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How did Doctor Strange see the winning outcome in Avengers: Infinity War?
The Next CEO of Stack OverflowHow many times did Doctor Strange “loop”?Would the Ancient One have defended the Earth from a Chitauri invasion in the Avengers absence?How many named characters died in Avengers: Infinity War?Why doesn't Doctor Strange remove the Infinity Gauntlet from Thanos?How did Thor in Infinity War know that the Time Stone was with the Avengers?Did Avengers: Infinity War ignore the locations/distances set in Guardians of the Galaxy?Was Thanos really waiting for all these characters to die?One possible future or multiple ones?Why did Thanos slaughter half of this population at the start of Avengers: Infinity War?Why didn't Doctor Strange die in space in the movie Avengers Infinity War?
In Doctor Strange we see that the Masters of the Mystic Arts can see into the past and the future, and we know that the Ancient One was able to see into the future as well, but only up to her death. She said herself that in all the possible futures she was never able to get past that point.
So if this is true for the Ancient One, then how did Doctor Strange figure out how Thanos was gonna die/everyone would stay alive in the end if he died before it happened? Does it have something to do with directly using the Time Stone?
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In Doctor Strange we see that the Masters of the Mystic Arts can see into the past and the future, and we know that the Ancient One was able to see into the future as well, but only up to her death. She said herself that in all the possible futures she was never able to get past that point.
So if this is true for the Ancient One, then how did Doctor Strange figure out how Thanos was gonna die/everyone would stay alive in the end if he died before it happened? Does it have something to do with directly using the Time Stone?
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Hi, welcome to SF&F! I hope you get an answer to this question, but it might be hard to answer based on what is officially (canonically) already known from the movies. If you would consider answers based on comics as well, you might note that in your question.
– DavidW
yesterday
2
IIRC a very similar question, if not an exact duplicate already exists (though maybe on movie.se). Found the duplicate
– XtremeBaumer
yesterday
I found that question actually and while I think this question was pretty similar to it, I actually prefer the accepted answer here. I somehow missed that you can see others futures as well not just your own with the time stone lol.
– B. Lalonde
yesterday
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I am guessing… magic.
– Lexible
yesterday
add a comment |
In Doctor Strange we see that the Masters of the Mystic Arts can see into the past and the future, and we know that the Ancient One was able to see into the future as well, but only up to her death. She said herself that in all the possible futures she was never able to get past that point.
So if this is true for the Ancient One, then how did Doctor Strange figure out how Thanos was gonna die/everyone would stay alive in the end if he died before it happened? Does it have something to do with directly using the Time Stone?
marvel marvel-cinematic-universe avengers-infinity-war doctor-strange
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In Doctor Strange we see that the Masters of the Mystic Arts can see into the past and the future, and we know that the Ancient One was able to see into the future as well, but only up to her death. She said herself that in all the possible futures she was never able to get past that point.
So if this is true for the Ancient One, then how did Doctor Strange figure out how Thanos was gonna die/everyone would stay alive in the end if he died before it happened? Does it have something to do with directly using the Time Stone?
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Hi, welcome to SF&F! I hope you get an answer to this question, but it might be hard to answer based on what is officially (canonically) already known from the movies. If you would consider answers based on comics as well, you might note that in your question.
– DavidW
yesterday
2
IIRC a very similar question, if not an exact duplicate already exists (though maybe on movie.se). Found the duplicate
– XtremeBaumer
yesterday
I found that question actually and while I think this question was pretty similar to it, I actually prefer the accepted answer here. I somehow missed that you can see others futures as well not just your own with the time stone lol.
– B. Lalonde
yesterday
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I am guessing… magic.
– Lexible
yesterday
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2
Hi, welcome to SF&F! I hope you get an answer to this question, but it might be hard to answer based on what is officially (canonically) already known from the movies. If you would consider answers based on comics as well, you might note that in your question.
– DavidW
yesterday
2
IIRC a very similar question, if not an exact duplicate already exists (though maybe on movie.se). Found the duplicate
– XtremeBaumer
yesterday
I found that question actually and while I think this question was pretty similar to it, I actually prefer the accepted answer here. I somehow missed that you can see others futures as well not just your own with the time stone lol.
– B. Lalonde
yesterday
1
I am guessing… magic.
– Lexible
yesterday
2
2
Hi, welcome to SF&F! I hope you get an answer to this question, but it might be hard to answer based on what is officially (canonically) already known from the movies. If you would consider answers based on comics as well, you might note that in your question.
– DavidW
yesterday
Hi, welcome to SF&F! I hope you get an answer to this question, but it might be hard to answer based on what is officially (canonically) already known from the movies. If you would consider answers based on comics as well, you might note that in your question.
– DavidW
yesterday
2
2
IIRC a very similar question, if not an exact duplicate already exists (though maybe on movie.se). Found the duplicate
– XtremeBaumer
yesterday
IIRC a very similar question, if not an exact duplicate already exists (though maybe on movie.se). Found the duplicate
– XtremeBaumer
yesterday
I found that question actually and while I think this question was pretty similar to it, I actually prefer the accepted answer here. I somehow missed that you can see others futures as well not just your own with the time stone lol.
– B. Lalonde
yesterday
I found that question actually and while I think this question was pretty similar to it, I actually prefer the accepted answer here. I somehow missed that you can see others futures as well not just your own with the time stone lol.
– B. Lalonde
yesterday
1
1
I am guessing… magic.
– Lexible
yesterday
I am guessing… magic.
– Lexible
yesterday
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There doesn't seem to be any contradiction with what we see Doctor Strange do and the quote by The Ancient One. This is the conversation in Doctor Strange:
The Ancient One: I've spent so many years peering through time, looking at this exact moment. But I can't see past it. I've prevented countless terrible futures and after each one there's always another, and they all lead here but never further.
Strange: You think this is where you die.
The Ancient One: You wonder what I see in your future?
Strange: No. Yes.
The Ancient One: I never saw your future, only its possibilities. You have such a capacity for goodness. You've always excelled, but not because you crave success but because of your fear of failure.
Doctor Strange
The Ancient One is looking into her future and can't see past the point where she dies for her own future. However, she can see past the point in Doctor Strange's future and see his possible futures. This is in line with what we see him do in Avengers: Infinity War in that he looks into the possible futures for the whole team and how they win not necessarily his own future.
Doctor Strange: [panting] I went forward in time to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the coming conflict.
Peter Quill: How many did you see?
Doctor Strange: 14,000,605.
Tony Stark: How many did we win?
[Strange stares intently at Tony for a moment]
Strange: [pause] One.
Avengers: Infinity War
It's also worth noting that Strange uses the Time Stone to see into the future whereas it appears that The Ancient One doesn't use it and so this likely plays a part in it too.
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I'd quibble slightly on the last observation. The Ancient One didn't have the Eye of Agamotto (Time Stone) when this conversation took place, but if anyone could "check it out of the library" for her own meditations over the years, that person would be the Ancient One.
– Blaze
yesterday
@Blaze Been a while since I watched Doctor Strange but I had the impression she didn't/wouldn't use it. Could be wrong though, In either case, however, it is mainly a side point here.
– TheLethalCarrot
yesterday
1
I would hazard a guess that the first time they found the time stone, they tried using it, realized what it was (and subsequently researched the other infinity stones as well), and then agreed that it was too dangerous in anyones hands so they just kept it locked up/guarded it.
– B. Lalonde
yesterday
@B.Lalonde But TAO was known to... dabble... in things she potentially shouldn't have.
– Möoz
23 hours ago
2
At least in the comics, the soul stone is known to hold the Soul World, a mini universe inside the stone. If the cinematic universe follows that lead, I (and a lot more people) guess the poeple who were turned to dust are actually inside the stone and not really dead. Thus, Dr. Strange wouldn't be dead and there would be no contradiction.
– Filipe Nicoli
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There doesn't seem to be any contradiction with what we see Doctor Strange do and the quote by The Ancient One. This is the conversation in Doctor Strange:
The Ancient One: I've spent so many years peering through time, looking at this exact moment. But I can't see past it. I've prevented countless terrible futures and after each one there's always another, and they all lead here but never further.
Strange: You think this is where you die.
The Ancient One: You wonder what I see in your future?
Strange: No. Yes.
The Ancient One: I never saw your future, only its possibilities. You have such a capacity for goodness. You've always excelled, but not because you crave success but because of your fear of failure.
Doctor Strange
The Ancient One is looking into her future and can't see past the point where she dies for her own future. However, she can see past the point in Doctor Strange's future and see his possible futures. This is in line with what we see him do in Avengers: Infinity War in that he looks into the possible futures for the whole team and how they win not necessarily his own future.
Doctor Strange: [panting] I went forward in time to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the coming conflict.
Peter Quill: How many did you see?
Doctor Strange: 14,000,605.
Tony Stark: How many did we win?
[Strange stares intently at Tony for a moment]
Strange: [pause] One.
Avengers: Infinity War
It's also worth noting that Strange uses the Time Stone to see into the future whereas it appears that The Ancient One doesn't use it and so this likely plays a part in it too.
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I'd quibble slightly on the last observation. The Ancient One didn't have the Eye of Agamotto (Time Stone) when this conversation took place, but if anyone could "check it out of the library" for her own meditations over the years, that person would be the Ancient One.
– Blaze
yesterday
@Blaze Been a while since I watched Doctor Strange but I had the impression she didn't/wouldn't use it. Could be wrong though, In either case, however, it is mainly a side point here.
– TheLethalCarrot
yesterday
1
I would hazard a guess that the first time they found the time stone, they tried using it, realized what it was (and subsequently researched the other infinity stones as well), and then agreed that it was too dangerous in anyones hands so they just kept it locked up/guarded it.
– B. Lalonde
yesterday
@B.Lalonde But TAO was known to... dabble... in things she potentially shouldn't have.
– Möoz
23 hours ago
2
At least in the comics, the soul stone is known to hold the Soul World, a mini universe inside the stone. If the cinematic universe follows that lead, I (and a lot more people) guess the poeple who were turned to dust are actually inside the stone and not really dead. Thus, Dr. Strange wouldn't be dead and there would be no contradiction.
– Filipe Nicoli
20 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
There doesn't seem to be any contradiction with what we see Doctor Strange do and the quote by The Ancient One. This is the conversation in Doctor Strange:
The Ancient One: I've spent so many years peering through time, looking at this exact moment. But I can't see past it. I've prevented countless terrible futures and after each one there's always another, and they all lead here but never further.
Strange: You think this is where you die.
The Ancient One: You wonder what I see in your future?
Strange: No. Yes.
The Ancient One: I never saw your future, only its possibilities. You have such a capacity for goodness. You've always excelled, but not because you crave success but because of your fear of failure.
Doctor Strange
The Ancient One is looking into her future and can't see past the point where she dies for her own future. However, she can see past the point in Doctor Strange's future and see his possible futures. This is in line with what we see him do in Avengers: Infinity War in that he looks into the possible futures for the whole team and how they win not necessarily his own future.
Doctor Strange: [panting] I went forward in time to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the coming conflict.
Peter Quill: How many did you see?
Doctor Strange: 14,000,605.
Tony Stark: How many did we win?
[Strange stares intently at Tony for a moment]
Strange: [pause] One.
Avengers: Infinity War
It's also worth noting that Strange uses the Time Stone to see into the future whereas it appears that The Ancient One doesn't use it and so this likely plays a part in it too.
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I'd quibble slightly on the last observation. The Ancient One didn't have the Eye of Agamotto (Time Stone) when this conversation took place, but if anyone could "check it out of the library" for her own meditations over the years, that person would be the Ancient One.
– Blaze
yesterday
@Blaze Been a while since I watched Doctor Strange but I had the impression she didn't/wouldn't use it. Could be wrong though, In either case, however, it is mainly a side point here.
– TheLethalCarrot
yesterday
1
I would hazard a guess that the first time they found the time stone, they tried using it, realized what it was (and subsequently researched the other infinity stones as well), and then agreed that it was too dangerous in anyones hands so they just kept it locked up/guarded it.
– B. Lalonde
yesterday
@B.Lalonde But TAO was known to... dabble... in things she potentially shouldn't have.
– Möoz
23 hours ago
2
At least in the comics, the soul stone is known to hold the Soul World, a mini universe inside the stone. If the cinematic universe follows that lead, I (and a lot more people) guess the poeple who were turned to dust are actually inside the stone and not really dead. Thus, Dr. Strange wouldn't be dead and there would be no contradiction.
– Filipe Nicoli
20 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
There doesn't seem to be any contradiction with what we see Doctor Strange do and the quote by The Ancient One. This is the conversation in Doctor Strange:
The Ancient One: I've spent so many years peering through time, looking at this exact moment. But I can't see past it. I've prevented countless terrible futures and after each one there's always another, and they all lead here but never further.
Strange: You think this is where you die.
The Ancient One: You wonder what I see in your future?
Strange: No. Yes.
The Ancient One: I never saw your future, only its possibilities. You have such a capacity for goodness. You've always excelled, but not because you crave success but because of your fear of failure.
Doctor Strange
The Ancient One is looking into her future and can't see past the point where she dies for her own future. However, she can see past the point in Doctor Strange's future and see his possible futures. This is in line with what we see him do in Avengers: Infinity War in that he looks into the possible futures for the whole team and how they win not necessarily his own future.
Doctor Strange: [panting] I went forward in time to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the coming conflict.
Peter Quill: How many did you see?
Doctor Strange: 14,000,605.
Tony Stark: How many did we win?
[Strange stares intently at Tony for a moment]
Strange: [pause] One.
Avengers: Infinity War
It's also worth noting that Strange uses the Time Stone to see into the future whereas it appears that The Ancient One doesn't use it and so this likely plays a part in it too.
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There doesn't seem to be any contradiction with what we see Doctor Strange do and the quote by The Ancient One. This is the conversation in Doctor Strange:
The Ancient One: I've spent so many years peering through time, looking at this exact moment. But I can't see past it. I've prevented countless terrible futures and after each one there's always another, and they all lead here but never further.
Strange: You think this is where you die.
The Ancient One: You wonder what I see in your future?
Strange: No. Yes.
The Ancient One: I never saw your future, only its possibilities. You have such a capacity for goodness. You've always excelled, but not because you crave success but because of your fear of failure.
Doctor Strange
The Ancient One is looking into her future and can't see past the point where she dies for her own future. However, she can see past the point in Doctor Strange's future and see his possible futures. This is in line with what we see him do in Avengers: Infinity War in that he looks into the possible futures for the whole team and how they win not necessarily his own future.
Doctor Strange: [panting] I went forward in time to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the coming conflict.
Peter Quill: How many did you see?
Doctor Strange: 14,000,605.
Tony Stark: How many did we win?
[Strange stares intently at Tony for a moment]
Strange: [pause] One.
Avengers: Infinity War
It's also worth noting that Strange uses the Time Stone to see into the future whereas it appears that The Ancient One doesn't use it and so this likely plays a part in it too.
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I'd quibble slightly on the last observation. The Ancient One didn't have the Eye of Agamotto (Time Stone) when this conversation took place, but if anyone could "check it out of the library" for her own meditations over the years, that person would be the Ancient One.
– Blaze
yesterday
@Blaze Been a while since I watched Doctor Strange but I had the impression she didn't/wouldn't use it. Could be wrong though, In either case, however, it is mainly a side point here.
– TheLethalCarrot
yesterday
1
I would hazard a guess that the first time they found the time stone, they tried using it, realized what it was (and subsequently researched the other infinity stones as well), and then agreed that it was too dangerous in anyones hands so they just kept it locked up/guarded it.
– B. Lalonde
yesterday
@B.Lalonde But TAO was known to... dabble... in things she potentially shouldn't have.
– Möoz
23 hours ago
2
At least in the comics, the soul stone is known to hold the Soul World, a mini universe inside the stone. If the cinematic universe follows that lead, I (and a lot more people) guess the poeple who were turned to dust are actually inside the stone and not really dead. Thus, Dr. Strange wouldn't be dead and there would be no contradiction.
– Filipe Nicoli
20 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
6
I'd quibble slightly on the last observation. The Ancient One didn't have the Eye of Agamotto (Time Stone) when this conversation took place, but if anyone could "check it out of the library" for her own meditations over the years, that person would be the Ancient One.
– Blaze
yesterday
@Blaze Been a while since I watched Doctor Strange but I had the impression she didn't/wouldn't use it. Could be wrong though, In either case, however, it is mainly a side point here.
– TheLethalCarrot
yesterday
1
I would hazard a guess that the first time they found the time stone, they tried using it, realized what it was (and subsequently researched the other infinity stones as well), and then agreed that it was too dangerous in anyones hands so they just kept it locked up/guarded it.
– B. Lalonde
yesterday
@B.Lalonde But TAO was known to... dabble... in things she potentially shouldn't have.
– Möoz
23 hours ago
2
At least in the comics, the soul stone is known to hold the Soul World, a mini universe inside the stone. If the cinematic universe follows that lead, I (and a lot more people) guess the poeple who were turned to dust are actually inside the stone and not really dead. Thus, Dr. Strange wouldn't be dead and there would be no contradiction.
– Filipe Nicoli
20 hours ago
6
6
I'd quibble slightly on the last observation. The Ancient One didn't have the Eye of Agamotto (Time Stone) when this conversation took place, but if anyone could "check it out of the library" for her own meditations over the years, that person would be the Ancient One.
– Blaze
yesterday
I'd quibble slightly on the last observation. The Ancient One didn't have the Eye of Agamotto (Time Stone) when this conversation took place, but if anyone could "check it out of the library" for her own meditations over the years, that person would be the Ancient One.
– Blaze
yesterday
@Blaze Been a while since I watched Doctor Strange but I had the impression she didn't/wouldn't use it. Could be wrong though, In either case, however, it is mainly a side point here.
– TheLethalCarrot
yesterday
@Blaze Been a while since I watched Doctor Strange but I had the impression she didn't/wouldn't use it. Could be wrong though, In either case, however, it is mainly a side point here.
– TheLethalCarrot
yesterday
1
1
I would hazard a guess that the first time they found the time stone, they tried using it, realized what it was (and subsequently researched the other infinity stones as well), and then agreed that it was too dangerous in anyones hands so they just kept it locked up/guarded it.
– B. Lalonde
yesterday
I would hazard a guess that the first time they found the time stone, they tried using it, realized what it was (and subsequently researched the other infinity stones as well), and then agreed that it was too dangerous in anyones hands so they just kept it locked up/guarded it.
– B. Lalonde
yesterday
@B.Lalonde But TAO was known to... dabble... in things she potentially shouldn't have.
– Möoz
23 hours ago
@B.Lalonde But TAO was known to... dabble... in things she potentially shouldn't have.
– Möoz
23 hours ago
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At least in the comics, the soul stone is known to hold the Soul World, a mini universe inside the stone. If the cinematic universe follows that lead, I (and a lot more people) guess the poeple who were turned to dust are actually inside the stone and not really dead. Thus, Dr. Strange wouldn't be dead and there would be no contradiction.
– Filipe Nicoli
20 hours ago
At least in the comics, the soul stone is known to hold the Soul World, a mini universe inside the stone. If the cinematic universe follows that lead, I (and a lot more people) guess the poeple who were turned to dust are actually inside the stone and not really dead. Thus, Dr. Strange wouldn't be dead and there would be no contradiction.
– Filipe Nicoli
20 hours ago
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Hi, welcome to SF&F! I hope you get an answer to this question, but it might be hard to answer based on what is officially (canonically) already known from the movies. If you would consider answers based on comics as well, you might note that in your question.
– DavidW
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IIRC a very similar question, if not an exact duplicate already exists (though maybe on movie.se). Found the duplicate
– XtremeBaumer
yesterday
I found that question actually and while I think this question was pretty similar to it, I actually prefer the accepted answer here. I somehow missed that you can see others futures as well not just your own with the time stone lol.
– B. Lalonde
yesterday
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I am guessing… magic.
– Lexible
yesterday