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Proto-Indo-European (PIE) words with IPA
What's weird about Proto-Indo-European Stops?Cellar door and Indo-European languagesDictionary with real IPA and English sandhi rules?Spelling of laryngeals in Proto-Indo-EuropeanChart with audible sounds pronounced, for Proto-Indo-European?Are there any sources that provide accurate IPA transcriptions for Danish?(PIE) déḱm̥ vs déḱm̥t (ten)IPA to plain simple English translatorSystem for intermixing IPA with OrthographyIs wikipedia wrong when it speaks of the hebrew shwa not being pronounced ə?If *h1 were a glottal stop, and virtually all German word initial vowels have an implicit glottal stop
Are there any resources that can show IPA pronounciation for each PIE word? Either with laryngeals or without laryngeals?
Wikitionary gives me only small list Category:Proto-Indo-European terms with IPA pronunciation, where:
*bʰréh₂tēr is [b̤ráx.tɛːr], *h₂éwis is [xáwis], *méh₂tēr is [máx.tɛːr], *nisdós is [niz.dós], and
*pénkʷe is pronounced [péŋ⁽ʷ⁾.kʷe].
So, since Wikitionary can give me only six words with IPA, are there any resources that can give me larger word lists with IPA?
ipa pronunciation proto-indo-european resource-request
add a comment |
Are there any resources that can show IPA pronounciation for each PIE word? Either with laryngeals or without laryngeals?
Wikitionary gives me only small list Category:Proto-Indo-European terms with IPA pronunciation, where:
*bʰréh₂tēr is [b̤ráx.tɛːr], *h₂éwis is [xáwis], *méh₂tēr is [máx.tɛːr], *nisdós is [niz.dós], and
*pénkʷe is pronounced [péŋ⁽ʷ⁾.kʷe].
So, since Wikitionary can give me only six words with IPA, are there any resources that can give me larger word lists with IPA?
ipa pronunciation proto-indo-european resource-request
I am arriving too late, but are there any person or user(either inside or outside StackExchange) that can help find me any PIE word pronounciation resource? Draconis haven't found yet, and Wikitionary list is too small for me.
– Rock
12 hours ago
Also, Draconis puts their own guess inside this website, without posting any link , where I can view, how Draconis IPA guess look like. So, if you think, that your own guess is good, link to your own guess website or document or PDF instead of posting your own guess in this website.
– Rock
12 hours ago
add a comment |
Are there any resources that can show IPA pronounciation for each PIE word? Either with laryngeals or without laryngeals?
Wikitionary gives me only small list Category:Proto-Indo-European terms with IPA pronunciation, where:
*bʰréh₂tēr is [b̤ráx.tɛːr], *h₂éwis is [xáwis], *méh₂tēr is [máx.tɛːr], *nisdós is [niz.dós], and
*pénkʷe is pronounced [péŋ⁽ʷ⁾.kʷe].
So, since Wikitionary can give me only six words with IPA, are there any resources that can give me larger word lists with IPA?
ipa pronunciation proto-indo-european resource-request
Are there any resources that can show IPA pronounciation for each PIE word? Either with laryngeals or without laryngeals?
Wikitionary gives me only small list Category:Proto-Indo-European terms with IPA pronunciation, where:
*bʰréh₂tēr is [b̤ráx.tɛːr], *h₂éwis is [xáwis], *méh₂tēr is [máx.tɛːr], *nisdós is [niz.dós], and
*pénkʷe is pronounced [péŋ⁽ʷ⁾.kʷe].
So, since Wikitionary can give me only six words with IPA, are there any resources that can give me larger word lists with IPA?
ipa pronunciation proto-indo-european resource-request
ipa pronunciation proto-indo-european resource-request
asked May 19 at 9:52
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I am arriving too late, but are there any person or user(either inside or outside StackExchange) that can help find me any PIE word pronounciation resource? Draconis haven't found yet, and Wikitionary list is too small for me.
– Rock
12 hours ago
Also, Draconis puts their own guess inside this website, without posting any link , where I can view, how Draconis IPA guess look like. So, if you think, that your own guess is good, link to your own guess website or document or PDF instead of posting your own guess in this website.
– Rock
12 hours ago
add a comment |
I am arriving too late, but are there any person or user(either inside or outside StackExchange) that can help find me any PIE word pronounciation resource? Draconis haven't found yet, and Wikitionary list is too small for me.
– Rock
12 hours ago
Also, Draconis puts their own guess inside this website, without posting any link , where I can view, how Draconis IPA guess look like. So, if you think, that your own guess is good, link to your own guess website or document or PDF instead of posting your own guess in this website.
– Rock
12 hours ago
I am arriving too late, but are there any person or user(either inside or outside StackExchange) that can help find me any PIE word pronounciation resource? Draconis haven't found yet, and Wikitionary list is too small for me.
– Rock
12 hours ago
I am arriving too late, but are there any person or user(either inside or outside StackExchange) that can help find me any PIE word pronounciation resource? Draconis haven't found yet, and Wikitionary list is too small for me.
– Rock
12 hours ago
Also, Draconis puts their own guess inside this website, without posting any link , where I can view, how Draconis IPA guess look like. So, if you think, that your own guess is good, link to your own guess website or document or PDF instead of posting your own guess in this website.
– Rock
12 hours ago
Also, Draconis puts their own guess inside this website, without posting any link , where I can view, how Draconis IPA guess look like. So, if you think, that your own guess is good, link to your own guess website or document or PDF instead of posting your own guess in this website.
– Rock
12 hours ago
add a comment |
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The problem is, nobody is quite sure how PIE was pronounced!
When we talk about PIE phonemes like /*d/
, we don't mean it was actually IPA [d]
. We mean that "there seems to have been a phoneme, which is pronounced [d]
in a lot of descendant languages". But there are also many languages which don't pronounce it [d]
: Germanic, Anatolian (an extremely conservative branch), Armenian, and Tocharian all have [t]
there. So there's a theory that /*d/
was actually [t']
, an ejective, which makes certain weirdnesses in PIE a whole lot less weird. (Look into the "glottalic theory" for more details; there's some info in this question's answers too.)
Similarly, PIE has two "velar" series, the ones marked with accents (/*ḱ/
) and the ones without (/*k/
). It's clear that there was a difference between these series, because they act differently in the satem languages, but there's very little agreement on what the difference actually was. Personally, I like the theory that /*ḱ/
was velar ([k]
) and /*k/
was uvular ([q]
), but you can find a great number of linguists who would vehemently disagree with me. In particular, if you don't accept the glottalic theory, the uvular theory makes the weird consonant system even weirder, requiring sounds that aren't attested in any language in the world.
On the plus side, there are only two (maybe three) phonetic rules reconstructed for PIE that aren't represented in written-out reconstructions:
/*e/
next to/*h₂/
becomes[a]
/*e/
next to/*h₃/
becomes[o]
And sometimes (depending on reconstruction):
- Consonant clusters assimilate in voicing, and nasals assimilate in place
That change definitely happened at some point, there's solid evidence for that, but it's unclear if it should be called a part of PIE or a later change.
So if you want to turn a PIE word into IPA, the process is straightforward:
- Decide which pronunciation you want for each reconstructed phoneme
- Map each phoneme onto its chosen pronunciation
- Apply the two (or three) sound changes
And you're done! But note that this pronunciation is very definitely not accurate to what the actual early Indo-Europeans would have used: that's the problem with using reconstructions. There's just too much detail that's been lost over the millennia. (In particular, there were certainly more phonetic changes than the three I listed—we just don't have enough evidence to reconstruct others with any certainty.)
Here's my personal guess as to pronunciations:
But it must be emphasized that this is only a guess: an educated guess, sure, but there's just not enough evidence to call it a "theory", and given the lack of evidence, it's not really falsifiable. Other linguists here can probably give you a dozen other reconstructions that differ from mine. That said—while this guess isn't better than any other, it's also not really worse than any other. So depending on your purposes, that might be enough.
1
@vectory I'd say the reconstruction does show what phonemes there are…but as you say, it misses out on the hundreds of phonetic details every language has, like the English glottal stop. Which is why, alas, we can never really have any sort of "accurate" Proto-Indo-European pronunciation.
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
1
(That said, why do you say it's off-topic? OP asked for PIE words in IPA, and I'm explaining why they can't find that anywhere—there's simply not enough info available to do more than guess at the actual pronunciation.)
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
3
@Rock Unfortunately, to my knowledge, such a resource does not exist (because the actual pronunciation is still unknown).
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:38
3
@Rock Wiktionary is making a guess (or, rather, Ringe (2006) is making a guess), but it's still no better than guessing. I'm not sure why those particular pages have phonetics given, but imo it's a mistake to list guessed phonetics alongside the far more solid information like the declension table.
– Draconis
May 19 at 20:04
2
Wiktionary as well as this answer are trying "to scratch an itch", but of course any dilligent guardian will tell that scratching may worsen the symptoms.
– vectory
May 19 at 20:24
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The problem is, nobody is quite sure how PIE was pronounced!
When we talk about PIE phonemes like /*d/
, we don't mean it was actually IPA [d]
. We mean that "there seems to have been a phoneme, which is pronounced [d]
in a lot of descendant languages". But there are also many languages which don't pronounce it [d]
: Germanic, Anatolian (an extremely conservative branch), Armenian, and Tocharian all have [t]
there. So there's a theory that /*d/
was actually [t']
, an ejective, which makes certain weirdnesses in PIE a whole lot less weird. (Look into the "glottalic theory" for more details; there's some info in this question's answers too.)
Similarly, PIE has two "velar" series, the ones marked with accents (/*ḱ/
) and the ones without (/*k/
). It's clear that there was a difference between these series, because they act differently in the satem languages, but there's very little agreement on what the difference actually was. Personally, I like the theory that /*ḱ/
was velar ([k]
) and /*k/
was uvular ([q]
), but you can find a great number of linguists who would vehemently disagree with me. In particular, if you don't accept the glottalic theory, the uvular theory makes the weird consonant system even weirder, requiring sounds that aren't attested in any language in the world.
On the plus side, there are only two (maybe three) phonetic rules reconstructed for PIE that aren't represented in written-out reconstructions:
/*e/
next to/*h₂/
becomes[a]
/*e/
next to/*h₃/
becomes[o]
And sometimes (depending on reconstruction):
- Consonant clusters assimilate in voicing, and nasals assimilate in place
That change definitely happened at some point, there's solid evidence for that, but it's unclear if it should be called a part of PIE or a later change.
So if you want to turn a PIE word into IPA, the process is straightforward:
- Decide which pronunciation you want for each reconstructed phoneme
- Map each phoneme onto its chosen pronunciation
- Apply the two (or three) sound changes
And you're done! But note that this pronunciation is very definitely not accurate to what the actual early Indo-Europeans would have used: that's the problem with using reconstructions. There's just too much detail that's been lost over the millennia. (In particular, there were certainly more phonetic changes than the three I listed—we just don't have enough evidence to reconstruct others with any certainty.)
Here's my personal guess as to pronunciations:
But it must be emphasized that this is only a guess: an educated guess, sure, but there's just not enough evidence to call it a "theory", and given the lack of evidence, it's not really falsifiable. Other linguists here can probably give you a dozen other reconstructions that differ from mine. That said—while this guess isn't better than any other, it's also not really worse than any other. So depending on your purposes, that might be enough.
1
@vectory I'd say the reconstruction does show what phonemes there are…but as you say, it misses out on the hundreds of phonetic details every language has, like the English glottal stop. Which is why, alas, we can never really have any sort of "accurate" Proto-Indo-European pronunciation.
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
1
(That said, why do you say it's off-topic? OP asked for PIE words in IPA, and I'm explaining why they can't find that anywhere—there's simply not enough info available to do more than guess at the actual pronunciation.)
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
3
@Rock Unfortunately, to my knowledge, such a resource does not exist (because the actual pronunciation is still unknown).
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:38
3
@Rock Wiktionary is making a guess (or, rather, Ringe (2006) is making a guess), but it's still no better than guessing. I'm not sure why those particular pages have phonetics given, but imo it's a mistake to list guessed phonetics alongside the far more solid information like the declension table.
– Draconis
May 19 at 20:04
2
Wiktionary as well as this answer are trying "to scratch an itch", but of course any dilligent guardian will tell that scratching may worsen the symptoms.
– vectory
May 19 at 20:24
|
show 11 more comments
The problem is, nobody is quite sure how PIE was pronounced!
When we talk about PIE phonemes like /*d/
, we don't mean it was actually IPA [d]
. We mean that "there seems to have been a phoneme, which is pronounced [d]
in a lot of descendant languages". But there are also many languages which don't pronounce it [d]
: Germanic, Anatolian (an extremely conservative branch), Armenian, and Tocharian all have [t]
there. So there's a theory that /*d/
was actually [t']
, an ejective, which makes certain weirdnesses in PIE a whole lot less weird. (Look into the "glottalic theory" for more details; there's some info in this question's answers too.)
Similarly, PIE has two "velar" series, the ones marked with accents (/*ḱ/
) and the ones without (/*k/
). It's clear that there was a difference between these series, because they act differently in the satem languages, but there's very little agreement on what the difference actually was. Personally, I like the theory that /*ḱ/
was velar ([k]
) and /*k/
was uvular ([q]
), but you can find a great number of linguists who would vehemently disagree with me. In particular, if you don't accept the glottalic theory, the uvular theory makes the weird consonant system even weirder, requiring sounds that aren't attested in any language in the world.
On the plus side, there are only two (maybe three) phonetic rules reconstructed for PIE that aren't represented in written-out reconstructions:
/*e/
next to/*h₂/
becomes[a]
/*e/
next to/*h₃/
becomes[o]
And sometimes (depending on reconstruction):
- Consonant clusters assimilate in voicing, and nasals assimilate in place
That change definitely happened at some point, there's solid evidence for that, but it's unclear if it should be called a part of PIE or a later change.
So if you want to turn a PIE word into IPA, the process is straightforward:
- Decide which pronunciation you want for each reconstructed phoneme
- Map each phoneme onto its chosen pronunciation
- Apply the two (or three) sound changes
And you're done! But note that this pronunciation is very definitely not accurate to what the actual early Indo-Europeans would have used: that's the problem with using reconstructions. There's just too much detail that's been lost over the millennia. (In particular, there were certainly more phonetic changes than the three I listed—we just don't have enough evidence to reconstruct others with any certainty.)
Here's my personal guess as to pronunciations:
But it must be emphasized that this is only a guess: an educated guess, sure, but there's just not enough evidence to call it a "theory", and given the lack of evidence, it's not really falsifiable. Other linguists here can probably give you a dozen other reconstructions that differ from mine. That said—while this guess isn't better than any other, it's also not really worse than any other. So depending on your purposes, that might be enough.
1
@vectory I'd say the reconstruction does show what phonemes there are…but as you say, it misses out on the hundreds of phonetic details every language has, like the English glottal stop. Which is why, alas, we can never really have any sort of "accurate" Proto-Indo-European pronunciation.
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
1
(That said, why do you say it's off-topic? OP asked for PIE words in IPA, and I'm explaining why they can't find that anywhere—there's simply not enough info available to do more than guess at the actual pronunciation.)
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
3
@Rock Unfortunately, to my knowledge, such a resource does not exist (because the actual pronunciation is still unknown).
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:38
3
@Rock Wiktionary is making a guess (or, rather, Ringe (2006) is making a guess), but it's still no better than guessing. I'm not sure why those particular pages have phonetics given, but imo it's a mistake to list guessed phonetics alongside the far more solid information like the declension table.
– Draconis
May 19 at 20:04
2
Wiktionary as well as this answer are trying "to scratch an itch", but of course any dilligent guardian will tell that scratching may worsen the symptoms.
– vectory
May 19 at 20:24
|
show 11 more comments
The problem is, nobody is quite sure how PIE was pronounced!
When we talk about PIE phonemes like /*d/
, we don't mean it was actually IPA [d]
. We mean that "there seems to have been a phoneme, which is pronounced [d]
in a lot of descendant languages". But there are also many languages which don't pronounce it [d]
: Germanic, Anatolian (an extremely conservative branch), Armenian, and Tocharian all have [t]
there. So there's a theory that /*d/
was actually [t']
, an ejective, which makes certain weirdnesses in PIE a whole lot less weird. (Look into the "glottalic theory" for more details; there's some info in this question's answers too.)
Similarly, PIE has two "velar" series, the ones marked with accents (/*ḱ/
) and the ones without (/*k/
). It's clear that there was a difference between these series, because they act differently in the satem languages, but there's very little agreement on what the difference actually was. Personally, I like the theory that /*ḱ/
was velar ([k]
) and /*k/
was uvular ([q]
), but you can find a great number of linguists who would vehemently disagree with me. In particular, if you don't accept the glottalic theory, the uvular theory makes the weird consonant system even weirder, requiring sounds that aren't attested in any language in the world.
On the plus side, there are only two (maybe three) phonetic rules reconstructed for PIE that aren't represented in written-out reconstructions:
/*e/
next to/*h₂/
becomes[a]
/*e/
next to/*h₃/
becomes[o]
And sometimes (depending on reconstruction):
- Consonant clusters assimilate in voicing, and nasals assimilate in place
That change definitely happened at some point, there's solid evidence for that, but it's unclear if it should be called a part of PIE or a later change.
So if you want to turn a PIE word into IPA, the process is straightforward:
- Decide which pronunciation you want for each reconstructed phoneme
- Map each phoneme onto its chosen pronunciation
- Apply the two (or three) sound changes
And you're done! But note that this pronunciation is very definitely not accurate to what the actual early Indo-Europeans would have used: that's the problem with using reconstructions. There's just too much detail that's been lost over the millennia. (In particular, there were certainly more phonetic changes than the three I listed—we just don't have enough evidence to reconstruct others with any certainty.)
Here's my personal guess as to pronunciations:
But it must be emphasized that this is only a guess: an educated guess, sure, but there's just not enough evidence to call it a "theory", and given the lack of evidence, it's not really falsifiable. Other linguists here can probably give you a dozen other reconstructions that differ from mine. That said—while this guess isn't better than any other, it's also not really worse than any other. So depending on your purposes, that might be enough.
The problem is, nobody is quite sure how PIE was pronounced!
When we talk about PIE phonemes like /*d/
, we don't mean it was actually IPA [d]
. We mean that "there seems to have been a phoneme, which is pronounced [d]
in a lot of descendant languages". But there are also many languages which don't pronounce it [d]
: Germanic, Anatolian (an extremely conservative branch), Armenian, and Tocharian all have [t]
there. So there's a theory that /*d/
was actually [t']
, an ejective, which makes certain weirdnesses in PIE a whole lot less weird. (Look into the "glottalic theory" for more details; there's some info in this question's answers too.)
Similarly, PIE has two "velar" series, the ones marked with accents (/*ḱ/
) and the ones without (/*k/
). It's clear that there was a difference between these series, because they act differently in the satem languages, but there's very little agreement on what the difference actually was. Personally, I like the theory that /*ḱ/
was velar ([k]
) and /*k/
was uvular ([q]
), but you can find a great number of linguists who would vehemently disagree with me. In particular, if you don't accept the glottalic theory, the uvular theory makes the weird consonant system even weirder, requiring sounds that aren't attested in any language in the world.
On the plus side, there are only two (maybe three) phonetic rules reconstructed for PIE that aren't represented in written-out reconstructions:
/*e/
next to/*h₂/
becomes[a]
/*e/
next to/*h₃/
becomes[o]
And sometimes (depending on reconstruction):
- Consonant clusters assimilate in voicing, and nasals assimilate in place
That change definitely happened at some point, there's solid evidence for that, but it's unclear if it should be called a part of PIE or a later change.
So if you want to turn a PIE word into IPA, the process is straightforward:
- Decide which pronunciation you want for each reconstructed phoneme
- Map each phoneme onto its chosen pronunciation
- Apply the two (or three) sound changes
And you're done! But note that this pronunciation is very definitely not accurate to what the actual early Indo-Europeans would have used: that's the problem with using reconstructions. There's just too much detail that's been lost over the millennia. (In particular, there were certainly more phonetic changes than the three I listed—we just don't have enough evidence to reconstruct others with any certainty.)
Here's my personal guess as to pronunciations:
But it must be emphasized that this is only a guess: an educated guess, sure, but there's just not enough evidence to call it a "theory", and given the lack of evidence, it's not really falsifiable. Other linguists here can probably give you a dozen other reconstructions that differ from mine. That said—while this guess isn't better than any other, it's also not really worse than any other. So depending on your purposes, that might be enough.
edited May 19 at 17:04
answered May 19 at 16:52
DraconisDraconis
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@vectory I'd say the reconstruction does show what phonemes there are…but as you say, it misses out on the hundreds of phonetic details every language has, like the English glottal stop. Which is why, alas, we can never really have any sort of "accurate" Proto-Indo-European pronunciation.
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
1
(That said, why do you say it's off-topic? OP asked for PIE words in IPA, and I'm explaining why they can't find that anywhere—there's simply not enough info available to do more than guess at the actual pronunciation.)
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
3
@Rock Unfortunately, to my knowledge, such a resource does not exist (because the actual pronunciation is still unknown).
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:38
3
@Rock Wiktionary is making a guess (or, rather, Ringe (2006) is making a guess), but it's still no better than guessing. I'm not sure why those particular pages have phonetics given, but imo it's a mistake to list guessed phonetics alongside the far more solid information like the declension table.
– Draconis
May 19 at 20:04
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Wiktionary as well as this answer are trying "to scratch an itch", but of course any dilligent guardian will tell that scratching may worsen the symptoms.
– vectory
May 19 at 20:24
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@vectory I'd say the reconstruction does show what phonemes there are…but as you say, it misses out on the hundreds of phonetic details every language has, like the English glottal stop. Which is why, alas, we can never really have any sort of "accurate" Proto-Indo-European pronunciation.
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
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(That said, why do you say it's off-topic? OP asked for PIE words in IPA, and I'm explaining why they can't find that anywhere—there's simply not enough info available to do more than guess at the actual pronunciation.)
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
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@Rock Unfortunately, to my knowledge, such a resource does not exist (because the actual pronunciation is still unknown).
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:38
3
@Rock Wiktionary is making a guess (or, rather, Ringe (2006) is making a guess), but it's still no better than guessing. I'm not sure why those particular pages have phonetics given, but imo it's a mistake to list guessed phonetics alongside the far more solid information like the declension table.
– Draconis
May 19 at 20:04
2
Wiktionary as well as this answer are trying "to scratch an itch", but of course any dilligent guardian will tell that scratching may worsen the symptoms.
– vectory
May 19 at 20:24
1
1
@vectory I'd say the reconstruction does show what phonemes there are…but as you say, it misses out on the hundreds of phonetic details every language has, like the English glottal stop. Which is why, alas, we can never really have any sort of "accurate" Proto-Indo-European pronunciation.
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
@vectory I'd say the reconstruction does show what phonemes there are…but as you say, it misses out on the hundreds of phonetic details every language has, like the English glottal stop. Which is why, alas, we can never really have any sort of "accurate" Proto-Indo-European pronunciation.
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
1
1
(That said, why do you say it's off-topic? OP asked for PIE words in IPA, and I'm explaining why they can't find that anywhere—there's simply not enough info available to do more than guess at the actual pronunciation.)
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
(That said, why do you say it's off-topic? OP asked for PIE words in IPA, and I'm explaining why they can't find that anywhere—there's simply not enough info available to do more than guess at the actual pronunciation.)
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:10
3
3
@Rock Unfortunately, to my knowledge, such a resource does not exist (because the actual pronunciation is still unknown).
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:38
@Rock Unfortunately, to my knowledge, such a resource does not exist (because the actual pronunciation is still unknown).
– Draconis
May 19 at 19:38
3
3
@Rock Wiktionary is making a guess (or, rather, Ringe (2006) is making a guess), but it's still no better than guessing. I'm not sure why those particular pages have phonetics given, but imo it's a mistake to list guessed phonetics alongside the far more solid information like the declension table.
– Draconis
May 19 at 20:04
@Rock Wiktionary is making a guess (or, rather, Ringe (2006) is making a guess), but it's still no better than guessing. I'm not sure why those particular pages have phonetics given, but imo it's a mistake to list guessed phonetics alongside the far more solid information like the declension table.
– Draconis
May 19 at 20:04
2
2
Wiktionary as well as this answer are trying "to scratch an itch", but of course any dilligent guardian will tell that scratching may worsen the symptoms.
– vectory
May 19 at 20:24
Wiktionary as well as this answer are trying "to scratch an itch", but of course any dilligent guardian will tell that scratching may worsen the symptoms.
– vectory
May 19 at 20:24
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I am arriving too late, but are there any person or user(either inside or outside StackExchange) that can help find me any PIE word pronounciation resource? Draconis haven't found yet, and Wikitionary list is too small for me.
– Rock
12 hours ago
Also, Draconis puts their own guess inside this website, without posting any link , where I can view, how Draconis IPA guess look like. So, if you think, that your own guess is good, link to your own guess website or document or PDF instead of posting your own guess in this website.
– Rock
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