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What local resources are used when bruteforcing a remote service?
Are there any security measures that are resistant to a brute force attack?Can Hydra and Crunch be used in combination for HTTP-get-form?Ignoring collision and (second) pre-image resistance, what makes a cryptographic hash function strong?John the Ripper getting slowerWhat scenario are 'extra' strong passwords and hashing algorithms actually protecting against?Practically, when good password policies are used, how much is gained from SSH keys?Does a RAM Disk Actually Help When Password Cracking a Small HashAre there bruteforce programs that use letters of other languages? Arabic? Greek?What are the steps needed to crack one password stored in a web appHow do Field Programmable Gate Arrays (FPGAs) compare to Graphics Processing Units (GPUs); for cracking hashes?
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What pc resources are used when bruteforcing ?
I mean bruteforcing something online, not hashes.
Do you need a good amount a RAM and a good CPU or it's just about the internet speed ?
passwords brute-force password-cracking
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What pc resources are used when bruteforcing ?
I mean bruteforcing something online, not hashes.
Do you need a good amount a RAM and a good CPU or it's just about the internet speed ?
passwords brute-force password-cracking
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"I mean bruteforcing something online" What, specifically? The answer may be different for bruteforcing a username/password login, versus bruteforcing credit card transactions, vs anything else.
– dwizum
May 20 at 15:20
add a comment |
What pc resources are used when bruteforcing ?
I mean bruteforcing something online, not hashes.
Do you need a good amount a RAM and a good CPU or it's just about the internet speed ?
passwords brute-force password-cracking
What pc resources are used when bruteforcing ?
I mean bruteforcing something online, not hashes.
Do you need a good amount a RAM and a good CPU or it's just about the internet speed ?
passwords brute-force password-cracking
passwords brute-force password-cracking
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"I mean bruteforcing something online" What, specifically? The answer may be different for bruteforcing a username/password login, versus bruteforcing credit card transactions, vs anything else.
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May 20 at 15:20
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"I mean bruteforcing something online" What, specifically? The answer may be different for bruteforcing a username/password login, versus bruteforcing credit card transactions, vs anything else.
– dwizum
May 20 at 15:20
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"I mean bruteforcing something online" What, specifically? The answer may be different for bruteforcing a username/password login, versus bruteforcing credit card transactions, vs anything else.
– dwizum
May 20 at 15:20
"I mean bruteforcing something online" What, specifically? The answer may be different for bruteforcing a username/password login, versus bruteforcing credit card transactions, vs anything else.
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Well, unless the site you are bruteforcing is potato, it will have rate limits locking you out after a few attempts. So the biggest resource will be the number of IP addresses you can get, to circumvent the lockout. (assuming IP is used to block)
If there is no limit, then it will likely be internet speed. Though under some extremely rare circumstances, it may be something else.
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One of the only "extremely rare circumstances" I can think of is having physical access to the network the servers are on to connect to it directly with Ethernet, but I think getting the hashes would be easier than that...
– Redwolf Programs
May 19 at 18:37
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Well, I was actually thinking something like the SCRAM protocol, where the client has to do pbkdf2 on his end, or even a variant with argon2 with high memory usage.
– Peter Harmann
May 20 at 0:36
Some sites will lock the account instead of blocking the IP after a number of tries. In that case, no amount of IP-addresses will help. You will also get no further with a supercomputer than a raspberry pi
– Suppen
May 20 at 6:57
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@Suppen Yes, but that brings its own problems - it's basically a free DoS attack on the site. A simple "one login per second" is usually a lot better compromise between security and actually being able to use the service :D
– Luaan
May 20 at 7:28
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Well, unless the site you are bruteforcing is potato, it will have rate limits locking you out after a few attempts. So the biggest resource will be the number of IP addresses you can get, to circumvent the lockout. (assuming IP is used to block)
If there is no limit, then it will likely be internet speed. Though under some extremely rare circumstances, it may be something else.
7
One of the only "extremely rare circumstances" I can think of is having physical access to the network the servers are on to connect to it directly with Ethernet, but I think getting the hashes would be easier than that...
– Redwolf Programs
May 19 at 18:37
5
Well, I was actually thinking something like the SCRAM protocol, where the client has to do pbkdf2 on his end, or even a variant with argon2 with high memory usage.
– Peter Harmann
May 20 at 0:36
Some sites will lock the account instead of blocking the IP after a number of tries. In that case, no amount of IP-addresses will help. You will also get no further with a supercomputer than a raspberry pi
– Suppen
May 20 at 6:57
9
@Suppen Yes, but that brings its own problems - it's basically a free DoS attack on the site. A simple "one login per second" is usually a lot better compromise between security and actually being able to use the service :D
– Luaan
May 20 at 7:28
add a comment |
Well, unless the site you are bruteforcing is potato, it will have rate limits locking you out after a few attempts. So the biggest resource will be the number of IP addresses you can get, to circumvent the lockout. (assuming IP is used to block)
If there is no limit, then it will likely be internet speed. Though under some extremely rare circumstances, it may be something else.
7
One of the only "extremely rare circumstances" I can think of is having physical access to the network the servers are on to connect to it directly with Ethernet, but I think getting the hashes would be easier than that...
– Redwolf Programs
May 19 at 18:37
5
Well, I was actually thinking something like the SCRAM protocol, where the client has to do pbkdf2 on his end, or even a variant with argon2 with high memory usage.
– Peter Harmann
May 20 at 0:36
Some sites will lock the account instead of blocking the IP after a number of tries. In that case, no amount of IP-addresses will help. You will also get no further with a supercomputer than a raspberry pi
– Suppen
May 20 at 6:57
9
@Suppen Yes, but that brings its own problems - it's basically a free DoS attack on the site. A simple "one login per second" is usually a lot better compromise between security and actually being able to use the service :D
– Luaan
May 20 at 7:28
add a comment |
Well, unless the site you are bruteforcing is potato, it will have rate limits locking you out after a few attempts. So the biggest resource will be the number of IP addresses you can get, to circumvent the lockout. (assuming IP is used to block)
If there is no limit, then it will likely be internet speed. Though under some extremely rare circumstances, it may be something else.
Well, unless the site you are bruteforcing is potato, it will have rate limits locking you out after a few attempts. So the biggest resource will be the number of IP addresses you can get, to circumvent the lockout. (assuming IP is used to block)
If there is no limit, then it will likely be internet speed. Though under some extremely rare circumstances, it may be something else.
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answered May 19 at 14:00
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One of the only "extremely rare circumstances" I can think of is having physical access to the network the servers are on to connect to it directly with Ethernet, but I think getting the hashes would be easier than that...
– Redwolf Programs
May 19 at 18:37
5
Well, I was actually thinking something like the SCRAM protocol, where the client has to do pbkdf2 on his end, or even a variant with argon2 with high memory usage.
– Peter Harmann
May 20 at 0:36
Some sites will lock the account instead of blocking the IP after a number of tries. In that case, no amount of IP-addresses will help. You will also get no further with a supercomputer than a raspberry pi
– Suppen
May 20 at 6:57
9
@Suppen Yes, but that brings its own problems - it's basically a free DoS attack on the site. A simple "one login per second" is usually a lot better compromise between security and actually being able to use the service :D
– Luaan
May 20 at 7:28
add a comment |
7
One of the only "extremely rare circumstances" I can think of is having physical access to the network the servers are on to connect to it directly with Ethernet, but I think getting the hashes would be easier than that...
– Redwolf Programs
May 19 at 18:37
5
Well, I was actually thinking something like the SCRAM protocol, where the client has to do pbkdf2 on his end, or even a variant with argon2 with high memory usage.
– Peter Harmann
May 20 at 0:36
Some sites will lock the account instead of blocking the IP after a number of tries. In that case, no amount of IP-addresses will help. You will also get no further with a supercomputer than a raspberry pi
– Suppen
May 20 at 6:57
9
@Suppen Yes, but that brings its own problems - it's basically a free DoS attack on the site. A simple "one login per second" is usually a lot better compromise between security and actually being able to use the service :D
– Luaan
May 20 at 7:28
7
7
One of the only "extremely rare circumstances" I can think of is having physical access to the network the servers are on to connect to it directly with Ethernet, but I think getting the hashes would be easier than that...
– Redwolf Programs
May 19 at 18:37
One of the only "extremely rare circumstances" I can think of is having physical access to the network the servers are on to connect to it directly with Ethernet, but I think getting the hashes would be easier than that...
– Redwolf Programs
May 19 at 18:37
5
5
Well, I was actually thinking something like the SCRAM protocol, where the client has to do pbkdf2 on his end, or even a variant with argon2 with high memory usage.
– Peter Harmann
May 20 at 0:36
Well, I was actually thinking something like the SCRAM protocol, where the client has to do pbkdf2 on his end, or even a variant with argon2 with high memory usage.
– Peter Harmann
May 20 at 0:36
Some sites will lock the account instead of blocking the IP after a number of tries. In that case, no amount of IP-addresses will help. You will also get no further with a supercomputer than a raspberry pi
– Suppen
May 20 at 6:57
Some sites will lock the account instead of blocking the IP after a number of tries. In that case, no amount of IP-addresses will help. You will also get no further with a supercomputer than a raspberry pi
– Suppen
May 20 at 6:57
9
9
@Suppen Yes, but that brings its own problems - it's basically a free DoS attack on the site. A simple "one login per second" is usually a lot better compromise between security and actually being able to use the service :D
– Luaan
May 20 at 7:28
@Suppen Yes, but that brings its own problems - it's basically a free DoS attack on the site. A simple "one login per second" is usually a lot better compromise between security and actually being able to use the service :D
– Luaan
May 20 at 7:28
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"I mean bruteforcing something online" What, specifically? The answer may be different for bruteforcing a username/password login, versus bruteforcing credit card transactions, vs anything else.
– dwizum
May 20 at 15:20