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Why does the remaining Rebel fleet at the end of Rogue One seem dramatically larger than the one in A New Hope?


Why the name 'Rogue One'?Why was Vader talking about “Rebel transmissions” in Episode IV when he saw the data tape being passed in Rogue One?Does Rogue One create a plot hole in Return of the Jedi re Hyperspace Radio?Why weren't the capital ships firing?Why does the Empire need Leia to give them the location of the rebel base?Why did Vader go ahead of the stormtroopers when attempting to board the Tantive IV in Rogue One?Why doesn't the Empire employ Death Troopers other than during the events of “Rogue One”?How does the Rebel fleet at Endor compare to that at Scarif?How did Vader know the Tantive IV went to Tatooine at the end of Rogue One?Why did Vader board the disabled Rebel flagship at the end of Rogue One?






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    The advent of computer graphics. When ANH was filmed, every spaceship seen required its own physical model. For Rogue One, they could just copy-and-paste digital models.

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    The advent of computer graphics. When ANH was filmed, every spaceship seen required its own physical model. For Rogue One, they could just copy-and-paste digital models.

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    The advent of computer graphics. When ANH was filmed, every spaceship seen required its own physical model. For Rogue One, they could just copy-and-paste digital models.

    – Mark
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  • @Mark Even then, you can do composited video with the models you do have.

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    The advent of computer graphics. When ANH was filmed, every spaceship seen required its own physical model. For Rogue One, they could just copy-and-paste digital models.

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    Apr 18 at 19:58












  • @Mark Even then, you can do composited video with the models you do have.

    – JAB
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The advent of computer graphics. When ANH was filmed, every spaceship seen required its own physical model. For Rogue One, they could just copy-and-paste digital models.

– Mark
Apr 18 at 19:58






The advent of computer graphics. When ANH was filmed, every spaceship seen required its own physical model. For Rogue One, they could just copy-and-paste digital models.

– Mark
Apr 18 at 19:58














@Mark Even then, you can do composited video with the models you do have.

– JAB
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@Mark Even then, you can do composited video with the models you do have.

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General Dodonna essentially answers this question during the briefing:




The battle station is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater
than half the star fleet. It's defenses are designed around a direct
large-scale assault
. A small one-man fighter should be able to
penetrate the outer defense.




Knowing that the Death Star is on the way to the Rebel base, and knowing that a direct assault would be a useless waste of resources, the battle plan sticks exclusively to only those resources that have a chance of making any difference. Also - all of the capital ships didn't necessarily make it to Yavin 4:




"The remaining Alliance forces on Yavin 4 were a ragtag
collection....almost no capital ships had survived the battle at
Scarif
"



- Sparks: From a Certain Point of View




Though it does appear that some ships did escape Yavin 4 prior to the battle:




"[I] Don't think they're planning to evacuate," Quersey said. "Most of
the equipment left with the fleet. It's all in the hands of the pilots
upstairs."



- Duty Roster: From a Certain Point of View







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    We don't see the Rebel Fleet in A New Hope, there are no Captial ship or Escorts that feature in the film.



    Apart from the Tantive IV that is captured at the start of the film of course.



    We only see the forces posted on Yavin, it's possible that a portion of the remaining Rebel forces fighters are with the larger ships and only some on Yavin.






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      ANH does not show a capital rebel fleet at any point, because it is simply not involved, for good reason.



      After analyzing the Death Stars plans, General Dodonna says in the briefing:




      The battle station is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater than half the star fleet. It's defenses are designed around a direct large-scale assault. A small one-man fighter should be able to penetrate the outer defense. [...] An analysis of the plans provided by Princess Leia has demonstrated a weakness in the battle station. [...] You are required to maneuver straight down this trench and skim the surface to this point.




      Rebel pilots were skeptical that the shot that was needed to destroy the DS was at all possible ("That's impossible, even for a computer.").



      The rebel leaders aren't stupid. At this point they know that attacking the DS with a capital fleet is just suicide. They've witnessed the destructive power at Scarif. That is why they chose to go another route and only send in small fighters, mainly X-Wings and Y-Wings:



      Attacking the DS



      In this shot, we do not see any capital ships involved in the attack – only small fighters – as the trench run was only possible with small fighters and capital ships would just have been target practice for the DS.



      Furthermore it doesn't look like there was much left of the rebel fleet that participated at Scarif. Leias blockade runner barely escaped the fray at the end of Rogue One with most of the fleet destroyed, which is confirmed in a short story:




      The remaining Alliance forces on Yavin 4 were a ragtag collection of starfighters and light cruisers – almost no capital ships had survived the battle at Scarif.
      — Sparks: From a Certain Point of View




      Thus, the rebels use only the instruments that actually have a chance to make a difference, without using any capital ships that may or might not be present at Yavin in a guaranteed suicide mission.






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      • this is pretty the exact same thing as my answer :

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        @NKCampbell They are somewhat similar, but I like the visual guidance with the image that shows the difference between Scarif and Yavin very clearly (one is an engagement with capitals, the other with fighters).

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      There is a large time gap between episode 4 and Rogue One. During this time, it is entirely possible that other battles have weakened the rebel fleet.






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        Rogue One ends with Vader kicking ass and taking names while trying to recover the plans moments before Leia's ship escapes, in which moment Episode IV literally starts. Did you miss that?

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      General Dodonna essentially answers this question during the briefing:




      The battle station is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater
      than half the star fleet. It's defenses are designed around a direct
      large-scale assault
      . A small one-man fighter should be able to
      penetrate the outer defense.




      Knowing that the Death Star is on the way to the Rebel base, and knowing that a direct assault would be a useless waste of resources, the battle plan sticks exclusively to only those resources that have a chance of making any difference. Also - all of the capital ships didn't necessarily make it to Yavin 4:




      "The remaining Alliance forces on Yavin 4 were a ragtag
      collection....almost no capital ships had survived the battle at
      Scarif
      "



      - Sparks: From a Certain Point of View




      Though it does appear that some ships did escape Yavin 4 prior to the battle:




      "[I] Don't think they're planning to evacuate," Quersey said. "Most of
      the equipment left with the fleet. It's all in the hands of the pilots
      upstairs."



      - Duty Roster: From a Certain Point of View







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        General Dodonna essentially answers this question during the briefing:




        The battle station is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater
        than half the star fleet. It's defenses are designed around a direct
        large-scale assault
        . A small one-man fighter should be able to
        penetrate the outer defense.




        Knowing that the Death Star is on the way to the Rebel base, and knowing that a direct assault would be a useless waste of resources, the battle plan sticks exclusively to only those resources that have a chance of making any difference. Also - all of the capital ships didn't necessarily make it to Yavin 4:




        "The remaining Alliance forces on Yavin 4 were a ragtag
        collection....almost no capital ships had survived the battle at
        Scarif
        "



        - Sparks: From a Certain Point of View




        Though it does appear that some ships did escape Yavin 4 prior to the battle:




        "[I] Don't think they're planning to evacuate," Quersey said. "Most of
        the equipment left with the fleet. It's all in the hands of the pilots
        upstairs."



        - Duty Roster: From a Certain Point of View







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          General Dodonna essentially answers this question during the briefing:




          The battle station is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater
          than half the star fleet. It's defenses are designed around a direct
          large-scale assault
          . A small one-man fighter should be able to
          penetrate the outer defense.




          Knowing that the Death Star is on the way to the Rebel base, and knowing that a direct assault would be a useless waste of resources, the battle plan sticks exclusively to only those resources that have a chance of making any difference. Also - all of the capital ships didn't necessarily make it to Yavin 4:




          "The remaining Alliance forces on Yavin 4 were a ragtag
          collection....almost no capital ships had survived the battle at
          Scarif
          "



          - Sparks: From a Certain Point of View




          Though it does appear that some ships did escape Yavin 4 prior to the battle:




          "[I] Don't think they're planning to evacuate," Quersey said. "Most of
          the equipment left with the fleet. It's all in the hands of the pilots
          upstairs."



          - Duty Roster: From a Certain Point of View







          share|improve this answer















          General Dodonna essentially answers this question during the briefing:




          The battle station is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater
          than half the star fleet. It's defenses are designed around a direct
          large-scale assault
          . A small one-man fighter should be able to
          penetrate the outer defense.




          Knowing that the Death Star is on the way to the Rebel base, and knowing that a direct assault would be a useless waste of resources, the battle plan sticks exclusively to only those resources that have a chance of making any difference. Also - all of the capital ships didn't necessarily make it to Yavin 4:




          "The remaining Alliance forces on Yavin 4 were a ragtag
          collection....almost no capital ships had survived the battle at
          Scarif
          "



          - Sparks: From a Certain Point of View




          Though it does appear that some ships did escape Yavin 4 prior to the battle:




          "[I] Don't think they're planning to evacuate," Quersey said. "Most of
          the equipment left with the fleet. It's all in the hands of the pilots
          upstairs."



          - Duty Roster: From a Certain Point of View








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              We don't see the Rebel Fleet in A New Hope, there are no Captial ship or Escorts that feature in the film.



              Apart from the Tantive IV that is captured at the start of the film of course.



              We only see the forces posted on Yavin, it's possible that a portion of the remaining Rebel forces fighters are with the larger ships and only some on Yavin.






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                We don't see the Rebel Fleet in A New Hope, there are no Captial ship or Escorts that feature in the film.



                Apart from the Tantive IV that is captured at the start of the film of course.



                We only see the forces posted on Yavin, it's possible that a portion of the remaining Rebel forces fighters are with the larger ships and only some on Yavin.






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                  We don't see the Rebel Fleet in A New Hope, there are no Captial ship or Escorts that feature in the film.



                  Apart from the Tantive IV that is captured at the start of the film of course.



                  We only see the forces posted on Yavin, it's possible that a portion of the remaining Rebel forces fighters are with the larger ships and only some on Yavin.






                  share|improve this answer













                  We don't see the Rebel Fleet in A New Hope, there are no Captial ship or Escorts that feature in the film.



                  Apart from the Tantive IV that is captured at the start of the film of course.



                  We only see the forces posted on Yavin, it's possible that a portion of the remaining Rebel forces fighters are with the larger ships and only some on Yavin.







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                      ANH does not show a capital rebel fleet at any point, because it is simply not involved, for good reason.



                      After analyzing the Death Stars plans, General Dodonna says in the briefing:




                      The battle station is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater than half the star fleet. It's defenses are designed around a direct large-scale assault. A small one-man fighter should be able to penetrate the outer defense. [...] An analysis of the plans provided by Princess Leia has demonstrated a weakness in the battle station. [...] You are required to maneuver straight down this trench and skim the surface to this point.




                      Rebel pilots were skeptical that the shot that was needed to destroy the DS was at all possible ("That's impossible, even for a computer.").



                      The rebel leaders aren't stupid. At this point they know that attacking the DS with a capital fleet is just suicide. They've witnessed the destructive power at Scarif. That is why they chose to go another route and only send in small fighters, mainly X-Wings and Y-Wings:



                      Attacking the DS



                      In this shot, we do not see any capital ships involved in the attack – only small fighters – as the trench run was only possible with small fighters and capital ships would just have been target practice for the DS.



                      Furthermore it doesn't look like there was much left of the rebel fleet that participated at Scarif. Leias blockade runner barely escaped the fray at the end of Rogue One with most of the fleet destroyed, which is confirmed in a short story:




                      The remaining Alliance forces on Yavin 4 were a ragtag collection of starfighters and light cruisers – almost no capital ships had survived the battle at Scarif.
                      — Sparks: From a Certain Point of View




                      Thus, the rebels use only the instruments that actually have a chance to make a difference, without using any capital ships that may or might not be present at Yavin in a guaranteed suicide mission.






                      share|improve this answer























                      • this is pretty the exact same thing as my answer :

                        – NKCampbell
                        Apr 19 at 14:06






                      • 1





                        @NKCampbell They are somewhat similar, but I like the visual guidance with the image that shows the difference between Scarif and Yavin very clearly (one is an engagement with capitals, the other with fighters).

                        – Polygnome
                        Apr 19 at 15:39















                      0














                      ANH does not show a capital rebel fleet at any point, because it is simply not involved, for good reason.



                      After analyzing the Death Stars plans, General Dodonna says in the briefing:




                      The battle station is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater than half the star fleet. It's defenses are designed around a direct large-scale assault. A small one-man fighter should be able to penetrate the outer defense. [...] An analysis of the plans provided by Princess Leia has demonstrated a weakness in the battle station. [...] You are required to maneuver straight down this trench and skim the surface to this point.




                      Rebel pilots were skeptical that the shot that was needed to destroy the DS was at all possible ("That's impossible, even for a computer.").



                      The rebel leaders aren't stupid. At this point they know that attacking the DS with a capital fleet is just suicide. They've witnessed the destructive power at Scarif. That is why they chose to go another route and only send in small fighters, mainly X-Wings and Y-Wings:



                      Attacking the DS



                      In this shot, we do not see any capital ships involved in the attack – only small fighters – as the trench run was only possible with small fighters and capital ships would just have been target practice for the DS.



                      Furthermore it doesn't look like there was much left of the rebel fleet that participated at Scarif. Leias blockade runner barely escaped the fray at the end of Rogue One with most of the fleet destroyed, which is confirmed in a short story:




                      The remaining Alliance forces on Yavin 4 were a ragtag collection of starfighters and light cruisers – almost no capital ships had survived the battle at Scarif.
                      — Sparks: From a Certain Point of View




                      Thus, the rebels use only the instruments that actually have a chance to make a difference, without using any capital ships that may or might not be present at Yavin in a guaranteed suicide mission.






                      share|improve this answer























                      • this is pretty the exact same thing as my answer :

                        – NKCampbell
                        Apr 19 at 14:06






                      • 1





                        @NKCampbell They are somewhat similar, but I like the visual guidance with the image that shows the difference between Scarif and Yavin very clearly (one is an engagement with capitals, the other with fighters).

                        – Polygnome
                        Apr 19 at 15:39













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                      ANH does not show a capital rebel fleet at any point, because it is simply not involved, for good reason.



                      After analyzing the Death Stars plans, General Dodonna says in the briefing:




                      The battle station is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater than half the star fleet. It's defenses are designed around a direct large-scale assault. A small one-man fighter should be able to penetrate the outer defense. [...] An analysis of the plans provided by Princess Leia has demonstrated a weakness in the battle station. [...] You are required to maneuver straight down this trench and skim the surface to this point.




                      Rebel pilots were skeptical that the shot that was needed to destroy the DS was at all possible ("That's impossible, even for a computer.").



                      The rebel leaders aren't stupid. At this point they know that attacking the DS with a capital fleet is just suicide. They've witnessed the destructive power at Scarif. That is why they chose to go another route and only send in small fighters, mainly X-Wings and Y-Wings:



                      Attacking the DS



                      In this shot, we do not see any capital ships involved in the attack – only small fighters – as the trench run was only possible with small fighters and capital ships would just have been target practice for the DS.



                      Furthermore it doesn't look like there was much left of the rebel fleet that participated at Scarif. Leias blockade runner barely escaped the fray at the end of Rogue One with most of the fleet destroyed, which is confirmed in a short story:




                      The remaining Alliance forces on Yavin 4 were a ragtag collection of starfighters and light cruisers – almost no capital ships had survived the battle at Scarif.
                      — Sparks: From a Certain Point of View




                      Thus, the rebels use only the instruments that actually have a chance to make a difference, without using any capital ships that may or might not be present at Yavin in a guaranteed suicide mission.






                      share|improve this answer













                      ANH does not show a capital rebel fleet at any point, because it is simply not involved, for good reason.



                      After analyzing the Death Stars plans, General Dodonna says in the briefing:




                      The battle station is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater than half the star fleet. It's defenses are designed around a direct large-scale assault. A small one-man fighter should be able to penetrate the outer defense. [...] An analysis of the plans provided by Princess Leia has demonstrated a weakness in the battle station. [...] You are required to maneuver straight down this trench and skim the surface to this point.




                      Rebel pilots were skeptical that the shot that was needed to destroy the DS was at all possible ("That's impossible, even for a computer.").



                      The rebel leaders aren't stupid. At this point they know that attacking the DS with a capital fleet is just suicide. They've witnessed the destructive power at Scarif. That is why they chose to go another route and only send in small fighters, mainly X-Wings and Y-Wings:



                      Attacking the DS



                      In this shot, we do not see any capital ships involved in the attack – only small fighters – as the trench run was only possible with small fighters and capital ships would just have been target practice for the DS.



                      Furthermore it doesn't look like there was much left of the rebel fleet that participated at Scarif. Leias blockade runner barely escaped the fray at the end of Rogue One with most of the fleet destroyed, which is confirmed in a short story:




                      The remaining Alliance forces on Yavin 4 were a ragtag collection of starfighters and light cruisers – almost no capital ships had survived the battle at Scarif.
                      — Sparks: From a Certain Point of View




                      Thus, the rebels use only the instruments that actually have a chance to make a difference, without using any capital ships that may or might not be present at Yavin in a guaranteed suicide mission.







                      share|improve this answer












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                      • this is pretty the exact same thing as my answer :

                        – NKCampbell
                        Apr 19 at 14:06






                      • 1





                        @NKCampbell They are somewhat similar, but I like the visual guidance with the image that shows the difference between Scarif and Yavin very clearly (one is an engagement with capitals, the other with fighters).

                        – Polygnome
                        Apr 19 at 15:39

















                      • this is pretty the exact same thing as my answer :

                        – NKCampbell
                        Apr 19 at 14:06






                      • 1





                        @NKCampbell They are somewhat similar, but I like the visual guidance with the image that shows the difference between Scarif and Yavin very clearly (one is an engagement with capitals, the other with fighters).

                        – Polygnome
                        Apr 19 at 15:39
















                      this is pretty the exact same thing as my answer :

                      – NKCampbell
                      Apr 19 at 14:06





                      this is pretty the exact same thing as my answer :

                      – NKCampbell
                      Apr 19 at 14:06




                      1




                      1





                      @NKCampbell They are somewhat similar, but I like the visual guidance with the image that shows the difference between Scarif and Yavin very clearly (one is an engagement with capitals, the other with fighters).

                      – Polygnome
                      Apr 19 at 15:39





                      @NKCampbell They are somewhat similar, but I like the visual guidance with the image that shows the difference between Scarif and Yavin very clearly (one is an engagement with capitals, the other with fighters).

                      – Polygnome
                      Apr 19 at 15:39











                      -6














                      There is a large time gap between episode 4 and Rogue One. During this time, it is entirely possible that other battles have weakened the rebel fleet.






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                        Rogue One ends with Vader kicking ass and taking names while trying to recover the plans moments before Leia's ship escapes, in which moment Episode IV literally starts. Did you miss that?

                        – Rebel-Scum
                        Apr 18 at 18:22















                      -6














                      There is a large time gap between episode 4 and Rogue One. During this time, it is entirely possible that other battles have weakened the rebel fleet.






                      share|improve this answer


















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                        Rogue One ends with Vader kicking ass and taking names while trying to recover the plans moments before Leia's ship escapes, in which moment Episode IV literally starts. Did you miss that?

                        – Rebel-Scum
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                      -6







                      There is a large time gap between episode 4 and Rogue One. During this time, it is entirely possible that other battles have weakened the rebel fleet.






                      share|improve this answer













                      There is a large time gap between episode 4 and Rogue One. During this time, it is entirely possible that other battles have weakened the rebel fleet.







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                        Rogue One ends with Vader kicking ass and taking names while trying to recover the plans moments before Leia's ship escapes, in which moment Episode IV literally starts. Did you miss that?

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                        Rogue One ends with Vader kicking ass and taking names while trying to recover the plans moments before Leia's ship escapes, in which moment Episode IV literally starts. Did you miss that?

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                      Rogue One ends with Vader kicking ass and taking names while trying to recover the plans moments before Leia's ship escapes, in which moment Episode IV literally starts. Did you miss that?

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                      Rogue One ends with Vader kicking ass and taking names while trying to recover the plans moments before Leia's ship escapes, in which moment Episode IV literally starts. Did you miss that?

                      – Rebel-Scum
                      Apr 18 at 18:22

















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