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I'm trying to get a list of the members of a group in Active Directory. I'm using LDAP queries, but I think that's not relevant. I've found what I believe to be an inconsistency in Active Directory's group membership information:

A security group G has been created with Global scope. Viewing G's properties using the AD Users and Computers MMC Snap-in shows three users, A B C on the Members tab.

However, on viewing the User properties of A B and C, only A and B have G listed on the 'Member Of' tab - G is not present on the 'Member Of' tab of user C.

How can it be that a user is in the Members list of a group, but that group is not in the 'Member Of' list for that user?

_{(note that the group G is not any user's primary group)}

(I originally thought this was an LDAP querying problem, but it isn't: the queries accurately report the information in Active Directory, and it's that that's inconsistent)

active-directory users groups

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  Is it the user's primary group?
  
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  Just for grins - which is correct according to the AD toolset? (like ADUC)
  
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  @uSlackr thanks, that tipped me off that it's actually AD giving me the results I don't understand, rather than LDAP as such. Updated the q.
  
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  @Shane no, it's a freshly created group. I've updated the q to be about AD rather than LDAP, since that seems to be the root of it.
  
  – AakashM
  Feb 9 '12 at 10:05
  

  
  
  
  

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I'm trying to get a list of the members of a group in Active Directory. I'm using LDAP queries, but I think that's not relevant. I've found what I believe to be an inconsistency in Active Directory's group membership information:

A security group G has been created with Global scope. Viewing G's properties using the AD Users and Computers MMC Snap-in shows three users, A B C on the Members tab.

However, on viewing the User properties of A B and C, only A and B have G listed on the 'Member Of' tab - G is not present on the 'Member Of' tab of user C.

How can it be that a user is in the Members list of a group, but that group is not in the 'Member Of' list for that user?

_{(note that the group G is not any user's primary group)}

(I originally thought this was an LDAP querying problem, but it isn't: the queries accurately report the information in Active Directory, and it's that that's inconsistent)

active-directory users groups

share|improve this question

edited Feb 9 '12 at 10:01

AakashM

asked Feb 8 '12 at 17:50

AakashMAakashM

1166

• 
  
  
  

  
  2
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Is it the user's primary group?
  
  – Shane Madden♦
  Feb 8 '12 at 18:29
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Just for grins - which is correct according to the AD toolset? (like ADUC)
  
  – uSlackr
  Feb 8 '12 at 18:45
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @uSlackr thanks, that tipped me off that it's actually AD giving me the results I don't understand, rather than LDAP as such. Updated the q.
  
  – AakashM
  Feb 9 '12 at 10:02
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Shane no, it's a freshly created group. I've updated the q to be about AD rather than LDAP, since that seems to be the root of it.
  
  – AakashM
  Feb 9 '12 at 10:05
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

I'm trying to get a list of the members of a group in Active Directory. I'm using LDAP queries, but I think that's not relevant. I've found what I believe to be an inconsistency in Active Directory's group membership information:

A security group G has been created with Global scope. Viewing G's properties using the AD Users and Computers MMC Snap-in shows three users, A B C on the Members tab.

However, on viewing the User properties of A B and C, only A and B have G listed on the 'Member Of' tab - G is not present on the 'Member Of' tab of user C.

How can it be that a user is in the Members list of a group, but that group is not in the 'Member Of' list for that user?

_{(note that the group G is not any user's primary group)}

(I originally thought this was an LDAP querying problem, but it isn't: the queries accurately report the information in Active Directory, and it's that that's inconsistent)

active-directory users groups

share|improve this question

edited Feb 9 '12 at 10:01

AakashM

asked Feb 8 '12 at 17:50

AakashMAakashM

1166

share|improve this question

edited Feb 9 '12 at 10:01

AakashM

asked Feb 8 '12 at 17:50

AakashMAakashM

1166

share|improve this question

edited Feb 9 '12 at 10:01

AakashM

asked Feb 8 '12 at 17:50

AakashMAakashM

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asked Feb 8 '12 at 17:50

AakashMAakashM

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asked Feb 8 '12 at 17:50

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There can be an issue getting complete results if you are querying a group that contains entries from multiple AD domains (global vs universal groups). There is more on the topic here

(Note: on the linked page, I see wingding fonts in the middle of the post from Che. Here they are converted to a real font:

• At a DC for the domain that contains the user, memberOf for the user is complete with respect to group membership in that domain; however, memberOf does not contain the user's membership in domain local and global groups in other domains.


• At a GC server, memberOf for the user is complete with respect to all universal group memberships.

)

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  Thanks for that link, although I am slightly getting out of my depth I think :) I'm getting the feeling the best thing to do is just find the group and read its members, rather than relying on memberOf - does that seem reasonable?
  
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There can be an issue getting complete results if you are querying a group that contains entries from multiple AD domains (global vs universal groups). There is more on the topic here

(Note: on the linked page, I see wingding fonts in the middle of the post from Che. Here they are converted to a real font:

• At a DC for the domain that contains the user, memberOf for the user is complete with respect to group membership in that domain; however, memberOf does not contain the user's membership in domain local and global groups in other domains.


• At a GC server, memberOf for the user is complete with respect to all universal group memberships.

)

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InteXX

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answered Feb 8 '12 at 18:57

uSlackruSlackr

6,0941531

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Thanks for that link, although I am slightly getting out of my depth I think :) I'm getting the feeling the best thing to do is just find the group and read its members, rather than relying on memberOf - does that seem reasonable?
  
  – AakashM
  Feb 9 '12 at 10:05
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

2

There can be an issue getting complete results if you are querying a group that contains entries from multiple AD domains (global vs universal groups). There is more on the topic here

(Note: on the linked page, I see wingding fonts in the middle of the post from Che. Here they are converted to a real font:

• At a DC for the domain that contains the user, memberOf for the user is complete with respect to group membership in that domain; however, memberOf does not contain the user's membership in domain local and global groups in other domains.


• At a GC server, memberOf for the user is complete with respect to all universal group memberships.

)

share|improve this answer

edited May 4 at 11:09

InteXX

387627

answered Feb 8 '12 at 18:57

uSlackruSlackr

6,0941531

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Thanks for that link, although I am slightly getting out of my depth I think :) I'm getting the feeling the best thing to do is just find the group and read its members, rather than relying on memberOf - does that seem reasonable?
  
  – AakashM
  Feb 9 '12 at 10:05
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

There can be an issue getting complete results if you are querying a group that contains entries from multiple AD domains (global vs universal groups). There is more on the topic here

(Note: on the linked page, I see wingding fonts in the middle of the post from Che. Here they are converted to a real font:

• At a DC for the domain that contains the user, memberOf for the user is complete with respect to group membership in that domain; however, memberOf does not contain the user's membership in domain local and global groups in other domains.


• At a GC server, memberOf for the user is complete with respect to all universal group memberships.

)

share|improve this answer

edited May 4 at 11:09

InteXX

387627

answered Feb 8 '12 at 18:57

uSlackruSlackr

6,0941531

share|improve this answer

edited May 4 at 11:09

InteXX

387627

answered Feb 8 '12 at 18:57

uSlackruSlackr

6,0941531

edited May 4 at 11:09

InteXX

387627

edited May 4 at 11:09

InteXX

387627

answered Feb 8 '12 at 18:57

uSlackruSlackr

6,0941531

answered Feb 8 '12 at 18:57

uSlackruSlackr

6,0941531