigail
yesterday
2
And automate this process where possible through email templating/mail merge type software, perhaps raise the issue with somebody, there are better ways for the company to make use of your time.
– Vix
23 hours ago
@Abigail I've noticed that sending a blank e-mail with only attachment tends to get caught in spam filters. It's a technique where spam or phishing content is sent as an attachment or image to bypass content filters. That's one reason why many clients complain when you don't have body text. Also modern clients warn you when you say "attached" and forget to put in an attachment.
– user71659
22 hours ago
Related: The Email Charter
– mgarciaisaia
12 hours ago
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Or just "Timesheet for X attached. Regards,".
– a CVn
yesterday
Or just "Timesheet for X attached. Regards,".
– a CVn
yesterday
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That's three more lines that I would write. I'd give it the subject "Time sheet XXX 20YY" and attach the file.
– Abigail
yesterday
That's three more lines that I would write. I'd give it the subject "Time sheet XXX 20YY" and attach the file.
– Abigail
yesterday
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And automate this process where possible through email templating/mail merge type software, perhaps raise the issue with somebody, there are better ways for the company to make use of your time.
– Vix
23 hours ago
And automate this process where possible through email templating/mail merge type software, perhaps raise the issue with somebody, there are better ways for the company to make use of your time.
– Vix
23 hours ago
@Abigail I've noticed that sending a blank e-mail with only attachment tends to get caught in spam filters. It's a technique where spam or phishing content is sent as an attachment or image to bypass content filters. That's one reason why many clients complain when you don't have body text. Also modern clients warn you when you say "attached" and forget to put in an attachment.
– user71659
22 hours ago
@Abigail I've noticed that sending a blank e-mail with only attachment tends to get caught in spam filters. It's a technique where spam or phishing content is sent as an attachment or image to bypass content filters. That's one reason why many clients complain when you don't have body text. Also modern clients warn you when you say "attached" and forget to put in an attachment.
– user71659
22 hours ago
Related: The Email Charter
– mgarciaisaia
12 hours ago
Related: The Email Charter
– mgarciaisaia
12 hours ago
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If the e-mail is basically "complete" with subject line and attachment such as your example then I might add "see attached" or something but there's really no point in bulking the e-mail out with "fluff". They want the attachment - they get the attachment and use it. Job done.
Random quotes from the internet will just make you look immature - not that it will be a big deal though since people probably won't read them.
I agree they most probably don't read them, I don't agree I would look immature. Unprofessional for sure, according to all answers, but I for myself would not consider immature such behaviour if I was on the other side of the email.
– bracco23
yesterday
6
@bracco23 Immature is a matter of opinion, but in business you should focus on business: getting things done. If it's not relevant to business, leave it out of the email. When it's someone you work with personally and have a decent, friendly relationship with, that's different. This is not one of those cases. Keep it strictly professional.
– only_pro
yesterday
29
@bracco23: Sharing irrelevant information like quotes etc is something teenagers often do (and that's okay, it's part of being a teenager to figure out and display your identity). The behavior is therefore generally perceived to be that of a teenager, and thus immature. It's not direct proof of immaturity, but it's a lack of profssional experience combined with a behavior commonly found in teenagers that leads to the inference of immaturity.
– Flater
yesterday
7
@bracco23 The point is that you aren't on the other side of the email. A different person is, and that person will probably consider the quotes immature. It's unfair that they form independent opinions of your behavior based on standards other than your own, but that's out of your control. It's one of the things we can't change.
– Ed Plunkett
yesterday
I can see something like that not being perceived as immature, in specific company cultures. (Maybe if your company is selling essential oils? :D).
– Lichtbringer
yesterday
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If the e-mail is basically "complete" with subject line and attachment such as your example then I might add "see attached" or something but there's really no point in bulking the e-mail out with "fluff". They want the attachment - they get the attachment and use it. Job done.
Random quotes from the internet will just make you look immature - not that it will be a big deal though since people probably won't read them.
I agree they most probably don't read them, I don't agree I would look immature. Unprofessional for sure, according to all answers, but I for myself would not consider immature such behaviour if I was on the other side of the email.
– bracco23
yesterday
6
@bracco23 Immature is a matter of opinion, but in business you should focus on business: getting things done. If it's not relevant to business, leave it out of the email. When it's someone you work with personally and have a decent, friendly relationship with, that's different. This is not one of those cases. Keep it strictly professional.
– only_pro
yesterday
29
@bracco23: Sharing irrelevant information like quotes etc is something teenagers often do (and that's okay, it's part of being a teenager to figure out and display your identity). The behavior is therefore generally perceived to be that of a teenager, and thus immature. It's not direct proof of immaturity, but it's a lack of profssional experience combined with a behavior commonly found in teenagers that leads to the inference of immaturity.
– Flater
yesterday
7
@bracco23 The point is that you aren't on the other side of the email. A different person is, and that person will probably consider the quotes immature. It's unfair that they form independent opinions of your behavior based on standards other than your own, but that's out of your control. It's one of the things we can't change.
– Ed Plunkett
yesterday
I can see something like that not being perceived as immature, in specific company cultures. (Maybe if your company is selling essential oils? :D).
– Lichtbringer
yesterday
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If the e-mail is basically "complete" with subject line and attachment such as your example then I might add "see attached" or something but there's really no point in bulking the e-mail out with "fluff". They want the attachment - they get the attachment and use it. Job done.
Random quotes from the internet will just make you look immature - not that it will be a big deal though since people probably won't read them.
If the e-mail is basically "complete" with subject line and attachment such as your example then I might add "see attached" or something but there's really no point in bulking the e-mail out with "fluff". They want the attachment - they get the attachment and use it. Job done.
Random quotes from the internet will just make you look immature - not that it will be a big deal though since people probably won't read them.
answered yesterday
motosubatsumotosubatsu
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I agree they most probably don't read them, I don't agree I would look immature. Unprofessional for sure, according to all answers, but I for myself would not consider immature such behaviour if I was on the other side of the email.
– bracco23
yesterday
6
@bracco23 Immature is a matter of opinion, but in business you should focus on business: getting things done. If it's not relevant to business, leave it out of the email. When it's someone you work with personally and have a decent, friendly relationship with, that's different. This is not one of those cases. Keep it strictly professional.
– only_pro
yesterday
29
@bracco23: Sharing irrelevant information like quotes etc is something teenagers often do (and that's okay, it's part of being a teenager to figure out and display your identity). The behavior is therefore generally perceived to be that of a teenager, and thus immature. It's not direct proof of immaturity, but it's a lack of profssional experience combined with a behavior commonly found in teenagers that leads to the inference of immaturity.
– Flater
yesterday
7
@bracco23 The point is that you aren't on the other side of the email. A different person is, and that person will probably consider the quotes immature. It's unfair that they form independent opinions of your behavior based on standards other than your own, but that's out of your control. It's one of the things we can't change.
– Ed Plunkett
yesterday
I can see something like that not being perceived as immature, in specific company cultures. (Maybe if your company is selling essential oils? :D).
– Lichtbringer
yesterday
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I agree they most probably don't read them, I don't agree I would look immature. Unprofessional for sure, according to all answers, but I for myself would not consider immature such behaviour if I was on the other side of the email.
– bracco23
yesterday
6
@bracco23 Immature is a matter of opinion, but in business you should focus on business: getting things done. If it's not relevant to business, leave it out of the email. When it's someone you work with personally and have a decent, friendly relationship with, that's different. This is not one of those cases. Keep it strictly professional.
– only_pro
yesterday
29
@bracco23: Sharing irrelevant information like quotes etc is something teenagers often do (and that's okay, it's part of being a teenager to figure out and display your identity). The behavior is therefore generally perceived to be that of a teenager, and thus immature. It's not direct proof of immaturity, but it's a lack of profssional experience combined with a behavior commonly found in teenagers that leads to the inference of immaturity.
– Flater
yesterday
7
@bracco23 The point is that you aren't on the other side of the email. A different person is, and that person will probably consider the quotes immature. It's unfair that they form independent opinions of your behavior based on standards other than your own, but that's out of your control. It's one of the things we can't change.
– Ed Plunkett
yesterday
I can see something like that not being perceived as immature, in specific company cultures. (Maybe if your company is selling essential oils? :D).
– Lichtbringer
yesterday
I agree they most probably don't read them, I don't agree I would look immature. Unprofessional for sure, according to all answers, but I for myself would not consider immature such behaviour if I was on the other side of the email.
– bracco23
yesterday
I agree they most probably don't read them, I don't agree I would look immature. Unprofessional for sure, according to all answers, but I for myself would not consider immature such behaviour if I was on the other side of the email.
– bracco23
yesterday
6
6
@bracco23 Immature is a matter of opinion, but in business you should focus on business: getting things done. If it's not relevant to business, leave it out of the email. When it's someone you work with personally and have a decent, friendly relationship with, that's different. This is not one of those cases. Keep it strictly professional.
– only_pro
yesterday
@bracco23 Immature is a matter of opinion, but in business you should focus on business: getting things done. If it's not relevant to business, leave it out of the email. When it's someone you work with personally and have a decent, friendly relationship with, that's different. This is not one of those cases. Keep it strictly professional.
– only_pro
yesterday
29
29
@bracco23: Sharing irrelevant information like quotes etc is something teenagers often do (and that's okay, it's part of being a teenager to figure out and display your identity). The behavior is therefore generally perceived to be that of a teenager, and thus immature. It's not direct proof of immaturity, but it's a lack of profssional experience combined with a behavior commonly found in teenagers that leads to the inference of immaturity.
– Flater
yesterday
@bracco23: Sharing irrelevant information like quotes etc is something teenagers often do (and that's okay, it's part of being a teenager to figure out and display your identity). The behavior is therefore generally perceived to be that of a teenager, and thus immature. It's not direct proof of immaturity, but it's a lack of profssional experience combined with a behavior commonly found in teenagers that leads to the inference of immaturity.
– Flater
yesterday
7
7
@bracco23 The point is that you aren't on the other side of the email. A different person is, and that person will probably consider the quotes immature. It's unfair that they form independent opinions of your behavior based on standards other than your own, but that's out of your control. It's one of the things we can't change.
– Ed Plunkett
yesterday
@bracco23 The point is that you aren't on the other side of the email. A different person is, and that person will probably consider the quotes immature. It's unfair that they form independent opinions of your behavior based on standards other than your own, but that's out of your control. It's one of the things we can't change.
– Ed Plunkett
yesterday
I can see something like that not being perceived as immature, in specific company cultures. (Maybe if your company is selling essential oils? :D).
– Lichtbringer
yesterday
I can see something like that not being perceived as immature, in specific company cultures. (Maybe if your company is selling essential oils? :D).
– Lichtbringer
yesterday
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Hi bracco23,
please see my answer in the attachment.
Greetings, Chris
There is no reason to bloat your email with unnecessary text. These
people will handle a huge bunch of those emails, you will disturb their
workflow if you keep adding noise.
Also your boss might not get offended by your random quotes, but he
might get offended because your browsing the internet for useless
stuff.
Keep it short and simple.
8
@Zabba Sorry, this time with attachment.
– Chris
yesterday
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Hi bracco23,
please see my answer in the attachment.
Greetings, Chris
There is no reason to bloat your email with unnecessary text. These
people will handle a huge bunch of those emails, you will disturb their
workflow if you keep adding noise.
Also your boss might not get offended by your random quotes, but he
might get offended because your browsing the internet for useless
stuff.
Keep it short and simple.
8
@Zabba Sorry, this time with attachment.
– Chris
yesterday
add a comment |
Hi bracco23,
please see my answer in the attachment.
Greetings, Chris
There is no reason to bloat your email with unnecessary text. These
people will handle a huge bunch of those emails, you will disturb their
workflow if you keep adding noise.
Also your boss might not get offended by your random quotes, but he
might get offended because your browsing the internet for useless
stuff.
Keep it short and simple.
Hi bracco23,
please see my answer in the attachment.
Greetings, Chris
There is no reason to bloat your email with unnecessary text. These
people will handle a huge bunch of those emails, you will disturb their
workflow if you keep adding noise.
Also your boss might not get offended by your random quotes, but he
might get offended because your browsing the internet for useless
stuff.
Keep it short and simple.
edited 13 hours ago
answered yesterday
ChrisChris
542310
542310
8
@Zabba Sorry, this time with attachment.
– Chris
yesterday
add a comment |
8
@Zabba Sorry, this time with attachment.
– Chris
yesterday
8
8
@Zabba Sorry, this time with attachment.
– Chris
yesterday
@Zabba Sorry, this time with attachment.
– Chris
yesterday
add a comment |
Is it professional to write unrelated content in an almost-emtpy email?
No. Why would you confuse the reader by adding something random?
Try to keep it short and simple.
add a comment |
Is it professional to write unrelated content in an almost-emtpy email?
No. Why would you confuse the reader by adding something random?
Try to keep it short and simple.
add a comment |
Is it professional to write unrelated content in an almost-emtpy email?
No. Why would you confuse the reader by adding something random?
Try to keep it short and simple.
Is it professional to write unrelated content in an almost-emtpy email?
No. Why would you confuse the reader by adding something random?
Try to keep it short and simple.
edited yesterday
answered yesterday
newguynewguy
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Informality and unrelated content in work messages are not professional. That does not make it unprofessional.
When this is acceptable and when it isn't is very nuanced, and depends on the office culture, the audience, how often you do it, how well it is received, your particular relationship with everyone who will see it, your reputation, your age, etc. Generally, if it in any way impedes business functioning the only professional response is to stop.
People who have these social skills are more popular, more influential, and can see concrete advantages in their careers.
The OP doesn't even know who he's sending these timesheets to. Unsollicited communication is spam, not related to any social skill..
– George M
yesterday
1
@GeorgeM Sending timesheets to the timesheet person isn't unsolicited communication. It's literally a part of that person's job to receive timesheets.
– David Richerby
yesterday
5
The timesheets are not unsolicited, but random quotes and personalized messages are.
– George M
yesterday
add a comment |
Informality and unrelated content in work messages are not professional. That does not make it unprofessional.
When this is acceptable and when it isn't is very nuanced, and depends on the office culture, the audience, how often you do it, how well it is received, your particular relationship with everyone who will see it, your reputation, your age, etc. Generally, if it in any way impedes business functioning the only professional response is to stop.
People who have these social skills are more popular, more influential, and can see concrete advantages in their careers.
The OP doesn't even know who he's sending these timesheets to. Unsollicited communication is spam, not related to any social skill..
– George M
yesterday
1
@GeorgeM Sending timesheets to the timesheet person isn't unsolicited communication. It's literally a part of that person's job to receive timesheets.
– David Richerby
yesterday
5
The timesheets are not unsolicited, but random quotes and personalized messages are.
– George M
yesterday
add a comment |
Informality and unrelated content in work messages are not professional. That does not make it unprofessional.
When this is acceptable and when it isn't is very nuanced, and depends on the office culture, the audience, how often you do it, how well it is received, your particular relationship with everyone who will see it, your reputation, your age, etc. Generally, if it in any way impedes business functioning the only professional response is to stop.
People who have these social skills are more popular, more influential, and can see concrete advantages in their careers.
Informality and unrelated content in work messages are not professional. That does not make it unprofessional.
When this is acceptable and when it isn't is very nuanced, and depends on the office culture, the audience, how often you do it, how well it is received, your particular relationship with everyone who will see it, your reputation, your age, etc. Generally, if it in any way impedes business functioning the only professional response is to stop.
People who have these social skills are more popular, more influential, and can see concrete advantages in their careers.
answered yesterday
MackMMackM
89011328
89011328
The OP doesn't even know who he's sending these timesheets to. Unsollicited communication is spam, not related to any social skill..
– George M
yesterday
1
@GeorgeM Sending timesheets to the timesheet person isn't unsolicited communication. It's literally a part of that person's job to receive timesheets.
– David Richerby
yesterday
5
The timesheets are not unsolicited, but random quotes and personalized messages are.
– George M
yesterday
add a comment |
The OP doesn't even know who he's sending these timesheets to. Unsollicited communication is spam, not related to any social skill..
– George M
yesterday
1
@GeorgeM Sending timesheets to the timesheet person isn't unsolicited communication. It's literally a part of that person's job to receive timesheets.
– David Richerby
yesterday
5
The timesheets are not unsolicited, but random quotes and personalized messages are.
– George M
yesterday
The OP doesn't even know who he's sending these timesheets to. Unsollicited communication is spam, not related to any social skill..
– George M
yesterday
The OP doesn't even know who he's sending these timesheets to. Unsollicited communication is spam, not related to any social skill..
– George M
yesterday
1
1
@GeorgeM Sending timesheets to the timesheet person isn't unsolicited communication. It's literally a part of that person's job to receive timesheets.
– David Richerby
yesterday
@GeorgeM Sending timesheets to the timesheet person isn't unsolicited communication. It's literally a part of that person's job to receive timesheets.
– David Richerby
yesterday
5
5
The timesheets are not unsolicited, but random quotes and personalized messages are.
– George M
yesterday
The timesheets are not unsolicited, but random quotes and personalized messages are.
– George M
yesterday
add a comment |
There's no reason or need to "adorn" the email with superfluous text. There's also no reason to write the same thing in the email as is contained in the attached time sheet.
Attached is my time sheet for the period xx/xx/xxxx through
xx/xx/xxxx. Thank you.
add a comment |
There's no reason or need to "adorn" the email with superfluous text. There's also no reason to write the same thing in the email as is contained in the attached time sheet.
Attached is my time sheet for the period xx/xx/xxxx through
xx/xx/xxxx. Thank you.
add a comment |
There's no reason or need to "adorn" the email with superfluous text. There's also no reason to write the same thing in the email as is contained in the attached time sheet.
Attached is my time sheet for the period xx/xx/xxxx through
xx/xx/xxxx. Thank you.
There's no reason or need to "adorn" the email with superfluous text. There's also no reason to write the same thing in the email as is contained in the attached time sheet.
Attached is my time sheet for the period xx/xx/xxxx through
xx/xx/xxxx. Thank you.
answered yesterday
joeqwertyjoeqwerty
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The random quotes probably are of no benefit to the recipient, the people who choose accounting like staring at numbers all day, they don't need a surprise package from the real world, if they need a break they can go to the water cooler, stare out the window, make some paper airplanes, etc when they are ready for it.
Stating your name again in the email is probably not needed it's already in the from header and in the signature at the base, the date also is not needed.
The summary is also not needed, but it is not without merit. having a precis there (like say just the total hours) could help with resolving disputes in a timely manner eg if the attachment is hard to read or if there is a misunderstanding, and they notice that your number does not match the time-sheet you could find out and resolve it before pay-day.
If you are submitting the timesheet late, having the date could be useful to help you find the email at a later time should you need to. So having the date in the subject line on late submissions could be useful.
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The random quotes probably are of no benefit to the recipient, the people who choose accounting like staring at numbers all day, they don't need a surprise package from the real world, if they need a break they can go to the water cooler, stare out the window, make some paper airplanes, etc when they are ready for it.
Stating your name again in the email is probably not needed it's already in the from header and in the signature at the base, the date also is not needed.
The summary is also not needed, but it is not without merit. having a precis there (like say just the total hours) could help with resolving disputes in a timely manner eg if the attachment is hard to read or if there is a misunderstanding, and they notice that your number does not match the time-sheet you could find out and resolve it before pay-day.
If you are submitting the timesheet late, having the date could be useful to help you find the email at a later time should you need to. So having the date in the subject line on late submissions could be useful.
New contributor
add a comment |
The random quotes probably are of no benefit to the recipient, the people who choose accounting like staring at numbers all day, they don't need a surprise package from the real world, if they need a break they can go to the water cooler, stare out the window, make some paper airplanes, etc when they are ready for it.
Stating your name again in the email is probably not needed it's already in the from header and in the signature at the base, the date also is not needed.
The summary is also not needed, but it is not without merit. having a precis there (like say just the total hours) could help with resolving disputes in a timely manner eg if the attachment is hard to read or if there is a misunderstanding, and they notice that your number does not match the time-sheet you could find out and resolve it before pay-day.
If you are submitting the timesheet late, having the date could be useful to help you find the email at a later time should you need to. So having the date in the subject line on late submissions could be useful.
New contributor
The random quotes probably are of no benefit to the recipient, the people who choose accounting like staring at numbers all day, they don't need a surprise package from the real world, if they need a break they can go to the water cooler, stare out the window, make some paper airplanes, etc when they are ready for it.
Stating your name again in the email is probably not needed it's already in the from header and in the signature at the base, the date also is not needed.
The summary is also not needed, but it is not without merit. having a precis there (like say just the total hours) could help with resolving disputes in a timely manner eg if the attachment is hard to read or if there is a misunderstanding, and they notice that your number does not match the time-sheet you could find out and resolve it before pay-day.
If you are submitting the timesheet late, having the date could be useful to help you find the email at a later time should you need to. So having the date in the subject line on late submissions could be useful.
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New contributor
answered 18 hours ago
JasenJasen
1112
1112
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New contributor
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As many have said unrelated information is not needed. If you state the time period that is fine, because it can let them see at a glance which time period without having to open the attachment.
Putting the time period in the subject can be a big help help also. Not only can they find the appropriate email it can also help to avoid the situation where the email software tries to group all the email messages that have the simple subject such "timecard" into one conversation.
The worst situation is to only have fluff and no other useful information. You might be training them to always skip reading the short emails because they believe they always only have fluff.
Always include a signature block with all your expected contact information.
add a comment |
As many have said unrelated information is not needed. If you state the time period that is fine, because it can let them see at a glance which time period without having to open the attachment.
Putting the time period in the subject can be a big help help also. Not only can they find the appropriate email it can also help to avoid the situation where the email software tries to group all the email messages that have the simple subject such "timecard" into one conversation.
The worst situation is to only have fluff and no other useful information. You might be training them to always skip reading the short emails because they believe they always only have fluff.
Always include a signature block with all your expected contact information.
add a comment |
As many have said unrelated information is not needed. If you state the time period that is fine, because it can let them see at a glance which time period without having to open the attachment.
Putting the time period in the subject can be a big help help also. Not only can they find the appropriate email it can also help to avoid the situation where the email software tries to group all the email messages that have the simple subject such "timecard" into one conversation.
The worst situation is to only have fluff and no other useful information. You might be training them to always skip reading the short emails because they believe they always only have fluff.
Always include a signature block with all your expected contact information.
As many have said unrelated information is not needed. If you state the time period that is fine, because it can let them see at a glance which time period without having to open the attachment.
Putting the time period in the subject can be a big help help also. Not only can they find the appropriate email it can also help to avoid the situation where the email software tries to group all the email messages that have the simple subject such "timecard" into one conversation.
The worst situation is to only have fluff and no other useful information. You might be training them to always skip reading the short emails because they believe they always only have fluff.
Always include a signature block with all your expected contact information.
answered 17 hours ago
mhoran_psprepmhoran_psprep
45.9k673163
45.9k673163
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This really depends on your client company. I've seen different companys. In some of them (mostly young and related to creativity), people would do funny things, play jokes on each others (and also on their clients, but they never crosses a line), use "4-letter-words" in their day-to-day-language - things which on this site would not be seen as professional. In others, those things could be your death sentence (not literally).
So, I would suggest you to take a look on them. How do they speak? How do they write? How "funny" are they and how serious is work for them? Are they like the members of this Stack Exchange site? I think those questions may help you evaluating what to do.
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For what it"s worth, I would be delighted to read your e-mails (if they are really funny). It would make my day.
– Guest
11 hours ago
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This really depends on your client company. I've seen different companys. In some of them (mostly young and related to creativity), people would do funny things, play jokes on each others (and also on their clients, but they never crosses a line), use "4-letter-words" in their day-to-day-language - things which on this site would not be seen as professional. In others, those things could be your death sentence (not literally).
So, I would suggest you to take a look on them. How do they speak? How do they write? How "funny" are they and how serious is work for them? Are they like the members of this Stack Exchange site? I think those questions may help you evaluating what to do.
New contributor
For what it"s worth, I would be delighted to read your e-mails (if they are really funny). It would make my day.
– Guest
11 hours ago
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This really depends on your client company. I've seen different companys. In some of them (mostly young and related to creativity), people would do funny things, play jokes on each others (and also on their clients, but they never crosses a line), use "4-letter-words" in their day-to-day-language - things which on this site would not be seen as professional. In others, those things could be your death sentence (not literally).
So, I would suggest you to take a look on them. How do they speak? How do they write? How "funny" are they and how serious is work for them? Are they like the members of this Stack Exchange site? I think those questions may help you evaluating what to do.
New contributor
This really depends on your client company. I've seen different companys. In some of them (mostly young and related to creativity), people would do funny things, play jokes on each others (and also on their clients, but they never crosses a line), use "4-letter-words" in their day-to-day-language - things which on this site would not be seen as professional. In others, those things could be your death sentence (not literally).
So, I would suggest you to take a look on them. How do they speak? How do they write? How "funny" are they and how serious is work for them? Are they like the members of this Stack Exchange site? I think those questions may help you evaluating what to do.
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New contributor
answered 13 hours ago
GuestGuest
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111
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For what it"s worth, I would be delighted to read your e-mails (if they are really funny). It would make my day.
– Guest
11 hours ago
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For what it"s worth, I would be delighted to read your e-mails (if they are really funny). It would make my day.
– Guest
11 hours ago
For what it"s worth, I would be delighted to read your e-mails (if they are really funny). It would make my day.
– Guest
11 hours ago
For what it"s worth, I would be delighted to read your e-mails (if they are really funny). It would make my day.
– Guest
11 hours ago
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Greetings fellow robots, Here are your daily programming updates. Have a high throughput day and don't forget to change your batteries.
– AffableAmbler
yesterday
68
Not everyone enjoys reading trite quotes, I actually find them quite annoying. Keep that in mind: the recipient(s), whoever they are, may not appreciate the added content regardless of professionalism.
– Alexandre Aubrey
yesterday
22
A time sheet is a time sheet. The people who receive them have seen thousands of them already, and they know what they are and what to do with them. Don't even waste your time (and theirs) " kinda repeating the content of the object." Frankly, if you sent me the sort of nonsense you are asking about more than once, I would ring your boss and give him a right verbal ****ing, ending with something like "Doesn't this idiot working for you have a proper job to do?"
– alephzero
yesterday
13
You might be interested to know that some emails do not even need any body at all, whatsoever. Sometimes the subject says it all. Some people even end such email subject-lines with " eom" for end-of-message to make it obvious, so you don't even need to open it. "Leftover sandwiches in the break room - eom"
– Aaron
yesterday
14
I'm almost tempted to delete the body of this question (it's not needed, since the subject captures the question anyway) and replace it with a motivational quote about Adversity. :-)
– Kevin
yesterday