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So I have to integrate $$fracsin^n xsin^n x + cos^n x$$ and am coding this in Mathematica with
(((Sin^n)[x])/(((Sin^n)[x]) + ((Cos^n)[x])))
with the bounds $0$ and $pi/2,$ where $n$ takes on various integer values.
I programmed the problem so that $n=1$ then $n=2$, etc...but every time I try to get the output, I only get back the integration symbol. For example, if I program $n=2$ and then do the integration command- the output is
(((Sin^2)[x])/(((Sin^2)[x]) + ((Cos^2)[x]))),
but does not solve it. Anyone know how to help or fix this??
Update: Even with the syntax fixed, Mathematica does not solve it, with or without assumptions:
Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n), x, 0, Pi/2,
Assumptions -> n > 0 && n [Element] Integers]
calculus-and-analysis
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So I have to integrate $$fracsin^n xsin^n x + cos^n x$$ and am coding this in Mathematica with
(((Sin^n)[x])/(((Sin^n)[x]) + ((Cos^n)[x])))
with the bounds $0$ and $pi/2,$ where $n$ takes on various integer values.
I programmed the problem so that $n=1$ then $n=2$, etc...but every time I try to get the output, I only get back the integration symbol. For example, if I program $n=2$ and then do the integration command- the output is
(((Sin^2)[x])/(((Sin^2)[x]) + ((Cos^2)[x]))),
but does not solve it. Anyone know how to help or fix this??
Update: Even with the syntax fixed, Mathematica does not solve it, with or without assumptions:
Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n), x, 0, Pi/2,
Assumptions -> n > 0 && n [Element] Integers]
calculus-and-analysis
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1
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Hello! It seems that you haven't included any code. Can you please include that here in the post? Based on your textual description my guess is that you are using(Sin^2)[x]
when that syntax is incorrect, you should instead write it asSin[x]^2
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– enano9314
Apr 17 at 20:56
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Related: math.stackexchange.com/questions/82489/…
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– Michael E2
Apr 18 at 0:16
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Was it closed simply because of a syntax error by the OP? The integral with fixed syntax can be evaluated at specific values forn
, as shown in two of the answers, but it cannot be evaluated with a unspecified parametern
. (Of course we often get this kind of question, which reveals limitiations ofIntegrate
.)
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– Michael E2
Apr 18 at 13:47
add a comment |
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So I have to integrate $$fracsin^n xsin^n x + cos^n x$$ and am coding this in Mathematica with
(((Sin^n)[x])/(((Sin^n)[x]) + ((Cos^n)[x])))
with the bounds $0$ and $pi/2,$ where $n$ takes on various integer values.
I programmed the problem so that $n=1$ then $n=2$, etc...but every time I try to get the output, I only get back the integration symbol. For example, if I program $n=2$ and then do the integration command- the output is
(((Sin^2)[x])/(((Sin^2)[x]) + ((Cos^2)[x]))),
but does not solve it. Anyone know how to help or fix this??
Update: Even with the syntax fixed, Mathematica does not solve it, with or without assumptions:
Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n), x, 0, Pi/2,
Assumptions -> n > 0 && n [Element] Integers]
calculus-and-analysis
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So I have to integrate $$fracsin^n xsin^n x + cos^n x$$ and am coding this in Mathematica with
(((Sin^n)[x])/(((Sin^n)[x]) + ((Cos^n)[x])))
with the bounds $0$ and $pi/2,$ where $n$ takes on various integer values.
I programmed the problem so that $n=1$ then $n=2$, etc...but every time I try to get the output, I only get back the integration symbol. For example, if I program $n=2$ and then do the integration command- the output is
(((Sin^2)[x])/(((Sin^2)[x]) + ((Cos^2)[x]))),
but does not solve it. Anyone know how to help or fix this??
Update: Even with the syntax fixed, Mathematica does not solve it, with or without assumptions:
Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n), x, 0, Pi/2,
Assumptions -> n > 0 && n [Element] Integers]
calculus-and-analysis
calculus-and-analysis
edited Apr 21 at 16:14
Michael E2
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151k12203483
asked Apr 17 at 20:43
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Hello! It seems that you haven't included any code. Can you please include that here in the post? Based on your textual description my guess is that you are using(Sin^2)[x]
when that syntax is incorrect, you should instead write it asSin[x]^2
$endgroup$
– enano9314
Apr 17 at 20:56
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Related: math.stackexchange.com/questions/82489/…
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– Michael E2
Apr 18 at 0:16
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Was it closed simply because of a syntax error by the OP? The integral with fixed syntax can be evaluated at specific values forn
, as shown in two of the answers, but it cannot be evaluated with a unspecified parametern
. (Of course we often get this kind of question, which reveals limitiations ofIntegrate
.)
$endgroup$
– Michael E2
Apr 18 at 13:47
add a comment |
1
$begingroup$
Hello! It seems that you haven't included any code. Can you please include that here in the post? Based on your textual description my guess is that you are using(Sin^2)[x]
when that syntax is incorrect, you should instead write it asSin[x]^2
$endgroup$
– enano9314
Apr 17 at 20:56
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Related: math.stackexchange.com/questions/82489/…
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– Michael E2
Apr 18 at 0:16
$begingroup$
Was it closed simply because of a syntax error by the OP? The integral with fixed syntax can be evaluated at specific values forn
, as shown in two of the answers, but it cannot be evaluated with a unspecified parametern
. (Of course we often get this kind of question, which reveals limitiations ofIntegrate
.)
$endgroup$
– Michael E2
Apr 18 at 13:47
1
1
$begingroup$
Hello! It seems that you haven't included any code. Can you please include that here in the post? Based on your textual description my guess is that you are using
(Sin^2)[x]
when that syntax is incorrect, you should instead write it as Sin[x]^2
$endgroup$
– enano9314
Apr 17 at 20:56
$begingroup$
Hello! It seems that you haven't included any code. Can you please include that here in the post? Based on your textual description my guess is that you are using
(Sin^2)[x]
when that syntax is incorrect, you should instead write it as Sin[x]^2
$endgroup$
– enano9314
Apr 17 at 20:56
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Related: math.stackexchange.com/questions/82489/…
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– Michael E2
Apr 18 at 0:16
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Related: math.stackexchange.com/questions/82489/…
$endgroup$
– Michael E2
Apr 18 at 0:16
$begingroup$
Was it closed simply because of a syntax error by the OP? The integral with fixed syntax can be evaluated at specific values for
n
, as shown in two of the answers, but it cannot be evaluated with a unspecified parameter n
. (Of course we often get this kind of question, which reveals limitiations of Integrate
.)$endgroup$
– Michael E2
Apr 18 at 13:47
$begingroup$
Was it closed simply because of a syntax error by the OP? The integral with fixed syntax can be evaluated at specific values for
n
, as shown in two of the answers, but it cannot be evaluated with a unspecified parameter n
. (Of course we often get this kind of question, which reveals limitiations of Integrate
.)$endgroup$
– Michael E2
Apr 18 at 13:47
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This works for me:
Table[Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n+Cos[x]^n),x,0,Pi/2],n,1,5]
And it gives the output Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4.
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1
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Recommend that you add aPlot
to make it easier to understand why the result is a constant.
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– Bob Hanlon
Apr 17 at 21:11
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Good suggestion. Editing.
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– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:38
add a comment |
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Perhaps you're writing your function in the wrong format Emma. The following works fine:
n = 2;
Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n),x, 0, π/2]
π/4
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I believe you have the parentheses in the wrong place relative to the original question. Right idea for the solution, though.
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– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:05
1
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Yes, just realized that, thanks for pointing it out.
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– amator2357
Apr 17 at 21:09
add a comment |
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A common trick (see this Math.SE post):
$$int_a^b f(x) ; dx
buildrel x = a+b-u over = -int_b^a f(a + b - u) ; du
= int_a^b f(a + b - x) ; dx, ,$$
so therefore
$$int_a^b f(x) ; dx = int_b^a f(x) + f(a + b - x) over 2 ; dx, .$$
ClearAll[symmetrizeIntegrate];
SetAttributes[symmetrizeIntegrate, HoldAll];
symmetrizeIntegrate[Integrate[f_, x_, a_, b_, opts___]] :=
Integrate[(f + (f /. x -> a + b - x))/2, x, a, b, opts]
symmetrizeIntegrate[Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n), x, 0, [Pi]/2]]
(* π/4 *)
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This works for me:
Table[Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n+Cos[x]^n),x,0,Pi/2],n,1,5]
And it gives the output Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4.
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1
$begingroup$
Recommend that you add aPlot
to make it easier to understand why the result is a constant.
$endgroup$
– Bob Hanlon
Apr 17 at 21:11
$begingroup$
Good suggestion. Editing.
$endgroup$
– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:38
add a comment |
$begingroup$
This works for me:
Table[Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n+Cos[x]^n),x,0,Pi/2],n,1,5]
And it gives the output Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Recommend that you add aPlot
to make it easier to understand why the result is a constant.
$endgroup$
– Bob Hanlon
Apr 17 at 21:11
$begingroup$
Good suggestion. Editing.
$endgroup$
– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:38
add a comment |
$begingroup$
This works for me:
Table[Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n+Cos[x]^n),x,0,Pi/2],n,1,5]
And it gives the output Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4.
$endgroup$
This works for me:
Table[Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n+Cos[x]^n),x,0,Pi/2],n,1,5]
And it gives the output Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4,Pi/4.
edited Apr 17 at 21:40
answered Apr 17 at 21:03
Kevin AusmanKevin Ausman
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1
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Recommend that you add aPlot
to make it easier to understand why the result is a constant.
$endgroup$
– Bob Hanlon
Apr 17 at 21:11
$begingroup$
Good suggestion. Editing.
$endgroup$
– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:38
add a comment |
1
$begingroup$
Recommend that you add aPlot
to make it easier to understand why the result is a constant.
$endgroup$
– Bob Hanlon
Apr 17 at 21:11
$begingroup$
Good suggestion. Editing.
$endgroup$
– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:38
1
1
$begingroup$
Recommend that you add a
Plot
to make it easier to understand why the result is a constant.$endgroup$
– Bob Hanlon
Apr 17 at 21:11
$begingroup$
Recommend that you add a
Plot
to make it easier to understand why the result is a constant.$endgroup$
– Bob Hanlon
Apr 17 at 21:11
$begingroup$
Good suggestion. Editing.
$endgroup$
– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:38
$begingroup$
Good suggestion. Editing.
$endgroup$
– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:38
add a comment |
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Perhaps you're writing your function in the wrong format Emma. The following works fine:
n = 2;
Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n),x, 0, π/2]
π/4
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
I believe you have the parentheses in the wrong place relative to the original question. Right idea for the solution, though.
$endgroup$
– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:05
1
$begingroup$
Yes, just realized that, thanks for pointing it out.
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– amator2357
Apr 17 at 21:09
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Perhaps you're writing your function in the wrong format Emma. The following works fine:
n = 2;
Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n),x, 0, π/2]
π/4
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
I believe you have the parentheses in the wrong place relative to the original question. Right idea for the solution, though.
$endgroup$
– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:05
1
$begingroup$
Yes, just realized that, thanks for pointing it out.
$endgroup$
– amator2357
Apr 17 at 21:09
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Perhaps you're writing your function in the wrong format Emma. The following works fine:
n = 2;
Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n),x, 0, π/2]
π/4
$endgroup$
Perhaps you're writing your function in the wrong format Emma. The following works fine:
n = 2;
Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n),x, 0, π/2]
π/4
edited Apr 17 at 22:26
m_goldberg
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89.1k873200
answered Apr 17 at 20:57
amator2357amator2357
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4488
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I believe you have the parentheses in the wrong place relative to the original question. Right idea for the solution, though.
$endgroup$
– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:05
1
$begingroup$
Yes, just realized that, thanks for pointing it out.
$endgroup$
– amator2357
Apr 17 at 21:09
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I believe you have the parentheses in the wrong place relative to the original question. Right idea for the solution, though.
$endgroup$
– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:05
1
$begingroup$
Yes, just realized that, thanks for pointing it out.
$endgroup$
– amator2357
Apr 17 at 21:09
$begingroup$
I believe you have the parentheses in the wrong place relative to the original question. Right idea for the solution, though.
$endgroup$
– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:05
$begingroup$
I believe you have the parentheses in the wrong place relative to the original question. Right idea for the solution, though.
$endgroup$
– Kevin Ausman
Apr 17 at 21:05
1
1
$begingroup$
Yes, just realized that, thanks for pointing it out.
$endgroup$
– amator2357
Apr 17 at 21:09
$begingroup$
Yes, just realized that, thanks for pointing it out.
$endgroup$
– amator2357
Apr 17 at 21:09
add a comment |
$begingroup$
A common trick (see this Math.SE post):
$$int_a^b f(x) ; dx
buildrel x = a+b-u over = -int_b^a f(a + b - u) ; du
= int_a^b f(a + b - x) ; dx, ,$$
so therefore
$$int_a^b f(x) ; dx = int_b^a f(x) + f(a + b - x) over 2 ; dx, .$$
ClearAll[symmetrizeIntegrate];
SetAttributes[symmetrizeIntegrate, HoldAll];
symmetrizeIntegrate[Integrate[f_, x_, a_, b_, opts___]] :=
Integrate[(f + (f /. x -> a + b - x))/2, x, a, b, opts]
symmetrizeIntegrate[Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n), x, 0, [Pi]/2]]
(* π/4 *)
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
A common trick (see this Math.SE post):
$$int_a^b f(x) ; dx
buildrel x = a+b-u over = -int_b^a f(a + b - u) ; du
= int_a^b f(a + b - x) ; dx, ,$$
so therefore
$$int_a^b f(x) ; dx = int_b^a f(x) + f(a + b - x) over 2 ; dx, .$$
ClearAll[symmetrizeIntegrate];
SetAttributes[symmetrizeIntegrate, HoldAll];
symmetrizeIntegrate[Integrate[f_, x_, a_, b_, opts___]] :=
Integrate[(f + (f /. x -> a + b - x))/2, x, a, b, opts]
symmetrizeIntegrate[Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n), x, 0, [Pi]/2]]
(* π/4 *)
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
A common trick (see this Math.SE post):
$$int_a^b f(x) ; dx
buildrel x = a+b-u over = -int_b^a f(a + b - u) ; du
= int_a^b f(a + b - x) ; dx, ,$$
so therefore
$$int_a^b f(x) ; dx = int_b^a f(x) + f(a + b - x) over 2 ; dx, .$$
ClearAll[symmetrizeIntegrate];
SetAttributes[symmetrizeIntegrate, HoldAll];
symmetrizeIntegrate[Integrate[f_, x_, a_, b_, opts___]] :=
Integrate[(f + (f /. x -> a + b - x))/2, x, a, b, opts]
symmetrizeIntegrate[Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n), x, 0, [Pi]/2]]
(* π/4 *)
$endgroup$
A common trick (see this Math.SE post):
$$int_a^b f(x) ; dx
buildrel x = a+b-u over = -int_b^a f(a + b - u) ; du
= int_a^b f(a + b - x) ; dx, ,$$
so therefore
$$int_a^b f(x) ; dx = int_b^a f(x) + f(a + b - x) over 2 ; dx, .$$
ClearAll[symmetrizeIntegrate];
SetAttributes[symmetrizeIntegrate, HoldAll];
symmetrizeIntegrate[Integrate[f_, x_, a_, b_, opts___]] :=
Integrate[(f + (f /. x -> a + b - x))/2, x, a, b, opts]
symmetrizeIntegrate[Integrate[Sin[x]^n/(Sin[x]^n + Cos[x]^n), x, 0, [Pi]/2]]
(* π/4 *)
edited Apr 18 at 13:38
answered Apr 18 at 0:26
Michael E2Michael E2
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Hello! It seems that you haven't included any code. Can you please include that here in the post? Based on your textual description my guess is that you are using
(Sin^2)[x]
when that syntax is incorrect, you should instead write it asSin[x]^2
$endgroup$
– enano9314
Apr 17 at 20:56
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Related: math.stackexchange.com/questions/82489/…
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– Michael E2
Apr 18 at 0:16
$begingroup$
Was it closed simply because of a syntax error by the OP? The integral with fixed syntax can be evaluated at specific values for
n
, as shown in two of the answers, but it cannot be evaluated with a unspecified parametern
. (Of course we often get this kind of question, which reveals limitiations ofIntegrate
.)$endgroup$
– Michael E2
Apr 18 at 13:47