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Is a copyright notice with a non-existent name invalid?
At what point and how should I change the license/Copyright notice when I create a derivative?What are the legal implications of providing software only with a copyright notice?Who owns the copyright when video recording lectures at a conference (with permission)?How to express copyright when you use a pen nameHow does contributing to a FLOSS project work from a legal perspective?Software content library license requires “including a valid copyright notice”. How does it limit my use?Legality of using Business name for copyright notice on website?Is it necessary to audibly announce a copyright notice when using music licensed under Creative Commons Attribution?Same game company name, but in a different countryCopyright laws regarding using the suffix of an established Brand name
If a person changes their name, do any copyrights registered to them still apply?
Or at least, as this is the subject in mind, does any software licensed to them still hold the same copyright?
copyright open-source-software
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If a person changes their name, do any copyrights registered to them still apply?
Or at least, as this is the subject in mind, does any software licensed to them still hold the same copyright?
copyright open-source-software
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If a person changes their name, do any copyrights registered to them still apply?
Or at least, as this is the subject in mind, does any software licensed to them still hold the same copyright?
copyright open-source-software
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If a person changes their name, do any copyrights registered to them still apply?
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Since the effective date of the US 1976 Copyright act, a copyright notice is not required at all on works published in the US, nor is it required on works published in any other country that adheres to the Berne Convention (which is adhered to by almsot every country in the world at this time). A copyright notice, if present, may specify a pseudonym, a business name, or a form of the author's name other than his or her legal name. The validity of the copyright does not depend on the name in the notice. This is true in all Berne Convention countries.
Even under the 1909 US copyright law, when a notice was required for protection, the exact form of the name used was not important, and pseudonyms and variant forms were permitted, as well as DBA names, which might not be easy to associate with the actual copyright holder. Nor do I know of any other country in which an error in the name in the notice would invalidate the copyright.
Aside from people changing names, a copyright can be sold or otherwise transferred. This does not require changing the copyright notice to reflect the changed ownership of the copyright, although it is often done with new versions or printings. The name on a copyright notice is at best suggestive or helpful; it does not define the owner.
answered Apr 21 at 19:47
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@David Richerby, An answer that acknowledges that it only covers the US and "any other country that adheres to the Berne Convention (which is adhered to by almsot every country in the world at this time)" specifies to which jurisdiction it applies, and by extension, acknowledges that other jurisdictions exist (i.e. the few countries that don't adhere to the Berne Convention).
– ikegami
Apr 22 at 11:15
@David Richerby While many aspects of copyright, such as Fair Use/fair dealing, are jurisdiction specific (and i am always careful to point out that Fair Use is a strictly US concept) This answer is about as close to worldwide as any answer here on law.se can be. There are, I believe, fewer than 10 countries that do not adhere to Bene, and none of those are significant in publishing.
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 14:41
Sorry for the obnoxious comment: I somehow missed your mention of Berne. Thanks for clarifying that the laws you mention are US laws, though.
– David Richerby
Apr 22 at 15:55
The copyright notice can be used to prevent a defendant from claiming innocent infringement to avoid statutory damages. Do they have any defense if they tried to contact the copyright owner, but were unsuccessful because of the name change?
– Barmar
Apr 22 at 17:09
@Barmar Once the would-be reuser sees any copyright notice, s/he knows the work is protected, and cannot claim innocent infringement. Even if the name in the notice is correct, there is no duty on the holder to respond to a request for permission. No answer means "no" and so does "I can't find an address for the holder". That would not be a defense. Not in the US, and I doubt anywhere. ("Innocent infringement" is a US-specific legal concept. There may or may not be similar concepts elsewhere.)
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 17:15
add a comment |
Copyright is held by (natural or legal) persons, not by names. A person continues to own their property when they change their name, including intellectual property such as copyrights. This is a bit jurisdiction-dependent, but even anonymous works are copyright-protected!
The names in a copyright notice are best understood as a reminder that someone holds copyright in the work. For open source software, copyright notices are rarely complete (often just list the project initiator, not all contributors). Names also do not uniquely identify a person, especially if the names are pseudonyms. Together, these problems prevent you from identifying the copyright holders from a copyright notice. If you need to identify the copyright holders, you should also look for other identifying information such as email addresses.
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Since the effective date of the US 1976 Copyright act, a copyright notice is not required at all on works published in the US, nor is it required on works published in any other country that adheres to the Berne Convention (which is adhered to by almsot every country in the world at this time). A copyright notice, if present, may specify a pseudonym, a business name, or a form of the author's name other than his or her legal name. The validity of the copyright does not depend on the name in the notice. This is true in all Berne Convention countries.
Even under the 1909 US copyright law, when a notice was required for protection, the exact form of the name used was not important, and pseudonyms and variant forms were permitted, as well as DBA names, which might not be easy to associate with the actual copyright holder. Nor do I know of any other country in which an error in the name in the notice would invalidate the copyright.
Aside from people changing names, a copyright can be sold or otherwise transferred. This does not require changing the copyright notice to reflect the changed ownership of the copyright, although it is often done with new versions or printings. The name on a copyright notice is at best suggestive or helpful; it does not define the owner.
answered Apr 21 at 19:47
David SiegelDavid Siegel
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@David Richerby, An answer that acknowledges that it only covers the US and "any other country that adheres to the Berne Convention (which is adhered to by almsot every country in the world at this time)" specifies to which jurisdiction it applies, and by extension, acknowledges that other jurisdictions exist (i.e. the few countries that don't adhere to the Berne Convention).
– ikegami
Apr 22 at 11:15
@David Richerby While many aspects of copyright, such as Fair Use/fair dealing, are jurisdiction specific (and i am always careful to point out that Fair Use is a strictly US concept) This answer is about as close to worldwide as any answer here on law.se can be. There are, I believe, fewer than 10 countries that do not adhere to Bene, and none of those are significant in publishing.
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 14:41
Sorry for the obnoxious comment: I somehow missed your mention of Berne. Thanks for clarifying that the laws you mention are US laws, though.
– David Richerby
Apr 22 at 15:55
The copyright notice can be used to prevent a defendant from claiming innocent infringement to avoid statutory damages. Do they have any defense if they tried to contact the copyright owner, but were unsuccessful because of the name change?
– Barmar
Apr 22 at 17:09
@Barmar Once the would-be reuser sees any copyright notice, s/he knows the work is protected, and cannot claim innocent infringement. Even if the name in the notice is correct, there is no duty on the holder to respond to a request for permission. No answer means "no" and so does "I can't find an address for the holder". That would not be a defense. Not in the US, and I doubt anywhere. ("Innocent infringement" is a US-specific legal concept. There may or may not be similar concepts elsewhere.)
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 17:15
add a comment |
Since the effective date of the US 1976 Copyright act, a copyright notice is not required at all on works published in the US, nor is it required on works published in any other country that adheres to the Berne Convention (which is adhered to by almsot every country in the world at this time). A copyright notice, if present, may specify a pseudonym, a business name, or a form of the author's name other than his or her legal name. The validity of the copyright does not depend on the name in the notice. This is true in all Berne Convention countries.
Even under the 1909 US copyright law, when a notice was required for protection, the exact form of the name used was not important, and pseudonyms and variant forms were permitted, as well as DBA names, which might not be easy to associate with the actual copyright holder. Nor do I know of any other country in which an error in the name in the notice would invalidate the copyright.
Aside from people changing names, a copyright can be sold or otherwise transferred. This does not require changing the copyright notice to reflect the changed ownership of the copyright, although it is often done with new versions or printings. The name on a copyright notice is at best suggestive or helpful; it does not define the owner.
answered Apr 21 at 19:47
David SiegelDavid Siegel
18.2k3769
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@David Richerby, An answer that acknowledges that it only covers the US and "any other country that adheres to the Berne Convention (which is adhered to by almsot every country in the world at this time)" specifies to which jurisdiction it applies, and by extension, acknowledges that other jurisdictions exist (i.e. the few countries that don't adhere to the Berne Convention).
– ikegami
Apr 22 at 11:15
@David Richerby While many aspects of copyright, such as Fair Use/fair dealing, are jurisdiction specific (and i am always careful to point out that Fair Use is a strictly US concept) This answer is about as close to worldwide as any answer here on law.se can be. There are, I believe, fewer than 10 countries that do not adhere to Bene, and none of those are significant in publishing.
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 14:41
Sorry for the obnoxious comment: I somehow missed your mention of Berne. Thanks for clarifying that the laws you mention are US laws, though.
– David Richerby
Apr 22 at 15:55
The copyright notice can be used to prevent a defendant from claiming innocent infringement to avoid statutory damages. Do they have any defense if they tried to contact the copyright owner, but were unsuccessful because of the name change?
– Barmar
Apr 22 at 17:09
@Barmar Once the would-be reuser sees any copyright notice, s/he knows the work is protected, and cannot claim innocent infringement. Even if the name in the notice is correct, there is no duty on the holder to respond to a request for permission. No answer means "no" and so does "I can't find an address for the holder". That would not be a defense. Not in the US, and I doubt anywhere. ("Innocent infringement" is a US-specific legal concept. There may or may not be similar concepts elsewhere.)
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 17:15
add a comment |
Since the effective date of the US 1976 Copyright act, a copyright notice is not required at all on works published in the US, nor is it required on works published in any other country that adheres to the Berne Convention (which is adhered to by almsot every country in the world at this time). A copyright notice, if present, may specify a pseudonym, a business name, or a form of the author's name other than his or her legal name. The validity of the copyright does not depend on the name in the notice. This is true in all Berne Convention countries.
Even under the 1909 US copyright law, when a notice was required for protection, the exact form of the name used was not important, and pseudonyms and variant forms were permitted, as well as DBA names, which might not be easy to associate with the actual copyright holder. Nor do I know of any other country in which an error in the name in the notice would invalidate the copyright.
Aside from people changing names, a copyright can be sold or otherwise transferred. This does not require changing the copyright notice to reflect the changed ownership of the copyright, although it is often done with new versions or printings. The name on a copyright notice is at best suggestive or helpful; it does not define the owner.
answered Apr 21 at 19:47
David SiegelDavid Siegel
18.2k3769
Since the effective date of the US 1976 Copyright act, a copyright notice is not required at all on works published in the US, nor is it required on works published in any other country that adheres to the Berne Convention (which is adhered to by almsot every country in the world at this time). A copyright notice, if present, may specify a pseudonym, a business name, or a form of the author's name other than his or her legal name. The validity of the copyright does not depend on the name in the notice. This is true in all Berne Convention countries.
Even under the 1909 US copyright law, when a notice was required for protection, the exact form of the name used was not important, and pseudonyms and variant forms were permitted, as well as DBA names, which might not be easy to associate with the actual copyright holder. Nor do I know of any other country in which an error in the name in the notice would invalidate the copyright.
Aside from people changing names, a copyright can be sold or otherwise transferred. This does not require changing the copyright notice to reflect the changed ownership of the copyright, although it is often done with new versions or printings. The name on a copyright notice is at best suggestive or helpful; it does not define the owner.
answered Apr 21 at 19:47
David SiegelDavid Siegel
18.2k3769
edited Apr 22 at 16:55
answered Apr 21 at 19:47
David SiegelDavid Siegel
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answered Apr 21 at 19:47
David SiegelDavid Siegel
18.2k3769
answered Apr 21 at 19:47
David SiegelDavid Siegel
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18.2k3769
2
@David Richerby, An answer that acknowledges that it only covers the US and "any other country that adheres to the Berne Convention (which is adhered to by almsot every country in the world at this time)" specifies to which jurisdiction it applies, and by extension, acknowledges that other jurisdictions exist (i.e. the few countries that don't adhere to the Berne Convention).
– ikegami
Apr 22 at 11:15
@David Richerby While many aspects of copyright, such as Fair Use/fair dealing, are jurisdiction specific (and i am always careful to point out that Fair Use is a strictly US concept) This answer is about as close to worldwide as any answer here on law.se can be. There are, I believe, fewer than 10 countries that do not adhere to Bene, and none of those are significant in publishing.
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 14:41
Sorry for the obnoxious comment: I somehow missed your mention of Berne. Thanks for clarifying that the laws you mention are US laws, though.
– David Richerby
Apr 22 at 15:55
The copyright notice can be used to prevent a defendant from claiming innocent infringement to avoid statutory damages. Do they have any defense if they tried to contact the copyright owner, but were unsuccessful because of the name change?
– Barmar
Apr 22 at 17:09
@Barmar Once the would-be reuser sees any copyright notice, s/he knows the work is protected, and cannot claim innocent infringement. Even if the name in the notice is correct, there is no duty on the holder to respond to a request for permission. No answer means "no" and so does "I can't find an address for the holder". That would not be a defense. Not in the US, and I doubt anywhere. ("Innocent infringement" is a US-specific legal concept. There may or may not be similar concepts elsewhere.)
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 17:15
add a comment |
2
@David Richerby, An answer that acknowledges that it only covers the US and "any other country that adheres to the Berne Convention (which is adhered to by almsot every country in the world at this time)" specifies to which jurisdiction it applies, and by extension, acknowledges that other jurisdictions exist (i.e. the few countries that don't adhere to the Berne Convention).
– ikegami
Apr 22 at 11:15
@David Richerby While many aspects of copyright, such as Fair Use/fair dealing, are jurisdiction specific (and i am always careful to point out that Fair Use is a strictly US concept) This answer is about as close to worldwide as any answer here on law.se can be. There are, I believe, fewer than 10 countries that do not adhere to Bene, and none of those are significant in publishing.
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 14:41
Sorry for the obnoxious comment: I somehow missed your mention of Berne. Thanks for clarifying that the laws you mention are US laws, though.
– David Richerby
Apr 22 at 15:55
The copyright notice can be used to prevent a defendant from claiming innocent infringement to avoid statutory damages. Do they have any defense if they tried to contact the copyright owner, but were unsuccessful because of the name change?
– Barmar
Apr 22 at 17:09
@Barmar Once the would-be reuser sees any copyright notice, s/he knows the work is protected, and cannot claim innocent infringement. Even if the name in the notice is correct, there is no duty on the holder to respond to a request for permission. No answer means "no" and so does "I can't find an address for the holder". That would not be a defense. Not in the US, and I doubt anywhere. ("Innocent infringement" is a US-specific legal concept. There may or may not be similar concepts elsewhere.)
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 17:15
2
2
@David Richerby, An answer that acknowledges that it only covers the US and "any other country that adheres to the Berne Convention (which is adhered to by almsot every country in the world at this time)" specifies to which jurisdiction it applies, and by extension, acknowledges that other jurisdictions exist (i.e. the few countries that don't adhere to the Berne Convention).
– ikegami
Apr 22 at 11:15
@David Richerby, An answer that acknowledges that it only covers the US and "any other country that adheres to the Berne Convention (which is adhered to by almsot every country in the world at this time)" specifies to which jurisdiction it applies, and by extension, acknowledges that other jurisdictions exist (i.e. the few countries that don't adhere to the Berne Convention).
– ikegami
Apr 22 at 11:15
@David Richerby While many aspects of copyright, such as Fair Use/fair dealing, are jurisdiction specific (and i am always careful to point out that Fair Use is a strictly US concept) This answer is about as close to worldwide as any answer here on law.se can be. There are, I believe, fewer than 10 countries that do not adhere to Bene, and none of those are significant in publishing.
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 14:41
@David Richerby While many aspects of copyright, such as Fair Use/fair dealing, are jurisdiction specific (and i am always careful to point out that Fair Use is a strictly US concept) This answer is about as close to worldwide as any answer here on law.se can be. There are, I believe, fewer than 10 countries that do not adhere to Bene, and none of those are significant in publishing.
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 14:41
Sorry for the obnoxious comment: I somehow missed your mention of Berne. Thanks for clarifying that the laws you mention are US laws, though.
– David Richerby
Apr 22 at 15:55
Sorry for the obnoxious comment: I somehow missed your mention of Berne. Thanks for clarifying that the laws you mention are US laws, though.
– David Richerby
Apr 22 at 15:55
The copyright notice can be used to prevent a defendant from claiming innocent infringement to avoid statutory damages. Do they have any defense if they tried to contact the copyright owner, but were unsuccessful because of the name change?
– Barmar
Apr 22 at 17:09
The copyright notice can be used to prevent a defendant from claiming innocent infringement to avoid statutory damages. Do they have any defense if they tried to contact the copyright owner, but were unsuccessful because of the name change?
– Barmar
Apr 22 at 17:09
@Barmar Once the would-be reuser sees any copyright notice, s/he knows the work is protected, and cannot claim innocent infringement. Even if the name in the notice is correct, there is no duty on the holder to respond to a request for permission. No answer means "no" and so does "I can't find an address for the holder". That would not be a defense. Not in the US, and I doubt anywhere. ("Innocent infringement" is a US-specific legal concept. There may or may not be similar concepts elsewhere.)
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 17:15
@Barmar Once the would-be reuser sees any copyright notice, s/he knows the work is protected, and cannot claim innocent infringement. Even if the name in the notice is correct, there is no duty on the holder to respond to a request for permission. No answer means "no" and so does "I can't find an address for the holder". That would not be a defense. Not in the US, and I doubt anywhere. ("Innocent infringement" is a US-specific legal concept. There may or may not be similar concepts elsewhere.)
– David Siegel
Apr 22 at 17:15
add a comment |
Copyright is held by (natural or legal) persons, not by names. A person continues to own their property when they change their name, including intellectual property such as copyrights. This is a bit jurisdiction-dependent, but even anonymous works are copyright-protected!
The names in a copyright notice are best understood as a reminder that someone holds copyright in the work. For open source software, copyright notices are rarely complete (often just list the project initiator, not all contributors). Names also do not uniquely identify a person, especially if the names are pseudonyms. Together, these problems prevent you from identifying the copyright holders from a copyright notice. If you need to identify the copyright holders, you should also look for other identifying information such as email addresses.
answered Apr 21 at 18:51
amonamon
1,12327
add a comment |
Copyright is held by (natural or legal) persons, not by names. A person continues to own their property when they change their name, including intellectual property such as copyrights. This is a bit jurisdiction-dependent, but even anonymous works are copyright-protected!
The names in a copyright notice are best understood as a reminder that someone holds copyright in the work. For open source software, copyright notices are rarely complete (often just list the project initiator, not all contributors). Names also do not uniquely identify a person, especially if the names are pseudonyms. Together, these problems prevent you from identifying the copyright holders from a copyright notice. If you need to identify the copyright holders, you should also look for other identifying information such as email addresses.
answered Apr 21 at 18:51
amonamon
1,12327
add a comment |
Copyright is held by (natural or legal) persons, not by names. A person continues to own their property when they change their name, including intellectual property such as copyrights. This is a bit jurisdiction-dependent, but even anonymous works are copyright-protected!
The names in a copyright notice are best understood as a reminder that someone holds copyright in the work. For open source software, copyright notices are rarely complete (often just list the project initiator, not all contributors). Names also do not uniquely identify a person, especially if the names are pseudonyms. Together, these problems prevent you from identifying the copyright holders from a copyright notice. If you need to identify the copyright holders, you should also look for other identifying information such as email addresses.
answered Apr 21 at 18:51
amonamon
1,12327
Copyright is held by (natural or legal) persons, not by names. A person continues to own their property when they change their name, including intellectual property such as copyrights. This is a bit jurisdiction-dependent, but even anonymous works are copyright-protected!
The names in a copyright notice are best understood as a reminder that someone holds copyright in the work. For open source software, copyright notices are rarely complete (often just list the project initiator, not all contributors). Names also do not uniquely identify a person, especially if the names are pseudonyms. Together, these problems prevent you from identifying the copyright holders from a copyright notice. If you need to identify the copyright holders, you should also look for other identifying information such as email addresses.
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amonamon
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– Jonas Stein
Apr 22 at 17:23