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The meaning of “à force”



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Tu habites ici depuis un bon moment déjà. J'imagine que toi, tu connais la ville par cœur, à force !




I just picked up this phrase in conversation. Is it close in meaning to "forcément"?










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    Tu habites ici depuis un bon moment déjà. J'imagine que toi, tu connais la ville par cœur, à force !




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      I just picked up this phrase in conversation. Is it close in meaning to "forcément"?







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          à force


          is used in reaction to something said before that the person is doing often or regularly or happened multiple time which would be the cause of something else



          It can be translated by "to end up"



          - Je vais faire du vélo tout les jour pour aller au travail
          - Tu va être musclé à force

          - I'm going to cycle to work every day
          - You'll end up super muscular


          Or it's like making a general statement about a possible future



          - C'est la troisième fois que je tombe dans les escaliers
          - Tu vas te casser une jambe à force

          - That's the third time I fall in the stairs
          - That's how you'll break your leg


          Can also be used ironically



          - Papa, tu peux me filer 10 euro pour mon déjeuner
          - Tu va me ruiner à force

          - Dad, can you give me 10 euro for my lunch
          - You'll ruin me





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            I wouldn't say that it is close in meaning to "forcément" (which is a bit like "of course") even if it has the same origin (force = strength). This comes from "à force de", used as a preposition but, in this case, there is an "ellipse". So the original sentence should be something like, e.g.




            J'imagine que tu connais bien la ville à force de la parcourir à pied tous les jours.




            That being said, "à force de" means "by doing a lot of", "by making a lot of effort for". In your sentence, this would mean that the person has spent a long time in the city or something like that (because of the "ellipse", it is not possible to know exactly what is meant without a bit of context). For instance, it could also be "à force de lire tous les guides touristiques que tu trouves".






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            • Interesting. From the get-go, I ruled out the possibility that it had anything to do with "à force de", but as it has turned out, it does. Somehow, I'd never heard "à force" before.

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            La locution adverbiale à force est synonyme de à la longue (TLFi) ou par des efforts répétés (Larousse en ligne). Ac.9 indique vieilli pour au moins le sens extrêmement.




            De plus, en menaçant toujours sans frapper jamais, à force, on aura
            fait le jeu de l'Allemagne. (Jaurès, au TLFi)







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            • Ça se rapproche de la nature de forcément... parce que c'est un adverbe...

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            I would say it is a popular expression, to emphasize repeated or long-term duration events.




            "À force de faire ça, tu vas ... " -> "Doing that again and again, you will ... "




            In your example :
            "Tu connais la ville par cœur, à force." -> implicitely means "You know the town by heart, ... living here for such a long time" , but it could also mean "You know the town by heart ... visiting it again and again", etc. depending on the context.



            Actually, it is a quite ambiguous expression, so don't worry if it is confusing, as it can be for french people as well, but we are so used to it that we don't even ask ourselves questions about it. :-)






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              Ça vient du sens .3 de à force de




              En refaisant, en faisant beaucoup




              Ici, le [de + infinitif] est sous-entendu. C'était probablement évoqué plus tôt dans la conversation (à force de travailler ici, à force de la visiter, ...) mais on peut souvent le déduire du contexte.



              Autre exemple. Ces deux phrases ont grosso modo le même sens :




              À force de l'écouter tous les jours, je connais les paroles par cœur.



              Je l'écoute tous les jours, je connais les paroles par cœur, à force.







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              • Okay, maybe something like this, then? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. Il va finir par y laisser la santé, à force !"

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              • @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yep exactly!

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              • Can you place the phrase at the head, not at the end? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. À force, il va finir par y laisser la santé."

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              • @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yes of course

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              No, it's not close to "forcément"; "à force" is an elliptic phrase which is more often, if not to say more properly, formulated as "à force de X"; this is rendered in English by "by dint of X".



              A preferable phrase would be specific ;



              • à force de trainer dans les rues

              • à force d'en sillonner les rues

              • à force d'y travailler avec ton taxi


              The elliptic form can be used when the omitted part has just been discussed or mentioned;



              • Ils vous changent de quartier régulièrement alors, tu ne distribues jamais le courrier trop longtemps dans le même quartier ; tu dois connaitre la ville par cœur, à force. (à force de faire de nouveaux quartiers.)

              If we were to say "J'imagine que toi, tu connais la ville par cœur, forcément !", what would be meant is that one of the reasons for knowing well the streets (X), a reason the interlocutors are clearly aware of in the given context but that they haven't necessarily stated in the conversation, makes inescapable a thorough knowledge of the city.



              "Forcément" means "necessarily", "inevitably".






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                à force


                is used in reaction to something said before that the person is doing often or regularly or happened multiple time which would be the cause of something else



                It can be translated by "to end up"



                - Je vais faire du vélo tout les jour pour aller au travail
                - Tu va être musclé à force

                - I'm going to cycle to work every day
                - You'll end up super muscular


                Or it's like making a general statement about a possible future



                - C'est la troisième fois que je tombe dans les escaliers
                - Tu vas te casser une jambe à force

                - That's the third time I fall in the stairs
                - That's how you'll break your leg


                Can also be used ironically



                - Papa, tu peux me filer 10 euro pour mon déjeuner
                - Tu va me ruiner à force

                - Dad, can you give me 10 euro for my lunch
                - You'll ruin me





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                  à force


                  is used in reaction to something said before that the person is doing often or regularly or happened multiple time which would be the cause of something else



                  It can be translated by "to end up"



                  - Je vais faire du vélo tout les jour pour aller au travail
                  - Tu va être musclé à force

                  - I'm going to cycle to work every day
                  - You'll end up super muscular


                  Or it's like making a general statement about a possible future



                  - C'est la troisième fois que je tombe dans les escaliers
                  - Tu vas te casser une jambe à force

                  - That's the third time I fall in the stairs
                  - That's how you'll break your leg


                  Can also be used ironically



                  - Papa, tu peux me filer 10 euro pour mon déjeuner
                  - Tu va me ruiner à force

                  - Dad, can you give me 10 euro for my lunch
                  - You'll ruin me





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                    à force


                    is used in reaction to something said before that the person is doing often or regularly or happened multiple time which would be the cause of something else



                    It can be translated by "to end up"



                    - Je vais faire du vélo tout les jour pour aller au travail
                    - Tu va être musclé à force

                    - I'm going to cycle to work every day
                    - You'll end up super muscular


                    Or it's like making a general statement about a possible future



                    - C'est la troisième fois que je tombe dans les escaliers
                    - Tu vas te casser une jambe à force

                    - That's the third time I fall in the stairs
                    - That's how you'll break your leg


                    Can also be used ironically



                    - Papa, tu peux me filer 10 euro pour mon déjeuner
                    - Tu va me ruiner à force

                    - Dad, can you give me 10 euro for my lunch
                    - You'll ruin me





                    share|improve this answer













                    à force


                    is used in reaction to something said before that the person is doing often or regularly or happened multiple time which would be the cause of something else



                    It can be translated by "to end up"



                    - Je vais faire du vélo tout les jour pour aller au travail
                    - Tu va être musclé à force

                    - I'm going to cycle to work every day
                    - You'll end up super muscular


                    Or it's like making a general statement about a possible future



                    - C'est la troisième fois que je tombe dans les escaliers
                    - Tu vas te casser une jambe à force

                    - That's the third time I fall in the stairs
                    - That's how you'll break your leg


                    Can also be used ironically



                    - Papa, tu peux me filer 10 euro pour mon déjeuner
                    - Tu va me ruiner à force

                    - Dad, can you give me 10 euro for my lunch
                    - You'll ruin me






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                        I wouldn't say that it is close in meaning to "forcément" (which is a bit like "of course") even if it has the same origin (force = strength). This comes from "à force de", used as a preposition but, in this case, there is an "ellipse". So the original sentence should be something like, e.g.




                        J'imagine que tu connais bien la ville à force de la parcourir à pied tous les jours.




                        That being said, "à force de" means "by doing a lot of", "by making a lot of effort for". In your sentence, this would mean that the person has spent a long time in the city or something like that (because of the "ellipse", it is not possible to know exactly what is meant without a bit of context). For instance, it could also be "à force de lire tous les guides touristiques que tu trouves".






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                        • Interesting. From the get-go, I ruled out the possibility that it had anything to do with "à force de", but as it has turned out, it does. Somehow, I'd never heard "à force" before.

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                        I wouldn't say that it is close in meaning to "forcément" (which is a bit like "of course") even if it has the same origin (force = strength). This comes from "à force de", used as a preposition but, in this case, there is an "ellipse". So the original sentence should be something like, e.g.




                        J'imagine que tu connais bien la ville à force de la parcourir à pied tous les jours.




                        That being said, "à force de" means "by doing a lot of", "by making a lot of effort for". In your sentence, this would mean that the person has spent a long time in the city or something like that (because of the "ellipse", it is not possible to know exactly what is meant without a bit of context). For instance, it could also be "à force de lire tous les guides touristiques que tu trouves".






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                        • Interesting. From the get-go, I ruled out the possibility that it had anything to do with "à force de", but as it has turned out, it does. Somehow, I'd never heard "à force" before.

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                        I wouldn't say that it is close in meaning to "forcément" (which is a bit like "of course") even if it has the same origin (force = strength). This comes from "à force de", used as a preposition but, in this case, there is an "ellipse". So the original sentence should be something like, e.g.




                        J'imagine que tu connais bien la ville à force de la parcourir à pied tous les jours.




                        That being said, "à force de" means "by doing a lot of", "by making a lot of effort for". In your sentence, this would mean that the person has spent a long time in the city or something like that (because of the "ellipse", it is not possible to know exactly what is meant without a bit of context). For instance, it could also be "à force de lire tous les guides touristiques que tu trouves".






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                        I wouldn't say that it is close in meaning to "forcément" (which is a bit like "of course") even if it has the same origin (force = strength). This comes from "à force de", used as a preposition but, in this case, there is an "ellipse". So the original sentence should be something like, e.g.




                        J'imagine que tu connais bien la ville à force de la parcourir à pied tous les jours.




                        That being said, "à force de" means "by doing a lot of", "by making a lot of effort for". In your sentence, this would mean that the person has spent a long time in the city or something like that (because of the "ellipse", it is not possible to know exactly what is meant without a bit of context). For instance, it could also be "à force de lire tous les guides touristiques que tu trouves".







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                        • Interesting. From the get-go, I ruled out the possibility that it had anything to do with "à force de", but as it has turned out, it does. Somehow, I'd never heard "à force" before.

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                        • Interesting. From the get-go, I ruled out the possibility that it had anything to do with "à force de", but as it has turned out, it does. Somehow, I'd never heard "à force" before.

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                        Interesting. From the get-go, I ruled out the possibility that it had anything to do with "à force de", but as it has turned out, it does. Somehow, I'd never heard "à force" before.

                        – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
                        Apr 9 at 15:32





                        Interesting. From the get-go, I ruled out the possibility that it had anything to do with "à force de", but as it has turned out, it does. Somehow, I'd never heard "à force" before.

                        – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
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                        La locution adverbiale à force est synonyme de à la longue (TLFi) ou par des efforts répétés (Larousse en ligne). Ac.9 indique vieilli pour au moins le sens extrêmement.




                        De plus, en menaçant toujours sans frapper jamais, à force, on aura
                        fait le jeu de l'Allemagne. (Jaurès, au TLFi)







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                        • Ça se rapproche de la nature de forcément... parce que c'est un adverbe...

                          – Survenant9r7
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                        La locution adverbiale à force est synonyme de à la longue (TLFi) ou par des efforts répétés (Larousse en ligne). Ac.9 indique vieilli pour au moins le sens extrêmement.




                        De plus, en menaçant toujours sans frapper jamais, à force, on aura
                        fait le jeu de l'Allemagne. (Jaurès, au TLFi)







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                        • Ça se rapproche de la nature de forcément... parce que c'est un adverbe...

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                        La locution adverbiale à force est synonyme de à la longue (TLFi) ou par des efforts répétés (Larousse en ligne). Ac.9 indique vieilli pour au moins le sens extrêmement.




                        De plus, en menaçant toujours sans frapper jamais, à force, on aura
                        fait le jeu de l'Allemagne. (Jaurès, au TLFi)







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                        La locution adverbiale à force est synonyme de à la longue (TLFi) ou par des efforts répétés (Larousse en ligne). Ac.9 indique vieilli pour au moins le sens extrêmement.




                        De plus, en menaçant toujours sans frapper jamais, à force, on aura
                        fait le jeu de l'Allemagne. (Jaurès, au TLFi)








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                        • Ça se rapproche de la nature de forcément... parce que c'est un adverbe...

                          – Survenant9r7
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                        • Ça se rapproche de la nature de forcément... parce que c'est un adverbe...

                          – Survenant9r7
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                        Ça se rapproche de la nature de forcément... parce que c'est un adverbe...

                        – Survenant9r7
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                        Ça se rapproche de la nature de forcément... parce que c'est un adverbe...

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                        I would say it is a popular expression, to emphasize repeated or long-term duration events.




                        "À force de faire ça, tu vas ... " -> "Doing that again and again, you will ... "




                        In your example :
                        "Tu connais la ville par cœur, à force." -> implicitely means "You know the town by heart, ... living here for such a long time" , but it could also mean "You know the town by heart ... visiting it again and again", etc. depending on the context.



                        Actually, it is a quite ambiguous expression, so don't worry if it is confusing, as it can be for french people as well, but we are so used to it that we don't even ask ourselves questions about it. :-)






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                          I would say it is a popular expression, to emphasize repeated or long-term duration events.




                          "À force de faire ça, tu vas ... " -> "Doing that again and again, you will ... "




                          In your example :
                          "Tu connais la ville par cœur, à force." -> implicitely means "You know the town by heart, ... living here for such a long time" , but it could also mean "You know the town by heart ... visiting it again and again", etc. depending on the context.



                          Actually, it is a quite ambiguous expression, so don't worry if it is confusing, as it can be for french people as well, but we are so used to it that we don't even ask ourselves questions about it. :-)






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                            I would say it is a popular expression, to emphasize repeated or long-term duration events.




                            "À force de faire ça, tu vas ... " -> "Doing that again and again, you will ... "




                            In your example :
                            "Tu connais la ville par cœur, à force." -> implicitely means "You know the town by heart, ... living here for such a long time" , but it could also mean "You know the town by heart ... visiting it again and again", etc. depending on the context.



                            Actually, it is a quite ambiguous expression, so don't worry if it is confusing, as it can be for french people as well, but we are so used to it that we don't even ask ourselves questions about it. :-)






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                            I would say it is a popular expression, to emphasize repeated or long-term duration events.




                            "À force de faire ça, tu vas ... " -> "Doing that again and again, you will ... "




                            In your example :
                            "Tu connais la ville par cœur, à force." -> implicitely means "You know the town by heart, ... living here for such a long time" , but it could also mean "You know the town by heart ... visiting it again and again", etc. depending on the context.



                            Actually, it is a quite ambiguous expression, so don't worry if it is confusing, as it can be for french people as well, but we are so used to it that we don't even ask ourselves questions about it. :-)







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                                Ça vient du sens .3 de à force de




                                En refaisant, en faisant beaucoup




                                Ici, le [de + infinitif] est sous-entendu. C'était probablement évoqué plus tôt dans la conversation (à force de travailler ici, à force de la visiter, ...) mais on peut souvent le déduire du contexte.



                                Autre exemple. Ces deux phrases ont grosso modo le même sens :




                                À force de l'écouter tous les jours, je connais les paroles par cœur.



                                Je l'écoute tous les jours, je connais les paroles par cœur, à force.







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                                • Okay, maybe something like this, then? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. Il va finir par y laisser la santé, à force !"

                                  – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
                                  Apr 9 at 15:55











                                • @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yep exactly!

                                  – Teleporting Goat
                                  Apr 9 at 16:27











                                • Can you place the phrase at the head, not at the end? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. À force, il va finir par y laisser la santé."

                                  – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
                                  Apr 9 at 16:39











                                • @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yes of course

                                  – Teleporting Goat
                                  Apr 9 at 17:56















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                                Ça vient du sens .3 de à force de




                                En refaisant, en faisant beaucoup




                                Ici, le [de + infinitif] est sous-entendu. C'était probablement évoqué plus tôt dans la conversation (à force de travailler ici, à force de la visiter, ...) mais on peut souvent le déduire du contexte.



                                Autre exemple. Ces deux phrases ont grosso modo le même sens :




                                À force de l'écouter tous les jours, je connais les paroles par cœur.



                                Je l'écoute tous les jours, je connais les paroles par cœur, à force.







                                share|improve this answer























                                • Okay, maybe something like this, then? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. Il va finir par y laisser la santé, à force !"

                                  – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
                                  Apr 9 at 15:55











                                • @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yep exactly!

                                  – Teleporting Goat
                                  Apr 9 at 16:27











                                • Can you place the phrase at the head, not at the end? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. À force, il va finir par y laisser la santé."

                                  – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
                                  Apr 9 at 16:39











                                • @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yes of course

                                  – Teleporting Goat
                                  Apr 9 at 17:56













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                                Ça vient du sens .3 de à force de




                                En refaisant, en faisant beaucoup




                                Ici, le [de + infinitif] est sous-entendu. C'était probablement évoqué plus tôt dans la conversation (à force de travailler ici, à force de la visiter, ...) mais on peut souvent le déduire du contexte.



                                Autre exemple. Ces deux phrases ont grosso modo le même sens :




                                À force de l'écouter tous les jours, je connais les paroles par cœur.



                                Je l'écoute tous les jours, je connais les paroles par cœur, à force.







                                share|improve this answer













                                Ça vient du sens .3 de à force de




                                En refaisant, en faisant beaucoup




                                Ici, le [de + infinitif] est sous-entendu. C'était probablement évoqué plus tôt dans la conversation (à force de travailler ici, à force de la visiter, ...) mais on peut souvent le déduire du contexte.



                                Autre exemple. Ces deux phrases ont grosso modo le même sens :




                                À force de l'écouter tous les jours, je connais les paroles par cœur.



                                Je l'écoute tous les jours, je connais les paroles par cœur, à force.








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                                • Okay, maybe something like this, then? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. Il va finir par y laisser la santé, à force !"

                                  – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
                                  Apr 9 at 15:55











                                • @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yep exactly!

                                  – Teleporting Goat
                                  Apr 9 at 16:27











                                • Can you place the phrase at the head, not at the end? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. À force, il va finir par y laisser la santé."

                                  – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
                                  Apr 9 at 16:39











                                • @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yes of course

                                  – Teleporting Goat
                                  Apr 9 at 17:56

















                                • Okay, maybe something like this, then? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. Il va finir par y laisser la santé, à force !"

                                  – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
                                  Apr 9 at 15:55











                                • @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yep exactly!

                                  – Teleporting Goat
                                  Apr 9 at 16:27











                                • Can you place the phrase at the head, not at the end? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. À force, il va finir par y laisser la santé."

                                  – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
                                  Apr 9 at 16:39











                                • @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yes of course

                                  – Teleporting Goat
                                  Apr 9 at 17:56
















                                Okay, maybe something like this, then? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. Il va finir par y laisser la santé, à force !"

                                – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
                                Apr 9 at 15:55





                                Okay, maybe something like this, then? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. Il va finir par y laisser la santé, à force !"

                                – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
                                Apr 9 at 15:55













                                @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yep exactly!

                                – Teleporting Goat
                                Apr 9 at 16:27





                                @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yep exactly!

                                – Teleporting Goat
                                Apr 9 at 16:27













                                Can you place the phrase at the head, not at the end? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. À force, il va finir par y laisser la santé."

                                – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
                                Apr 9 at 16:39





                                Can you place the phrase at the head, not at the end? "Entre le travail de nuit et le reste, il court à droite et à gauche. À force, il va finir par y laisser la santé."

                                – Con-gras-tue-les-chiens
                                Apr 9 at 16:39













                                @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yes of course

                                – Teleporting Goat
                                Apr 9 at 17:56





                                @Con-gras-tue-les-chiens Yes of course

                                – Teleporting Goat
                                Apr 9 at 17:56











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                                No, it's not close to "forcément"; "à force" is an elliptic phrase which is more often, if not to say more properly, formulated as "à force de X"; this is rendered in English by "by dint of X".



                                A preferable phrase would be specific ;



                                • à force de trainer dans les rues

                                • à force d'en sillonner les rues

                                • à force d'y travailler avec ton taxi


                                The elliptic form can be used when the omitted part has just been discussed or mentioned;



                                • Ils vous changent de quartier régulièrement alors, tu ne distribues jamais le courrier trop longtemps dans le même quartier ; tu dois connaitre la ville par cœur, à force. (à force de faire de nouveaux quartiers.)

                                If we were to say "J'imagine que toi, tu connais la ville par cœur, forcément !", what would be meant is that one of the reasons for knowing well the streets (X), a reason the interlocutors are clearly aware of in the given context but that they haven't necessarily stated in the conversation, makes inescapable a thorough knowledge of the city.



                                "Forcément" means "necessarily", "inevitably".






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                                  No, it's not close to "forcément"; "à force" is an elliptic phrase which is more often, if not to say more properly, formulated as "à force de X"; this is rendered in English by "by dint of X".



                                  A preferable phrase would be specific ;



                                  • à force de trainer dans les rues

                                  • à force d'en sillonner les rues

                                  • à force d'y travailler avec ton taxi


                                  The elliptic form can be used when the omitted part has just been discussed or mentioned;



                                  • Ils vous changent de quartier régulièrement alors, tu ne distribues jamais le courrier trop longtemps dans le même quartier ; tu dois connaitre la ville par cœur, à force. (à force de faire de nouveaux quartiers.)

                                  If we were to say "J'imagine que toi, tu connais la ville par cœur, forcément !", what would be meant is that one of the reasons for knowing well the streets (X), a reason the interlocutors are clearly aware of in the given context but that they haven't necessarily stated in the conversation, makes inescapable a thorough knowledge of the city.



                                  "Forcément" means "necessarily", "inevitably".






                                  share|improve this answer



























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                                    No, it's not close to "forcément"; "à force" is an elliptic phrase which is more often, if not to say more properly, formulated as "à force de X"; this is rendered in English by "by dint of X".



                                    A preferable phrase would be specific ;



                                    • à force de trainer dans les rues

                                    • à force d'en sillonner les rues

                                    • à force d'y travailler avec ton taxi


                                    The elliptic form can be used when the omitted part has just been discussed or mentioned;



                                    • Ils vous changent de quartier régulièrement alors, tu ne distribues jamais le courrier trop longtemps dans le même quartier ; tu dois connaitre la ville par cœur, à force. (à force de faire de nouveaux quartiers.)

                                    If we were to say "J'imagine que toi, tu connais la ville par cœur, forcément !", what would be meant is that one of the reasons for knowing well the streets (X), a reason the interlocutors are clearly aware of in the given context but that they haven't necessarily stated in the conversation, makes inescapable a thorough knowledge of the city.



                                    "Forcément" means "necessarily", "inevitably".






                                    share|improve this answer















                                    No, it's not close to "forcément"; "à force" is an elliptic phrase which is more often, if not to say more properly, formulated as "à force de X"; this is rendered in English by "by dint of X".



                                    A preferable phrase would be specific ;



                                    • à force de trainer dans les rues

                                    • à force d'en sillonner les rues

                                    • à force d'y travailler avec ton taxi


                                    The elliptic form can be used when the omitted part has just been discussed or mentioned;



                                    • Ils vous changent de quartier régulièrement alors, tu ne distribues jamais le courrier trop longtemps dans le même quartier ; tu dois connaitre la ville par cœur, à force. (à force de faire de nouveaux quartiers.)

                                    If we were to say "J'imagine que toi, tu connais la ville par cœur, forcément !", what would be meant is that one of the reasons for knowing well the streets (X), a reason the interlocutors are clearly aware of in the given context but that they haven't necessarily stated in the conversation, makes inescapable a thorough knowledge of the city.



                                    "Forcément" means "necessarily", "inevitably".







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