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Cacti Graphing incorrect load averages


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I've just set up cacti to monitor CPU and memory usage on a server that I think needs to be upgraded, but to be able to make my case for funding I need hard facts.



I figured getting Cacti to monitor the Memory usage and Load Average would do the trick, but the graph being generated seems to bear no correlation to reality.



According to top my load average right now is hovering at around 5, but cacti is graphing it at 0.1!



How can I get cacti to monitor the real load averages on the server? The server to be monitored is running RHEL5 and using net-SNMP as the SNMP deamon.



Thanks,



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    I've just set up cacti to monitor CPU and memory usage on a server that I think needs to be upgraded, but to be able to make my case for funding I need hard facts.



    I figured getting Cacti to monitor the Memory usage and Load Average would do the trick, but the graph being generated seems to bear no correlation to reality.



    According to top my load average right now is hovering at around 5, but cacti is graphing it at 0.1!



    How can I get cacti to monitor the real load averages on the server? The server to be monitored is running RHEL5 and using net-SNMP as the SNMP deamon.



    Thanks,



    Bart.










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      I've just set up cacti to monitor CPU and memory usage on a server that I think needs to be upgraded, but to be able to make my case for funding I need hard facts.



      I figured getting Cacti to monitor the Memory usage and Load Average would do the trick, but the graph being generated seems to bear no correlation to reality.



      According to top my load average right now is hovering at around 5, but cacti is graphing it at 0.1!



      How can I get cacti to monitor the real load averages on the server? The server to be monitored is running RHEL5 and using net-SNMP as the SNMP deamon.



      Thanks,



      Bart.










      share|improve this question














      I've just set up cacti to monitor CPU and memory usage on a server that I think needs to be upgraded, but to be able to make my case for funding I need hard facts.



      I figured getting Cacti to monitor the Memory usage and Load Average would do the trick, but the graph being generated seems to bear no correlation to reality.



      According to top my load average right now is hovering at around 5, but cacti is graphing it at 0.1!



      How can I get cacti to monitor the real load averages on the server? The server to be monitored is running RHEL5 and using net-SNMP as the SNMP deamon.



      Thanks,



      Bart.







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          You might want to look at Munin, which is very easy to setup, especially if you're just running it locally. It will let you quickly start tracking CPU load and other resources without having to mess with SNMP and remotely grabbing resource data. There are packages for RedHat that should be quite simple to install.






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            cacti has a bad default graph which stacks the 3 values from load average. The total is meaningless, and that is what you are deceived into looking at. Change the default graph to use lines rather than stack and you'll see something better.






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              Bear in mind that load (e.g. /proc/loadavg) can be averaged on different intervals (tipically 1, 5 and 15 minutes). Add the fact that averaging these figures once again over a time series tends to lower the overall indicator, and you may have a hard time making your case for getting an upgrade.



              I suggest you stop thinking on a technical solution and start building a business case around a different indicator, preferrably one that has a correlation to an economic or customer satisfaction indicator -- e.g. maximum response time. Most likely this will get your message through to the people that manages the money.






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                I'd like to add to @labradort's answer.



                I'm assuming you're talking about the ucd/net - Load Average template. The reason for wrong values is that it displays 1/5/15 averages separately, and then adds them together. The values are technically correct, but look weird. This is how you would correct the issue:



                Go to Graph Templates, and select the checkbox right of ucd/net - Load Average.



                Scroll down, choose 'Duplicate' as an action (NOT DELETE) and click Go.



                enter image description here



                Choose a name for your new template, example ucd/net - Alternative Load Average.



                Still in the Graph Templates section, click on the hyperlink of your new template to edit it.



                Click on 'Item # 3'. Change 'Graph Item Type' from STACK to LINE1, then click save.

                Repeat this for 'Item # 5'.



                Delete 'Item # 7': '(No Task): Total'



                The final edit should look something like this:
                enter image description here



                Click save when done.



                This will make your 1 minute average a semi-transparent block, with your longer averages neatly trailing behind. The final result looks like this:
                enter image description here






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                  You might want to look at Munin, which is very easy to setup, especially if you're just running it locally. It will let you quickly start tracking CPU load and other resources without having to mess with SNMP and remotely grabbing resource data. There are packages for RedHat that should be quite simple to install.






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                    You might want to look at Munin, which is very easy to setup, especially if you're just running it locally. It will let you quickly start tracking CPU load and other resources without having to mess with SNMP and remotely grabbing resource data. There are packages for RedHat that should be quite simple to install.






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                      You might want to look at Munin, which is very easy to setup, especially if you're just running it locally. It will let you quickly start tracking CPU load and other resources without having to mess with SNMP and remotely grabbing resource data. There are packages for RedHat that should be quite simple to install.






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                      You might want to look at Munin, which is very easy to setup, especially if you're just running it locally. It will let you quickly start tracking CPU load and other resources without having to mess with SNMP and remotely grabbing resource data. There are packages for RedHat that should be quite simple to install.







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                          cacti has a bad default graph which stacks the 3 values from load average. The total is meaningless, and that is what you are deceived into looking at. Change the default graph to use lines rather than stack and you'll see something better.






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                            cacti has a bad default graph which stacks the 3 values from load average. The total is meaningless, and that is what you are deceived into looking at. Change the default graph to use lines rather than stack and you'll see something better.






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                              cacti has a bad default graph which stacks the 3 values from load average. The total is meaningless, and that is what you are deceived into looking at. Change the default graph to use lines rather than stack and you'll see something better.






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                              cacti has a bad default graph which stacks the 3 values from load average. The total is meaningless, and that is what you are deceived into looking at. Change the default graph to use lines rather than stack and you'll see something better.







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                                  Bear in mind that load (e.g. /proc/loadavg) can be averaged on different intervals (tipically 1, 5 and 15 minutes). Add the fact that averaging these figures once again over a time series tends to lower the overall indicator, and you may have a hard time making your case for getting an upgrade.



                                  I suggest you stop thinking on a technical solution and start building a business case around a different indicator, preferrably one that has a correlation to an economic or customer satisfaction indicator -- e.g. maximum response time. Most likely this will get your message through to the people that manages the money.






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                                    Bear in mind that load (e.g. /proc/loadavg) can be averaged on different intervals (tipically 1, 5 and 15 minutes). Add the fact that averaging these figures once again over a time series tends to lower the overall indicator, and you may have a hard time making your case for getting an upgrade.



                                    I suggest you stop thinking on a technical solution and start building a business case around a different indicator, preferrably one that has a correlation to an economic or customer satisfaction indicator -- e.g. maximum response time. Most likely this will get your message through to the people that manages the money.






                                    share|improve this answer

























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                                      3







                                      Bear in mind that load (e.g. /proc/loadavg) can be averaged on different intervals (tipically 1, 5 and 15 minutes). Add the fact that averaging these figures once again over a time series tends to lower the overall indicator, and you may have a hard time making your case for getting an upgrade.



                                      I suggest you stop thinking on a technical solution and start building a business case around a different indicator, preferrably one that has a correlation to an economic or customer satisfaction indicator -- e.g. maximum response time. Most likely this will get your message through to the people that manages the money.






                                      share|improve this answer













                                      Bear in mind that load (e.g. /proc/loadavg) can be averaged on different intervals (tipically 1, 5 and 15 minutes). Add the fact that averaging these figures once again over a time series tends to lower the overall indicator, and you may have a hard time making your case for getting an upgrade.



                                      I suggest you stop thinking on a technical solution and start building a business case around a different indicator, preferrably one that has a correlation to an economic or customer satisfaction indicator -- e.g. maximum response time. Most likely this will get your message through to the people that manages the money.







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                                          I'd like to add to @labradort's answer.



                                          I'm assuming you're talking about the ucd/net - Load Average template. The reason for wrong values is that it displays 1/5/15 averages separately, and then adds them together. The values are technically correct, but look weird. This is how you would correct the issue:



                                          Go to Graph Templates, and select the checkbox right of ucd/net - Load Average.



                                          Scroll down, choose 'Duplicate' as an action (NOT DELETE) and click Go.



                                          enter image description here



                                          Choose a name for your new template, example ucd/net - Alternative Load Average.



                                          Still in the Graph Templates section, click on the hyperlink of your new template to edit it.



                                          Click on 'Item # 3'. Change 'Graph Item Type' from STACK to LINE1, then click save.

                                          Repeat this for 'Item # 5'.



                                          Delete 'Item # 7': '(No Task): Total'



                                          The final edit should look something like this:
                                          enter image description here



                                          Click save when done.



                                          This will make your 1 minute average a semi-transparent block, with your longer averages neatly trailing behind. The final result looks like this:
                                          enter image description here






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                                            I'd like to add to @labradort's answer.



                                            I'm assuming you're talking about the ucd/net - Load Average template. The reason for wrong values is that it displays 1/5/15 averages separately, and then adds them together. The values are technically correct, but look weird. This is how you would correct the issue:



                                            Go to Graph Templates, and select the checkbox right of ucd/net - Load Average.



                                            Scroll down, choose 'Duplicate' as an action (NOT DELETE) and click Go.



                                            enter image description here



                                            Choose a name for your new template, example ucd/net - Alternative Load Average.



                                            Still in the Graph Templates section, click on the hyperlink of your new template to edit it.



                                            Click on 'Item # 3'. Change 'Graph Item Type' from STACK to LINE1, then click save.

                                            Repeat this for 'Item # 5'.



                                            Delete 'Item # 7': '(No Task): Total'



                                            The final edit should look something like this:
                                            enter image description here



                                            Click save when done.



                                            This will make your 1 minute average a semi-transparent block, with your longer averages neatly trailing behind. The final result looks like this:
                                            enter image description here






                                            share|improve this answer

























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                                              0







                                              I'd like to add to @labradort's answer.



                                              I'm assuming you're talking about the ucd/net - Load Average template. The reason for wrong values is that it displays 1/5/15 averages separately, and then adds them together. The values are technically correct, but look weird. This is how you would correct the issue:



                                              Go to Graph Templates, and select the checkbox right of ucd/net - Load Average.



                                              Scroll down, choose 'Duplicate' as an action (NOT DELETE) and click Go.



                                              enter image description here



                                              Choose a name for your new template, example ucd/net - Alternative Load Average.



                                              Still in the Graph Templates section, click on the hyperlink of your new template to edit it.



                                              Click on 'Item # 3'. Change 'Graph Item Type' from STACK to LINE1, then click save.

                                              Repeat this for 'Item # 5'.



                                              Delete 'Item # 7': '(No Task): Total'



                                              The final edit should look something like this:
                                              enter image description here



                                              Click save when done.



                                              This will make your 1 minute average a semi-transparent block, with your longer averages neatly trailing behind. The final result looks like this:
                                              enter image description here






                                              share|improve this answer













                                              I'd like to add to @labradort's answer.



                                              I'm assuming you're talking about the ucd/net - Load Average template. The reason for wrong values is that it displays 1/5/15 averages separately, and then adds them together. The values are technically correct, but look weird. This is how you would correct the issue:



                                              Go to Graph Templates, and select the checkbox right of ucd/net - Load Average.



                                              Scroll down, choose 'Duplicate' as an action (NOT DELETE) and click Go.



                                              enter image description here



                                              Choose a name for your new template, example ucd/net - Alternative Load Average.



                                              Still in the Graph Templates section, click on the hyperlink of your new template to edit it.



                                              Click on 'Item # 3'. Change 'Graph Item Type' from STACK to LINE1, then click save.

                                              Repeat this for 'Item # 5'.



                                              Delete 'Item # 7': '(No Task): Total'



                                              The final edit should look something like this:
                                              enter image description here



                                              Click save when done.



                                              This will make your 1 minute average a semi-transparent block, with your longer averages neatly trailing behind. The final result looks like this:
                                              enter image description here







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