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LM317 - Calculate dissipation due to voltage drop



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If I use a linear voltage regulator as LM317:



  • Input voltage = 24 V

  • Output voltage = 5 V (so a voltage drop of 19 V)

  • Mean load = 480 mA (peak load = 700 mA)

From the datasheet, I read that maximum operating temperature = 125°C, junction = 150°C



How I can calculate if this component is thermally suitable, instead of a switching regulator?










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    Even if it's "thermally suitable" you're still wasting almost four times as much power as you're actually using. I'd use a switcher unless you have an overwhelming reason not to.
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    – Finbarr
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    @Finbarr "for times as much power" is not really relevant, it's the power you lose that matters. If the OP had a load consuming 4.8mA, then a linear regulator could have been absolutely the way to go.
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    Apr 8 at 13:56

















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$begingroup$


If I use a linear voltage regulator as LM317:



  • Input voltage = 24 V

  • Output voltage = 5 V (so a voltage drop of 19 V)

  • Mean load = 480 mA (peak load = 700 mA)

From the datasheet, I read that maximum operating temperature = 125°C, junction = 150°C



How I can calculate if this component is thermally suitable, instead of a switching regulator?










share|improve this question











$endgroup$







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Even if it's "thermally suitable" you're still wasting almost four times as much power as you're actually using. I'd use a switcher unless you have an overwhelming reason not to.
    $endgroup$
    – Finbarr
    Apr 8 at 8:36











  • $begingroup$
    @Finbarr "for times as much power" is not really relevant, it's the power you lose that matters. If the OP had a load consuming 4.8mA, then a linear regulator could have been absolutely the way to go.
    $endgroup$
    – Dmitry Grigoryev
    Apr 8 at 13:56













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If I use a linear voltage regulator as LM317:



  • Input voltage = 24 V

  • Output voltage = 5 V (so a voltage drop of 19 V)

  • Mean load = 480 mA (peak load = 700 mA)

From the datasheet, I read that maximum operating temperature = 125°C, junction = 150°C



How I can calculate if this component is thermally suitable, instead of a switching regulator?










share|improve this question











$endgroup$




If I use a linear voltage regulator as LM317:



  • Input voltage = 24 V

  • Output voltage = 5 V (so a voltage drop of 19 V)

  • Mean load = 480 mA (peak load = 700 mA)

From the datasheet, I read that maximum operating temperature = 125°C, junction = 150°C



How I can calculate if this component is thermally suitable, instead of a switching regulator?







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    $begingroup$
    Even if it's "thermally suitable" you're still wasting almost four times as much power as you're actually using. I'd use a switcher unless you have an overwhelming reason not to.
    $endgroup$
    – Finbarr
    Apr 8 at 8:36











  • $begingroup$
    @Finbarr "for times as much power" is not really relevant, it's the power you lose that matters. If the OP had a load consuming 4.8mA, then a linear regulator could have been absolutely the way to go.
    $endgroup$
    – Dmitry Grigoryev
    Apr 8 at 13:56












  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Even if it's "thermally suitable" you're still wasting almost four times as much power as you're actually using. I'd use a switcher unless you have an overwhelming reason not to.
    $endgroup$
    – Finbarr
    Apr 8 at 8:36











  • $begingroup$
    @Finbarr "for times as much power" is not really relevant, it's the power you lose that matters. If the OP had a load consuming 4.8mA, then a linear regulator could have been absolutely the way to go.
    $endgroup$
    – Dmitry Grigoryev
    Apr 8 at 13:56







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$begingroup$
Even if it's "thermally suitable" you're still wasting almost four times as much power as you're actually using. I'd use a switcher unless you have an overwhelming reason not to.
$endgroup$
– Finbarr
Apr 8 at 8:36





$begingroup$
Even if it's "thermally suitable" you're still wasting almost four times as much power as you're actually using. I'd use a switcher unless you have an overwhelming reason not to.
$endgroup$
– Finbarr
Apr 8 at 8:36













$begingroup$
@Finbarr "for times as much power" is not really relevant, it's the power you lose that matters. If the OP had a load consuming 4.8mA, then a linear regulator could have been absolutely the way to go.
$endgroup$
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Apr 8 at 13:56




$begingroup$
@Finbarr "for times as much power" is not really relevant, it's the power you lose that matters. If the OP had a load consuming 4.8mA, then a linear regulator could have been absolutely the way to go.
$endgroup$
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Apr 8 at 13:56










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What you need to know is the Junction-to-Ambient thermal resistance. There is a table for that on page 4 of the DATASHEET.



enter image description here



It has the values for each of the packages.



So, you know your voltage drop (19V), you know the required current (480-700mA). With this information, you can now find out your power dissipated (P=IV) and use this value to see how much your IC will heat up.



For an example, lets assume you have a TO-263 package. You calculate your power to be 3.68W. You see that the thermal resistance of this package is 38°C/W, thus the temperature will rise by 139.8°C. Now, while you may think that is fine, because it is under 150°C, you also need to add on the ambient temperature of the environment. Assuming this is 25°C, this will give you a total of 164.8°C. This now exceeds the maximum.



There are other factors involved, such as the current drawn by the device itself, not just your load, some environmental factors etc, but this is the easiest way to calculate what your temperature could be. You can use this method for any IC, not just the LM317, and you should find all the information here for you to calculate this yourself.



Further reading






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    I calculated the mean power in the regulator as 19V * 480mA as 9.12W with a temperature rise (TO220 package) of 214C.
    $endgroup$
    – Peter Smith
    Apr 8 at 8:33






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    @PeterSmith I deliberately missed out the exact calculations for OP so they can work it out for themselves
    $endgroup$
    – MCG
    Apr 8 at 8:35






  • 1




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    You are assuming no heat sink. With a heat sink and a series resistor to dump some of the power, it has a chance. Unfortunately, convection calculations for heat sinks are much more complicated than a conducted heat analysis. When I was working, I would let an ME do the thermal analysis. At home, with lot of experience by trial and error, I know about how big a heat sink needs to be.
    $endgroup$
    – Mattman944
    Apr 8 at 8:59






  • 3




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    @Mattman944 Correct. I am assuming no heat sink. Why would I include a heatsink when the question was not asking about that? The whole point of this answer was to make it simple and allow OP to calculate it themselves. They will realise they need a heatsink (actually easier to just use a switching IC) then they can ask another question about heatsinks
    $endgroup$
    – MCG
    Apr 8 at 10:26











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    1. Wot? No TO3 ? :-) 2. A heatsink is an integral part of such a design - whether it is the one on the device used (the metal and/or plastic overall packaging) alone or that plus any added one.3. A series resistor is also an extremely good idea idf they insist on doing this.
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    Apr 9 at 1:18


















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You need to know the package. Then calculate the temperature rises. Thermal calculations are analogous to electrical calculations, power dissipated is analogous to current. Thermal resistance is analogous to electrical resistance, temperature is analogous to voltage.



Rough calculations show that you will need a really good heat sink to keep the case temperature reasonable. Some of these parts have a large metal pad on the bottom designed to be soldered to a large copper pad on the PWB.



Another trick to use is to put a resistor in series with the input power to dump some of the power.



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    What you need to know is the Junction-to-Ambient thermal resistance. There is a table for that on page 4 of the DATASHEET.



    enter image description here



    It has the values for each of the packages.



    So, you know your voltage drop (19V), you know the required current (480-700mA). With this information, you can now find out your power dissipated (P=IV) and use this value to see how much your IC will heat up.



    For an example, lets assume you have a TO-263 package. You calculate your power to be 3.68W. You see that the thermal resistance of this package is 38°C/W, thus the temperature will rise by 139.8°C. Now, while you may think that is fine, because it is under 150°C, you also need to add on the ambient temperature of the environment. Assuming this is 25°C, this will give you a total of 164.8°C. This now exceeds the maximum.



    There are other factors involved, such as the current drawn by the device itself, not just your load, some environmental factors etc, but this is the easiest way to calculate what your temperature could be. You can use this method for any IC, not just the LM317, and you should find all the information here for you to calculate this yourself.



    Further reading






    share|improve this answer









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    • $begingroup$
      I calculated the mean power in the regulator as 19V * 480mA as 9.12W with a temperature rise (TO220 package) of 214C.
      $endgroup$
      – Peter Smith
      Apr 8 at 8:33






    • 4




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      @PeterSmith I deliberately missed out the exact calculations for OP so they can work it out for themselves
      $endgroup$
      – MCG
      Apr 8 at 8:35






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      You are assuming no heat sink. With a heat sink and a series resistor to dump some of the power, it has a chance. Unfortunately, convection calculations for heat sinks are much more complicated than a conducted heat analysis. When I was working, I would let an ME do the thermal analysis. At home, with lot of experience by trial and error, I know about how big a heat sink needs to be.
      $endgroup$
      – Mattman944
      Apr 8 at 8:59






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      @Mattman944 Correct. I am assuming no heat sink. Why would I include a heatsink when the question was not asking about that? The whole point of this answer was to make it simple and allow OP to calculate it themselves. They will realise they need a heatsink (actually easier to just use a switching IC) then they can ask another question about heatsinks
      $endgroup$
      – MCG
      Apr 8 at 10:26











    • $begingroup$
      1. Wot? No TO3 ? :-) 2. A heatsink is an integral part of such a design - whether it is the one on the device used (the metal and/or plastic overall packaging) alone or that plus any added one.3. A series resistor is also an extremely good idea idf they insist on doing this.
      $endgroup$
      – Russell McMahon
      Apr 9 at 1:18















    8












    $begingroup$

    What you need to know is the Junction-to-Ambient thermal resistance. There is a table for that on page 4 of the DATASHEET.



    enter image description here



    It has the values for each of the packages.



    So, you know your voltage drop (19V), you know the required current (480-700mA). With this information, you can now find out your power dissipated (P=IV) and use this value to see how much your IC will heat up.



    For an example, lets assume you have a TO-263 package. You calculate your power to be 3.68W. You see that the thermal resistance of this package is 38°C/W, thus the temperature will rise by 139.8°C. Now, while you may think that is fine, because it is under 150°C, you also need to add on the ambient temperature of the environment. Assuming this is 25°C, this will give you a total of 164.8°C. This now exceeds the maximum.



    There are other factors involved, such as the current drawn by the device itself, not just your load, some environmental factors etc, but this is the easiest way to calculate what your temperature could be. You can use this method for any IC, not just the LM317, and you should find all the information here for you to calculate this yourself.



    Further reading






    share|improve this answer









    $endgroup$












    • $begingroup$
      I calculated the mean power in the regulator as 19V * 480mA as 9.12W with a temperature rise (TO220 package) of 214C.
      $endgroup$
      – Peter Smith
      Apr 8 at 8:33






    • 4




      $begingroup$
      @PeterSmith I deliberately missed out the exact calculations for OP so they can work it out for themselves
      $endgroup$
      – MCG
      Apr 8 at 8:35






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      You are assuming no heat sink. With a heat sink and a series resistor to dump some of the power, it has a chance. Unfortunately, convection calculations for heat sinks are much more complicated than a conducted heat analysis. When I was working, I would let an ME do the thermal analysis. At home, with lot of experience by trial and error, I know about how big a heat sink needs to be.
      $endgroup$
      – Mattman944
      Apr 8 at 8:59






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      @Mattman944 Correct. I am assuming no heat sink. Why would I include a heatsink when the question was not asking about that? The whole point of this answer was to make it simple and allow OP to calculate it themselves. They will realise they need a heatsink (actually easier to just use a switching IC) then they can ask another question about heatsinks
      $endgroup$
      – MCG
      Apr 8 at 10:26











    • $begingroup$
      1. Wot? No TO3 ? :-) 2. A heatsink is an integral part of such a design - whether it is the one on the device used (the metal and/or plastic overall packaging) alone or that plus any added one.3. A series resistor is also an extremely good idea idf they insist on doing this.
      $endgroup$
      – Russell McMahon
      Apr 9 at 1:18













    8












    8








    8





    $begingroup$

    What you need to know is the Junction-to-Ambient thermal resistance. There is a table for that on page 4 of the DATASHEET.



    enter image description here



    It has the values for each of the packages.



    So, you know your voltage drop (19V), you know the required current (480-700mA). With this information, you can now find out your power dissipated (P=IV) and use this value to see how much your IC will heat up.



    For an example, lets assume you have a TO-263 package. You calculate your power to be 3.68W. You see that the thermal resistance of this package is 38°C/W, thus the temperature will rise by 139.8°C. Now, while you may think that is fine, because it is under 150°C, you also need to add on the ambient temperature of the environment. Assuming this is 25°C, this will give you a total of 164.8°C. This now exceeds the maximum.



    There are other factors involved, such as the current drawn by the device itself, not just your load, some environmental factors etc, but this is the easiest way to calculate what your temperature could be. You can use this method for any IC, not just the LM317, and you should find all the information here for you to calculate this yourself.



    Further reading






    share|improve this answer









    $endgroup$



    What you need to know is the Junction-to-Ambient thermal resistance. There is a table for that on page 4 of the DATASHEET.



    enter image description here



    It has the values for each of the packages.



    So, you know your voltage drop (19V), you know the required current (480-700mA). With this information, you can now find out your power dissipated (P=IV) and use this value to see how much your IC will heat up.



    For an example, lets assume you have a TO-263 package. You calculate your power to be 3.68W. You see that the thermal resistance of this package is 38°C/W, thus the temperature will rise by 139.8°C. Now, while you may think that is fine, because it is under 150°C, you also need to add on the ambient temperature of the environment. Assuming this is 25°C, this will give you a total of 164.8°C. This now exceeds the maximum.



    There are other factors involved, such as the current drawn by the device itself, not just your load, some environmental factors etc, but this is the easiest way to calculate what your temperature could be. You can use this method for any IC, not just the LM317, and you should find all the information here for you to calculate this yourself.



    Further reading







    share|improve this answer












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    • $begingroup$
      I calculated the mean power in the regulator as 19V * 480mA as 9.12W with a temperature rise (TO220 package) of 214C.
      $endgroup$
      – Peter Smith
      Apr 8 at 8:33






    • 4




      $begingroup$
      @PeterSmith I deliberately missed out the exact calculations for OP so they can work it out for themselves
      $endgroup$
      – MCG
      Apr 8 at 8:35






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      You are assuming no heat sink. With a heat sink and a series resistor to dump some of the power, it has a chance. Unfortunately, convection calculations for heat sinks are much more complicated than a conducted heat analysis. When I was working, I would let an ME do the thermal analysis. At home, with lot of experience by trial and error, I know about how big a heat sink needs to be.
      $endgroup$
      – Mattman944
      Apr 8 at 8:59






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      @Mattman944 Correct. I am assuming no heat sink. Why would I include a heatsink when the question was not asking about that? The whole point of this answer was to make it simple and allow OP to calculate it themselves. They will realise they need a heatsink (actually easier to just use a switching IC) then they can ask another question about heatsinks
      $endgroup$
      – MCG
      Apr 8 at 10:26











    • $begingroup$
      1. Wot? No TO3 ? :-) 2. A heatsink is an integral part of such a design - whether it is the one on the device used (the metal and/or plastic overall packaging) alone or that plus any added one.3. A series resistor is also an extremely good idea idf they insist on doing this.
      $endgroup$
      – Russell McMahon
      Apr 9 at 1:18
















    • $begingroup$
      I calculated the mean power in the regulator as 19V * 480mA as 9.12W with a temperature rise (TO220 package) of 214C.
      $endgroup$
      – Peter Smith
      Apr 8 at 8:33






    • 4




      $begingroup$
      @PeterSmith I deliberately missed out the exact calculations for OP so they can work it out for themselves
      $endgroup$
      – MCG
      Apr 8 at 8:35






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      You are assuming no heat sink. With a heat sink and a series resistor to dump some of the power, it has a chance. Unfortunately, convection calculations for heat sinks are much more complicated than a conducted heat analysis. When I was working, I would let an ME do the thermal analysis. At home, with lot of experience by trial and error, I know about how big a heat sink needs to be.
      $endgroup$
      – Mattman944
      Apr 8 at 8:59






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      @Mattman944 Correct. I am assuming no heat sink. Why would I include a heatsink when the question was not asking about that? The whole point of this answer was to make it simple and allow OP to calculate it themselves. They will realise they need a heatsink (actually easier to just use a switching IC) then they can ask another question about heatsinks
      $endgroup$
      – MCG
      Apr 8 at 10:26











    • $begingroup$
      1. Wot? No TO3 ? :-) 2. A heatsink is an integral part of such a design - whether it is the one on the device used (the metal and/or plastic overall packaging) alone or that plus any added one.3. A series resistor is also an extremely good idea idf they insist on doing this.
      $endgroup$
      – Russell McMahon
      Apr 9 at 1:18















    $begingroup$
    I calculated the mean power in the regulator as 19V * 480mA as 9.12W with a temperature rise (TO220 package) of 214C.
    $endgroup$
    – Peter Smith
    Apr 8 at 8:33




    $begingroup$
    I calculated the mean power in the regulator as 19V * 480mA as 9.12W with a temperature rise (TO220 package) of 214C.
    $endgroup$
    – Peter Smith
    Apr 8 at 8:33




    4




    4




    $begingroup$
    @PeterSmith I deliberately missed out the exact calculations for OP so they can work it out for themselves
    $endgroup$
    – MCG
    Apr 8 at 8:35




    $begingroup$
    @PeterSmith I deliberately missed out the exact calculations for OP so they can work it out for themselves
    $endgroup$
    – MCG
    Apr 8 at 8:35




    1




    1




    $begingroup$
    You are assuming no heat sink. With a heat sink and a series resistor to dump some of the power, it has a chance. Unfortunately, convection calculations for heat sinks are much more complicated than a conducted heat analysis. When I was working, I would let an ME do the thermal analysis. At home, with lot of experience by trial and error, I know about how big a heat sink needs to be.
    $endgroup$
    – Mattman944
    Apr 8 at 8:59




    $begingroup$
    You are assuming no heat sink. With a heat sink and a series resistor to dump some of the power, it has a chance. Unfortunately, convection calculations for heat sinks are much more complicated than a conducted heat analysis. When I was working, I would let an ME do the thermal analysis. At home, with lot of experience by trial and error, I know about how big a heat sink needs to be.
    $endgroup$
    – Mattman944
    Apr 8 at 8:59




    3




    3




    $begingroup$
    @Mattman944 Correct. I am assuming no heat sink. Why would I include a heatsink when the question was not asking about that? The whole point of this answer was to make it simple and allow OP to calculate it themselves. They will realise they need a heatsink (actually easier to just use a switching IC) then they can ask another question about heatsinks
    $endgroup$
    – MCG
    Apr 8 at 10:26





    $begingroup$
    @Mattman944 Correct. I am assuming no heat sink. Why would I include a heatsink when the question was not asking about that? The whole point of this answer was to make it simple and allow OP to calculate it themselves. They will realise they need a heatsink (actually easier to just use a switching IC) then they can ask another question about heatsinks
    $endgroup$
    – MCG
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    1. Wot? No TO3 ? :-) 2. A heatsink is an integral part of such a design - whether it is the one on the device used (the metal and/or plastic overall packaging) alone or that plus any added one.3. A series resistor is also an extremely good idea idf they insist on doing this.
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    1. Wot? No TO3 ? :-) 2. A heatsink is an integral part of such a design - whether it is the one on the device used (the metal and/or plastic overall packaging) alone or that plus any added one.3. A series resistor is also an extremely good idea idf they insist on doing this.
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    You need to know the package. Then calculate the temperature rises. Thermal calculations are analogous to electrical calculations, power dissipated is analogous to current. Thermal resistance is analogous to electrical resistance, temperature is analogous to voltage.



    Rough calculations show that you will need a really good heat sink to keep the case temperature reasonable. Some of these parts have a large metal pad on the bottom designed to be soldered to a large copper pad on the PWB.



    Another trick to use is to put a resistor in series with the input power to dump some of the power.



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      You need to know the package. Then calculate the temperature rises. Thermal calculations are analogous to electrical calculations, power dissipated is analogous to current. Thermal resistance is analogous to electrical resistance, temperature is analogous to voltage.



      Rough calculations show that you will need a really good heat sink to keep the case temperature reasonable. Some of these parts have a large metal pad on the bottom designed to be soldered to a large copper pad on the PWB.



      Another trick to use is to put a resistor in series with the input power to dump some of the power.



      enter image description here






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        You need to know the package. Then calculate the temperature rises. Thermal calculations are analogous to electrical calculations, power dissipated is analogous to current. Thermal resistance is analogous to electrical resistance, temperature is analogous to voltage.



        Rough calculations show that you will need a really good heat sink to keep the case temperature reasonable. Some of these parts have a large metal pad on the bottom designed to be soldered to a large copper pad on the PWB.



        Another trick to use is to put a resistor in series with the input power to dump some of the power.



        enter image description here






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        You need to know the package. Then calculate the temperature rises. Thermal calculations are analogous to electrical calculations, power dissipated is analogous to current. Thermal resistance is analogous to electrical resistance, temperature is analogous to voltage.



        Rough calculations show that you will need a really good heat sink to keep the case temperature reasonable. Some of these parts have a large metal pad on the bottom designed to be soldered to a large copper pad on the PWB.



        Another trick to use is to put a resistor in series with the input power to dump some of the power.



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