Not within Jobscope - Aggravated injury [closed]Can my boss make me do manual labor if my job description is as the Office Manager?'Not my fault' colleagueRequired but not mandatoryHow can I sell myself within the officeReducing information silos and improving communication within teamHow to take vacation days within first year without looking like a slackerPolitely telling clients I've moved to a different department within the companyHow to better track identities within company?Not being able to understand someoneTalking to colleague with short skirt - how do I not come off as a creep?Should I entertain prospective employer who does not even want to interview me directly?
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Not within Jobscope - Aggravated injury [closed]
Can my boss make me do manual labor if my job description is as the Office Manager?'Not my fault' colleagueRequired but not mandatoryHow can I sell myself within the officeReducing information silos and improving communication within teamHow to take vacation days within first year without looking like a slackerPolitely telling clients I've moved to a different department within the companyHow to better track identities within company?Not being able to understand someoneTalking to colleague with short skirt - how do I not come off as a creep?Should I entertain prospective employer who does not even want to interview me directly?
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Bio
- Working as a data science consultant
- Sustained a back injury during my military service (with medical documentation)
Background
I have been asked to work until 1-2am for a week performing physical labor, lifting of boxes to support a client project despite having sounded out my medical condition. Due to a lack of manpower, we juniors (I'm one of them) had to abandon our daily tasks to support this effort.
During that week, I took a day off with a medical certificate due to my aggravated back condition. Upon returning back to work, I was sent back to the client place with the same exact physical tasks as the project is still ongoing.
During my less than half a year of working in this company, this is my first non-job scope related task.
Solution
How should I handle future occurrences of such events?
communication singapore
edited yesterday
sleske
10.1k33855
asked Apr 23 at 9:42
JavierJavier
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closed as off-topic by gnat, mcknz, Fattie, Dukeling, mxyzplk Apr 23 at 23:10
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – mcknz, Dukeling, mxyzplk
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Bio
- Working as a data science consultant
- Sustained a back injury during my military service (with medical documentation)
Background
I have been asked to work until 1-2am for a week performing physical labor, lifting of boxes to support a client project despite having sounded out my medical condition. Due to a lack of manpower, we juniors (I'm one of them) had to abandon our daily tasks to support this effort.
During that week, I took a day off with a medical certificate due to my aggravated back condition. Upon returning back to work, I was sent back to the client place with the same exact physical tasks as the project is still ongoing.
During my less than half a year of working in this company, this is my first non-job scope related task.
Solution
How should I handle future occurrences of such events?
communication singapore
edited yesterday
sleske
10.1k33855
asked Apr 23 at 9:42
JavierJavier
24437
closed as off-topic by gnat, mcknz, Fattie, Dukeling, mxyzplk Apr 23 at 23:10
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – mcknz, Dukeling, mxyzplk
4
Oops it means 'Medical Certificate'
– Javier
Apr 23 at 14:16
23
Why would a company take what are presumably well-paid staff (even "junior" data scientists are rare enough) and have them waste their time doing monkey-work? Particularly a consultant?
– user1666620
Apr 23 at 14:51
13
Assuming your fellow juniors are also well-paid specialists, I'm tempted to suggest you all club together, subcontract a team of professional fitters through your local equivalent of checkatrade.com for a fraction of what you're all being paid for the week, and spend the time and the difference on a beach holiday while the fitters do the physical work better and faster than you could...
– user568458
Apr 23 at 15:50
11
"monkey-work"? Unnecessary. Don't shame honest work.
– Matt Malone
Apr 23 at 21:05
5
@user1666620 because the job needed doing, and it needed doing now. I have carried boxes of equipment from one place to another before, because they needed moving. It's cheaper getting a few existing employees to do it, even senior ones, than to go through the process of hiring temporary people just to move a few boxes.
– Simon B
Apr 23 at 22:15
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show 6 more comments
Bio
- Working as a data science consultant
- Sustained a back injury during my military service (with medical documentation)
Background
I have been asked to work until 1-2am for a week performing physical labor, lifting of boxes to support a client project despite having sounded out my medical condition. Due to a lack of manpower, we juniors (I'm one of them) had to abandon our daily tasks to support this effort.
During that week, I took a day off with a medical certificate due to my aggravated back condition. Upon returning back to work, I was sent back to the client place with the same exact physical tasks as the project is still ongoing.
During my less than half a year of working in this company, this is my first non-job scope related task.
Solution
How should I handle future occurrences of such events?
communication singapore
edited yesterday
sleske
10.1k33855
asked Apr 23 at 9:42
JavierJavier
24437
Bio
- Working as a data science consultant
- Sustained a back injury during my military service (with medical documentation)
Background
I have been asked to work until 1-2am for a week performing physical labor, lifting of boxes to support a client project despite having sounded out my medical condition. Due to a lack of manpower, we juniors (I'm one of them) had to abandon our daily tasks to support this effort.
During that week, I took a day off with a medical certificate due to my aggravated back condition. Upon returning back to work, I was sent back to the client place with the same exact physical tasks as the project is still ongoing.
During my less than half a year of working in this company, this is my first non-job scope related task.
Solution
How should I handle future occurrences of such events?
communication singapore
communication singapore
edited yesterday
sleske
10.1k33855
asked Apr 23 at 9:42
JavierJavier
24437
edited yesterday
sleske
10.1k33855
asked Apr 23 at 9:42
JavierJavier
24437
edited yesterday
sleske
10.1k33855
edited yesterday
sleske
10.1k33855
edited yesterday
sleske
10.1k33855
10.1k33855
asked Apr 23 at 9:42
JavierJavier
24437
asked Apr 23 at 9:42
JavierJavier
24437
asked Apr 23 at 9:42
JavierJavier
24437
24437
closed as off-topic by gnat, mcknz, Fattie, Dukeling, mxyzplk Apr 23 at 23:10
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – mcknz, Dukeling, mxyzplk
closed as off-topic by gnat, mcknz, Fattie, Dukeling, mxyzplk Apr 23 at 23:10
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – mcknz, Dukeling, mxyzplk
4
Oops it means 'Medical Certificate'
– Javier
Apr 23 at 14:16
23
Why would a company take what are presumably well-paid staff (even "junior" data scientists are rare enough) and have them waste their time doing monkey-work? Particularly a consultant?
– user1666620
Apr 23 at 14:51
13
Assuming your fellow juniors are also well-paid specialists, I'm tempted to suggest you all club together, subcontract a team of professional fitters through your local equivalent of checkatrade.com for a fraction of what you're all being paid for the week, and spend the time and the difference on a beach holiday while the fitters do the physical work better and faster than you could...
– user568458
Apr 23 at 15:50
11
"monkey-work"? Unnecessary. Don't shame honest work.
– Matt Malone
Apr 23 at 21:05
5
@user1666620 because the job needed doing, and it needed doing now. I have carried boxes of equipment from one place to another before, because they needed moving. It's cheaper getting a few existing employees to do it, even senior ones, than to go through the process of hiring temporary people just to move a few boxes.
– Simon B
Apr 23 at 22:15
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show 6 more comments
4
Oops it means 'Medical Certificate'
– Javier
Apr 23 at 14:16
23
Why would a company take what are presumably well-paid staff (even "junior" data scientists are rare enough) and have them waste their time doing monkey-work? Particularly a consultant?
– user1666620
Apr 23 at 14:51
13
Assuming your fellow juniors are also well-paid specialists, I'm tempted to suggest you all club together, subcontract a team of professional fitters through your local equivalent of checkatrade.com for a fraction of what you're all being paid for the week, and spend the time and the difference on a beach holiday while the fitters do the physical work better and faster than you could...
– user568458
Apr 23 at 15:50
11
"monkey-work"? Unnecessary. Don't shame honest work.
– Matt Malone
Apr 23 at 21:05
5
@user1666620 because the job needed doing, and it needed doing now. I have carried boxes of equipment from one place to another before, because they needed moving. It's cheaper getting a few existing employees to do it, even senior ones, than to go through the process of hiring temporary people just to move a few boxes.
– Simon B
Apr 23 at 22:15
4
4
Oops it means 'Medical Certificate'
– Javier
Apr 23 at 14:16
Oops it means 'Medical Certificate'
– Javier
Apr 23 at 14:16
23
23
Why would a company take what are presumably well-paid staff (even "junior" data scientists are rare enough) and have them waste their time doing monkey-work? Particularly a consultant?
– user1666620
Apr 23 at 14:51
Why would a company take what are presumably well-paid staff (even "junior" data scientists are rare enough) and have them waste their time doing monkey-work? Particularly a consultant?
– user1666620
Apr 23 at 14:51
13
13
Assuming your fellow juniors are also well-paid specialists, I'm tempted to suggest you all club together, subcontract a team of professional fitters through your local equivalent of checkatrade.com for a fraction of what you're all being paid for the week, and spend the time and the difference on a beach holiday while the fitters do the physical work better and faster than you could...
– user568458
Apr 23 at 15:50
Assuming your fellow juniors are also well-paid specialists, I'm tempted to suggest you all club together, subcontract a team of professional fitters through your local equivalent of checkatrade.com for a fraction of what you're all being paid for the week, and spend the time and the difference on a beach holiday while the fitters do the physical work better and faster than you could...
– user568458
Apr 23 at 15:50
11
11
"monkey-work"? Unnecessary. Don't shame honest work.
– Matt Malone
Apr 23 at 21:05
"monkey-work"? Unnecessary. Don't shame honest work.
– Matt Malone
Apr 23 at 21:05
5
5
@user1666620 because the job needed doing, and it needed doing now. I have carried boxes of equipment from one place to another before, because they needed moving. It's cheaper getting a few existing employees to do it, even senior ones, than to go through the process of hiring temporary people just to move a few boxes.
– Simon B
Apr 23 at 22:15
@user1666620 because the job needed doing, and it needed doing now. I have carried boxes of equipment from one place to another before, because they needed moving. It's cheaper getting a few existing employees to do it, even senior ones, than to go through the process of hiring temporary people just to move a few boxes.
– Simon B
Apr 23 at 22:15
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Tell them how it is. You provided your medical documents up front, they should not be making you do such tasks.
Tell them that you are not going to do the tasks to avoid chronic injury. You have the official documents to support this.
If they say otherwise then talk to HR. They're not going to risk such a thing due to a lack of manpower.
answered Apr 23 at 9:46
TwyxzTwyxz
15.3k114787
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the lack of manpower especially will get worse if you prevent a data scientist from working for weeks or months for a task which an untrained external person could have done for a small amount of money.
– Sascha
Apr 23 at 10:13
14
I would add that they are risking a lawsuit if further injury occurs, and certainly facing Workman's Comp claims.
– Keith
Apr 23 at 13:48
22
I'd say you don't even need a medical history for that sort of task to injure you permanently. "I'm a data scientist, I'm neither trained nor equiped to do heavy lifting" should be sufficient reason.
– AmiralPatate
Apr 23 at 14:08
12
@AmiralPatate The question doesn't state that the lifting is heavier than a regular person can do, and training to lift things that a regular person can lift only takes a few minutes. So, really, the medical certificate is crucial, here.
– David Richerby
Apr 23 at 17:03
2
@DavidRicherby To be fair, odds are the job has no strength or endurance requirements for lifting. An hour a day of physical labour could definitely be an issue for some workers, even without a specific medical condition. Although most people could likely do it, it seems pretty far outside of the scope you might expect for the role.
– JMac
Apr 23 at 18:07
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1 Answer
1
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
votes
Tell them how it is. You provided your medical documents up front, they should not be making you do such tasks.
Tell them that you are not going to do the tasks to avoid chronic injury. You have the official documents to support this.
If they say otherwise then talk to HR. They're not going to risk such a thing due to a lack of manpower.
answered Apr 23 at 9:46
TwyxzTwyxz
15.3k114787
47
the lack of manpower especially will get worse if you prevent a data scientist from working for weeks or months for a task which an untrained external person could have done for a small amount of money.
– Sascha
Apr 23 at 10:13
14
I would add that they are risking a lawsuit if further injury occurs, and certainly facing Workman's Comp claims.
– Keith
Apr 23 at 13:48
22
I'd say you don't even need a medical history for that sort of task to injure you permanently. "I'm a data scientist, I'm neither trained nor equiped to do heavy lifting" should be sufficient reason.
– AmiralPatate
Apr 23 at 14:08
12
@AmiralPatate The question doesn't state that the lifting is heavier than a regular person can do, and training to lift things that a regular person can lift only takes a few minutes. So, really, the medical certificate is crucial, here.
– David Richerby
Apr 23 at 17:03
2
@DavidRicherby To be fair, odds are the job has no strength or endurance requirements for lifting. An hour a day of physical labour could definitely be an issue for some workers, even without a specific medical condition. Although most people could likely do it, it seems pretty far outside of the scope you might expect for the role.
– JMac
Apr 23 at 18:07
|
show 4 more comments
Tell them how it is. You provided your medical documents up front, they should not be making you do such tasks.
Tell them that you are not going to do the tasks to avoid chronic injury. You have the official documents to support this.
If they say otherwise then talk to HR. They're not going to risk such a thing due to a lack of manpower.
answered Apr 23 at 9:46
TwyxzTwyxz
15.3k114787
47
the lack of manpower especially will get worse if you prevent a data scientist from working for weeks or months for a task which an untrained external person could have done for a small amount of money.
– Sascha
Apr 23 at 10:13
14
I would add that they are risking a lawsuit if further injury occurs, and certainly facing Workman's Comp claims.
– Keith
Apr 23 at 13:48
22
I'd say you don't even need a medical history for that sort of task to injure you permanently. "I'm a data scientist, I'm neither trained nor equiped to do heavy lifting" should be sufficient reason.
– AmiralPatate
Apr 23 at 14:08
12
@AmiralPatate The question doesn't state that the lifting is heavier than a regular person can do, and training to lift things that a regular person can lift only takes a few minutes. So, really, the medical certificate is crucial, here.
– David Richerby
Apr 23 at 17:03
2
@DavidRicherby To be fair, odds are the job has no strength or endurance requirements for lifting. An hour a day of physical labour could definitely be an issue for some workers, even without a specific medical condition. Although most people could likely do it, it seems pretty far outside of the scope you might expect for the role.
– JMac
Apr 23 at 18:07
|
show 4 more comments
Tell them how it is. You provided your medical documents up front, they should not be making you do such tasks.
Tell them that you are not going to do the tasks to avoid chronic injury. You have the official documents to support this.
If they say otherwise then talk to HR. They're not going to risk such a thing due to a lack of manpower.
answered Apr 23 at 9:46
TwyxzTwyxz
15.3k114787
Tell them how it is. You provided your medical documents up front, they should not be making you do such tasks.
Tell them that you are not going to do the tasks to avoid chronic injury. You have the official documents to support this.
If they say otherwise then talk to HR. They're not going to risk such a thing due to a lack of manpower.
answered Apr 23 at 9:46
TwyxzTwyxz
15.3k114787
answered Apr 23 at 9:46
TwyxzTwyxz
15.3k114787
answered Apr 23 at 9:46
TwyxzTwyxz
15.3k114787
answered Apr 23 at 9:46
TwyxzTwyxz
15.3k114787
15.3k114787
47
the lack of manpower especially will get worse if you prevent a data scientist from working for weeks or months for a task which an untrained external person could have done for a small amount of money.
– Sascha
Apr 23 at 10:13
14
I would add that they are risking a lawsuit if further injury occurs, and certainly facing Workman's Comp claims.
– Keith
Apr 23 at 13:48
22
I'd say you don't even need a medical history for that sort of task to injure you permanently. "I'm a data scientist, I'm neither trained nor equiped to do heavy lifting" should be sufficient reason.
– AmiralPatate
Apr 23 at 14:08
12
@AmiralPatate The question doesn't state that the lifting is heavier than a regular person can do, and training to lift things that a regular person can lift only takes a few minutes. So, really, the medical certificate is crucial, here.
– David Richerby
Apr 23 at 17:03
2
@DavidRicherby To be fair, odds are the job has no strength or endurance requirements for lifting. An hour a day of physical labour could definitely be an issue for some workers, even without a specific medical condition. Although most people could likely do it, it seems pretty far outside of the scope you might expect for the role.
– JMac
Apr 23 at 18:07
|
show 4 more comments
47
the lack of manpower especially will get worse if you prevent a data scientist from working for weeks or months for a task which an untrained external person could have done for a small amount of money.
– Sascha
Apr 23 at 10:13
14
I would add that they are risking a lawsuit if further injury occurs, and certainly facing Workman's Comp claims.
– Keith
Apr 23 at 13:48
22
I'd say you don't even need a medical history for that sort of task to injure you permanently. "I'm a data scientist, I'm neither trained nor equiped to do heavy lifting" should be sufficient reason.
– AmiralPatate
Apr 23 at 14:08
12
@AmiralPatate The question doesn't state that the lifting is heavier than a regular person can do, and training to lift things that a regular person can lift only takes a few minutes. So, really, the medical certificate is crucial, here.
– David Richerby
Apr 23 at 17:03
2
@DavidRicherby To be fair, odds are the job has no strength or endurance requirements for lifting. An hour a day of physical labour could definitely be an issue for some workers, even without a specific medical condition. Although most people could likely do it, it seems pretty far outside of the scope you might expect for the role.
– JMac
Apr 23 at 18:07
47
47
the lack of manpower especially will get worse if you prevent a data scientist from working for weeks or months for a task which an untrained external person could have done for a small amount of money.
– Sascha
Apr 23 at 10:13
the lack of manpower especially will get worse if you prevent a data scientist from working for weeks or months for a task which an untrained external person could have done for a small amount of money.
– Sascha
Apr 23 at 10:13
14
14
I would add that they are risking a lawsuit if further injury occurs, and certainly facing Workman's Comp claims.
– Keith
Apr 23 at 13:48
I would add that they are risking a lawsuit if further injury occurs, and certainly facing Workman's Comp claims.
– Keith
Apr 23 at 13:48
22
22
I'd say you don't even need a medical history for that sort of task to injure you permanently. "I'm a data scientist, I'm neither trained nor equiped to do heavy lifting" should be sufficient reason.
– AmiralPatate
Apr 23 at 14:08
I'd say you don't even need a medical history for that sort of task to injure you permanently. "I'm a data scientist, I'm neither trained nor equiped to do heavy lifting" should be sufficient reason.
– AmiralPatate
Apr 23 at 14:08
12
12
@AmiralPatate The question doesn't state that the lifting is heavier than a regular person can do, and training to lift things that a regular person can lift only takes a few minutes. So, really, the medical certificate is crucial, here.
– David Richerby
Apr 23 at 17:03
@AmiralPatate The question doesn't state that the lifting is heavier than a regular person can do, and training to lift things that a regular person can lift only takes a few minutes. So, really, the medical certificate is crucial, here.
– David Richerby
Apr 23 at 17:03
2
2
@DavidRicherby To be fair, odds are the job has no strength or endurance requirements for lifting. An hour a day of physical labour could definitely be an issue for some workers, even without a specific medical condition. Although most people could likely do it, it seems pretty far outside of the scope you might expect for the role.
– JMac
Apr 23 at 18:07
@DavidRicherby To be fair, odds are the job has no strength or endurance requirements for lifting. An hour a day of physical labour could definitely be an issue for some workers, even without a specific medical condition. Although most people could likely do it, it seems pretty far outside of the scope you might expect for the role.
– JMac
Apr 23 at 18:07
|
show 4 more comments
4
Oops it means 'Medical Certificate'
– Javier
Apr 23 at 14:16
23
Why would a company take what are presumably well-paid staff (even "junior" data scientists are rare enough) and have them waste their time doing monkey-work? Particularly a consultant?
– user1666620
Apr 23 at 14:51
13
Assuming your fellow juniors are also well-paid specialists, I'm tempted to suggest you all club together, subcontract a team of professional fitters through your local equivalent of checkatrade.com for a fraction of what you're all being paid for the week, and spend the time and the difference on a beach holiday while the fitters do the physical work better and faster than you could...
– user568458
Apr 23 at 15:50
11
"monkey-work"? Unnecessary. Don't shame honest work.
– Matt Malone
Apr 23 at 21:05
5
@user1666620 because the job needed doing, and it needed doing now. I have carried boxes of equipment from one place to another before, because they needed moving. It's cheaper getting a few existing employees to do it, even senior ones, than to go through the process of hiring temporary people just to move a few boxes.
– Simon B
Apr 23 at 22:15