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Azure firewall vs Azure network security group



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)
Come Celebrate our 10 Year Anniversary!Allowing Internet traffic into DMZ using Azure Network Security GroupAzure “firewall” capture VPN trafficWhat is the difference between an Azure network security group and a VNET?How Network Security Groups affect Azure VM IPs?Add Azure SQL Server in to Azure VNETNSG: Block all outbount Internet trafficHow can I log IP addresses of all connections to virtual machines in Azure?How to restrict RDPs to Azure VMs only via VPN?Restrict traffic between peered VNETs in AzureAccess Azure PostgreSQL with S2S VPN



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I've been trying to understand the difference between a Azure firewall (https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/azure-firewall/) and the features offered by NSGs/network security groups (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-network/security-overview).



In our designed landscape, we currently have around 5~10 virtual networks within our subscription. Each of these has it's own network security group at the moment. These networks contain a variety of Azure products(web apps, vms, exposed to only trusted locations, exposed to the internet, ...). From my perspective, we can manage the in- & outbound traffic based via the network security groups. The only benefit of the firewall, I see, is that it can be used as a single point for managing traffic rules. But I don't see the cost of the firewall being worth just reducing the management of this. I think I'm missing something painstakingly obvious in the picture about the difference between what a Azure firewall does, and how a network security group operate. But I don't understand what.



To have a concrete question:



  • When is it necessary to have a Azure firewall within your architecture?

  • What is the difference between an Azure network security group and the Azure firewall to manage traffic rules (HTTPS & RDP)









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    I've been trying to understand the difference between a Azure firewall (https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/azure-firewall/) and the features offered by NSGs/network security groups (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-network/security-overview).



    In our designed landscape, we currently have around 5~10 virtual networks within our subscription. Each of these has it's own network security group at the moment. These networks contain a variety of Azure products(web apps, vms, exposed to only trusted locations, exposed to the internet, ...). From my perspective, we can manage the in- & outbound traffic based via the network security groups. The only benefit of the firewall, I see, is that it can be used as a single point for managing traffic rules. But I don't see the cost of the firewall being worth just reducing the management of this. I think I'm missing something painstakingly obvious in the picture about the difference between what a Azure firewall does, and how a network security group operate. But I don't understand what.



    To have a concrete question:



    • When is it necessary to have a Azure firewall within your architecture?

    • What is the difference between an Azure network security group and the Azure firewall to manage traffic rules (HTTPS & RDP)









    share|improve this question







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      I've been trying to understand the difference between a Azure firewall (https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/azure-firewall/) and the features offered by NSGs/network security groups (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-network/security-overview).



      In our designed landscape, we currently have around 5~10 virtual networks within our subscription. Each of these has it's own network security group at the moment. These networks contain a variety of Azure products(web apps, vms, exposed to only trusted locations, exposed to the internet, ...). From my perspective, we can manage the in- & outbound traffic based via the network security groups. The only benefit of the firewall, I see, is that it can be used as a single point for managing traffic rules. But I don't see the cost of the firewall being worth just reducing the management of this. I think I'm missing something painstakingly obvious in the picture about the difference between what a Azure firewall does, and how a network security group operate. But I don't understand what.



      To have a concrete question:



      • When is it necessary to have a Azure firewall within your architecture?

      • What is the difference between an Azure network security group and the Azure firewall to manage traffic rules (HTTPS & RDP)









      share|improve this question







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      Reinard is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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      I've been trying to understand the difference between a Azure firewall (https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/azure-firewall/) and the features offered by NSGs/network security groups (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-network/security-overview).



      In our designed landscape, we currently have around 5~10 virtual networks within our subscription. Each of these has it's own network security group at the moment. These networks contain a variety of Azure products(web apps, vms, exposed to only trusted locations, exposed to the internet, ...). From my perspective, we can manage the in- & outbound traffic based via the network security groups. The only benefit of the firewall, I see, is that it can be used as a single point for managing traffic rules. But I don't see the cost of the firewall being worth just reducing the management of this. I think I'm missing something painstakingly obvious in the picture about the difference between what a Azure firewall does, and how a network security group operate. But I don't understand what.



      To have a concrete question:



      • When is it necessary to have a Azure firewall within your architecture?

      • What is the difference between an Azure network security group and the Azure firewall to manage traffic rules (HTTPS & RDP)






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          Azure Firewall features
          https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/firewall/firewall-faq#what-capabilities-are-supported-in-azure-firewall



          Azure Firewall vs NSG
          https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/firewall/firewall-faq#what-is-the-difference-between-network-security-groups-nsgs-and-azure-firewall



          I use NSG to limit access within a vNET and Azure Firewall to limit access to a vNET from the outside. There are some good detailed explanation in the docs articles






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          • but there is nothing preventing you from using a vnet to manage access from outside the vnet though? Why go for the firewall and not manage it from nsg? In my case I have 3 types of traffic: RDP from a predefined list of IPs, HTTPS from a predefined list of IPs, and internet HTTPS traffic to a limited amount of vnets/servers/endpoints.

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          • That works fine and I have done that on certain environments also. FW has some extra features for l blocking URLs and so on and MS will add more features in the future. But if you only need to block/allow ports and IPs then skip the FW and use NSG.

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          Azure security groups is a feature of VNet that describe firewall rules on the subnets in Azure.



          Azure firewall is a product for your transit VNet to secure traffic to Azure, across subscriptions and VNets.



          Look at the diagrams in the documentation and decide what meets your design.






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            Azure Firewall features
            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/firewall/firewall-faq#what-capabilities-are-supported-in-azure-firewall



            Azure Firewall vs NSG
            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/firewall/firewall-faq#what-is-the-difference-between-network-security-groups-nsgs-and-azure-firewall



            I use NSG to limit access within a vNET and Azure Firewall to limit access to a vNET from the outside. There are some good detailed explanation in the docs articles






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            • but there is nothing preventing you from using a vnet to manage access from outside the vnet though? Why go for the firewall and not manage it from nsg? In my case I have 3 types of traffic: RDP from a predefined list of IPs, HTTPS from a predefined list of IPs, and internet HTTPS traffic to a limited amount of vnets/servers/endpoints.

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            • That works fine and I have done that on certain environments also. FW has some extra features for l blocking URLs and so on and MS will add more features in the future. But if you only need to block/allow ports and IPs then skip the FW and use NSG.

              – Jarnstrom
              Apr 13 at 8:48















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            Azure Firewall features
            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/firewall/firewall-faq#what-capabilities-are-supported-in-azure-firewall



            Azure Firewall vs NSG
            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/firewall/firewall-faq#what-is-the-difference-between-network-security-groups-nsgs-and-azure-firewall



            I use NSG to limit access within a vNET and Azure Firewall to limit access to a vNET from the outside. There are some good detailed explanation in the docs articles






            share|improve this answer























            • but there is nothing preventing you from using a vnet to manage access from outside the vnet though? Why go for the firewall and not manage it from nsg? In my case I have 3 types of traffic: RDP from a predefined list of IPs, HTTPS from a predefined list of IPs, and internet HTTPS traffic to a limited amount of vnets/servers/endpoints.

              – Reinard
              Apr 13 at 8:41












            • That works fine and I have done that on certain environments also. FW has some extra features for l blocking URLs and so on and MS will add more features in the future. But if you only need to block/allow ports and IPs then skip the FW and use NSG.

              – Jarnstrom
              Apr 13 at 8:48













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            Azure Firewall features
            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/firewall/firewall-faq#what-capabilities-are-supported-in-azure-firewall



            Azure Firewall vs NSG
            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/firewall/firewall-faq#what-is-the-difference-between-network-security-groups-nsgs-and-azure-firewall



            I use NSG to limit access within a vNET and Azure Firewall to limit access to a vNET from the outside. There are some good detailed explanation in the docs articles






            share|improve this answer













            Azure Firewall features
            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/firewall/firewall-faq#what-capabilities-are-supported-in-azure-firewall



            Azure Firewall vs NSG
            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/firewall/firewall-faq#what-is-the-difference-between-network-security-groups-nsgs-and-azure-firewall



            I use NSG to limit access within a vNET and Azure Firewall to limit access to a vNET from the outside. There are some good detailed explanation in the docs articles







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            • but there is nothing preventing you from using a vnet to manage access from outside the vnet though? Why go for the firewall and not manage it from nsg? In my case I have 3 types of traffic: RDP from a predefined list of IPs, HTTPS from a predefined list of IPs, and internet HTTPS traffic to a limited amount of vnets/servers/endpoints.

              – Reinard
              Apr 13 at 8:41












            • That works fine and I have done that on certain environments also. FW has some extra features for l blocking URLs and so on and MS will add more features in the future. But if you only need to block/allow ports and IPs then skip the FW and use NSG.

              – Jarnstrom
              Apr 13 at 8:48

















            • but there is nothing preventing you from using a vnet to manage access from outside the vnet though? Why go for the firewall and not manage it from nsg? In my case I have 3 types of traffic: RDP from a predefined list of IPs, HTTPS from a predefined list of IPs, and internet HTTPS traffic to a limited amount of vnets/servers/endpoints.

              – Reinard
              Apr 13 at 8:41












            • That works fine and I have done that on certain environments also. FW has some extra features for l blocking URLs and so on and MS will add more features in the future. But if you only need to block/allow ports and IPs then skip the FW and use NSG.

              – Jarnstrom
              Apr 13 at 8:48
















            but there is nothing preventing you from using a vnet to manage access from outside the vnet though? Why go for the firewall and not manage it from nsg? In my case I have 3 types of traffic: RDP from a predefined list of IPs, HTTPS from a predefined list of IPs, and internet HTTPS traffic to a limited amount of vnets/servers/endpoints.

            – Reinard
            Apr 13 at 8:41






            but there is nothing preventing you from using a vnet to manage access from outside the vnet though? Why go for the firewall and not manage it from nsg? In my case I have 3 types of traffic: RDP from a predefined list of IPs, HTTPS from a predefined list of IPs, and internet HTTPS traffic to a limited amount of vnets/servers/endpoints.

            – Reinard
            Apr 13 at 8:41














            That works fine and I have done that on certain environments also. FW has some extra features for l blocking URLs and so on and MS will add more features in the future. But if you only need to block/allow ports and IPs then skip the FW and use NSG.

            – Jarnstrom
            Apr 13 at 8:48





            That works fine and I have done that on certain environments also. FW has some extra features for l blocking URLs and so on and MS will add more features in the future. But if you only need to block/allow ports and IPs then skip the FW and use NSG.

            – Jarnstrom
            Apr 13 at 8:48













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            Azure security groups is a feature of VNet that describe firewall rules on the subnets in Azure.



            Azure firewall is a product for your transit VNet to secure traffic to Azure, across subscriptions and VNets.



            Look at the diagrams in the documentation and decide what meets your design.






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              Azure security groups is a feature of VNet that describe firewall rules on the subnets in Azure.



              Azure firewall is a product for your transit VNet to secure traffic to Azure, across subscriptions and VNets.



              Look at the diagrams in the documentation and decide what meets your design.






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                Azure security groups is a feature of VNet that describe firewall rules on the subnets in Azure.



                Azure firewall is a product for your transit VNet to secure traffic to Azure, across subscriptions and VNets.



                Look at the diagrams in the documentation and decide what meets your design.






                share|improve this answer













                Azure security groups is a feature of VNet that describe firewall rules on the subnets in Azure.



                Azure firewall is a product for your transit VNet to secure traffic to Azure, across subscriptions and VNets.



                Look at the diagrams in the documentation and decide what meets your design.







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