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How to quickly solve partial fractions equation?
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Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)How can this indefinite integral be solved without partial fractions?Separation of variables and substituion; first integral from the Euler-Differential Equation for the minimal surface problemHow to set up partial fractions?How to solve $int frac,dx(x^3 + x + 1)^3$?How to solve this integral by parts?Integration of rational functions by partial fractionsCompute $int _0 ^infty fracx^alpha1+x^2, mathrm d x$ for $-1<alpha<1$How can $int fracdx(x+a)^2(x+b)^2$ be found?Solve $int frac1cos^2(x)+cos(x)+1dx$How do I solve this trivial complex integral $int^w_0 fracbz(z-a)(z+a)textrmdz$?
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Often I am dealing with an integral of let's say:
$$intfracdt(t-2)(t+3)$$
or
$$int fracdtt(t-4)$$
or to make this a more general case in which I am interested the most:
$$int fracdt(t+alpha)(t+beta) quad quad alpha, beta in mathbbR$$
Basically any integral with decomposed polynomial of second degree in the denominator. Obviously this leads to sum of two natural logarithms.
What I do is write down partial fractions equation and then solve system of linear equations (2 variables here):
$$frac1(t+alpha)(t+beta) = fracAt+alpha + fracBt+beta$$
After solving this I end up with some $A, B$ coefficients and I can solve the integral.
Is there faster way to find $A, B$ ? Some algorithm or anything that I can follow and would always work for such case? Surely, solving that does not take much time but I just wonder if it could be done even faster.
(bonus question: what if there were more variables, like 3 variables?)
I would greatly appreciate all feedback as it could help me save countless number of minutes in the future.
calculus integration indefinite-integrals quadratics partial-fractions
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Often I am dealing with an integral of let's say:
$$intfracdt(t-2)(t+3)$$
or
$$int fracdtt(t-4)$$
or to make this a more general case in which I am interested the most:
$$int fracdt(t+alpha)(t+beta) quad quad alpha, beta in mathbbR$$
Basically any integral with decomposed polynomial of second degree in the denominator. Obviously this leads to sum of two natural logarithms.
What I do is write down partial fractions equation and then solve system of linear equations (2 variables here):
$$frac1(t+alpha)(t+beta) = fracAt+alpha + fracBt+beta$$
After solving this I end up with some $A, B$ coefficients and I can solve the integral.
Is there faster way to find $A, B$ ? Some algorithm or anything that I can follow and would always work for such case? Surely, solving that does not take much time but I just wonder if it could be done even faster.
(bonus question: what if there were more variables, like 3 variables?)
I would greatly appreciate all feedback as it could help me save countless number of minutes in the future.
calculus integration indefinite-integrals quadratics partial-fractions
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Also when I think about it, I wonder if there's even a general method (beyond the one you referred to). I can see very easily a general solution for when (i) the numerator is $1$ (ii) $alpha ne beta$ (iii) we only have a product of two factors in the denominator, but that's such a narrow set of circumstances that I wonder if it's worth it. Maybe someone has a more general form though.
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– Eevee Trainer
Apr 12 at 1:25
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Often I am dealing with an integral of let's say:
$$intfracdt(t-2)(t+3)$$
or
$$int fracdtt(t-4)$$
or to make this a more general case in which I am interested the most:
$$int fracdt(t+alpha)(t+beta) quad quad alpha, beta in mathbbR$$
Basically any integral with decomposed polynomial of second degree in the denominator. Obviously this leads to sum of two natural logarithms.
What I do is write down partial fractions equation and then solve system of linear equations (2 variables here):
$$frac1(t+alpha)(t+beta) = fracAt+alpha + fracBt+beta$$
After solving this I end up with some $A, B$ coefficients and I can solve the integral.
Is there faster way to find $A, B$ ? Some algorithm or anything that I can follow and would always work for such case? Surely, solving that does not take much time but I just wonder if it could be done even faster.
(bonus question: what if there were more variables, like 3 variables?)
I would greatly appreciate all feedback as it could help me save countless number of minutes in the future.
calculus integration indefinite-integrals quadratics partial-fractions
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Often I am dealing with an integral of let's say:
$$intfracdt(t-2)(t+3)$$
or
$$int fracdtt(t-4)$$
or to make this a more general case in which I am interested the most:
$$int fracdt(t+alpha)(t+beta) quad quad alpha, beta in mathbbR$$
Basically any integral with decomposed polynomial of second degree in the denominator. Obviously this leads to sum of two natural logarithms.
What I do is write down partial fractions equation and then solve system of linear equations (2 variables here):
$$frac1(t+alpha)(t+beta) = fracAt+alpha + fracBt+beta$$
After solving this I end up with some $A, B$ coefficients and I can solve the integral.
Is there faster way to find $A, B$ ? Some algorithm or anything that I can follow and would always work for such case? Surely, solving that does not take much time but I just wonder if it could be done even faster.
(bonus question: what if there were more variables, like 3 variables?)
I would greatly appreciate all feedback as it could help me save countless number of minutes in the future.
calculus integration indefinite-integrals quadratics partial-fractions
calculus integration indefinite-integrals quadratics partial-fractions
edited Apr 12 at 1:28
weno
asked Apr 12 at 1:15
wenoweno
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Also when I think about it, I wonder if there's even a general method (beyond the one you referred to). I can see very easily a general solution for when (i) the numerator is $1$ (ii) $alpha ne beta$ (iii) we only have a product of two factors in the denominator, but that's such a narrow set of circumstances that I wonder if it's worth it. Maybe someone has a more general form though.
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– Eevee Trainer
Apr 12 at 1:25
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Also when I think about it, I wonder if there's even a general method (beyond the one you referred to). I can see very easily a general solution for when (i) the numerator is $1$ (ii) $alpha ne beta$ (iii) we only have a product of two factors in the denominator, but that's such a narrow set of circumstances that I wonder if it's worth it. Maybe someone has a more general form though.
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– Eevee Trainer
Apr 12 at 1:25
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Also when I think about it, I wonder if there's even a general method (beyond the one you referred to). I can see very easily a general solution for when (i) the numerator is $1$ (ii) $alpha ne beta$ (iii) we only have a product of two factors in the denominator, but that's such a narrow set of circumstances that I wonder if it's worth it. Maybe someone has a more general form though.
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– Eevee Trainer
Apr 12 at 1:25
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Also when I think about it, I wonder if there's even a general method (beyond the one you referred to). I can see very easily a general solution for when (i) the numerator is $1$ (ii) $alpha ne beta$ (iii) we only have a product of two factors in the denominator, but that's such a narrow set of circumstances that I wonder if it's worth it. Maybe someone has a more general form though.
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– Eevee Trainer
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Here's your answer
for general $n$.
$dfrac1prod_k=1^n (x-a_k)
=sum_k=1^n dfracb_kx-a_k
$.
Therefore
$1
=sum_k=1^n dfracb_kprod_j=1^n (x-a_j)x-a_k
=sum_k=1^n b_kprod_j=1, jne k^n (x-a_j)
$.
Setting
$x = a_i$
for each $i$,
all the terms
except the one with $k=i$
have the factor $a_i-a_i$,
so
$1 = b_iprod_j=1, jne i^n (a_i-a_j)
$
so that
$b_i
=dfrac1prod_j=1, jne i^n (a_i-a_j)
$.
For $n=2$,
$b_1
=dfrac1a_1-a_2
$,
$b_2
=dfrac1a_2-a_1
$.
For $n=3$,
$b_1
=dfrac1(a_1-a_2)(a_1-a_3)
$,
$b_2
=dfrac1(a_2-a_1)(a_2-a_3)
$,
$b_3
=dfrac1(a_3-a_1)(a_3-a_2)
$.
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If your fraction is in form of $$ frac 1(t-alpha_1)(t-alpha_2)(t-alpha_3)...(t-alpha_k)$$ where the $alpha s$ are different, there is an easy way to find the partial fraction decomposition.
Let $t=alpha_i$ and cover $(t-alpha_i)$ while evaluating the above fraction to get your $A_i$
For example $$ frac1(t-1)(t-3)(t+4) = frac A_1(t-1) + frac A_2(t-3) +frac A_3(t+4)$$
Where $$A_1 = frac 1(1-3)(1+4)=frac-110$$
$$A_2 = frac 1(3-1)(3+4) = frac114$$
$$A_3=frac 1(-4-1)(-4-3)=frac135$$
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Unless I am misunderstanding the question, by "root rotation" (when $beta neq alpha$):
$$frac1(t + alpha)(t + beta) = fracAt + alpha + fracBt + beta$$
$$1 = A(t + beta) + B(t + alpha)$$
Evaluating $-beta$ for $t$:
$$1 = B(alpha - beta)$$
$$B = frac1alpha - beta$$
Similarly, for $A$, sub in $-alpha$:
$$1 = A(beta - alpha)$$
$$A = frac1beta - alpha$$
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I'll be coming back to this post. This is what I was looking for.
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– weno
Apr 12 at 1:45
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Unless that takes you too much time, would you be able to derive formulas for $A, B, C$, please? Function of form $frac1(t+alpha)(t+beta)(t+gamma)$ and $alpha neq beta neq gamma$
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Let $n$,$m$ be integers such that $nge 2$ and $n-1 ge m ge 0$ .Then if the roots of the polynomial in question are all distinct the following formula holds:
beginequation
fracx^mprodlimits_j=1^n (x-b_j) = sumlimits_i=1^n frac1x-b_i cdot fracb_i^mprodlimits_j=1,jneq i^n (b_i-b_j)
endequation
Now, if the roots are not distinct then it gets more complicated but even at the outset it is clear that we can generate a similar formula by differentiating both sides with respect to the particular root a certain number of times. For example if $n=2$ and $m_1 ge 1$, $m_2 ge 1$ and $mge 0$ the following formula holds true:
begineqnarray
fracx^m(x-b_1)^m_1 (x-b_2)^m_2=sumlimits_j=0^m left( sumlimits_l_1=1^m_1 binomm_1+m_2-1-l_1m_2-1(-1)^m_2 b_1^j frac1_l_1=1 binomm-1j-1 + 1_l_1>1 binommj(x-b_1)^l_1-m+j (-b_1+b_2)^m_1+m_2-l_1+
sumlimits_l_1=1^m_2 binomm_1+m_2-1-l_1m_1-1(-1)^m_1 b_2^j
frac1_l_1=1 binomm-1j-1 + 1_l_1>1 binommj(x-b_2)^l_1-m+j (-b_2+b_1)^m_1+m_2-l_1
right)
endeqnarray
In[5732]:= ll = ; x =.; b1 =.; b2 =.; m = RandomInteger[0, 10];
For[count = 1, count <= 100, count++,
m1, m2 = RandomInteger[1, 5, 2]; x =.; b1 =.; b2 =.;
xx1 =
Sum[
Binomial[m1 + m2 - 1 - l1, m2 - 1] ((-1)^
m2 b1^j If[l1 == 1, Binomial[m - 1, j - 1],
Binomial[m, j]])/((x - b1)^(l1 - m + j) (-b1 + b2)^(
m1 + m2 - l1)), l1, 1, m1, j, 0, m] +
Sum[ Binomial[m1 + m2 - 1 - l1, m1 - 1] ((-1)^
m1 b2^j If[l1 == 1, Binomial[m - 1, j - 1],
Binomial[m, j]])/((x - b2)^(l1 - m + j) (-b2 + b1)^(
m1 + m2 - l1)), l1, 1, m2, j, 0, m];
xx2 = x^m/((x - b1)^m1 (x - b2)^m2);
ll = Join[ll, Simplify[xx1 - xx2]];
];
ll
Out[5734]= 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
It would be interesting to derive similar formulae in the case $n > 2$.
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Here's your answer
for general $n$.
$dfrac1prod_k=1^n (x-a_k)
=sum_k=1^n dfracb_kx-a_k
$.
Therefore
$1
=sum_k=1^n dfracb_kprod_j=1^n (x-a_j)x-a_k
=sum_k=1^n b_kprod_j=1, jne k^n (x-a_j)
$.
Setting
$x = a_i$
for each $i$,
all the terms
except the one with $k=i$
have the factor $a_i-a_i$,
so
$1 = b_iprod_j=1, jne i^n (a_i-a_j)
$
so that
$b_i
=dfrac1prod_j=1, jne i^n (a_i-a_j)
$.
For $n=2$,
$b_1
=dfrac1a_1-a_2
$,
$b_2
=dfrac1a_2-a_1
$.
For $n=3$,
$b_1
=dfrac1(a_1-a_2)(a_1-a_3)
$,
$b_2
=dfrac1(a_2-a_1)(a_2-a_3)
$,
$b_3
=dfrac1(a_3-a_1)(a_3-a_2)
$.
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$begingroup$
Here's your answer
for general $n$.
$dfrac1prod_k=1^n (x-a_k)
=sum_k=1^n dfracb_kx-a_k
$.
Therefore
$1
=sum_k=1^n dfracb_kprod_j=1^n (x-a_j)x-a_k
=sum_k=1^n b_kprod_j=1, jne k^n (x-a_j)
$.
Setting
$x = a_i$
for each $i$,
all the terms
except the one with $k=i$
have the factor $a_i-a_i$,
so
$1 = b_iprod_j=1, jne i^n (a_i-a_j)
$
so that
$b_i
=dfrac1prod_j=1, jne i^n (a_i-a_j)
$.
For $n=2$,
$b_1
=dfrac1a_1-a_2
$,
$b_2
=dfrac1a_2-a_1
$.
For $n=3$,
$b_1
=dfrac1(a_1-a_2)(a_1-a_3)
$,
$b_2
=dfrac1(a_2-a_1)(a_2-a_3)
$,
$b_3
=dfrac1(a_3-a_1)(a_3-a_2)
$.
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$begingroup$
Here's your answer
for general $n$.
$dfrac1prod_k=1^n (x-a_k)
=sum_k=1^n dfracb_kx-a_k
$.
Therefore
$1
=sum_k=1^n dfracb_kprod_j=1^n (x-a_j)x-a_k
=sum_k=1^n b_kprod_j=1, jne k^n (x-a_j)
$.
Setting
$x = a_i$
for each $i$,
all the terms
except the one with $k=i$
have the factor $a_i-a_i$,
so
$1 = b_iprod_j=1, jne i^n (a_i-a_j)
$
so that
$b_i
=dfrac1prod_j=1, jne i^n (a_i-a_j)
$.
For $n=2$,
$b_1
=dfrac1a_1-a_2
$,
$b_2
=dfrac1a_2-a_1
$.
For $n=3$,
$b_1
=dfrac1(a_1-a_2)(a_1-a_3)
$,
$b_2
=dfrac1(a_2-a_1)(a_2-a_3)
$,
$b_3
=dfrac1(a_3-a_1)(a_3-a_2)
$.
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Here's your answer
for general $n$.
$dfrac1prod_k=1^n (x-a_k)
=sum_k=1^n dfracb_kx-a_k
$.
Therefore
$1
=sum_k=1^n dfracb_kprod_j=1^n (x-a_j)x-a_k
=sum_k=1^n b_kprod_j=1, jne k^n (x-a_j)
$.
Setting
$x = a_i$
for each $i$,
all the terms
except the one with $k=i$
have the factor $a_i-a_i$,
so
$1 = b_iprod_j=1, jne i^n (a_i-a_j)
$
so that
$b_i
=dfrac1prod_j=1, jne i^n (a_i-a_j)
$.
For $n=2$,
$b_1
=dfrac1a_1-a_2
$,
$b_2
=dfrac1a_2-a_1
$.
For $n=3$,
$b_1
=dfrac1(a_1-a_2)(a_1-a_3)
$,
$b_2
=dfrac1(a_2-a_1)(a_2-a_3)
$,
$b_3
=dfrac1(a_3-a_1)(a_3-a_2)
$.
answered Apr 12 at 4:40
marty cohenmarty cohen
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If your fraction is in form of $$ frac 1(t-alpha_1)(t-alpha_2)(t-alpha_3)...(t-alpha_k)$$ where the $alpha s$ are different, there is an easy way to find the partial fraction decomposition.
Let $t=alpha_i$ and cover $(t-alpha_i)$ while evaluating the above fraction to get your $A_i$
For example $$ frac1(t-1)(t-3)(t+4) = frac A_1(t-1) + frac A_2(t-3) +frac A_3(t+4)$$
Where $$A_1 = frac 1(1-3)(1+4)=frac-110$$
$$A_2 = frac 1(3-1)(3+4) = frac114$$
$$A_3=frac 1(-4-1)(-4-3)=frac135$$
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If your fraction is in form of $$ frac 1(t-alpha_1)(t-alpha_2)(t-alpha_3)...(t-alpha_k)$$ where the $alpha s$ are different, there is an easy way to find the partial fraction decomposition.
Let $t=alpha_i$ and cover $(t-alpha_i)$ while evaluating the above fraction to get your $A_i$
For example $$ frac1(t-1)(t-3)(t+4) = frac A_1(t-1) + frac A_2(t-3) +frac A_3(t+4)$$
Where $$A_1 = frac 1(1-3)(1+4)=frac-110$$
$$A_2 = frac 1(3-1)(3+4) = frac114$$
$$A_3=frac 1(-4-1)(-4-3)=frac135$$
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If your fraction is in form of $$ frac 1(t-alpha_1)(t-alpha_2)(t-alpha_3)...(t-alpha_k)$$ where the $alpha s$ are different, there is an easy way to find the partial fraction decomposition.
Let $t=alpha_i$ and cover $(t-alpha_i)$ while evaluating the above fraction to get your $A_i$
For example $$ frac1(t-1)(t-3)(t+4) = frac A_1(t-1) + frac A_2(t-3) +frac A_3(t+4)$$
Where $$A_1 = frac 1(1-3)(1+4)=frac-110$$
$$A_2 = frac 1(3-1)(3+4) = frac114$$
$$A_3=frac 1(-4-1)(-4-3)=frac135$$
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If your fraction is in form of $$ frac 1(t-alpha_1)(t-alpha_2)(t-alpha_3)...(t-alpha_k)$$ where the $alpha s$ are different, there is an easy way to find the partial fraction decomposition.
Let $t=alpha_i$ and cover $(t-alpha_i)$ while evaluating the above fraction to get your $A_i$
For example $$ frac1(t-1)(t-3)(t+4) = frac A_1(t-1) + frac A_2(t-3) +frac A_3(t+4)$$
Where $$A_1 = frac 1(1-3)(1+4)=frac-110$$
$$A_2 = frac 1(3-1)(3+4) = frac114$$
$$A_3=frac 1(-4-1)(-4-3)=frac135$$
answered Apr 12 at 2:09
Mohammad Riazi-KermaniMohammad Riazi-Kermani
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Unless I am misunderstanding the question, by "root rotation" (when $beta neq alpha$):
$$frac1(t + alpha)(t + beta) = fracAt + alpha + fracBt + beta$$
$$1 = A(t + beta) + B(t + alpha)$$
Evaluating $-beta$ for $t$:
$$1 = B(alpha - beta)$$
$$B = frac1alpha - beta$$
Similarly, for $A$, sub in $-alpha$:
$$1 = A(beta - alpha)$$
$$A = frac1beta - alpha$$
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I'll be coming back to this post. This is what I was looking for.
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– weno
Apr 12 at 1:45
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Unless that takes you too much time, would you be able to derive formulas for $A, B, C$, please? Function of form $frac1(t+alpha)(t+beta)(t+gamma)$ and $alpha neq beta neq gamma$
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– weno
Apr 12 at 1:47
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Unless I am misunderstanding the question, by "root rotation" (when $beta neq alpha$):
$$frac1(t + alpha)(t + beta) = fracAt + alpha + fracBt + beta$$
$$1 = A(t + beta) + B(t + alpha)$$
Evaluating $-beta$ for $t$:
$$1 = B(alpha - beta)$$
$$B = frac1alpha - beta$$
Similarly, for $A$, sub in $-alpha$:
$$1 = A(beta - alpha)$$
$$A = frac1beta - alpha$$
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$begingroup$
I'll be coming back to this post. This is what I was looking for.
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– weno
Apr 12 at 1:45
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Unless that takes you too much time, would you be able to derive formulas for $A, B, C$, please? Function of form $frac1(t+alpha)(t+beta)(t+gamma)$ and $alpha neq beta neq gamma$
$endgroup$
– weno
Apr 12 at 1:47
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Unless I am misunderstanding the question, by "root rotation" (when $beta neq alpha$):
$$frac1(t + alpha)(t + beta) = fracAt + alpha + fracBt + beta$$
$$1 = A(t + beta) + B(t + alpha)$$
Evaluating $-beta$ for $t$:
$$1 = B(alpha - beta)$$
$$B = frac1alpha - beta$$
Similarly, for $A$, sub in $-alpha$:
$$1 = A(beta - alpha)$$
$$A = frac1beta - alpha$$
$endgroup$
Unless I am misunderstanding the question, by "root rotation" (when $beta neq alpha$):
$$frac1(t + alpha)(t + beta) = fracAt + alpha + fracBt + beta$$
$$1 = A(t + beta) + B(t + alpha)$$
Evaluating $-beta$ for $t$:
$$1 = B(alpha - beta)$$
$$B = frac1alpha - beta$$
Similarly, for $A$, sub in $-alpha$:
$$1 = A(beta - alpha)$$
$$A = frac1beta - alpha$$
edited Apr 12 at 6:15
MichaelChirico
3,5381126
3,5381126
answered Apr 12 at 1:37
DairDair
2,00011124
2,00011124
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I'll be coming back to this post. This is what I was looking for.
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– weno
Apr 12 at 1:45
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Unless that takes you too much time, would you be able to derive formulas for $A, B, C$, please? Function of form $frac1(t+alpha)(t+beta)(t+gamma)$ and $alpha neq beta neq gamma$
$endgroup$
– weno
Apr 12 at 1:47
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I'll be coming back to this post. This is what I was looking for.
$endgroup$
– weno
Apr 12 at 1:45
$begingroup$
Unless that takes you too much time, would you be able to derive formulas for $A, B, C$, please? Function of form $frac1(t+alpha)(t+beta)(t+gamma)$ and $alpha neq beta neq gamma$
$endgroup$
– weno
Apr 12 at 1:47
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I'll be coming back to this post. This is what I was looking for.
$endgroup$
– weno
Apr 12 at 1:45
$begingroup$
I'll be coming back to this post. This is what I was looking for.
$endgroup$
– weno
Apr 12 at 1:45
$begingroup$
Unless that takes you too much time, would you be able to derive formulas for $A, B, C$, please? Function of form $frac1(t+alpha)(t+beta)(t+gamma)$ and $alpha neq beta neq gamma$
$endgroup$
– weno
Apr 12 at 1:47
$begingroup$
Unless that takes you too much time, would you be able to derive formulas for $A, B, C$, please? Function of form $frac1(t+alpha)(t+beta)(t+gamma)$ and $alpha neq beta neq gamma$
$endgroup$
– weno
Apr 12 at 1:47
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let $n$,$m$ be integers such that $nge 2$ and $n-1 ge m ge 0$ .Then if the roots of the polynomial in question are all distinct the following formula holds:
beginequation
fracx^mprodlimits_j=1^n (x-b_j) = sumlimits_i=1^n frac1x-b_i cdot fracb_i^mprodlimits_j=1,jneq i^n (b_i-b_j)
endequation
Now, if the roots are not distinct then it gets more complicated but even at the outset it is clear that we can generate a similar formula by differentiating both sides with respect to the particular root a certain number of times. For example if $n=2$ and $m_1 ge 1$, $m_2 ge 1$ and $mge 0$ the following formula holds true:
begineqnarray
fracx^m(x-b_1)^m_1 (x-b_2)^m_2=sumlimits_j=0^m left( sumlimits_l_1=1^m_1 binomm_1+m_2-1-l_1m_2-1(-1)^m_2 b_1^j frac1_l_1=1 binomm-1j-1 + 1_l_1>1 binommj(x-b_1)^l_1-m+j (-b_1+b_2)^m_1+m_2-l_1+
sumlimits_l_1=1^m_2 binomm_1+m_2-1-l_1m_1-1(-1)^m_1 b_2^j
frac1_l_1=1 binomm-1j-1 + 1_l_1>1 binommj(x-b_2)^l_1-m+j (-b_2+b_1)^m_1+m_2-l_1
right)
endeqnarray
In[5732]:= ll = ; x =.; b1 =.; b2 =.; m = RandomInteger[0, 10];
For[count = 1, count <= 100, count++,
m1, m2 = RandomInteger[1, 5, 2]; x =.; b1 =.; b2 =.;
xx1 =
Sum[
Binomial[m1 + m2 - 1 - l1, m2 - 1] ((-1)^
m2 b1^j If[l1 == 1, Binomial[m - 1, j - 1],
Binomial[m, j]])/((x - b1)^(l1 - m + j) (-b1 + b2)^(
m1 + m2 - l1)), l1, 1, m1, j, 0, m] +
Sum[ Binomial[m1 + m2 - 1 - l1, m1 - 1] ((-1)^
m1 b2^j If[l1 == 1, Binomial[m - 1, j - 1],
Binomial[m, j]])/((x - b2)^(l1 - m + j) (-b2 + b1)^(
m1 + m2 - l1)), l1, 1, m2, j, 0, m];
xx2 = x^m/((x - b1)^m1 (x - b2)^m2);
ll = Join[ll, Simplify[xx1 - xx2]];
];
ll
Out[5734]= 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
It would be interesting to derive similar formulae in the case $n > 2$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let $n$,$m$ be integers such that $nge 2$ and $n-1 ge m ge 0$ .Then if the roots of the polynomial in question are all distinct the following formula holds:
beginequation
fracx^mprodlimits_j=1^n (x-b_j) = sumlimits_i=1^n frac1x-b_i cdot fracb_i^mprodlimits_j=1,jneq i^n (b_i-b_j)
endequation
Now, if the roots are not distinct then it gets more complicated but even at the outset it is clear that we can generate a similar formula by differentiating both sides with respect to the particular root a certain number of times. For example if $n=2$ and $m_1 ge 1$, $m_2 ge 1$ and $mge 0$ the following formula holds true:
begineqnarray
fracx^m(x-b_1)^m_1 (x-b_2)^m_2=sumlimits_j=0^m left( sumlimits_l_1=1^m_1 binomm_1+m_2-1-l_1m_2-1(-1)^m_2 b_1^j frac1_l_1=1 binomm-1j-1 + 1_l_1>1 binommj(x-b_1)^l_1-m+j (-b_1+b_2)^m_1+m_2-l_1+
sumlimits_l_1=1^m_2 binomm_1+m_2-1-l_1m_1-1(-1)^m_1 b_2^j
frac1_l_1=1 binomm-1j-1 + 1_l_1>1 binommj(x-b_2)^l_1-m+j (-b_2+b_1)^m_1+m_2-l_1
right)
endeqnarray
In[5732]:= ll = ; x =.; b1 =.; b2 =.; m = RandomInteger[0, 10];
For[count = 1, count <= 100, count++,
m1, m2 = RandomInteger[1, 5, 2]; x =.; b1 =.; b2 =.;
xx1 =
Sum[
Binomial[m1 + m2 - 1 - l1, m2 - 1] ((-1)^
m2 b1^j If[l1 == 1, Binomial[m - 1, j - 1],
Binomial[m, j]])/((x - b1)^(l1 - m + j) (-b1 + b2)^(
m1 + m2 - l1)), l1, 1, m1, j, 0, m] +
Sum[ Binomial[m1 + m2 - 1 - l1, m1 - 1] ((-1)^
m1 b2^j If[l1 == 1, Binomial[m - 1, j - 1],
Binomial[m, j]])/((x - b2)^(l1 - m + j) (-b2 + b1)^(
m1 + m2 - l1)), l1, 1, m2, j, 0, m];
xx2 = x^m/((x - b1)^m1 (x - b2)^m2);
ll = Join[ll, Simplify[xx1 - xx2]];
];
ll
Out[5734]= 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
It would be interesting to derive similar formulae in the case $n > 2$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let $n$,$m$ be integers such that $nge 2$ and $n-1 ge m ge 0$ .Then if the roots of the polynomial in question are all distinct the following formula holds:
beginequation
fracx^mprodlimits_j=1^n (x-b_j) = sumlimits_i=1^n frac1x-b_i cdot fracb_i^mprodlimits_j=1,jneq i^n (b_i-b_j)
endequation
Now, if the roots are not distinct then it gets more complicated but even at the outset it is clear that we can generate a similar formula by differentiating both sides with respect to the particular root a certain number of times. For example if $n=2$ and $m_1 ge 1$, $m_2 ge 1$ and $mge 0$ the following formula holds true:
begineqnarray
fracx^m(x-b_1)^m_1 (x-b_2)^m_2=sumlimits_j=0^m left( sumlimits_l_1=1^m_1 binomm_1+m_2-1-l_1m_2-1(-1)^m_2 b_1^j frac1_l_1=1 binomm-1j-1 + 1_l_1>1 binommj(x-b_1)^l_1-m+j (-b_1+b_2)^m_1+m_2-l_1+
sumlimits_l_1=1^m_2 binomm_1+m_2-1-l_1m_1-1(-1)^m_1 b_2^j
frac1_l_1=1 binomm-1j-1 + 1_l_1>1 binommj(x-b_2)^l_1-m+j (-b_2+b_1)^m_1+m_2-l_1
right)
endeqnarray
In[5732]:= ll = ; x =.; b1 =.; b2 =.; m = RandomInteger[0, 10];
For[count = 1, count <= 100, count++,
m1, m2 = RandomInteger[1, 5, 2]; x =.; b1 =.; b2 =.;
xx1 =
Sum[
Binomial[m1 + m2 - 1 - l1, m2 - 1] ((-1)^
m2 b1^j If[l1 == 1, Binomial[m - 1, j - 1],
Binomial[m, j]])/((x - b1)^(l1 - m + j) (-b1 + b2)^(
m1 + m2 - l1)), l1, 1, m1, j, 0, m] +
Sum[ Binomial[m1 + m2 - 1 - l1, m1 - 1] ((-1)^
m1 b2^j If[l1 == 1, Binomial[m - 1, j - 1],
Binomial[m, j]])/((x - b2)^(l1 - m + j) (-b2 + b1)^(
m1 + m2 - l1)), l1, 1, m2, j, 0, m];
xx2 = x^m/((x - b1)^m1 (x - b2)^m2);
ll = Join[ll, Simplify[xx1 - xx2]];
];
ll
Out[5734]= 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
It would be interesting to derive similar formulae in the case $n > 2$.
$endgroup$
Let $n$,$m$ be integers such that $nge 2$ and $n-1 ge m ge 0$ .Then if the roots of the polynomial in question are all distinct the following formula holds:
beginequation
fracx^mprodlimits_j=1^n (x-b_j) = sumlimits_i=1^n frac1x-b_i cdot fracb_i^mprodlimits_j=1,jneq i^n (b_i-b_j)
endequation
Now, if the roots are not distinct then it gets more complicated but even at the outset it is clear that we can generate a similar formula by differentiating both sides with respect to the particular root a certain number of times. For example if $n=2$ and $m_1 ge 1$, $m_2 ge 1$ and $mge 0$ the following formula holds true:
begineqnarray
fracx^m(x-b_1)^m_1 (x-b_2)^m_2=sumlimits_j=0^m left( sumlimits_l_1=1^m_1 binomm_1+m_2-1-l_1m_2-1(-1)^m_2 b_1^j frac1_l_1=1 binomm-1j-1 + 1_l_1>1 binommj(x-b_1)^l_1-m+j (-b_1+b_2)^m_1+m_2-l_1+
sumlimits_l_1=1^m_2 binomm_1+m_2-1-l_1m_1-1(-1)^m_1 b_2^j
frac1_l_1=1 binomm-1j-1 + 1_l_1>1 binommj(x-b_2)^l_1-m+j (-b_2+b_1)^m_1+m_2-l_1
right)
endeqnarray
In[5732]:= ll = ; x =.; b1 =.; b2 =.; m = RandomInteger[0, 10];
For[count = 1, count <= 100, count++,
m1, m2 = RandomInteger[1, 5, 2]; x =.; b1 =.; b2 =.;
xx1 =
Sum[
Binomial[m1 + m2 - 1 - l1, m2 - 1] ((-1)^
m2 b1^j If[l1 == 1, Binomial[m - 1, j - 1],
Binomial[m, j]])/((x - b1)^(l1 - m + j) (-b1 + b2)^(
m1 + m2 - l1)), l1, 1, m1, j, 0, m] +
Sum[ Binomial[m1 + m2 - 1 - l1, m1 - 1] ((-1)^
m1 b2^j If[l1 == 1, Binomial[m - 1, j - 1],
Binomial[m, j]])/((x - b2)^(l1 - m + j) (-b2 + b1)^(
m1 + m2 - l1)), l1, 1, m2, j, 0, m];
xx2 = x^m/((x - b1)^m1 (x - b2)^m2);
ll = Join[ll, Simplify[xx1 - xx2]];
];
ll
Out[5734]= 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
It would be interesting to derive similar formulae in the case $n > 2$.
answered Apr 12 at 10:22
PrzemoPrzemo
4,71811032
4,71811032
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Also when I think about it, I wonder if there's even a general method (beyond the one you referred to). I can see very easily a general solution for when (i) the numerator is $1$ (ii) $alpha ne beta$ (iii) we only have a product of two factors in the denominator, but that's such a narrow set of circumstances that I wonder if it's worth it. Maybe someone has a more general form though.
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– Eevee Trainer
Apr 12 at 1:25