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I have a virtual server running Ubuntu 18.04 from a well known hosting company. This morning our Fortigate Firewall logs shows that my Win10 computer transferred 3.5TB to and 6.5TB from my virtual server over 13 hours (over last night) via SSH.



There are a couple of issues with this; First we know the figures quoted by the Fortigate Firewall are not correct, because a) the connection speed isn't fast enough able to do this over that time period, perhaps a 10th of the required speed, and b) the VPS logs show that it received 35GB and sent 65GB... many times less than the Fortigate reports.
And secondly the only things that were open using SSH were Putty and WinSCP. Putty wasn't doing anything, and the bash history shows the only commands were related to starting and stopping Kestrel (dot net core server), it was doing nothing else. WinSCP wasn't doing anything either as far as I can tell. I'd moved a few folders around during the day.



Nothing came up with a virus scan on my local machine, there wasn't anything awry in the server logs, and the server has no third party packages other than the Microsoft .net core repos set up.



While the boss is OK that nothing sinister was going on I am not happy that something has ocurred that I can't even begin to answer.



I have a whole host of questions about this but right now I'll settle for:



  • What could have caused this?

  • Could it just have been an issue with the Fortigate as we know it's mis-reported the data transfer, or perhaps WinSCP in a loop?

  • Has anyone ever had this happen to them at all?

Any clues gratefully received.










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  • 3





    Check with your VPS provider and see if they can verify the amount of traffic from your IP address as a sanity check.

    – Tim Brigham
    Jun 3 at 13:18






  • 2





    If you don't have authority to investigate the firewall, then there's very little more you can do at this point, but pass it on to whoever does have that authority.

    – Michael Hampton
    Jun 3 at 14:52






  • 1





    @CodePoint One of my (very) wild guesses was that something was sending some data that compressed very well, and the firewall reported the size before compression. Now, the numbers are too perfect for that and also it would probably have to be your firewall sending the data (unless it's set up to MITM SSH?), but I'm writing it just in case..

    – Tomasz Zieliński
    Jun 3 at 15:37






  • 1





    @CodePoint A quick search shows that Fortinet can do that, but that's beyond my expertise, so to speak. But even in case even if it can't MITM SSH (or is not configured to do so) it can send a lot of data to your VPS if only there's a bug or misconfiguration (and things happen..). But I admit it's just a total speculation on my part, and as Michael Hampton wrote above someone needs to investigate the firewall to say anything for sure..

    – Tomasz Zieliński
    Jun 3 at 16:11






  • 1





    @TomaszZieliński Thank you for your input. At least I've got some where to start looking now.

    – CodePoint
    Jun 3 at 16:13

















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I have a virtual server running Ubuntu 18.04 from a well known hosting company. This morning our Fortigate Firewall logs shows that my Win10 computer transferred 3.5TB to and 6.5TB from my virtual server over 13 hours (over last night) via SSH.



There are a couple of issues with this; First we know the figures quoted by the Fortigate Firewall are not correct, because a) the connection speed isn't fast enough able to do this over that time period, perhaps a 10th of the required speed, and b) the VPS logs show that it received 35GB and sent 65GB... many times less than the Fortigate reports.
And secondly the only things that were open using SSH were Putty and WinSCP. Putty wasn't doing anything, and the bash history shows the only commands were related to starting and stopping Kestrel (dot net core server), it was doing nothing else. WinSCP wasn't doing anything either as far as I can tell. I'd moved a few folders around during the day.



Nothing came up with a virus scan on my local machine, there wasn't anything awry in the server logs, and the server has no third party packages other than the Microsoft .net core repos set up.



While the boss is OK that nothing sinister was going on I am not happy that something has ocurred that I can't even begin to answer.



I have a whole host of questions about this but right now I'll settle for:



  • What could have caused this?

  • Could it just have been an issue with the Fortigate as we know it's mis-reported the data transfer, or perhaps WinSCP in a loop?

  • Has anyone ever had this happen to them at all?

Any clues gratefully received.










share|improve this question



















  • 3





    Check with your VPS provider and see if they can verify the amount of traffic from your IP address as a sanity check.

    – Tim Brigham
    Jun 3 at 13:18






  • 2





    If you don't have authority to investigate the firewall, then there's very little more you can do at this point, but pass it on to whoever does have that authority.

    – Michael Hampton
    Jun 3 at 14:52






  • 1





    @CodePoint One of my (very) wild guesses was that something was sending some data that compressed very well, and the firewall reported the size before compression. Now, the numbers are too perfect for that and also it would probably have to be your firewall sending the data (unless it's set up to MITM SSH?), but I'm writing it just in case..

    – Tomasz Zieliński
    Jun 3 at 15:37






  • 1





    @CodePoint A quick search shows that Fortinet can do that, but that's beyond my expertise, so to speak. But even in case even if it can't MITM SSH (or is not configured to do so) it can send a lot of data to your VPS if only there's a bug or misconfiguration (and things happen..). But I admit it's just a total speculation on my part, and as Michael Hampton wrote above someone needs to investigate the firewall to say anything for sure..

    – Tomasz Zieliński
    Jun 3 at 16:11






  • 1





    @TomaszZieliński Thank you for your input. At least I've got some where to start looking now.

    – CodePoint
    Jun 3 at 16:13













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1






I have a virtual server running Ubuntu 18.04 from a well known hosting company. This morning our Fortigate Firewall logs shows that my Win10 computer transferred 3.5TB to and 6.5TB from my virtual server over 13 hours (over last night) via SSH.



There are a couple of issues with this; First we know the figures quoted by the Fortigate Firewall are not correct, because a) the connection speed isn't fast enough able to do this over that time period, perhaps a 10th of the required speed, and b) the VPS logs show that it received 35GB and sent 65GB... many times less than the Fortigate reports.
And secondly the only things that were open using SSH were Putty and WinSCP. Putty wasn't doing anything, and the bash history shows the only commands were related to starting and stopping Kestrel (dot net core server), it was doing nothing else. WinSCP wasn't doing anything either as far as I can tell. I'd moved a few folders around during the day.



Nothing came up with a virus scan on my local machine, there wasn't anything awry in the server logs, and the server has no third party packages other than the Microsoft .net core repos set up.



While the boss is OK that nothing sinister was going on I am not happy that something has ocurred that I can't even begin to answer.



I have a whole host of questions about this but right now I'll settle for:



  • What could have caused this?

  • Could it just have been an issue with the Fortigate as we know it's mis-reported the data transfer, or perhaps WinSCP in a loop?

  • Has anyone ever had this happen to them at all?

Any clues gratefully received.










share|improve this question
















I have a virtual server running Ubuntu 18.04 from a well known hosting company. This morning our Fortigate Firewall logs shows that my Win10 computer transferred 3.5TB to and 6.5TB from my virtual server over 13 hours (over last night) via SSH.



There are a couple of issues with this; First we know the figures quoted by the Fortigate Firewall are not correct, because a) the connection speed isn't fast enough able to do this over that time period, perhaps a 10th of the required speed, and b) the VPS logs show that it received 35GB and sent 65GB... many times less than the Fortigate reports.
And secondly the only things that were open using SSH were Putty and WinSCP. Putty wasn't doing anything, and the bash history shows the only commands were related to starting and stopping Kestrel (dot net core server), it was doing nothing else. WinSCP wasn't doing anything either as far as I can tell. I'd moved a few folders around during the day.



Nothing came up with a virus scan on my local machine, there wasn't anything awry in the server logs, and the server has no third party packages other than the Microsoft .net core repos set up.



While the boss is OK that nothing sinister was going on I am not happy that something has ocurred that I can't even begin to answer.



I have a whole host of questions about this but right now I'll settle for:



  • What could have caused this?

  • Could it just have been an issue with the Fortigate as we know it's mis-reported the data transfer, or perhaps WinSCP in a loop?

  • Has anyone ever had this happen to them at all?

Any clues gratefully received.







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  • 3





    Check with your VPS provider and see if they can verify the amount of traffic from your IP address as a sanity check.

    – Tim Brigham
    Jun 3 at 13:18






  • 2





    If you don't have authority to investigate the firewall, then there's very little more you can do at this point, but pass it on to whoever does have that authority.

    – Michael Hampton
    Jun 3 at 14:52






  • 1





    @CodePoint One of my (very) wild guesses was that something was sending some data that compressed very well, and the firewall reported the size before compression. Now, the numbers are too perfect for that and also it would probably have to be your firewall sending the data (unless it's set up to MITM SSH?), but I'm writing it just in case..

    – Tomasz Zieliński
    Jun 3 at 15:37






  • 1





    @CodePoint A quick search shows that Fortinet can do that, but that's beyond my expertise, so to speak. But even in case even if it can't MITM SSH (or is not configured to do so) it can send a lot of data to your VPS if only there's a bug or misconfiguration (and things happen..). But I admit it's just a total speculation on my part, and as Michael Hampton wrote above someone needs to investigate the firewall to say anything for sure..

    – Tomasz Zieliński
    Jun 3 at 16:11






  • 1





    @TomaszZieliński Thank you for your input. At least I've got some where to start looking now.

    – CodePoint
    Jun 3 at 16:13












  • 3





    Check with your VPS provider and see if they can verify the amount of traffic from your IP address as a sanity check.

    – Tim Brigham
    Jun 3 at 13:18






  • 2





    If you don't have authority to investigate the firewall, then there's very little more you can do at this point, but pass it on to whoever does have that authority.

    – Michael Hampton
    Jun 3 at 14:52






  • 1





    @CodePoint One of my (very) wild guesses was that something was sending some data that compressed very well, and the firewall reported the size before compression. Now, the numbers are too perfect for that and also it would probably have to be your firewall sending the data (unless it's set up to MITM SSH?), but I'm writing it just in case..

    – Tomasz Zieliński
    Jun 3 at 15:37






  • 1





    @CodePoint A quick search shows that Fortinet can do that, but that's beyond my expertise, so to speak. But even in case even if it can't MITM SSH (or is not configured to do so) it can send a lot of data to your VPS if only there's a bug or misconfiguration (and things happen..). But I admit it's just a total speculation on my part, and as Michael Hampton wrote above someone needs to investigate the firewall to say anything for sure..

    – Tomasz Zieliński
    Jun 3 at 16:11






  • 1





    @TomaszZieliński Thank you for your input. At least I've got some where to start looking now.

    – CodePoint
    Jun 3 at 16:13







3




3





Check with your VPS provider and see if they can verify the amount of traffic from your IP address as a sanity check.

– Tim Brigham
Jun 3 at 13:18





Check with your VPS provider and see if they can verify the amount of traffic from your IP address as a sanity check.

– Tim Brigham
Jun 3 at 13:18




2




2





If you don't have authority to investigate the firewall, then there's very little more you can do at this point, but pass it on to whoever does have that authority.

– Michael Hampton
Jun 3 at 14:52





If you don't have authority to investigate the firewall, then there's very little more you can do at this point, but pass it on to whoever does have that authority.

– Michael Hampton
Jun 3 at 14:52




1




1





@CodePoint One of my (very) wild guesses was that something was sending some data that compressed very well, and the firewall reported the size before compression. Now, the numbers are too perfect for that and also it would probably have to be your firewall sending the data (unless it's set up to MITM SSH?), but I'm writing it just in case..

– Tomasz Zieliński
Jun 3 at 15:37





@CodePoint One of my (very) wild guesses was that something was sending some data that compressed very well, and the firewall reported the size before compression. Now, the numbers are too perfect for that and also it would probably have to be your firewall sending the data (unless it's set up to MITM SSH?), but I'm writing it just in case..

– Tomasz Zieliński
Jun 3 at 15:37




1




1





@CodePoint A quick search shows that Fortinet can do that, but that's beyond my expertise, so to speak. But even in case even if it can't MITM SSH (or is not configured to do so) it can send a lot of data to your VPS if only there's a bug or misconfiguration (and things happen..). But I admit it's just a total speculation on my part, and as Michael Hampton wrote above someone needs to investigate the firewall to say anything for sure..

– Tomasz Zieliński
Jun 3 at 16:11





@CodePoint A quick search shows that Fortinet can do that, but that's beyond my expertise, so to speak. But even in case even if it can't MITM SSH (or is not configured to do so) it can send a lot of data to your VPS if only there's a bug or misconfiguration (and things happen..). But I admit it's just a total speculation on my part, and as Michael Hampton wrote above someone needs to investigate the firewall to say anything for sure..

– Tomasz Zieliński
Jun 3 at 16:11




1




1





@TomaszZieliński Thank you for your input. At least I've got some where to start looking now.

– CodePoint
Jun 3 at 16:13





@TomaszZieliński Thank you for your input. At least I've got some where to start looking now.

– CodePoint
Jun 3 at 16:13










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