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I have two Kingston A400 120GB SSD as cache in a Synology NAS, which don't seem to support automatic offline data collection.



# smartctl -d sat -c /dev/sdc | grep -i "Auto Offline data collection" 
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
No Auto Offline data collection support.
# smartctl -d sat -o on /dev/sdc
SMART Automatic Timers not supported
SMART Enable Automatic Offline failed: scsi error aborted command


Yet when I check the attributes marked as "Offline", the RAW_VALUE one of them keeps changing (specifically 246 Total_Erase_Count), even if I dont run the manual offline data collection or self-tests in between. I checked if smartd was running just in case, but it isn't. Same thing happens with the other identical SSD.



Questions:



  1. What exactly does the offline data collection update? Does it just update the VALUE/WORST/THRESH columns in the attribute table?

  2. Do short or long self-tests update the SMART attribute data?

Output of smartctl -a:



=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Phison Driven SSDs
Device Model: KINGSTON SA400S37120G
Serial Number: [...]
LU WWN Device Id: [...]
Firmware Version: 03070009
User Capacity: 120,034,123,776 bytes [120 GB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: Solid State Device
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 4
SATA Version is: SATA 3.2, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 1.5 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Fri Apr 12 01:55:30 2019 -03
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x02) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 0) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x35) SMART execute Offline immediate.
No Auto Offline data collection support.
Abort Offline collection upon new
command.
No Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
No Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0002) Does not save SMART data before
entering power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x00) Error logging NOT supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 5
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 710
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5
148 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
149 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
167 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
168 SATA_Phy_Error_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
169 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 65
170 Bad_Blk_Ct_Erl/Lat 0x0000 100 100 010 Old_age Offline - 0/78
172 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
173 MaxAvgErase_Ct 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
192 Unsafe_Shutdown_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 024 025 000 Old_age Always - 24 (Min/Max 24/25)
196 Not_In_Use 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
199 CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
218 CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 4
231 SSD_Life_Left 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
233 Flash_Writes_GiB 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 396
241 Lifetime_Writes_GiB 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 304
242 Lifetime_Reads_GiB 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 228
244 Average_Erase_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 2
245 Max_Erase_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 10
246 Total_Erase_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 3827

SMART Error Log not supported

SMART Self-test Log not supported

Selective Self-tests/Logging not supported









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    I have two Kingston A400 120GB SSD as cache in a Synology NAS, which don't seem to support automatic offline data collection.



    # smartctl -d sat -c /dev/sdc | grep -i "Auto Offline data collection" 
    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
    No Auto Offline data collection support.
    # smartctl -d sat -o on /dev/sdc
    SMART Automatic Timers not supported
    SMART Enable Automatic Offline failed: scsi error aborted command


    Yet when I check the attributes marked as "Offline", the RAW_VALUE one of them keeps changing (specifically 246 Total_Erase_Count), even if I dont run the manual offline data collection or self-tests in between. I checked if smartd was running just in case, but it isn't. Same thing happens with the other identical SSD.



    Questions:



    1. What exactly does the offline data collection update? Does it just update the VALUE/WORST/THRESH columns in the attribute table?

    2. Do short or long self-tests update the SMART attribute data?

    Output of smartctl -a:



    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Model Family: Phison Driven SSDs
    Device Model: KINGSTON SA400S37120G
    Serial Number: [...]
    LU WWN Device Id: [...]
    Firmware Version: 03070009
    User Capacity: 120,034,123,776 bytes [120 GB]
    Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
    Rotation Rate: Solid State Device
    Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
    ATA Version is: ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 4
    SATA Version is: SATA 3.2, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 1.5 Gb/s)
    Local Time is: Fri Apr 12 01:55:30 2019 -03
    SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is: Enabled

    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

    General SMART Values:
    Offline data collection status: (0x02) Offline data collection activity
    was completed without error.
    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
    Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
    without error or no self-test has ever
    been run.
    Total time to complete Offline
    data collection: ( 0) seconds.
    Offline data collection
    capabilities: (0x35) SMART execute Offline immediate.
    No Auto Offline data collection support.
    Abort Offline collection upon new
    command.
    No Offline surface scan supported.
    Self-test supported.
    Conveyance Self-test supported.
    No Selective Self-test supported.
    SMART capabilities: (0x0002) Does not save SMART data before
    entering power-saving mode.
    Supports SMART auto save timer.
    Error logging capability: (0x00) Error logging NOT supported.
    General Purpose Logging supported.
    Short self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
    Extended self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
    Conveyance self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.

    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 5
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
    1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 710
    12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5
    148 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
    149 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
    167 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
    168 SATA_Phy_Error_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
    169 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 65
    170 Bad_Blk_Ct_Erl/Lat 0x0000 100 100 010 Old_age Offline - 0/78
    172 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
    173 MaxAvgErase_Ct 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
    181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
    182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
    187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
    192 Unsafe_Shutdown_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
    194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 024 025 000 Old_age Always - 24 (Min/Max 24/25)
    196 Not_In_Use 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
    199 CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
    218 CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 4
    231 SSD_Life_Left 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
    233 Flash_Writes_GiB 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 396
    241 Lifetime_Writes_GiB 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 304
    242 Lifetime_Reads_GiB 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 228
    244 Average_Erase_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 2
    245 Max_Erase_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 10
    246 Total_Erase_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 3827

    SMART Error Log not supported

    SMART Self-test Log not supported

    Selective Self-tests/Logging not supported









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      I have two Kingston A400 120GB SSD as cache in a Synology NAS, which don't seem to support automatic offline data collection.



      # smartctl -d sat -c /dev/sdc | grep -i "Auto Offline data collection" 
      Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
      No Auto Offline data collection support.
      # smartctl -d sat -o on /dev/sdc
      SMART Automatic Timers not supported
      SMART Enable Automatic Offline failed: scsi error aborted command


      Yet when I check the attributes marked as "Offline", the RAW_VALUE one of them keeps changing (specifically 246 Total_Erase_Count), even if I dont run the manual offline data collection or self-tests in between. I checked if smartd was running just in case, but it isn't. Same thing happens with the other identical SSD.



      Questions:



      1. What exactly does the offline data collection update? Does it just update the VALUE/WORST/THRESH columns in the attribute table?

      2. Do short or long self-tests update the SMART attribute data?

      Output of smartctl -a:



      === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
      Model Family: Phison Driven SSDs
      Device Model: KINGSTON SA400S37120G
      Serial Number: [...]
      LU WWN Device Id: [...]
      Firmware Version: 03070009
      User Capacity: 120,034,123,776 bytes [120 GB]
      Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
      Rotation Rate: Solid State Device
      Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
      ATA Version is: ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 4
      SATA Version is: SATA 3.2, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 1.5 Gb/s)
      Local Time is: Fri Apr 12 01:55:30 2019 -03
      SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
      SMART support is: Enabled

      === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
      SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

      General SMART Values:
      Offline data collection status: (0x02) Offline data collection activity
      was completed without error.
      Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
      Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
      without error or no self-test has ever
      been run.
      Total time to complete Offline
      data collection: ( 0) seconds.
      Offline data collection
      capabilities: (0x35) SMART execute Offline immediate.
      No Auto Offline data collection support.
      Abort Offline collection upon new
      command.
      No Offline surface scan supported.
      Self-test supported.
      Conveyance Self-test supported.
      No Selective Self-test supported.
      SMART capabilities: (0x0002) Does not save SMART data before
      entering power-saving mode.
      Supports SMART auto save timer.
      Error logging capability: (0x00) Error logging NOT supported.
      General Purpose Logging supported.
      Short self-test routine
      recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
      Extended self-test routine
      recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
      Conveyance self-test routine
      recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.

      SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 5
      Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
      ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
      1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 710
      12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5
      148 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
      149 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
      167 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
      168 SATA_Phy_Error_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      169 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 65
      170 Bad_Blk_Ct_Erl/Lat 0x0000 100 100 010 Old_age Offline - 0/78
      172 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      173 MaxAvgErase_Ct 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
      181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
      187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      192 Unsafe_Shutdown_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
      194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 024 025 000 Old_age Always - 24 (Min/Max 24/25)
      196 Not_In_Use 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      199 CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      218 CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 4
      231 SSD_Life_Left 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
      233 Flash_Writes_GiB 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 396
      241 Lifetime_Writes_GiB 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 304
      242 Lifetime_Reads_GiB 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 228
      244 Average_Erase_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 2
      245 Max_Erase_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 10
      246 Total_Erase_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 3827

      SMART Error Log not supported

      SMART Self-test Log not supported

      Selective Self-tests/Logging not supported









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      I have two Kingston A400 120GB SSD as cache in a Synology NAS, which don't seem to support automatic offline data collection.



      # smartctl -d sat -c /dev/sdc | grep -i "Auto Offline data collection" 
      Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
      No Auto Offline data collection support.
      # smartctl -d sat -o on /dev/sdc
      SMART Automatic Timers not supported
      SMART Enable Automatic Offline failed: scsi error aborted command


      Yet when I check the attributes marked as "Offline", the RAW_VALUE one of them keeps changing (specifically 246 Total_Erase_Count), even if I dont run the manual offline data collection or self-tests in between. I checked if smartd was running just in case, but it isn't. Same thing happens with the other identical SSD.



      Questions:



      1. What exactly does the offline data collection update? Does it just update the VALUE/WORST/THRESH columns in the attribute table?

      2. Do short or long self-tests update the SMART attribute data?

      Output of smartctl -a:



      === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
      Model Family: Phison Driven SSDs
      Device Model: KINGSTON SA400S37120G
      Serial Number: [...]
      LU WWN Device Id: [...]
      Firmware Version: 03070009
      User Capacity: 120,034,123,776 bytes [120 GB]
      Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
      Rotation Rate: Solid State Device
      Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
      ATA Version is: ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 4
      SATA Version is: SATA 3.2, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 1.5 Gb/s)
      Local Time is: Fri Apr 12 01:55:30 2019 -03
      SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
      SMART support is: Enabled

      === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
      SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

      General SMART Values:
      Offline data collection status: (0x02) Offline data collection activity
      was completed without error.
      Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
      Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
      without error or no self-test has ever
      been run.
      Total time to complete Offline
      data collection: ( 0) seconds.
      Offline data collection
      capabilities: (0x35) SMART execute Offline immediate.
      No Auto Offline data collection support.
      Abort Offline collection upon new
      command.
      No Offline surface scan supported.
      Self-test supported.
      Conveyance Self-test supported.
      No Selective Self-test supported.
      SMART capabilities: (0x0002) Does not save SMART data before
      entering power-saving mode.
      Supports SMART auto save timer.
      Error logging capability: (0x00) Error logging NOT supported.
      General Purpose Logging supported.
      Short self-test routine
      recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
      Extended self-test routine
      recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
      Conveyance self-test routine
      recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.

      SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 5
      Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
      ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
      1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 710
      12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5
      148 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
      149 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
      167 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
      168 SATA_Phy_Error_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      169 Unknown_Attribute 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 65
      170 Bad_Blk_Ct_Erl/Lat 0x0000 100 100 010 Old_age Offline - 0/78
      172 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      173 MaxAvgErase_Ct 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
      181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
      187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      192 Unsafe_Shutdown_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
      194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 024 025 000 Old_age Always - 24 (Min/Max 24/25)
      196 Not_In_Use 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      199 CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
      218 CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 4
      231 SSD_Life_Left 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
      233 Flash_Writes_GiB 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 396
      241 Lifetime_Writes_GiB 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 304
      242 Lifetime_Reads_GiB 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 228
      244 Average_Erase_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 2
      245 Max_Erase_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 10
      246 Total_Erase_Count 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 3827

      SMART Error Log not supported

      SMART Self-test Log not supported

      Selective Self-tests/Logging not supported






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