Stop systemd units in different order than start Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern) Come Celebrate our 10 Year Anniversary!systemd: stop all uninstalled unitsHow to start and stop a systemd unit with another?systemd doesn't honour chkconfig KILL orderHow to stop systemd services in specific orderSpecify systemd dependency on any one of multiple units?Start and stop one systemd unit with anotherStart vsftpd instances by systemd targetSystemd units: [Install] vs. command: start (cloud-config)systemd state changes to “deactivating (stop-sigterm)” for unit with type=forkingsystemd: setting dependencies between templated timer units?

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Stop systemd units in different order than start



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)
Come Celebrate our 10 Year Anniversary!systemd: stop all uninstalled unitsHow to start and stop a systemd unit with another?systemd doesn't honour chkconfig KILL orderHow to stop systemd services in specific orderSpecify systemd dependency on any one of multiple units?Start and stop one systemd unit with anotherStart vsftpd instances by systemd targetSystemd units: [Install] vs. command: start (cloud-config)systemd state changes to “deactivating (stop-sigterm)” for unit with type=forkingsystemd: setting dependencies between templated timer units?



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How can I define two systemd units so their Stop order is different than their Start order ?



For performance issue, I have both units A and B start simultaneously (they both start after a systemd socket), but unit A cannot stop before unit B










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  • Potentially you can use BindsTo or Requires to achieve this, but from your question it is unclear how exactly are you stopping the services. What exactly triggers the stopping of the services?

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  • They are both stopped when shuting the system down, so system sends a SIGTERM to both units at the same time

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How can I define two systemd units so their Stop order is different than their Start order ?



For performance issue, I have both units A and B start simultaneously (they both start after a systemd socket), but unit A cannot stop before unit B










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  • Potentially you can use BindsTo or Requires to achieve this, but from your question it is unclear how exactly are you stopping the services. What exactly triggers the stopping of the services?

    – Ektich
    Apr 15 at 10:54











  • They are both stopped when shuting the system down, so system sends a SIGTERM to both units at the same time

    – aguadoe
    Apr 15 at 13:40













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How can I define two systemd units so their Stop order is different than their Start order ?



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How can I define two systemd units so their Stop order is different than their Start order ?



For performance issue, I have both units A and B start simultaneously (they both start after a systemd socket), but unit A cannot stop before unit B







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  • Potentially you can use BindsTo or Requires to achieve this, but from your question it is unclear how exactly are you stopping the services. What exactly triggers the stopping of the services?

    – Ektich
    Apr 15 at 10:54











  • They are both stopped when shuting the system down, so system sends a SIGTERM to both units at the same time

    – aguadoe
    Apr 15 at 13:40

















  • Potentially you can use BindsTo or Requires to achieve this, but from your question it is unclear how exactly are you stopping the services. What exactly triggers the stopping of the services?

    – Ektich
    Apr 15 at 10:54











  • They are both stopped when shuting the system down, so system sends a SIGTERM to both units at the same time

    – aguadoe
    Apr 15 at 13:40
















Potentially you can use BindsTo or Requires to achieve this, but from your question it is unclear how exactly are you stopping the services. What exactly triggers the stopping of the services?

– Ektich
Apr 15 at 10:54





Potentially you can use BindsTo or Requires to achieve this, but from your question it is unclear how exactly are you stopping the services. What exactly triggers the stopping of the services?

– Ektich
Apr 15 at 10:54













They are both stopped when shuting the system down, so system sends a SIGTERM to both units at the same time

– aguadoe
Apr 15 at 13:40





They are both stopped when shuting the system down, so system sends a SIGTERM to both units at the same time

– aguadoe
Apr 15 at 13:40










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Nope. If B contains After=A, A starts first, and B stops first.



What the service manager waits for when starting A depends on the Type. Reference possible types in the systemd.service manual. In particular, simple doesn't even wait for the exec(), but forking waits for the parent process to exit.



If performance is what you are after, naturally there are multiple competing tools for timing the start of units, systemd-analyze and bootchart. Determine the maximum startup time you can tolerate, then measure how long it actually takes.



For further improvements, profile this thing in detail and look at its code.






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  • the units can be linked with Requires= or BindsTo=. according to documentation, it does not fix the order in which services are started, but influences how they are stopped. (as in, stopping of one of them triggers the stopping of the other)

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Nope. If B contains After=A, A starts first, and B stops first.



What the service manager waits for when starting A depends on the Type. Reference possible types in the systemd.service manual. In particular, simple doesn't even wait for the exec(), but forking waits for the parent process to exit.



If performance is what you are after, naturally there are multiple competing tools for timing the start of units, systemd-analyze and bootchart. Determine the maximum startup time you can tolerate, then measure how long it actually takes.



For further improvements, profile this thing in detail and look at its code.






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  • the units can be linked with Requires= or BindsTo=. according to documentation, it does not fix the order in which services are started, but influences how they are stopped. (as in, stopping of one of them triggers the stopping of the other)

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Nope. If B contains After=A, A starts first, and B stops first.



What the service manager waits for when starting A depends on the Type. Reference possible types in the systemd.service manual. In particular, simple doesn't even wait for the exec(), but forking waits for the parent process to exit.



If performance is what you are after, naturally there are multiple competing tools for timing the start of units, systemd-analyze and bootchart. Determine the maximum startup time you can tolerate, then measure how long it actually takes.



For further improvements, profile this thing in detail and look at its code.






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  • the units can be linked with Requires= or BindsTo=. according to documentation, it does not fix the order in which services are started, but influences how they are stopped. (as in, stopping of one of them triggers the stopping of the other)

    – Ektich
    Apr 15 at 10:56













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Nope. If B contains After=A, A starts first, and B stops first.



What the service manager waits for when starting A depends on the Type. Reference possible types in the systemd.service manual. In particular, simple doesn't even wait for the exec(), but forking waits for the parent process to exit.



If performance is what you are after, naturally there are multiple competing tools for timing the start of units, systemd-analyze and bootchart. Determine the maximum startup time you can tolerate, then measure how long it actually takes.



For further improvements, profile this thing in detail and look at its code.






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Nope. If B contains After=A, A starts first, and B stops first.



What the service manager waits for when starting A depends on the Type. Reference possible types in the systemd.service manual. In particular, simple doesn't even wait for the exec(), but forking waits for the parent process to exit.



If performance is what you are after, naturally there are multiple competing tools for timing the start of units, systemd-analyze and bootchart. Determine the maximum startup time you can tolerate, then measure how long it actually takes.



For further improvements, profile this thing in detail and look at its code.







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  • the units can be linked with Requires= or BindsTo=. according to documentation, it does not fix the order in which services are started, but influences how they are stopped. (as in, stopping of one of them triggers the stopping of the other)

    – Ektich
    Apr 15 at 10:56

















  • the units can be linked with Requires= or BindsTo=. according to documentation, it does not fix the order in which services are started, but influences how they are stopped. (as in, stopping of one of them triggers the stopping of the other)

    – Ektich
    Apr 15 at 10:56
















the units can be linked with Requires= or BindsTo=. according to documentation, it does not fix the order in which services are started, but influences how they are stopped. (as in, stopping of one of them triggers the stopping of the other)

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the units can be linked with Requires= or BindsTo=. according to documentation, it does not fix the order in which services are started, but influences how they are stopped. (as in, stopping of one of them triggers the stopping of the other)

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