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Come Celebrate our 10 Year Anniversary!When trying to copy a virtual disk in VMware vSphere client, I get an errrorMonitoring VMware ESXi (free) vs. vSpherevirtualbox on linux nat configurationAccessing the virtual machine installed on ESXi server from a remote computer without the use of Vsphere clientESXi network setup for isolated internal virtual machinesvm copied by veeam but I can't see it on vmwarevSphere - Why upgrade VM Hardware Version?Why doesn't VSphere show VMWare Tools as installed?How to share a storage between multiple VMs using VMWare ESXi and VSphere?Creating a virtual switch between two VMs, without a physical uplink, in VMware ESXi/vSphere



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I am new to using ESXi and vSphere, I currently have ESXi 5 running with a win 2008 server VM on it. I am trying to set it up so that the VM can access the internet by setting up NAT. I cannot find the option in vSphere and all of the documentation I have found doesn't offer much help. I don't really understand the virtual switches and port groups and things like that.



I know in vmWare it was as simple as bridging the virtual adapter to the physical one.



Sorry if this is too in depth of a question.



EDIT: Adding more information.
I currently only have the one vm on the server. In the future I might be adding more to it and I would like all VM based traffic to look like its coming from the ESXi ip address (through NAT).










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  • Are you trying to put your VMware ESXi host actually onto the Internet unprotected? I would let the firewall do the NAT instead.

    – Mei
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:40











  • I am not too sure what you mean. I am trying to set it up so that the windows VM generates traffic that looks like it is coming from the ESXi's ip address.

    – amazinghorse24
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:44











  • If your ESXi server is protected from the Internet by a firewall, then you don't need to make the Windows VM act that way; VMware creates its own interfaces for each of the VMs separately. You don't need to NAT the way you are suggesting. However, if you are trying to put this host on the Internet without protection, then you are asking for trouble: you should put ESXi behind a firewall.

    – Mei
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:47






  • 2





    That's not how it works.

    – MDMarra
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:48






  • 1





    Currently, I don't have access to our IP address list and so I don't know which IP to assign to the VM's. I know the exact IP used for the server.

    – amazinghorse24
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:51

















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I am new to using ESXi and vSphere, I currently have ESXi 5 running with a win 2008 server VM on it. I am trying to set it up so that the VM can access the internet by setting up NAT. I cannot find the option in vSphere and all of the documentation I have found doesn't offer much help. I don't really understand the virtual switches and port groups and things like that.



I know in vmWare it was as simple as bridging the virtual adapter to the physical one.



Sorry if this is too in depth of a question.



EDIT: Adding more information.
I currently only have the one vm on the server. In the future I might be adding more to it and I would like all VM based traffic to look like its coming from the ESXi ip address (through NAT).










share|improve this question
























  • Are you trying to put your VMware ESXi host actually onto the Internet unprotected? I would let the firewall do the NAT instead.

    – Mei
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:40











  • I am not too sure what you mean. I am trying to set it up so that the windows VM generates traffic that looks like it is coming from the ESXi's ip address.

    – amazinghorse24
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:44











  • If your ESXi server is protected from the Internet by a firewall, then you don't need to make the Windows VM act that way; VMware creates its own interfaces for each of the VMs separately. You don't need to NAT the way you are suggesting. However, if you are trying to put this host on the Internet without protection, then you are asking for trouble: you should put ESXi behind a firewall.

    – Mei
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:47






  • 2





    That's not how it works.

    – MDMarra
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:48






  • 1





    Currently, I don't have access to our IP address list and so I don't know which IP to assign to the VM's. I know the exact IP used for the server.

    – amazinghorse24
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:51













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I am new to using ESXi and vSphere, I currently have ESXi 5 running with a win 2008 server VM on it. I am trying to set it up so that the VM can access the internet by setting up NAT. I cannot find the option in vSphere and all of the documentation I have found doesn't offer much help. I don't really understand the virtual switches and port groups and things like that.



I know in vmWare it was as simple as bridging the virtual adapter to the physical one.



Sorry if this is too in depth of a question.



EDIT: Adding more information.
I currently only have the one vm on the server. In the future I might be adding more to it and I would like all VM based traffic to look like its coming from the ESXi ip address (through NAT).










share|improve this question
















I am new to using ESXi and vSphere, I currently have ESXi 5 running with a win 2008 server VM on it. I am trying to set it up so that the VM can access the internet by setting up NAT. I cannot find the option in vSphere and all of the documentation I have found doesn't offer much help. I don't really understand the virtual switches and port groups and things like that.



I know in vmWare it was as simple as bridging the virtual adapter to the physical one.



Sorry if this is too in depth of a question.



EDIT: Adding more information.
I currently only have the one vm on the server. In the future I might be adding more to it and I would like all VM based traffic to look like its coming from the ESXi ip address (through NAT).







vmware-esxi nat






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  • Are you trying to put your VMware ESXi host actually onto the Internet unprotected? I would let the firewall do the NAT instead.

    – Mei
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:40











  • I am not too sure what you mean. I am trying to set it up so that the windows VM generates traffic that looks like it is coming from the ESXi's ip address.

    – amazinghorse24
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:44











  • If your ESXi server is protected from the Internet by a firewall, then you don't need to make the Windows VM act that way; VMware creates its own interfaces for each of the VMs separately. You don't need to NAT the way you are suggesting. However, if you are trying to put this host on the Internet without protection, then you are asking for trouble: you should put ESXi behind a firewall.

    – Mei
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:47






  • 2





    That's not how it works.

    – MDMarra
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:48






  • 1





    Currently, I don't have access to our IP address list and so I don't know which IP to assign to the VM's. I know the exact IP used for the server.

    – amazinghorse24
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:51

















  • Are you trying to put your VMware ESXi host actually onto the Internet unprotected? I would let the firewall do the NAT instead.

    – Mei
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:40











  • I am not too sure what you mean. I am trying to set it up so that the windows VM generates traffic that looks like it is coming from the ESXi's ip address.

    – amazinghorse24
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:44











  • If your ESXi server is protected from the Internet by a firewall, then you don't need to make the Windows VM act that way; VMware creates its own interfaces for each of the VMs separately. You don't need to NAT the way you are suggesting. However, if you are trying to put this host on the Internet without protection, then you are asking for trouble: you should put ESXi behind a firewall.

    – Mei
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:47






  • 2





    That's not how it works.

    – MDMarra
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:48






  • 1





    Currently, I don't have access to our IP address list and so I don't know which IP to assign to the VM's. I know the exact IP used for the server.

    – amazinghorse24
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:51
















Are you trying to put your VMware ESXi host actually onto the Internet unprotected? I would let the firewall do the NAT instead.

– Mei
Feb 16 '12 at 18:40





Are you trying to put your VMware ESXi host actually onto the Internet unprotected? I would let the firewall do the NAT instead.

– Mei
Feb 16 '12 at 18:40













I am not too sure what you mean. I am trying to set it up so that the windows VM generates traffic that looks like it is coming from the ESXi's ip address.

– amazinghorse24
Feb 16 '12 at 18:44





I am not too sure what you mean. I am trying to set it up so that the windows VM generates traffic that looks like it is coming from the ESXi's ip address.

– amazinghorse24
Feb 16 '12 at 18:44













If your ESXi server is protected from the Internet by a firewall, then you don't need to make the Windows VM act that way; VMware creates its own interfaces for each of the VMs separately. You don't need to NAT the way you are suggesting. However, if you are trying to put this host on the Internet without protection, then you are asking for trouble: you should put ESXi behind a firewall.

– Mei
Feb 16 '12 at 18:47





If your ESXi server is protected from the Internet by a firewall, then you don't need to make the Windows VM act that way; VMware creates its own interfaces for each of the VMs separately. You don't need to NAT the way you are suggesting. However, if you are trying to put this host on the Internet without protection, then you are asking for trouble: you should put ESXi behind a firewall.

– Mei
Feb 16 '12 at 18:47




2




2





That's not how it works.

– MDMarra
Feb 16 '12 at 18:48





That's not how it works.

– MDMarra
Feb 16 '12 at 18:48




1




1





Currently, I don't have access to our IP address list and so I don't know which IP to assign to the VM's. I know the exact IP used for the server.

– amazinghorse24
Feb 16 '12 at 18:51





Currently, I don't have access to our IP address list and so I don't know which IP to assign to the VM's. I know the exact IP used for the server.

– amazinghorse24
Feb 16 '12 at 18:51










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The IP of the management interface has nothing to do with the IPs of the VMs on it. The fact that, in your setup, the vmkernel port may also be on the same physical port as the vmnetwork doesn't mean anything. Basically, you can't do what you think you can do.






share|improve this answer























  • Thanks, I guess i'll just have to wait until I have our IP address list to figure out which ones aren't in use.

    – amazinghorse24
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:58


















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It is not possible to create in ESXi, one-click, an additional virtual network that has an already configured DHCP/NAT (to the best of my knowledge, verified with a friend of mine that works on ESX since 7 years).



I have my ESXi server into a private network where I have no control of DHCP/IP addresses (nor a list of them), this feature would be very useful to perform experiments with new VMs, but with ESXi you have to take the long route:



You have to build up one VM (Pfsese?) which performs the NAT/DHCP role for the new Virtual Network, yes you still need one IP for the NATer:-)



This is quite disappointing to me, because this is a very basic feature of Virtualbox and VMWare Workstation, yes, they have different targets.. and perhaps they think that you should not need such things in a production enviroment.






share|improve this answer

























  • The key here is the use of the word 'switch' - with ESXi the lines are very clearly drawn, you get a virtual switch, it deals with L2 and only L2, therefore it doesn't care whether you're using IP or any other L3 protocol. The networking in other products blur the lines between a switch and a router and allow their 'networking thing' to do both L2 and L3 functions. There's no reason to be disappointed, with ESXi they do a fantastic job of what they say they do, they just choose to keep their software's job very focussed as that's what their corporate customers (myself included) asked for.

    – Chopper3
    Apr 14 at 12:00











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The IP of the management interface has nothing to do with the IPs of the VMs on it. The fact that, in your setup, the vmkernel port may also be on the same physical port as the vmnetwork doesn't mean anything. Basically, you can't do what you think you can do.






share|improve this answer























  • Thanks, I guess i'll just have to wait until I have our IP address list to figure out which ones aren't in use.

    – amazinghorse24
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:58















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The IP of the management interface has nothing to do with the IPs of the VMs on it. The fact that, in your setup, the vmkernel port may also be on the same physical port as the vmnetwork doesn't mean anything. Basically, you can't do what you think you can do.






share|improve this answer























  • Thanks, I guess i'll just have to wait until I have our IP address list to figure out which ones aren't in use.

    – amazinghorse24
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:58













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The IP of the management interface has nothing to do with the IPs of the VMs on it. The fact that, in your setup, the vmkernel port may also be on the same physical port as the vmnetwork doesn't mean anything. Basically, you can't do what you think you can do.






share|improve this answer













The IP of the management interface has nothing to do with the IPs of the VMs on it. The fact that, in your setup, the vmkernel port may also be on the same physical port as the vmnetwork doesn't mean anything. Basically, you can't do what you think you can do.







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  • Thanks, I guess i'll just have to wait until I have our IP address list to figure out which ones aren't in use.

    – amazinghorse24
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:58

















  • Thanks, I guess i'll just have to wait until I have our IP address list to figure out which ones aren't in use.

    – amazinghorse24
    Feb 16 '12 at 18:58
















Thanks, I guess i'll just have to wait until I have our IP address list to figure out which ones aren't in use.

– amazinghorse24
Feb 16 '12 at 18:58





Thanks, I guess i'll just have to wait until I have our IP address list to figure out which ones aren't in use.

– amazinghorse24
Feb 16 '12 at 18:58













-3














It is not possible to create in ESXi, one-click, an additional virtual network that has an already configured DHCP/NAT (to the best of my knowledge, verified with a friend of mine that works on ESX since 7 years).



I have my ESXi server into a private network where I have no control of DHCP/IP addresses (nor a list of them), this feature would be very useful to perform experiments with new VMs, but with ESXi you have to take the long route:



You have to build up one VM (Pfsese?) which performs the NAT/DHCP role for the new Virtual Network, yes you still need one IP for the NATer:-)



This is quite disappointing to me, because this is a very basic feature of Virtualbox and VMWare Workstation, yes, they have different targets.. and perhaps they think that you should not need such things in a production enviroment.






share|improve this answer

























  • The key here is the use of the word 'switch' - with ESXi the lines are very clearly drawn, you get a virtual switch, it deals with L2 and only L2, therefore it doesn't care whether you're using IP or any other L3 protocol. The networking in other products blur the lines between a switch and a router and allow their 'networking thing' to do both L2 and L3 functions. There's no reason to be disappointed, with ESXi they do a fantastic job of what they say they do, they just choose to keep their software's job very focussed as that's what their corporate customers (myself included) asked for.

    – Chopper3
    Apr 14 at 12:00















-3














It is not possible to create in ESXi, one-click, an additional virtual network that has an already configured DHCP/NAT (to the best of my knowledge, verified with a friend of mine that works on ESX since 7 years).



I have my ESXi server into a private network where I have no control of DHCP/IP addresses (nor a list of them), this feature would be very useful to perform experiments with new VMs, but with ESXi you have to take the long route:



You have to build up one VM (Pfsese?) which performs the NAT/DHCP role for the new Virtual Network, yes you still need one IP for the NATer:-)



This is quite disappointing to me, because this is a very basic feature of Virtualbox and VMWare Workstation, yes, they have different targets.. and perhaps they think that you should not need such things in a production enviroment.






share|improve this answer

























  • The key here is the use of the word 'switch' - with ESXi the lines are very clearly drawn, you get a virtual switch, it deals with L2 and only L2, therefore it doesn't care whether you're using IP or any other L3 protocol. The networking in other products blur the lines between a switch and a router and allow their 'networking thing' to do both L2 and L3 functions. There's no reason to be disappointed, with ESXi they do a fantastic job of what they say they do, they just choose to keep their software's job very focussed as that's what their corporate customers (myself included) asked for.

    – Chopper3
    Apr 14 at 12:00













-3












-3








-3







It is not possible to create in ESXi, one-click, an additional virtual network that has an already configured DHCP/NAT (to the best of my knowledge, verified with a friend of mine that works on ESX since 7 years).



I have my ESXi server into a private network where I have no control of DHCP/IP addresses (nor a list of them), this feature would be very useful to perform experiments with new VMs, but with ESXi you have to take the long route:



You have to build up one VM (Pfsese?) which performs the NAT/DHCP role for the new Virtual Network, yes you still need one IP for the NATer:-)



This is quite disappointing to me, because this is a very basic feature of Virtualbox and VMWare Workstation, yes, they have different targets.. and perhaps they think that you should not need such things in a production enviroment.






share|improve this answer















It is not possible to create in ESXi, one-click, an additional virtual network that has an already configured DHCP/NAT (to the best of my knowledge, verified with a friend of mine that works on ESX since 7 years).



I have my ESXi server into a private network where I have no control of DHCP/IP addresses (nor a list of them), this feature would be very useful to perform experiments with new VMs, but with ESXi you have to take the long route:



You have to build up one VM (Pfsese?) which performs the NAT/DHCP role for the new Virtual Network, yes you still need one IP for the NATer:-)



This is quite disappointing to me, because this is a very basic feature of Virtualbox and VMWare Workstation, yes, they have different targets.. and perhaps they think that you should not need such things in a production enviroment.







share|improve this answer














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  • The key here is the use of the word 'switch' - with ESXi the lines are very clearly drawn, you get a virtual switch, it deals with L2 and only L2, therefore it doesn't care whether you're using IP or any other L3 protocol. The networking in other products blur the lines between a switch and a router and allow their 'networking thing' to do both L2 and L3 functions. There's no reason to be disappointed, with ESXi they do a fantastic job of what they say they do, they just choose to keep their software's job very focussed as that's what their corporate customers (myself included) asked for.

    – Chopper3
    Apr 14 at 12:00

















  • The key here is the use of the word 'switch' - with ESXi the lines are very clearly drawn, you get a virtual switch, it deals with L2 and only L2, therefore it doesn't care whether you're using IP or any other L3 protocol. The networking in other products blur the lines between a switch and a router and allow their 'networking thing' to do both L2 and L3 functions. There's no reason to be disappointed, with ESXi they do a fantastic job of what they say they do, they just choose to keep their software's job very focussed as that's what their corporate customers (myself included) asked for.

    – Chopper3
    Apr 14 at 12:00
















The key here is the use of the word 'switch' - with ESXi the lines are very clearly drawn, you get a virtual switch, it deals with L2 and only L2, therefore it doesn't care whether you're using IP or any other L3 protocol. The networking in other products blur the lines between a switch and a router and allow their 'networking thing' to do both L2 and L3 functions. There's no reason to be disappointed, with ESXi they do a fantastic job of what they say they do, they just choose to keep their software's job very focussed as that's what their corporate customers (myself included) asked for.

– Chopper3
Apr 14 at 12:00





The key here is the use of the word 'switch' - with ESXi the lines are very clearly drawn, you get a virtual switch, it deals with L2 and only L2, therefore it doesn't care whether you're using IP or any other L3 protocol. The networking in other products blur the lines between a switch and a router and allow their 'networking thing' to do both L2 and L3 functions. There's no reason to be disappointed, with ESXi they do a fantastic job of what they say they do, they just choose to keep their software's job very focussed as that's what their corporate customers (myself included) asked for.

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