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I just installed Ubuntu server and XFCE4, however the desktop is completely different than any other xfce I have installed, with a gnome-like launcher and both Ubuntu and Debian screen backgrounds, as well as no start menu or panel. But Thunar is there.



I understand that there were a lot of changes to Xubuntu 19.04, but nothing I read about said anything about this. So take a look at my screenshot of a fresh install of Ubuntu Server + xfce4 (and a few utilities).



Note the launcher, the presence of thunar, and the two wallpapers (they are on different GPUs)



Is this expected (nevermind the checkerboard pattern thing, sometimes my graphics card does that).



Additional notes: This happened on two installs back-to-back. Also, the mouse tracking and stuff are really slow, although that could be due to having five monitors spread across three video cards, but I don't remember this being an issue in the past)










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    There is definitely something amiss here. How exactly did you install xfce? IMO if you want Ubuntu with the xfce desktop, you should start with Xubuntu as your base. Ubuntu server is really intended to be headless or command line only -- If you want more of a minimalist approach to start with and add packages - it's better to use the MinimalCD

    – Nmath
    Jun 9 at 23:58











  • No, I want to use Ubuntu Server (this machine is a host for desktop virtualization with KVM), I just want a very minimal XFCE desktop environment for ease of administration. I have done this just fine in the past. I installed it by installing Ubuntu Server 19.04 via the classic installer and then running sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade and then sudo apt install xfce4 xfce4-screenshooter geany firefox gparted. Those were literally the only commands I ran on the system. Also I did a run with memtest recently and got no errors.

    – Stonecraft
    Jun 10 at 0:04






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    You didn't install the xubuntu desktop, instead xfce4 (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/xfce4) which does include desktop-base (common files for the Debian Desktop (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/desktop-base) which suggests gnome (Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components) so I'd check your logs and see what you actually installed; you may have accepted the suggest packages (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/gnome) pulling in gnome because of your provided command. If you did hit 'y' or -y to accept recommends, you should consider --no-install-recommends

    – guiverc
    Jun 10 at 0:59












  • I am sure that I have always installed xfce4, not desktop in the past and it was always fine. I did run with -y but I never manually turned those down in the past. Something changed.

    – Stonecraft
    Jun 10 at 1:06







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    You didn't use Xubuntu intended packages, you used upstream's xfce4 which pulled in desktop-base or "common files for the Debian Desktop" without the Xubuntu team's changes. Xubuntu branding is there in Xubuntu, and no Xubuntu doesn't use GNOME launcher. XFCE though is going thru big changes, XFCE 4.14 is in RC currently! (all GTK+3)

    – guiverc
    Jun 10 at 12:29


















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I just installed Ubuntu server and XFCE4, however the desktop is completely different than any other xfce I have installed, with a gnome-like launcher and both Ubuntu and Debian screen backgrounds, as well as no start menu or panel. But Thunar is there.



I understand that there were a lot of changes to Xubuntu 19.04, but nothing I read about said anything about this. So take a look at my screenshot of a fresh install of Ubuntu Server + xfce4 (and a few utilities).



Note the launcher, the presence of thunar, and the two wallpapers (they are on different GPUs)



Is this expected (nevermind the checkerboard pattern thing, sometimes my graphics card does that).



Additional notes: This happened on two installs back-to-back. Also, the mouse tracking and stuff are really slow, although that could be due to having five monitors spread across three video cards, but I don't remember this being an issue in the past)










share|improve this question



















  • 2





    There is definitely something amiss here. How exactly did you install xfce? IMO if you want Ubuntu with the xfce desktop, you should start with Xubuntu as your base. Ubuntu server is really intended to be headless or command line only -- If you want more of a minimalist approach to start with and add packages - it's better to use the MinimalCD

    – Nmath
    Jun 9 at 23:58











  • No, I want to use Ubuntu Server (this machine is a host for desktop virtualization with KVM), I just want a very minimal XFCE desktop environment for ease of administration. I have done this just fine in the past. I installed it by installing Ubuntu Server 19.04 via the classic installer and then running sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade and then sudo apt install xfce4 xfce4-screenshooter geany firefox gparted. Those were literally the only commands I ran on the system. Also I did a run with memtest recently and got no errors.

    – Stonecraft
    Jun 10 at 0:04






  • 2





    You didn't install the xubuntu desktop, instead xfce4 (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/xfce4) which does include desktop-base (common files for the Debian Desktop (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/desktop-base) which suggests gnome (Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components) so I'd check your logs and see what you actually installed; you may have accepted the suggest packages (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/gnome) pulling in gnome because of your provided command. If you did hit 'y' or -y to accept recommends, you should consider --no-install-recommends

    – guiverc
    Jun 10 at 0:59












  • I am sure that I have always installed xfce4, not desktop in the past and it was always fine. I did run with -y but I never manually turned those down in the past. Something changed.

    – Stonecraft
    Jun 10 at 1:06







  • 1





    You didn't use Xubuntu intended packages, you used upstream's xfce4 which pulled in desktop-base or "common files for the Debian Desktop" without the Xubuntu team's changes. Xubuntu branding is there in Xubuntu, and no Xubuntu doesn't use GNOME launcher. XFCE though is going thru big changes, XFCE 4.14 is in RC currently! (all GTK+3)

    – guiverc
    Jun 10 at 12:29














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I just installed Ubuntu server and XFCE4, however the desktop is completely different than any other xfce I have installed, with a gnome-like launcher and both Ubuntu and Debian screen backgrounds, as well as no start menu or panel. But Thunar is there.



I understand that there were a lot of changes to Xubuntu 19.04, but nothing I read about said anything about this. So take a look at my screenshot of a fresh install of Ubuntu Server + xfce4 (and a few utilities).



Note the launcher, the presence of thunar, and the two wallpapers (they are on different GPUs)



Is this expected (nevermind the checkerboard pattern thing, sometimes my graphics card does that).



Additional notes: This happened on two installs back-to-back. Also, the mouse tracking and stuff are really slow, although that could be due to having five monitors spread across three video cards, but I don't remember this being an issue in the past)










share|improve this question
















I just installed Ubuntu server and XFCE4, however the desktop is completely different than any other xfce I have installed, with a gnome-like launcher and both Ubuntu and Debian screen backgrounds, as well as no start menu or panel. But Thunar is there.



I understand that there were a lot of changes to Xubuntu 19.04, but nothing I read about said anything about this. So take a look at my screenshot of a fresh install of Ubuntu Server + xfce4 (and a few utilities).



Note the launcher, the presence of thunar, and the two wallpapers (they are on different GPUs)



Is this expected (nevermind the checkerboard pattern thing, sometimes my graphics card does that).



Additional notes: This happened on two installs back-to-back. Also, the mouse tracking and stuff are really slow, although that could be due to having five monitors spread across three video cards, but I don't remember this being an issue in the past)







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    There is definitely something amiss here. How exactly did you install xfce? IMO if you want Ubuntu with the xfce desktop, you should start with Xubuntu as your base. Ubuntu server is really intended to be headless or command line only -- If you want more of a minimalist approach to start with and add packages - it's better to use the MinimalCD

    – Nmath
    Jun 9 at 23:58











  • No, I want to use Ubuntu Server (this machine is a host for desktop virtualization with KVM), I just want a very minimal XFCE desktop environment for ease of administration. I have done this just fine in the past. I installed it by installing Ubuntu Server 19.04 via the classic installer and then running sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade and then sudo apt install xfce4 xfce4-screenshooter geany firefox gparted. Those were literally the only commands I ran on the system. Also I did a run with memtest recently and got no errors.

    – Stonecraft
    Jun 10 at 0:04






  • 2





    You didn't install the xubuntu desktop, instead xfce4 (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/xfce4) which does include desktop-base (common files for the Debian Desktop (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/desktop-base) which suggests gnome (Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components) so I'd check your logs and see what you actually installed; you may have accepted the suggest packages (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/gnome) pulling in gnome because of your provided command. If you did hit 'y' or -y to accept recommends, you should consider --no-install-recommends

    – guiverc
    Jun 10 at 0:59












  • I am sure that I have always installed xfce4, not desktop in the past and it was always fine. I did run with -y but I never manually turned those down in the past. Something changed.

    – Stonecraft
    Jun 10 at 1:06







  • 1





    You didn't use Xubuntu intended packages, you used upstream's xfce4 which pulled in desktop-base or "common files for the Debian Desktop" without the Xubuntu team's changes. Xubuntu branding is there in Xubuntu, and no Xubuntu doesn't use GNOME launcher. XFCE though is going thru big changes, XFCE 4.14 is in RC currently! (all GTK+3)

    – guiverc
    Jun 10 at 12:29













  • 2





    There is definitely something amiss here. How exactly did you install xfce? IMO if you want Ubuntu with the xfce desktop, you should start with Xubuntu as your base. Ubuntu server is really intended to be headless or command line only -- If you want more of a minimalist approach to start with and add packages - it's better to use the MinimalCD

    – Nmath
    Jun 9 at 23:58











  • No, I want to use Ubuntu Server (this machine is a host for desktop virtualization with KVM), I just want a very minimal XFCE desktop environment for ease of administration. I have done this just fine in the past. I installed it by installing Ubuntu Server 19.04 via the classic installer and then running sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade and then sudo apt install xfce4 xfce4-screenshooter geany firefox gparted. Those were literally the only commands I ran on the system. Also I did a run with memtest recently and got no errors.

    – Stonecraft
    Jun 10 at 0:04






  • 2





    You didn't install the xubuntu desktop, instead xfce4 (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/xfce4) which does include desktop-base (common files for the Debian Desktop (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/desktop-base) which suggests gnome (Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components) so I'd check your logs and see what you actually installed; you may have accepted the suggest packages (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/gnome) pulling in gnome because of your provided command. If you did hit 'y' or -y to accept recommends, you should consider --no-install-recommends

    – guiverc
    Jun 10 at 0:59












  • I am sure that I have always installed xfce4, not desktop in the past and it was always fine. I did run with -y but I never manually turned those down in the past. Something changed.

    – Stonecraft
    Jun 10 at 1:06







  • 1





    You didn't use Xubuntu intended packages, you used upstream's xfce4 which pulled in desktop-base or "common files for the Debian Desktop" without the Xubuntu team's changes. Xubuntu branding is there in Xubuntu, and no Xubuntu doesn't use GNOME launcher. XFCE though is going thru big changes, XFCE 4.14 is in RC currently! (all GTK+3)

    – guiverc
    Jun 10 at 12:29








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2





There is definitely something amiss here. How exactly did you install xfce? IMO if you want Ubuntu with the xfce desktop, you should start with Xubuntu as your base. Ubuntu server is really intended to be headless or command line only -- If you want more of a minimalist approach to start with and add packages - it's better to use the MinimalCD

– Nmath
Jun 9 at 23:58





There is definitely something amiss here. How exactly did you install xfce? IMO if you want Ubuntu with the xfce desktop, you should start with Xubuntu as your base. Ubuntu server is really intended to be headless or command line only -- If you want more of a minimalist approach to start with and add packages - it's better to use the MinimalCD

– Nmath
Jun 9 at 23:58













No, I want to use Ubuntu Server (this machine is a host for desktop virtualization with KVM), I just want a very minimal XFCE desktop environment for ease of administration. I have done this just fine in the past. I installed it by installing Ubuntu Server 19.04 via the classic installer and then running sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade and then sudo apt install xfce4 xfce4-screenshooter geany firefox gparted. Those were literally the only commands I ran on the system. Also I did a run with memtest recently and got no errors.

– Stonecraft
Jun 10 at 0:04





No, I want to use Ubuntu Server (this machine is a host for desktop virtualization with KVM), I just want a very minimal XFCE desktop environment for ease of administration. I have done this just fine in the past. I installed it by installing Ubuntu Server 19.04 via the classic installer and then running sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade and then sudo apt install xfce4 xfce4-screenshooter geany firefox gparted. Those were literally the only commands I ran on the system. Also I did a run with memtest recently and got no errors.

– Stonecraft
Jun 10 at 0:04




2




2





You didn't install the xubuntu desktop, instead xfce4 (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/xfce4) which does include desktop-base (common files for the Debian Desktop (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/desktop-base) which suggests gnome (Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components) so I'd check your logs and see what you actually installed; you may have accepted the suggest packages (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/gnome) pulling in gnome because of your provided command. If you did hit 'y' or -y to accept recommends, you should consider --no-install-recommends

– guiverc
Jun 10 at 0:59






You didn't install the xubuntu desktop, instead xfce4 (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/xfce4) which does include desktop-base (common files for the Debian Desktop (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/desktop-base) which suggests gnome (Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components) so I'd check your logs and see what you actually installed; you may have accepted the suggest packages (packages.ubuntu.com/disco/gnome) pulling in gnome because of your provided command. If you did hit 'y' or -y to accept recommends, you should consider --no-install-recommends

– guiverc
Jun 10 at 0:59














I am sure that I have always installed xfce4, not desktop in the past and it was always fine. I did run with -y but I never manually turned those down in the past. Something changed.

– Stonecraft
Jun 10 at 1:06






I am sure that I have always installed xfce4, not desktop in the past and it was always fine. I did run with -y but I never manually turned those down in the past. Something changed.

– Stonecraft
Jun 10 at 1:06





1




1





You didn't use Xubuntu intended packages, you used upstream's xfce4 which pulled in desktop-base or "common files for the Debian Desktop" without the Xubuntu team's changes. Xubuntu branding is there in Xubuntu, and no Xubuntu doesn't use GNOME launcher. XFCE though is going thru big changes, XFCE 4.14 is in RC currently! (all GTK+3)

– guiverc
Jun 10 at 12:29






You didn't use Xubuntu intended packages, you used upstream's xfce4 which pulled in desktop-base or "common files for the Debian Desktop" without the Xubuntu team's changes. Xubuntu branding is there in Xubuntu, and no Xubuntu doesn't use GNOME launcher. XFCE though is going thru big changes, XFCE 4.14 is in RC currently! (all GTK+3)

– guiverc
Jun 10 at 12:29











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which does include desktop-base https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/desktop-base described as




common files for the Debian Desktop




which suggests gnome https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/gnome




Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components




so I'd check your logs and see what you actually installed.



You may have accepted the suggested/recommended packages pulling in gnome because of your provided command, esp. if you 'y' or included a -y to accept recommends; possibly you should consider --no-install-recommends






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which does include desktop-base https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/desktop-base described as




common files for the Debian Desktop




which suggests gnome https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/gnome




Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components




so I'd check your logs and see what you actually installed.



You may have accepted the suggested/recommended packages pulling in gnome because of your provided command, esp. if you 'y' or included a -y to accept recommends; possibly you should consider --no-install-recommends






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  • This behavior must be new, because that is what I have always done in the past and not ended up with Gnome.

    – Stonecraft
    Jun 10 at 1:08















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You didn't install the xubuntu desktop, instead xfce4



https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/xfce4



which does include desktop-base https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/desktop-base described as




common files for the Debian Desktop




which suggests gnome https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/gnome




Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components




so I'd check your logs and see what you actually installed.



You may have accepted the suggested/recommended packages pulling in gnome because of your provided command, esp. if you 'y' or included a -y to accept recommends; possibly you should consider --no-install-recommends






share|improve this answer























  • This behavior must be new, because that is what I have always done in the past and not ended up with Gnome.

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    Jun 10 at 1:08













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You didn't install the xubuntu desktop, instead xfce4



https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/xfce4



which does include desktop-base https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/desktop-base described as




common files for the Debian Desktop




which suggests gnome https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/gnome




Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components




so I'd check your logs and see what you actually installed.



You may have accepted the suggested/recommended packages pulling in gnome because of your provided command, esp. if you 'y' or included a -y to accept recommends; possibly you should consider --no-install-recommends






share|improve this answer













You didn't install the xubuntu desktop, instead xfce4



https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/xfce4



which does include desktop-base https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/desktop-base described as




common files for the Debian Desktop




which suggests gnome https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/gnome




Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components




so I'd check your logs and see what you actually installed.



You may have accepted the suggested/recommended packages pulling in gnome because of your provided command, esp. if you 'y' or included a -y to accept recommends; possibly you should consider --no-install-recommends







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