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Why do protein solutions have to be alkalised in biuret test?

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I’ve read that CuSO₄ solution reacts with peptide bonds that connect amino acids to create a violet colour, but the instructions always tell me to add NaOH solution to the protein solution before I add CuSO₄. How is alkalising the protein solution before adding CuSO₄ solution an aid to this process?

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  The directions explicitly state to add the sodium hydroxide before the copper sulfate? I've never done the biuret test myself, but I can't imagine it would make a difference. Commercially available biuret reagents are sold as premixed solutions.
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I’ve read that CuSO₄ solution reacts with peptide bonds that connect amino acids to create a violet colour, but the instructions always tell me to add NaOH solution to the protein solution before I add CuSO₄. How is alkalising the protein solution before adding CuSO₄ solution an aid to this process?

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  The directions explicitly state to add the sodium hydroxide before the copper sulfate? I've never done the biuret test myself, but I can't imagine it would make a difference. Commercially available biuret reagents are sold as premixed solutions.
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I’ve read that CuSO₄ solution reacts with peptide bonds that connect amino acids to create a violet colour, but the instructions always tell me to add NaOH solution to the protein solution before I add CuSO₄. How is alkalising the protein solution before adding CuSO₄ solution an aid to this process?

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This is probably to prevent precipitation of copper hydroxide (see Itzhaki & Gill, 1964 - they suggest adding dilute copper sulfate slowly to the NaOH solution to avoid this). If you have the protein already alkalized and ready to react you'll get the color reaction before precipitate forms.

Commercial premixed solutions, like @canadianer mentioned in a comment, have tartrate present to prevent this (Geiger & Bessman, 1972 mention this).

It doesn't seem like it's strictly necessary to add NaOH first, but that's probably the most reliable way to do the assay without using an additional stabilizing agent.

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Itzhaki, R. F., & Gill, D. M. (1964). A micro-biuret method for estimating proteins. Analytical biochemistry, 9(4), 401-410.

Geiger, P. J., & Bessman, S. P. (1972). Protein determination by Lowry's method in the presence of sulfhydryl reagents. Analytical biochemistry, 49(2), 467-473.

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  Wouldn’t adding sodium hydroxide solution to copper sulfate solution encourage the formation of copper hydroxide? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper(II)_hydroxide
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  @UbaidHassan Yes exactly, which is why the OPs recipe tells them to add the hydroxide solution to the protein sample first. Might be confusing since my first reference also suggested adding copper sulfate slowly to sodium hydroxide, but that's only because the worst approach would be to add copper sulfate quickly or adding hydroxide to a concentrated copper solution. You use the same procedure with, for example calcium containing solutions that tend to form precipitate: precipitate is minimized when you keep the metal concentration low.
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You mix those two chemicals to get a Cu(OH) 2 colloid, if you mixed them earlier it would settle down and not form a colorful complex (as efficiently). Base is added first because (i presume) it denaturates the protein which partly unfolds it, allowing copper ions to form complexes along a greater surface, giving clearer results.

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This is probably to prevent precipitation of copper hydroxide (see Itzhaki & Gill, 1964 - they suggest adding dilute copper sulfate slowly to the NaOH solution to avoid this). If you have the protein already alkalized and ready to react you'll get the color reaction before precipitate forms.

Commercial premixed solutions, like @canadianer mentioned in a comment, have tartrate present to prevent this (Geiger & Bessman, 1972 mention this).

It doesn't seem like it's strictly necessary to add NaOH first, but that's probably the most reliable way to do the assay without using an additional stabilizing agent.

---

Itzhaki, R. F., & Gill, D. M. (1964). A micro-biuret method for estimating proteins. Analytical biochemistry, 9(4), 401-410.

Geiger, P. J., & Bessman, S. P. (1972). Protein determination by Lowry's method in the presence of sulfhydryl reagents. Analytical biochemistry, 49(2), 467-473.

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  Wouldn’t adding sodium hydroxide solution to copper sulfate solution encourage the formation of copper hydroxide? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper(II)_hydroxide
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  @UbaidHassan Yes exactly, which is why the OPs recipe tells them to add the hydroxide solution to the protein sample first. Might be confusing since my first reference also suggested adding copper sulfate slowly to sodium hydroxide, but that's only because the worst approach would be to add copper sulfate quickly or adding hydroxide to a concentrated copper solution. You use the same procedure with, for example calcium containing solutions that tend to form precipitate: precipitate is minimized when you keep the metal concentration low.
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This is probably to prevent precipitation of copper hydroxide (see Itzhaki & Gill, 1964 - they suggest adding dilute copper sulfate slowly to the NaOH solution to avoid this). If you have the protein already alkalized and ready to react you'll get the color reaction before precipitate forms.

Commercial premixed solutions, like @canadianer mentioned in a comment, have tartrate present to prevent this (Geiger & Bessman, 1972 mention this).

It doesn't seem like it's strictly necessary to add NaOH first, but that's probably the most reliable way to do the assay without using an additional stabilizing agent.

---

Itzhaki, R. F., & Gill, D. M. (1964). A micro-biuret method for estimating proteins. Analytical biochemistry, 9(4), 401-410.

Geiger, P. J., & Bessman, S. P. (1972). Protein determination by Lowry's method in the presence of sulfhydryl reagents. Analytical biochemistry, 49(2), 467-473.

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  Wouldn’t adding sodium hydroxide solution to copper sulfate solution encourage the formation of copper hydroxide? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper(II)_hydroxide
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  @UbaidHassan Yes exactly, which is why the OPs recipe tells them to add the hydroxide solution to the protein sample first. Might be confusing since my first reference also suggested adding copper sulfate slowly to sodium hydroxide, but that's only because the worst approach would be to add copper sulfate quickly or adding hydroxide to a concentrated copper solution. You use the same procedure with, for example calcium containing solutions that tend to form precipitate: precipitate is minimized when you keep the metal concentration low.
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This is probably to prevent precipitation of copper hydroxide (see Itzhaki & Gill, 1964 - they suggest adding dilute copper sulfate slowly to the NaOH solution to avoid this). If you have the protein already alkalized and ready to react you'll get the color reaction before precipitate forms.

Commercial premixed solutions, like @canadianer mentioned in a comment, have tartrate present to prevent this (Geiger & Bessman, 1972 mention this).

It doesn't seem like it's strictly necessary to add NaOH first, but that's probably the most reliable way to do the assay without using an additional stabilizing agent.

---

Itzhaki, R. F., & Gill, D. M. (1964). A micro-biuret method for estimating proteins. Analytical biochemistry, 9(4), 401-410.

Geiger, P. J., & Bessman, S. P. (1972). Protein determination by Lowry's method in the presence of sulfhydryl reagents. Analytical biochemistry, 49(2), 467-473.

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You mix those two chemicals to get a Cu(OH) 2 colloid, if you mixed them earlier it would settle down and not form a colorful complex (as efficiently). Base is added first because (i presume) it denaturates the protein which partly unfolds it, allowing copper ions to form complexes along a greater surface, giving clearer results.

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answered May 9 at 23:33

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You mix those two chemicals to get a Cu(OH) 2 colloid, if you mixed them earlier it would settle down and not form a colorful complex (as efficiently). Base is added first because (i presume) it denaturates the protein which partly unfolds it, allowing copper ions to form complexes along a greater surface, giving clearer results.

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answered May 9 at 23:33

Francis L.Francis L.

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You mix those two chemicals to get a Cu(OH) 2 colloid, if you mixed them earlier it would settle down and not form a colorful complex (as efficiently). Base is added first because (i presume) it denaturates the protein which partly unfolds it, allowing copper ions to form complexes along a greater surface, giving clearer results.

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answered May 9 at 23:33

Francis L.Francis L.

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answered May 9 at 23:33

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answered May 9 at 23:33

Francis L.Francis L.

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answered May 9 at 23:33

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