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Kafka multiple listeners



The Next CEO of Stack Overflowmacvlan and RST packetsAWS Reserved IP addressesWhat is best practice design for internal traffic between microservices?AWS Rouet 53 Private Hosted Zone route traffic to Ec2 hosted on Private Subnet?not sure how to properly handle listeners/groups + health check in load balancer on awsAWS ALB security group allow connection from only my serversApache Kafka configuration behind NAT/LBKube ingress and elbDoes Kafka replicate the same data across all brokers?Can connect to kafka, but cannot consume










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Initial apologies for the long post (this is also on superuser as i wasn't sure the best place for this https://superuser.com/questions/1404421/kafka-multiple-listeners so let me know if one needs closing)...



I have setup a Kafka cluster in AWS with the following listeners and advertised listeners:



KAFKA_ADVERTISED_LISTENERS: PLAINTEXT://ds-kafka-broker0.service.local:9092,INTERNAL://:9093,PRIVATE://ds-kafka-broker0.private.awscloud.co.uk:6000,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker0.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7000
KAFKA_LISTENERS: PLAINTEXT://:9092,INTERNAL://:9093,PRIVATE://:6000,EXTERNAL://:7000
KAFKA_LISTENER_SECURITY_PROTOCOL_MAP: PLAINTEXT:PLAINTEXT,INTERNAL:PLAINTEXT,PRIVATE:PLAINTEXT,EXTERNAL:PLAINTEXT
KAFKA_INTER_BROKER_LISTENER_NAME: INTERNAL


I am having to do this because we run a AWS/On-Prem hybrid environment over direct connect.



Within AWS:



We use VPCE's for connectivity to the Kafka cluster within accounts so the host for the PRIVATE listener is the same for every account and uses a local private R53 zone.



On-Prem:



The private zone does not work with on-prem because we cannot resolve the private.awscloud.co.uk zones that sit in every AWS account so i have to use another zone which in Kafka forces me to use another listener and port range. This is the EXTERNAL listener.



They are all currently using plaintext as i am still in the implementation stage but both will eventually use the same encryption but for my current connectivity testing purposes, this should work. As a running cluster with all the accessories (connect, ksql, schema, etc) all works fine from within the Kafka cluster AWS account.



The problem:



When i connect to the EXTERNAL ports using the following producer.config settings:



bootstrap.servers=EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker0.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7000,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker1.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7001,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker2.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7002
#security.protocol=EXTERNAL # commented out as this is not valid in console producer
compression.type=snappy
max.block.ms=5000
linger.ms=5
max.in.flight.requests.per.connection=1
retries=5
batch.size=1000
max.request.size=10000000
acks=1
buffer.memory=67108864


and use the following test console producer command line:



bin/kafka-console-producer --producer.config etc/producer.properties --topic test-create-remote --broker-list EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker0.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7000,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker1.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7001,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker2.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7002


the initial connection occurs on 7000 but then Kafka reports back to the client that it should be using the PRIVATE listener and the traffic reconnects onto the 6000 Private port range (confirmed with tcpdump).



This is fine when you are connecting in from within an AWS account as that is what this port range and listener is for but from a client perspective i don't seem to have any control of which listener to use. In this case the connection from on-prem fails because i cannot resolve the PRIVATE address and even if i could, i couldn't connect on the port anyway.



This also makes me wonder why i am getting the PRIVATE listener... Why not the INTERNAL or PLAINTEXT ones if i have no control?



Hope all this makes sense and any pointers appreciated.










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    Initial apologies for the long post (this is also on superuser as i wasn't sure the best place for this https://superuser.com/questions/1404421/kafka-multiple-listeners so let me know if one needs closing)...



    I have setup a Kafka cluster in AWS with the following listeners and advertised listeners:



    KAFKA_ADVERTISED_LISTENERS: PLAINTEXT://ds-kafka-broker0.service.local:9092,INTERNAL://:9093,PRIVATE://ds-kafka-broker0.private.awscloud.co.uk:6000,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker0.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7000
    KAFKA_LISTENERS: PLAINTEXT://:9092,INTERNAL://:9093,PRIVATE://:6000,EXTERNAL://:7000
    KAFKA_LISTENER_SECURITY_PROTOCOL_MAP: PLAINTEXT:PLAINTEXT,INTERNAL:PLAINTEXT,PRIVATE:PLAINTEXT,EXTERNAL:PLAINTEXT
    KAFKA_INTER_BROKER_LISTENER_NAME: INTERNAL


    I am having to do this because we run a AWS/On-Prem hybrid environment over direct connect.



    Within AWS:



    We use VPCE's for connectivity to the Kafka cluster within accounts so the host for the PRIVATE listener is the same for every account and uses a local private R53 zone.



    On-Prem:



    The private zone does not work with on-prem because we cannot resolve the private.awscloud.co.uk zones that sit in every AWS account so i have to use another zone which in Kafka forces me to use another listener and port range. This is the EXTERNAL listener.



    They are all currently using plaintext as i am still in the implementation stage but both will eventually use the same encryption but for my current connectivity testing purposes, this should work. As a running cluster with all the accessories (connect, ksql, schema, etc) all works fine from within the Kafka cluster AWS account.



    The problem:



    When i connect to the EXTERNAL ports using the following producer.config settings:



    bootstrap.servers=EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker0.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7000,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker1.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7001,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker2.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7002
    #security.protocol=EXTERNAL # commented out as this is not valid in console producer
    compression.type=snappy
    max.block.ms=5000
    linger.ms=5
    max.in.flight.requests.per.connection=1
    retries=5
    batch.size=1000
    max.request.size=10000000
    acks=1
    buffer.memory=67108864


    and use the following test console producer command line:



    bin/kafka-console-producer --producer.config etc/producer.properties --topic test-create-remote --broker-list EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker0.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7000,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker1.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7001,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker2.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7002


    the initial connection occurs on 7000 but then Kafka reports back to the client that it should be using the PRIVATE listener and the traffic reconnects onto the 6000 Private port range (confirmed with tcpdump).



    This is fine when you are connecting in from within an AWS account as that is what this port range and listener is for but from a client perspective i don't seem to have any control of which listener to use. In this case the connection from on-prem fails because i cannot resolve the PRIVATE address and even if i could, i couldn't connect on the port anyway.



    This also makes me wonder why i am getting the PRIVATE listener... Why not the INTERNAL or PLAINTEXT ones if i have no control?



    Hope all this makes sense and any pointers appreciated.










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      Initial apologies for the long post (this is also on superuser as i wasn't sure the best place for this https://superuser.com/questions/1404421/kafka-multiple-listeners so let me know if one needs closing)...



      I have setup a Kafka cluster in AWS with the following listeners and advertised listeners:



      KAFKA_ADVERTISED_LISTENERS: PLAINTEXT://ds-kafka-broker0.service.local:9092,INTERNAL://:9093,PRIVATE://ds-kafka-broker0.private.awscloud.co.uk:6000,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker0.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7000
      KAFKA_LISTENERS: PLAINTEXT://:9092,INTERNAL://:9093,PRIVATE://:6000,EXTERNAL://:7000
      KAFKA_LISTENER_SECURITY_PROTOCOL_MAP: PLAINTEXT:PLAINTEXT,INTERNAL:PLAINTEXT,PRIVATE:PLAINTEXT,EXTERNAL:PLAINTEXT
      KAFKA_INTER_BROKER_LISTENER_NAME: INTERNAL


      I am having to do this because we run a AWS/On-Prem hybrid environment over direct connect.



      Within AWS:



      We use VPCE's for connectivity to the Kafka cluster within accounts so the host for the PRIVATE listener is the same for every account and uses a local private R53 zone.



      On-Prem:



      The private zone does not work with on-prem because we cannot resolve the private.awscloud.co.uk zones that sit in every AWS account so i have to use another zone which in Kafka forces me to use another listener and port range. This is the EXTERNAL listener.



      They are all currently using plaintext as i am still in the implementation stage but both will eventually use the same encryption but for my current connectivity testing purposes, this should work. As a running cluster with all the accessories (connect, ksql, schema, etc) all works fine from within the Kafka cluster AWS account.



      The problem:



      When i connect to the EXTERNAL ports using the following producer.config settings:



      bootstrap.servers=EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker0.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7000,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker1.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7001,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker2.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7002
      #security.protocol=EXTERNAL # commented out as this is not valid in console producer
      compression.type=snappy
      max.block.ms=5000
      linger.ms=5
      max.in.flight.requests.per.connection=1
      retries=5
      batch.size=1000
      max.request.size=10000000
      acks=1
      buffer.memory=67108864


      and use the following test console producer command line:



      bin/kafka-console-producer --producer.config etc/producer.properties --topic test-create-remote --broker-list EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker0.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7000,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker1.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7001,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker2.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7002


      the initial connection occurs on 7000 but then Kafka reports back to the client that it should be using the PRIVATE listener and the traffic reconnects onto the 6000 Private port range (confirmed with tcpdump).



      This is fine when you are connecting in from within an AWS account as that is what this port range and listener is for but from a client perspective i don't seem to have any control of which listener to use. In this case the connection from on-prem fails because i cannot resolve the PRIVATE address and even if i could, i couldn't connect on the port anyway.



      This also makes me wonder why i am getting the PRIVATE listener... Why not the INTERNAL or PLAINTEXT ones if i have no control?



      Hope all this makes sense and any pointers appreciated.










      share|improve this question














      Initial apologies for the long post (this is also on superuser as i wasn't sure the best place for this https://superuser.com/questions/1404421/kafka-multiple-listeners so let me know if one needs closing)...



      I have setup a Kafka cluster in AWS with the following listeners and advertised listeners:



      KAFKA_ADVERTISED_LISTENERS: PLAINTEXT://ds-kafka-broker0.service.local:9092,INTERNAL://:9093,PRIVATE://ds-kafka-broker0.private.awscloud.co.uk:6000,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker0.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7000
      KAFKA_LISTENERS: PLAINTEXT://:9092,INTERNAL://:9093,PRIVATE://:6000,EXTERNAL://:7000
      KAFKA_LISTENER_SECURITY_PROTOCOL_MAP: PLAINTEXT:PLAINTEXT,INTERNAL:PLAINTEXT,PRIVATE:PLAINTEXT,EXTERNAL:PLAINTEXT
      KAFKA_INTER_BROKER_LISTENER_NAME: INTERNAL


      I am having to do this because we run a AWS/On-Prem hybrid environment over direct connect.



      Within AWS:



      We use VPCE's for connectivity to the Kafka cluster within accounts so the host for the PRIVATE listener is the same for every account and uses a local private R53 zone.



      On-Prem:



      The private zone does not work with on-prem because we cannot resolve the private.awscloud.co.uk zones that sit in every AWS account so i have to use another zone which in Kafka forces me to use another listener and port range. This is the EXTERNAL listener.



      They are all currently using plaintext as i am still in the implementation stage but both will eventually use the same encryption but for my current connectivity testing purposes, this should work. As a running cluster with all the accessories (connect, ksql, schema, etc) all works fine from within the Kafka cluster AWS account.



      The problem:



      When i connect to the EXTERNAL ports using the following producer.config settings:



      bootstrap.servers=EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker0.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7000,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker1.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7001,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker2.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7002
      #security.protocol=EXTERNAL # commented out as this is not valid in console producer
      compression.type=snappy
      max.block.ms=5000
      linger.ms=5
      max.in.flight.requests.per.connection=1
      retries=5
      batch.size=1000
      max.request.size=10000000
      acks=1
      buffer.memory=67108864


      and use the following test console producer command line:



      bin/kafka-console-producer --producer.config etc/producer.properties --topic test-create-remote --broker-list EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker0.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7000,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker1.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7001,EXTERNAL://ds-kafka-broker2.dev.awscloud.co.uk:7002


      the initial connection occurs on 7000 but then Kafka reports back to the client that it should be using the PRIVATE listener and the traffic reconnects onto the 6000 Private port range (confirmed with tcpdump).



      This is fine when you are connecting in from within an AWS account as that is what this port range and listener is for but from a client perspective i don't seem to have any control of which listener to use. In this case the connection from on-prem fails because i cannot resolve the PRIVATE address and even if i could, i couldn't connect on the port anyway.



      This also makes me wonder why i am getting the PRIVATE listener... Why not the INTERNAL or PLAINTEXT ones if i have no control?



      Hope all this makes sense and any pointers appreciated.







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          Just thought i would post my solution for this. This was nothing to do with the Kafka configuration!



          This was running on AWS ECS(EC2, not Fargate) and as there is currently a limitation of 1 target group per task so 1 target group was used in the background for both listeners (6000 & 7000). This target group was the 6000 port so it was translating 7000 to 6000, hence me always getting back the same listener.



          This blog post (https://rmoff.net/2018/08/02/kafka-listeners-explained/) was quite helpful but didn't go far enough to cover my problem but there was 1 key quote within it that helped:




          When connecting to a broker, the listener that will be returned to the
          client will be the listener to which you connected (based on the
          port).




          Then when i was talking the problem through with someone and i was talking about the single load balancer when i had a light bulb moment... Now on port dedicated target groups and all is well.






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            Just thought i would post my solution for this. This was nothing to do with the Kafka configuration!



            This was running on AWS ECS(EC2, not Fargate) and as there is currently a limitation of 1 target group per task so 1 target group was used in the background for both listeners (6000 & 7000). This target group was the 6000 port so it was translating 7000 to 6000, hence me always getting back the same listener.



            This blog post (https://rmoff.net/2018/08/02/kafka-listeners-explained/) was quite helpful but didn't go far enough to cover my problem but there was 1 key quote within it that helped:




            When connecting to a broker, the listener that will be returned to the
            client will be the listener to which you connected (based on the
            port).




            Then when i was talking the problem through with someone and i was talking about the single load balancer when i had a light bulb moment... Now on port dedicated target groups and all is well.






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              Just thought i would post my solution for this. This was nothing to do with the Kafka configuration!



              This was running on AWS ECS(EC2, not Fargate) and as there is currently a limitation of 1 target group per task so 1 target group was used in the background for both listeners (6000 & 7000). This target group was the 6000 port so it was translating 7000 to 6000, hence me always getting back the same listener.



              This blog post (https://rmoff.net/2018/08/02/kafka-listeners-explained/) was quite helpful but didn't go far enough to cover my problem but there was 1 key quote within it that helped:




              When connecting to a broker, the listener that will be returned to the
              client will be the listener to which you connected (based on the
              port).




              Then when i was talking the problem through with someone and i was talking about the single load balancer when i had a light bulb moment... Now on port dedicated target groups and all is well.






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                Just thought i would post my solution for this. This was nothing to do with the Kafka configuration!



                This was running on AWS ECS(EC2, not Fargate) and as there is currently a limitation of 1 target group per task so 1 target group was used in the background for both listeners (6000 & 7000). This target group was the 6000 port so it was translating 7000 to 6000, hence me always getting back the same listener.



                This blog post (https://rmoff.net/2018/08/02/kafka-listeners-explained/) was quite helpful but didn't go far enough to cover my problem but there was 1 key quote within it that helped:




                When connecting to a broker, the listener that will be returned to the
                client will be the listener to which you connected (based on the
                port).




                Then when i was talking the problem through with someone and i was talking about the single load balancer when i had a light bulb moment... Now on port dedicated target groups and all is well.






                share|improve this answer













                Just thought i would post my solution for this. This was nothing to do with the Kafka configuration!



                This was running on AWS ECS(EC2, not Fargate) and as there is currently a limitation of 1 target group per task so 1 target group was used in the background for both listeners (6000 & 7000). This target group was the 6000 port so it was translating 7000 to 6000, hence me always getting back the same listener.



                This blog post (https://rmoff.net/2018/08/02/kafka-listeners-explained/) was quite helpful but didn't go far enough to cover my problem but there was 1 key quote within it that helped:




                When connecting to a broker, the listener that will be returned to the
                client will be the listener to which you connected (based on the
                port).




                Then when i was talking the problem through with someone and i was talking about the single load balancer when i had a light bulb moment... Now on port dedicated target groups and all is well.







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