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Combinatorics problem 25 students problem


Selection using permutation and combinationCombinations question - why is my approach wrong?Problem on combination - ways to form a committeeNumber of committees of size $5$ with at least $2$ women from a society with $10$ men and $12$ womenForming a committee from $4$ gentlemen and $4$ ladies with certain conditionsPermutations and Combinations: Word ProblemCombinatorics: “four male-female couples and eight chairs” problemCombinatorics question of understanding the cases where 2 cannot be counted togetherCombinatorics dance classCombinatorics- Why is this approach wrong?






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A class with 25 students, 15 women and 10 men.
A committe will be formed by 3 students, a president, a vice president and public relation manager. How many mixed committee can be formed?
So, what I did, there are 15 women and 10 men, so 15*10 ,and there will be left 23 students, then there are 3! places for them so 15*10*23*3!



I think that this would work however it's wrong, another solution is(doing by cases):
$$ 15*(^10A_2)*3 + 10*(^15A_2)*3 $$
Notation: $$^nA_p=^nP_p $$
They're the number of arrangements/permutations.



Simplifying their answer we get:
$$15*10*9*3 + 10*15*14*3 = 15*10*3(9+14)=15*10*23*3$$
Well the difference is, they have 3 but I have 3!, what's wrong with my answer? Why do I have to divide by two?










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    So, are you distinguishing the committees by role and sex, or only by sex ? can you give example of what you consider equal or different ?
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    Role and sex, for example a guy called A and two women called B and C can form 6(3!) different committees, ABC ACB CAB CBA BAC BAC, being the first slot the president, second vice president and the third public relation manager
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    ah! I understood the committee was made by six members ! So you actually have a triple !
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    @Nuno It's confusing to write "6(3!) different committees". It looks like you're multiplying. I would suggest writing it as "6 (=3!) different committees."
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    You're right @Zonker.in.Geneva
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A class with 25 students, 15 women and 10 men.
A committe will be formed by 3 students, a president, a vice president and public relation manager. How many mixed committee can be formed?
So, what I did, there are 15 women and 10 men, so 15*10 ,and there will be left 23 students, then there are 3! places for them so 15*10*23*3!



I think that this would work however it's wrong, another solution is(doing by cases):
$$ 15*(^10A_2)*3 + 10*(^15A_2)*3 $$
Notation: $$^nA_p=^nP_p $$
They're the number of arrangements/permutations.



Simplifying their answer we get:
$$15*10*9*3 + 10*15*14*3 = 15*10*3(9+14)=15*10*23*3$$
Well the difference is, they have 3 but I have 3!, what's wrong with my answer? Why do I have to divide by two?










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    So, are you distinguishing the committees by role and sex, or only by sex ? can you give example of what you consider equal or different ?
    $endgroup$
    – G Cab
    Jun 9 at 22:46











  • $begingroup$
    Role and sex, for example a guy called A and two women called B and C can form 6(3!) different committees, ABC ACB CAB CBA BAC BAC, being the first slot the president, second vice president and the third public relation manager
    $endgroup$
    – Nuno Mateus
    Jun 9 at 22:57










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    ah! I understood the committee was made by six members ! So you actually have a triple !
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    – G Cab
    Jun 9 at 23:16






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    @Nuno It's confusing to write "6(3!) different committees". It looks like you're multiplying. I would suggest writing it as "6 (=3!) different committees."
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    – Zonker.in.Geneva
    Jun 10 at 9:07










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    You're right @Zonker.in.Geneva
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A class with 25 students, 15 women and 10 men.
A committe will be formed by 3 students, a president, a vice president and public relation manager. How many mixed committee can be formed?
So, what I did, there are 15 women and 10 men, so 15*10 ,and there will be left 23 students, then there are 3! places for them so 15*10*23*3!



I think that this would work however it's wrong, another solution is(doing by cases):
$$ 15*(^10A_2)*3 + 10*(^15A_2)*3 $$
Notation: $$^nA_p=^nP_p $$
They're the number of arrangements/permutations.



Simplifying their answer we get:
$$15*10*9*3 + 10*15*14*3 = 15*10*3(9+14)=15*10*23*3$$
Well the difference is, they have 3 but I have 3!, what's wrong with my answer? Why do I have to divide by two?










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A class with 25 students, 15 women and 10 men.
A committe will be formed by 3 students, a president, a vice president and public relation manager. How many mixed committee can be formed?
So, what I did, there are 15 women and 10 men, so 15*10 ,and there will be left 23 students, then there are 3! places for them so 15*10*23*3!



I think that this would work however it's wrong, another solution is(doing by cases):
$$ 15*(^10A_2)*3 + 10*(^15A_2)*3 $$
Notation: $$^nA_p=^nP_p $$
They're the number of arrangements/permutations.



Simplifying their answer we get:
$$15*10*9*3 + 10*15*14*3 = 15*10*3(9+14)=15*10*23*3$$
Well the difference is, they have 3 but I have 3!, what's wrong with my answer? Why do I have to divide by two?







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    So, are you distinguishing the committees by role and sex, or only by sex ? can you give example of what you consider equal or different ?
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    Role and sex, for example a guy called A and two women called B and C can form 6(3!) different committees, ABC ACB CAB CBA BAC BAC, being the first slot the president, second vice president and the third public relation manager
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    ah! I understood the committee was made by six members ! So you actually have a triple !
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    Jun 9 at 23:16






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    @Nuno It's confusing to write "6(3!) different committees". It looks like you're multiplying. I would suggest writing it as "6 (=3!) different committees."
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    You're right @Zonker.in.Geneva
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    So, are you distinguishing the committees by role and sex, or only by sex ? can you give example of what you consider equal or different ?
    $endgroup$
    – G Cab
    Jun 9 at 22:46











  • $begingroup$
    Role and sex, for example a guy called A and two women called B and C can form 6(3!) different committees, ABC ACB CAB CBA BAC BAC, being the first slot the president, second vice president and the third public relation manager
    $endgroup$
    – Nuno Mateus
    Jun 9 at 22:57










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    ah! I understood the committee was made by six members ! So you actually have a triple !
    $endgroup$
    – G Cab
    Jun 9 at 23:16






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Nuno It's confusing to write "6(3!) different committees". It looks like you're multiplying. I would suggest writing it as "6 (=3!) different committees."
    $endgroup$
    – Zonker.in.Geneva
    Jun 10 at 9:07










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    You're right @Zonker.in.Geneva
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So, are you distinguishing the committees by role and sex, or only by sex ? can you give example of what you consider equal or different ?
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So, are you distinguishing the committees by role and sex, or only by sex ? can you give example of what you consider equal or different ?
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Role and sex, for example a guy called A and two women called B and C can form 6(3!) different committees, ABC ACB CAB CBA BAC BAC, being the first slot the president, second vice president and the third public relation manager
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Role and sex, for example a guy called A and two women called B and C can form 6(3!) different committees, ABC ACB CAB CBA BAC BAC, being the first slot the president, second vice president and the third public relation manager
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ah! I understood the committee was made by six members ! So you actually have a triple !
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ah! I understood the committee was made by six members ! So you actually have a triple !
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@Nuno It's confusing to write "6(3!) different committees". It looks like you're multiplying. I would suggest writing it as "6 (=3!) different committees."
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@Nuno It's confusing to write "6(3!) different committees". It looks like you're multiplying. I would suggest writing it as "6 (=3!) different committees."
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You're right @Zonker.in.Geneva
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So, what I did, there are 15 women and 10 men, so 15*10, and there will be left 23 students ...




In this step you made a mistake:



What you do here is forming the committee by doing three steps:



  1. You pick one of 15 women (let's say Jane Doe)

  2. You pick one of 10 men (let's say John Doe)

  3. You pick one of the 23 remaining students (let's say Joe Bloggs)

However, you could also have picked Joe Bloggs in the second step and John Doe in the third step.



This means that you will get each possible set of three persons twice when you pick the three persons this way.



Therefore there are only $frac12*15*10*23$ sets of three persons, not 15*10*23.




Well the difference is, they have 3 but I have 3!




When the persons in the committee have different tasks, it is correct to multiply the number of sets of persons with 3! (and not with 3) to get the number of possible different committees.



This will lead to the following result:



$(frac12*15*10*23)*(3!) = frac12*15*10*23*(3!) = 15*10*23*frac12*6 = 15*10*23*3$






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    Say men are $M_1,M_2,...,M_10$ and women are $W_1,W_2,...W_15$. Then in your method, if we choose a woman first, say $W_1$, then a man, say $M_1$, then from the rest of $23$, suppose we have chosen $M_2$. And then we permute them with $3!$ so it is not important in which order we have chosen this three member. But notice that if we choose $W_1$ as before as woman and $M_2$ as man this time, and $M_1$ from the remaining $23$ students, permuting them will give us the same committee, resulting in overcounting.



    In general, if we choose $W_i$ and $M_j$ first and then $W_k$, this committee can be formed in exactly $2$ ways in your method because we can either choose $W_i$ first and $W_k$ third, or $W_k$ first $W_i$ third. This is also valid for $M_k$ too so it is actually valid for all committees formed in your method. Therefore, we are counting each case exactly twice. That's why your answer is twice the correct answer.






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      Upon clarifying that we are speaking of a triple, then these can be 1M 2W or 2M 1W.

      Then they can be permuted each in $3!$ ways, thus a total of $12$ if identity does not matter.



      On the contrary, If people identity matters, in the first case you can select the members in $binom101 cdot binom152$, in the second in $binom102 cdot binom151$, and permute the roles.

      i.e. $3! (binom101 cdot binom152+binom102 cdot binom151)= 10350$






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        Suppose you select a woman, call her A, and a man, call him B, then the third person, call them C. When you multiply by 3!, you form every possible permutation of A,B,C.



        Now suppose you select, without loss of generality, C, then B, then A. When you multiply this triplet by 3!, you are forming the same collection of committees.



        Since you are double counting, you need to divide by 2.






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          Why are we double counting?
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          Because you're not distinguishing between picking the woman A first and another woman,C, 3rd and vice versa. The same would be true about picking the man 2nd and another man 3rd.
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        So, what I did, there are 15 women and 10 men, so 15*10, and there will be left 23 students ...




        In this step you made a mistake:



        What you do here is forming the committee by doing three steps:



        1. You pick one of 15 women (let's say Jane Doe)

        2. You pick one of 10 men (let's say John Doe)

        3. You pick one of the 23 remaining students (let's say Joe Bloggs)

        However, you could also have picked Joe Bloggs in the second step and John Doe in the third step.



        This means that you will get each possible set of three persons twice when you pick the three persons this way.



        Therefore there are only $frac12*15*10*23$ sets of three persons, not 15*10*23.




        Well the difference is, they have 3 but I have 3!




        When the persons in the committee have different tasks, it is correct to multiply the number of sets of persons with 3! (and not with 3) to get the number of possible different committees.



        This will lead to the following result:



        $(frac12*15*10*23)*(3!) = frac12*15*10*23*(3!) = 15*10*23*frac12*6 = 15*10*23*3$






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          So, what I did, there are 15 women and 10 men, so 15*10, and there will be left 23 students ...




          In this step you made a mistake:



          What you do here is forming the committee by doing three steps:



          1. You pick one of 15 women (let's say Jane Doe)

          2. You pick one of 10 men (let's say John Doe)

          3. You pick one of the 23 remaining students (let's say Joe Bloggs)

          However, you could also have picked Joe Bloggs in the second step and John Doe in the third step.



          This means that you will get each possible set of three persons twice when you pick the three persons this way.



          Therefore there are only $frac12*15*10*23$ sets of three persons, not 15*10*23.




          Well the difference is, they have 3 but I have 3!




          When the persons in the committee have different tasks, it is correct to multiply the number of sets of persons with 3! (and not with 3) to get the number of possible different committees.



          This will lead to the following result:



          $(frac12*15*10*23)*(3!) = frac12*15*10*23*(3!) = 15*10*23*frac12*6 = 15*10*23*3$






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            So, what I did, there are 15 women and 10 men, so 15*10, and there will be left 23 students ...




            In this step you made a mistake:



            What you do here is forming the committee by doing three steps:



            1. You pick one of 15 women (let's say Jane Doe)

            2. You pick one of 10 men (let's say John Doe)

            3. You pick one of the 23 remaining students (let's say Joe Bloggs)

            However, you could also have picked Joe Bloggs in the second step and John Doe in the third step.



            This means that you will get each possible set of three persons twice when you pick the three persons this way.



            Therefore there are only $frac12*15*10*23$ sets of three persons, not 15*10*23.




            Well the difference is, they have 3 but I have 3!




            When the persons in the committee have different tasks, it is correct to multiply the number of sets of persons with 3! (and not with 3) to get the number of possible different committees.



            This will lead to the following result:



            $(frac12*15*10*23)*(3!) = frac12*15*10*23*(3!) = 15*10*23*frac12*6 = 15*10*23*3$






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            So, what I did, there are 15 women and 10 men, so 15*10, and there will be left 23 students ...




            In this step you made a mistake:



            What you do here is forming the committee by doing three steps:



            1. You pick one of 15 women (let's say Jane Doe)

            2. You pick one of 10 men (let's say John Doe)

            3. You pick one of the 23 remaining students (let's say Joe Bloggs)

            However, you could also have picked Joe Bloggs in the second step and John Doe in the third step.



            This means that you will get each possible set of three persons twice when you pick the three persons this way.



            Therefore there are only $frac12*15*10*23$ sets of three persons, not 15*10*23.




            Well the difference is, they have 3 but I have 3!




            When the persons in the committee have different tasks, it is correct to multiply the number of sets of persons with 3! (and not with 3) to get the number of possible different committees.



            This will lead to the following result:



            $(frac12*15*10*23)*(3!) = frac12*15*10*23*(3!) = 15*10*23*frac12*6 = 15*10*23*3$







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                Say men are $M_1,M_2,...,M_10$ and women are $W_1,W_2,...W_15$. Then in your method, if we choose a woman first, say $W_1$, then a man, say $M_1$, then from the rest of $23$, suppose we have chosen $M_2$. And then we permute them with $3!$ so it is not important in which order we have chosen this three member. But notice that if we choose $W_1$ as before as woman and $M_2$ as man this time, and $M_1$ from the remaining $23$ students, permuting them will give us the same committee, resulting in overcounting.



                In general, if we choose $W_i$ and $M_j$ first and then $W_k$, this committee can be formed in exactly $2$ ways in your method because we can either choose $W_i$ first and $W_k$ third, or $W_k$ first $W_i$ third. This is also valid for $M_k$ too so it is actually valid for all committees formed in your method. Therefore, we are counting each case exactly twice. That's why your answer is twice the correct answer.






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                  Say men are $M_1,M_2,...,M_10$ and women are $W_1,W_2,...W_15$. Then in your method, if we choose a woman first, say $W_1$, then a man, say $M_1$, then from the rest of $23$, suppose we have chosen $M_2$. And then we permute them with $3!$ so it is not important in which order we have chosen this three member. But notice that if we choose $W_1$ as before as woman and $M_2$ as man this time, and $M_1$ from the remaining $23$ students, permuting them will give us the same committee, resulting in overcounting.



                  In general, if we choose $W_i$ and $M_j$ first and then $W_k$, this committee can be formed in exactly $2$ ways in your method because we can either choose $W_i$ first and $W_k$ third, or $W_k$ first $W_i$ third. This is also valid for $M_k$ too so it is actually valid for all committees formed in your method. Therefore, we are counting each case exactly twice. That's why your answer is twice the correct answer.






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                    Say men are $M_1,M_2,...,M_10$ and women are $W_1,W_2,...W_15$. Then in your method, if we choose a woman first, say $W_1$, then a man, say $M_1$, then from the rest of $23$, suppose we have chosen $M_2$. And then we permute them with $3!$ so it is not important in which order we have chosen this three member. But notice that if we choose $W_1$ as before as woman and $M_2$ as man this time, and $M_1$ from the remaining $23$ students, permuting them will give us the same committee, resulting in overcounting.



                    In general, if we choose $W_i$ and $M_j$ first and then $W_k$, this committee can be formed in exactly $2$ ways in your method because we can either choose $W_i$ first and $W_k$ third, or $W_k$ first $W_i$ third. This is also valid for $M_k$ too so it is actually valid for all committees formed in your method. Therefore, we are counting each case exactly twice. That's why your answer is twice the correct answer.






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                    Say men are $M_1,M_2,...,M_10$ and women are $W_1,W_2,...W_15$. Then in your method, if we choose a woman first, say $W_1$, then a man, say $M_1$, then from the rest of $23$, suppose we have chosen $M_2$. And then we permute them with $3!$ so it is not important in which order we have chosen this three member. But notice that if we choose $W_1$ as before as woman and $M_2$ as man this time, and $M_1$ from the remaining $23$ students, permuting them will give us the same committee, resulting in overcounting.



                    In general, if we choose $W_i$ and $M_j$ first and then $W_k$, this committee can be formed in exactly $2$ ways in your method because we can either choose $W_i$ first and $W_k$ third, or $W_k$ first $W_i$ third. This is also valid for $M_k$ too so it is actually valid for all committees formed in your method. Therefore, we are counting each case exactly twice. That's why your answer is twice the correct answer.







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                        Upon clarifying that we are speaking of a triple, then these can be 1M 2W or 2M 1W.

                        Then they can be permuted each in $3!$ ways, thus a total of $12$ if identity does not matter.



                        On the contrary, If people identity matters, in the first case you can select the members in $binom101 cdot binom152$, in the second in $binom102 cdot binom151$, and permute the roles.

                        i.e. $3! (binom101 cdot binom152+binom102 cdot binom151)= 10350$






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                          $begingroup$

                          Upon clarifying that we are speaking of a triple, then these can be 1M 2W or 2M 1W.

                          Then they can be permuted each in $3!$ ways, thus a total of $12$ if identity does not matter.



                          On the contrary, If people identity matters, in the first case you can select the members in $binom101 cdot binom152$, in the second in $binom102 cdot binom151$, and permute the roles.

                          i.e. $3! (binom101 cdot binom152+binom102 cdot binom151)= 10350$






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                            $begingroup$

                            Upon clarifying that we are speaking of a triple, then these can be 1M 2W or 2M 1W.

                            Then they can be permuted each in $3!$ ways, thus a total of $12$ if identity does not matter.



                            On the contrary, If people identity matters, in the first case you can select the members in $binom101 cdot binom152$, in the second in $binom102 cdot binom151$, and permute the roles.

                            i.e. $3! (binom101 cdot binom152+binom102 cdot binom151)= 10350$






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                            Upon clarifying that we are speaking of a triple, then these can be 1M 2W or 2M 1W.

                            Then they can be permuted each in $3!$ ways, thus a total of $12$ if identity does not matter.



                            On the contrary, If people identity matters, in the first case you can select the members in $binom101 cdot binom152$, in the second in $binom102 cdot binom151$, and permute the roles.

                            i.e. $3! (binom101 cdot binom152+binom102 cdot binom151)= 10350$







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                                Suppose you select a woman, call her A, and a man, call him B, then the third person, call them C. When you multiply by 3!, you form every possible permutation of A,B,C.



                                Now suppose you select, without loss of generality, C, then B, then A. When you multiply this triplet by 3!, you are forming the same collection of committees.



                                Since you are double counting, you need to divide by 2.






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                                  Why are we double counting?
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                                  – Nuno Mateus
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                                  Because you're not distinguishing between picking the woman A first and another woman,C, 3rd and vice versa. The same would be true about picking the man 2nd and another man 3rd.
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                                $begingroup$

                                Suppose you select a woman, call her A, and a man, call him B, then the third person, call them C. When you multiply by 3!, you form every possible permutation of A,B,C.



                                Now suppose you select, without loss of generality, C, then B, then A. When you multiply this triplet by 3!, you are forming the same collection of committees.



                                Since you are double counting, you need to divide by 2.






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                                • $begingroup$
                                  Why are we double counting?
                                  $endgroup$
                                  – Nuno Mateus
                                  Jun 9 at 22:58










                                • $begingroup$
                                  Because you're not distinguishing between picking the woman A first and another woman,C, 3rd and vice versa. The same would be true about picking the man 2nd and another man 3rd.
                                  $endgroup$
                                  – Joel Pereira
                                  Jun 9 at 23:06













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                                $begingroup$

                                Suppose you select a woman, call her A, and a man, call him B, then the third person, call them C. When you multiply by 3!, you form every possible permutation of A,B,C.



                                Now suppose you select, without loss of generality, C, then B, then A. When you multiply this triplet by 3!, you are forming the same collection of committees.



                                Since you are double counting, you need to divide by 2.






                                share|cite|improve this answer









                                $endgroup$



                                Suppose you select a woman, call her A, and a man, call him B, then the third person, call them C. When you multiply by 3!, you form every possible permutation of A,B,C.



                                Now suppose you select, without loss of generality, C, then B, then A. When you multiply this triplet by 3!, you are forming the same collection of committees.



                                Since you are double counting, you need to divide by 2.







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                                • $begingroup$
                                  Why are we double counting?
                                  $endgroup$
                                  – Nuno Mateus
                                  Jun 9 at 22:58










                                • $begingroup$
                                  Because you're not distinguishing between picking the woman A first and another woman,C, 3rd and vice versa. The same would be true about picking the man 2nd and another man 3rd.
                                  $endgroup$
                                  – Joel Pereira
                                  Jun 9 at 23:06
















                                • $begingroup$
                                  Why are we double counting?
                                  $endgroup$
                                  – Nuno Mateus
                                  Jun 9 at 22:58










                                • $begingroup$
                                  Because you're not distinguishing between picking the woman A first and another woman,C, 3rd and vice versa. The same would be true about picking the man 2nd and another man 3rd.
                                  $endgroup$
                                  – Joel Pereira
                                  Jun 9 at 23:06















                                $begingroup$
                                Why are we double counting?
                                $endgroup$
                                – Nuno Mateus
                                Jun 9 at 22:58




                                $begingroup$
                                Why are we double counting?
                                $endgroup$
                                – Nuno Mateus
                                Jun 9 at 22:58












                                $begingroup$
                                Because you're not distinguishing between picking the woman A first and another woman,C, 3rd and vice versa. The same would be true about picking the man 2nd and another man 3rd.
                                $endgroup$
                                – Joel Pereira
                                Jun 9 at 23:06




                                $begingroup$
                                Because you're not distinguishing between picking the woman A first and another woman,C, 3rd and vice versa. The same would be true about picking the man 2nd and another man 3rd.
                                $endgroup$
                                – Joel Pereira
                                Jun 9 at 23:06

















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