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Is there any need to use patch:after with Unicorn configuration files


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I'm working in a Helix solution and have noticed things like:



<configuration name="Feature.MyModuleName"
dependencies="Foundation.SomethingElse"
patch:after="configuration[@name='Foundation.Core']">


To me, the dependencies attribute seems like all you should need.



Is it really necessary patch:after as well as the dependencies attribute?










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    I'm working in a Helix solution and have noticed things like:



    <configuration name="Feature.MyModuleName"
    dependencies="Foundation.SomethingElse"
    patch:after="configuration[@name='Foundation.Core']">


    To me, the dependencies attribute seems like all you should need.



    Is it really necessary patch:after as well as the dependencies attribute?










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      I'm working in a Helix solution and have noticed things like:



      <configuration name="Feature.MyModuleName"
      dependencies="Foundation.SomethingElse"
      patch:after="configuration[@name='Foundation.Core']">


      To me, the dependencies attribute seems like all you should need.



      Is it really necessary patch:after as well as the dependencies attribute?










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      I'm working in a Helix solution and have noticed things like:



      <configuration name="Feature.MyModuleName"
      dependencies="Foundation.SomethingElse"
      patch:after="configuration[@name='Foundation.Core']">


      To me, the dependencies attribute seems like all you should need.



      Is it really necessary patch:after as well as the dependencies attribute?







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          Yes. At least potentially.



          patch:after happens when Sitecore.Configuration.Factory reads and parses and constructs the object graph that the configuration represents. So at Initialize time of the application. There could be Foundation level configuration entries (like default serializer and so on) that need to be set up, before your Feature level configuration is read and parsed.



          The dependencies attribute affects Unicorn sync order at runtime. So much much later in process/lifecycle of your application.






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          • Cool, thanks for your answer. So in most cases, we should not need patch:before; only when there is something which changes the behaviour of serialization/unicorn.

            – Matthew Dresser
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            Yes. Which in a typical Helix type setup would be something like Foundation.Serialization.

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          Yes. At least potentially.



          patch:after happens when Sitecore.Configuration.Factory reads and parses and constructs the object graph that the configuration represents. So at Initialize time of the application. There could be Foundation level configuration entries (like default serializer and so on) that need to be set up, before your Feature level configuration is read and parsed.



          The dependencies attribute affects Unicorn sync order at runtime. So much much later in process/lifecycle of your application.






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          • Cool, thanks for your answer. So in most cases, we should not need patch:before; only when there is something which changes the behaviour of serialization/unicorn.

            – Matthew Dresser
            Apr 29 at 14:49






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            Yes. Which in a typical Helix type setup would be something like Foundation.Serialization.

            – Mark Cassidy
            Apr 29 at 14:58















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          Yes. At least potentially.



          patch:after happens when Sitecore.Configuration.Factory reads and parses and constructs the object graph that the configuration represents. So at Initialize time of the application. There could be Foundation level configuration entries (like default serializer and so on) that need to be set up, before your Feature level configuration is read and parsed.



          The dependencies attribute affects Unicorn sync order at runtime. So much much later in process/lifecycle of your application.






          share|improve this answer























          • Cool, thanks for your answer. So in most cases, we should not need patch:before; only when there is something which changes the behaviour of serialization/unicorn.

            – Matthew Dresser
            Apr 29 at 14:49






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            Yes. Which in a typical Helix type setup would be something like Foundation.Serialization.

            – Mark Cassidy
            Apr 29 at 14:58













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          Yes. At least potentially.



          patch:after happens when Sitecore.Configuration.Factory reads and parses and constructs the object graph that the configuration represents. So at Initialize time of the application. There could be Foundation level configuration entries (like default serializer and so on) that need to be set up, before your Feature level configuration is read and parsed.



          The dependencies attribute affects Unicorn sync order at runtime. So much much later in process/lifecycle of your application.






          share|improve this answer













          Yes. At least potentially.



          patch:after happens when Sitecore.Configuration.Factory reads and parses and constructs the object graph that the configuration represents. So at Initialize time of the application. There could be Foundation level configuration entries (like default serializer and so on) that need to be set up, before your Feature level configuration is read and parsed.



          The dependencies attribute affects Unicorn sync order at runtime. So much much later in process/lifecycle of your application.







          share|improve this answer












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          • Cool, thanks for your answer. So in most cases, we should not need patch:before; only when there is something which changes the behaviour of serialization/unicorn.

            – Matthew Dresser
            Apr 29 at 14:49






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            Yes. Which in a typical Helix type setup would be something like Foundation.Serialization.

            – Mark Cassidy
            Apr 29 at 14:58

















          • Cool, thanks for your answer. So in most cases, we should not need patch:before; only when there is something which changes the behaviour of serialization/unicorn.

            – Matthew Dresser
            Apr 29 at 14:49






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            Yes. Which in a typical Helix type setup would be something like Foundation.Serialization.

            – Mark Cassidy
            Apr 29 at 14:58
















          Cool, thanks for your answer. So in most cases, we should not need patch:before; only when there is something which changes the behaviour of serialization/unicorn.

          – Matthew Dresser
          Apr 29 at 14:49





          Cool, thanks for your answer. So in most cases, we should not need patch:before; only when there is something which changes the behaviour of serialization/unicorn.

          – Matthew Dresser
          Apr 29 at 14:49




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          Yes. Which in a typical Helix type setup would be something like Foundation.Serialization.

          – Mark Cassidy
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          Yes. Which in a typical Helix type setup would be something like Foundation.Serialization.

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