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SPF record longer than 255 characters in AWS Route53


Email sent from server with rDNS & SPF being blocked by HotmailSPF Records - mechanism not recognized by this client. unknown mechanisms:How to include multiple domains in an spf TXT Recordset Google Apps SPF record in Amazon AWS Route 53Is using SOFTFAIL over FAIL in the SPF record considered best practice?SPF Record - Sender server SPF record permerrorCannot find solution to “One or more of your nameservers did not return any of your NS records.” on intoDNS siteHow can I have an SPF record longer than 255 characters?Reverse DNS for 2 different domainsPostfix: proper configurations - main.cf, DNS, DKIM






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I saw that there's been a couple questions on here that ask the same thing. However, personally, I don't grasp the hint provided. Yes, I've seen https://kb.isc.org/docs/aa-00356 and it only made things worst for me. I use AWS Route53 for our DNS/TXT records. Please help me understand how I can add include:spf.mandrillapp.com to my TXT record using "include:" examples rather than IP addresses. Thanks in advanced sorry I'm new to DNS.



"v=spf1 ip4:206.190.89.129/27 ip4:54.86.80.254/32 ip4:13.111.0.56/32" include:mail.zendesk.com include:stspg-customer.com include:_spf.google.com include:et._spf.pardot.com include:sendgrid.net include:spf.mandrillapp.com include:mailsenders.netsuite.com ~all"









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    I saw that there's been a couple questions on here that ask the same thing. However, personally, I don't grasp the hint provided. Yes, I've seen https://kb.isc.org/docs/aa-00356 and it only made things worst for me. I use AWS Route53 for our DNS/TXT records. Please help me understand how I can add include:spf.mandrillapp.com to my TXT record using "include:" examples rather than IP addresses. Thanks in advanced sorry I'm new to DNS.



    "v=spf1 ip4:206.190.89.129/27 ip4:54.86.80.254/32 ip4:13.111.0.56/32" include:mail.zendesk.com include:stspg-customer.com include:_spf.google.com include:et._spf.pardot.com include:sendgrid.net include:spf.mandrillapp.com include:mailsenders.netsuite.com ~all"









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      I saw that there's been a couple questions on here that ask the same thing. However, personally, I don't grasp the hint provided. Yes, I've seen https://kb.isc.org/docs/aa-00356 and it only made things worst for me. I use AWS Route53 for our DNS/TXT records. Please help me understand how I can add include:spf.mandrillapp.com to my TXT record using "include:" examples rather than IP addresses. Thanks in advanced sorry I'm new to DNS.



      "v=spf1 ip4:206.190.89.129/27 ip4:54.86.80.254/32 ip4:13.111.0.56/32" include:mail.zendesk.com include:stspg-customer.com include:_spf.google.com include:et._spf.pardot.com include:sendgrid.net include:spf.mandrillapp.com include:mailsenders.netsuite.com ~all"









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      I saw that there's been a couple questions on here that ask the same thing. However, personally, I don't grasp the hint provided. Yes, I've seen https://kb.isc.org/docs/aa-00356 and it only made things worst for me. I use AWS Route53 for our DNS/TXT records. Please help me understand how I can add include:spf.mandrillapp.com to my TXT record using "include:" examples rather than IP addresses. Thanks in advanced sorry I'm new to DNS.



      "v=spf1 ip4:206.190.89.129/27 ip4:54.86.80.254/32 ip4:13.111.0.56/32" include:mail.zendesk.com include:stspg-customer.com include:_spf.google.com include:et._spf.pardot.com include:sendgrid.net include:spf.mandrillapp.com include:mailsenders.netsuite.com ~all"






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          This is typically handled by creating multiple TXT records. You can see _spf.google.com do it.



          "v=spf1 include:_netblocks.google.com include:_netblocks2.google.com include:_netblocks3.google.com ~all"


          In your case you would create new TXT records similar to...



          spf1.example.com 300 IN TXT "v=spf1 include:mail.zendesk.com include:stspg-customer.com include:_spf.google.com ~all"
          spf2.example.com 300 IN TXT "v=spf1 include:et._spf.pardot.com include:sendgrid.net include:spf.mandrillapp.com include:mailsenders.netsuite.com ~all"


          And set your SPF record to something like...



          "v=spf1 ip4:206.190.89.129/27 ip4:54.86.80.254/32 ip4:13.111.0.56/32 include:spf1.example.com include:spf2.example.com ~all"


          The danger to records this large is that the SPF RFC 7208 says in section 4.6.4 that only 10 modifiers that require DNS lookups will be honored by systems doing SPF checks. The google SPF record I quoted includes huge lists of netblocks specifically to avoid hitting this limit, and the rest of your includes all point to netblocks. The SPF record you quoted is at 7 all by itself, and the google include adds 3 more (they have a lot of netblocks).



          You're at 10 already. Unfortunately, using the method I mention here will add two more and put you into the zone where mail receivers may not fully query all of your authorized netblocks. You're fast approaching the area where SPF stops being a viable method of control and you'll need to do something like dmarc in order to get the non-repudiation you need. In that case you'd use an SPF record with "v=spf1 +all" which tells mailers that you don't actually care who sends your email and you're using something else. When paired with dkim and DMARC, you get the nonrepudation features you're looking for.






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            This is typically handled by creating multiple TXT records. You can see _spf.google.com do it.



            "v=spf1 include:_netblocks.google.com include:_netblocks2.google.com include:_netblocks3.google.com ~all"


            In your case you would create new TXT records similar to...



            spf1.example.com 300 IN TXT "v=spf1 include:mail.zendesk.com include:stspg-customer.com include:_spf.google.com ~all"
            spf2.example.com 300 IN TXT "v=spf1 include:et._spf.pardot.com include:sendgrid.net include:spf.mandrillapp.com include:mailsenders.netsuite.com ~all"


            And set your SPF record to something like...



            "v=spf1 ip4:206.190.89.129/27 ip4:54.86.80.254/32 ip4:13.111.0.56/32 include:spf1.example.com include:spf2.example.com ~all"


            The danger to records this large is that the SPF RFC 7208 says in section 4.6.4 that only 10 modifiers that require DNS lookups will be honored by systems doing SPF checks. The google SPF record I quoted includes huge lists of netblocks specifically to avoid hitting this limit, and the rest of your includes all point to netblocks. The SPF record you quoted is at 7 all by itself, and the google include adds 3 more (they have a lot of netblocks).



            You're at 10 already. Unfortunately, using the method I mention here will add two more and put you into the zone where mail receivers may not fully query all of your authorized netblocks. You're fast approaching the area where SPF stops being a viable method of control and you'll need to do something like dmarc in order to get the non-repudiation you need. In that case you'd use an SPF record with "v=spf1 +all" which tells mailers that you don't actually care who sends your email and you're using something else. When paired with dkim and DMARC, you get the nonrepudation features you're looking for.






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              This is typically handled by creating multiple TXT records. You can see _spf.google.com do it.



              "v=spf1 include:_netblocks.google.com include:_netblocks2.google.com include:_netblocks3.google.com ~all"


              In your case you would create new TXT records similar to...



              spf1.example.com 300 IN TXT "v=spf1 include:mail.zendesk.com include:stspg-customer.com include:_spf.google.com ~all"
              spf2.example.com 300 IN TXT "v=spf1 include:et._spf.pardot.com include:sendgrid.net include:spf.mandrillapp.com include:mailsenders.netsuite.com ~all"


              And set your SPF record to something like...



              "v=spf1 ip4:206.190.89.129/27 ip4:54.86.80.254/32 ip4:13.111.0.56/32 include:spf1.example.com include:spf2.example.com ~all"


              The danger to records this large is that the SPF RFC 7208 says in section 4.6.4 that only 10 modifiers that require DNS lookups will be honored by systems doing SPF checks. The google SPF record I quoted includes huge lists of netblocks specifically to avoid hitting this limit, and the rest of your includes all point to netblocks. The SPF record you quoted is at 7 all by itself, and the google include adds 3 more (they have a lot of netblocks).



              You're at 10 already. Unfortunately, using the method I mention here will add two more and put you into the zone where mail receivers may not fully query all of your authorized netblocks. You're fast approaching the area where SPF stops being a viable method of control and you'll need to do something like dmarc in order to get the non-repudiation you need. In that case you'd use an SPF record with "v=spf1 +all" which tells mailers that you don't actually care who sends your email and you're using something else. When paired with dkim and DMARC, you get the nonrepudation features you're looking for.






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                This is typically handled by creating multiple TXT records. You can see _spf.google.com do it.



                "v=spf1 include:_netblocks.google.com include:_netblocks2.google.com include:_netblocks3.google.com ~all"


                In your case you would create new TXT records similar to...



                spf1.example.com 300 IN TXT "v=spf1 include:mail.zendesk.com include:stspg-customer.com include:_spf.google.com ~all"
                spf2.example.com 300 IN TXT "v=spf1 include:et._spf.pardot.com include:sendgrid.net include:spf.mandrillapp.com include:mailsenders.netsuite.com ~all"


                And set your SPF record to something like...



                "v=spf1 ip4:206.190.89.129/27 ip4:54.86.80.254/32 ip4:13.111.0.56/32 include:spf1.example.com include:spf2.example.com ~all"


                The danger to records this large is that the SPF RFC 7208 says in section 4.6.4 that only 10 modifiers that require DNS lookups will be honored by systems doing SPF checks. The google SPF record I quoted includes huge lists of netblocks specifically to avoid hitting this limit, and the rest of your includes all point to netblocks. The SPF record you quoted is at 7 all by itself, and the google include adds 3 more (they have a lot of netblocks).



                You're at 10 already. Unfortunately, using the method I mention here will add two more and put you into the zone where mail receivers may not fully query all of your authorized netblocks. You're fast approaching the area where SPF stops being a viable method of control and you'll need to do something like dmarc in order to get the non-repudiation you need. In that case you'd use an SPF record with "v=spf1 +all" which tells mailers that you don't actually care who sends your email and you're using something else. When paired with dkim and DMARC, you get the nonrepudation features you're looking for.






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                This is typically handled by creating multiple TXT records. You can see _spf.google.com do it.



                "v=spf1 include:_netblocks.google.com include:_netblocks2.google.com include:_netblocks3.google.com ~all"


                In your case you would create new TXT records similar to...



                spf1.example.com 300 IN TXT "v=spf1 include:mail.zendesk.com include:stspg-customer.com include:_spf.google.com ~all"
                spf2.example.com 300 IN TXT "v=spf1 include:et._spf.pardot.com include:sendgrid.net include:spf.mandrillapp.com include:mailsenders.netsuite.com ~all"


                And set your SPF record to something like...



                "v=spf1 ip4:206.190.89.129/27 ip4:54.86.80.254/32 ip4:13.111.0.56/32 include:spf1.example.com include:spf2.example.com ~all"


                The danger to records this large is that the SPF RFC 7208 says in section 4.6.4 that only 10 modifiers that require DNS lookups will be honored by systems doing SPF checks. The google SPF record I quoted includes huge lists of netblocks specifically to avoid hitting this limit, and the rest of your includes all point to netblocks. The SPF record you quoted is at 7 all by itself, and the google include adds 3 more (they have a lot of netblocks).



                You're at 10 already. Unfortunately, using the method I mention here will add two more and put you into the zone where mail receivers may not fully query all of your authorized netblocks. You're fast approaching the area where SPF stops being a viable method of control and you'll need to do something like dmarc in order to get the non-repudiation you need. In that case you'd use an SPF record with "v=spf1 +all" which tells mailers that you don't actually care who sends your email and you're using something else. When paired with dkim and DMARC, you get the nonrepudation features you're looking for.







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