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How to clone a drive including grub/bootloader, not including unused space, in a realistic timeframe? [on hold]


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I'm upgrading from a Inland 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD to a HP EX900 NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB. In the past I've used Clonezilla to save an image on old drives as backup but this time it's struggling.



I booted Clonezilla from a USB and selected the disk-disk option like normal. It started out decently well at ~60 gigs/min but only made it to 10% before dropping to 600 mb/min. It's now been running for 8 hours and has '>65 hours left'.



I know there's nothing wrong with the drives as I used them both minutes before starting the clone. The 256 drive has ubuntu18 and the 500 drive did have win10. The Clonezilla stable version was downloaded only a few months ago.



What's wrong with my Clonezilla approach? How come the speed degrades so drastically? How can I get it to only cloned unused sectors? Edit: thanks for the dd suggestions but it needs to not copy unused sectors.










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  • Have you thought of using dd? It does what you want and should be fast enough for your use case. AFAIK it's not possible to copy a drive block by block AND to have it check for non empty blocks. Or rather there is no tool that does it.

    – Gothrek
    May 14 at 17:31











  • dd is the primary suggestion I've been getting. Does it also copy empty blocks? Or is there another util that doesn't but will also preserve grub/bootladers?

    – Garglesoap
    May 14 at 17:33











  • dd is pretty "dumb", it goes block by block through the whole device and copies everything. It's the de facto standard for such cases. Keep in mind that you might have issues expanding partitions on the new drive, if they are not the last partition there.

    – Gothrek
    May 14 at 17:35











  • jeez that's ANOTHER issue with dd/clonezilla. I'm amazed there's no common imaging tool for data only sections. Or I'm sure there is, but how come no one knows about it?

    – Garglesoap
    May 14 at 17:42











  • You might get some speedup when using the sparse flag in dd. OTOH this might be a better way, the answer by teeks99: superuser.com/questions/709176/… Do mind that you should run without the delete flag.

    – Gothrek
    May 14 at 17:48

















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I'm upgrading from a Inland 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD to a HP EX900 NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB. In the past I've used Clonezilla to save an image on old drives as backup but this time it's struggling.



I booted Clonezilla from a USB and selected the disk-disk option like normal. It started out decently well at ~60 gigs/min but only made it to 10% before dropping to 600 mb/min. It's now been running for 8 hours and has '>65 hours left'.



I know there's nothing wrong with the drives as I used them both minutes before starting the clone. The 256 drive has ubuntu18 and the 500 drive did have win10. The Clonezilla stable version was downloaded only a few months ago.



What's wrong with my Clonezilla approach? How come the speed degrades so drastically? How can I get it to only cloned unused sectors? Edit: thanks for the dd suggestions but it needs to not copy unused sectors.










share|improve this question















put on hold as off-topic by Michael Hampton May 23 at 0:41


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "Questions on Server Fault must be about managing information technology systems in a business environment. Home and end-user computing questions may be asked on Super User, and questions about development, testing and development tools may be asked on Stack Overflow." – Michael Hampton
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
















  • Have you thought of using dd? It does what you want and should be fast enough for your use case. AFAIK it's not possible to copy a drive block by block AND to have it check for non empty blocks. Or rather there is no tool that does it.

    – Gothrek
    May 14 at 17:31











  • dd is the primary suggestion I've been getting. Does it also copy empty blocks? Or is there another util that doesn't but will also preserve grub/bootladers?

    – Garglesoap
    May 14 at 17:33











  • dd is pretty "dumb", it goes block by block through the whole device and copies everything. It's the de facto standard for such cases. Keep in mind that you might have issues expanding partitions on the new drive, if they are not the last partition there.

    – Gothrek
    May 14 at 17:35











  • jeez that's ANOTHER issue with dd/clonezilla. I'm amazed there's no common imaging tool for data only sections. Or I'm sure there is, but how come no one knows about it?

    – Garglesoap
    May 14 at 17:42











  • You might get some speedup when using the sparse flag in dd. OTOH this might be a better way, the answer by teeks99: superuser.com/questions/709176/… Do mind that you should run without the delete flag.

    – Gothrek
    May 14 at 17:48













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I'm upgrading from a Inland 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD to a HP EX900 NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB. In the past I've used Clonezilla to save an image on old drives as backup but this time it's struggling.



I booted Clonezilla from a USB and selected the disk-disk option like normal. It started out decently well at ~60 gigs/min but only made it to 10% before dropping to 600 mb/min. It's now been running for 8 hours and has '>65 hours left'.



I know there's nothing wrong with the drives as I used them both minutes before starting the clone. The 256 drive has ubuntu18 and the 500 drive did have win10. The Clonezilla stable version was downloaded only a few months ago.



What's wrong with my Clonezilla approach? How come the speed degrades so drastically? How can I get it to only cloned unused sectors? Edit: thanks for the dd suggestions but it needs to not copy unused sectors.










share|improve this question
















I'm upgrading from a Inland 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD to a HP EX900 NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB. In the past I've used Clonezilla to save an image on old drives as backup but this time it's struggling.



I booted Clonezilla from a USB and selected the disk-disk option like normal. It started out decently well at ~60 gigs/min but only made it to 10% before dropping to 600 mb/min. It's now been running for 8 hours and has '>65 hours left'.



I know there's nothing wrong with the drives as I used them both minutes before starting the clone. The 256 drive has ubuntu18 and the 500 drive did have win10. The Clonezilla stable version was downloaded only a few months ago.



What's wrong with my Clonezilla approach? How come the speed degrades so drastically? How can I get it to only cloned unused sectors? Edit: thanks for the dd suggestions but it needs to not copy unused sectors.







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put on hold as off-topic by Michael Hampton May 23 at 0:41


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If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.







put on hold as off-topic by Michael Hampton May 23 at 0:41


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "Questions on Server Fault must be about managing information technology systems in a business environment. Home and end-user computing questions may be asked on Super User, and questions about development, testing and development tools may be asked on Stack Overflow." – Michael Hampton
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.












  • Have you thought of using dd? It does what you want and should be fast enough for your use case. AFAIK it's not possible to copy a drive block by block AND to have it check for non empty blocks. Or rather there is no tool that does it.

    – Gothrek
    May 14 at 17:31











  • dd is the primary suggestion I've been getting. Does it also copy empty blocks? Or is there another util that doesn't but will also preserve grub/bootladers?

    – Garglesoap
    May 14 at 17:33











  • dd is pretty "dumb", it goes block by block through the whole device and copies everything. It's the de facto standard for such cases. Keep in mind that you might have issues expanding partitions on the new drive, if they are not the last partition there.

    – Gothrek
    May 14 at 17:35











  • jeez that's ANOTHER issue with dd/clonezilla. I'm amazed there's no common imaging tool for data only sections. Or I'm sure there is, but how come no one knows about it?

    – Garglesoap
    May 14 at 17:42











  • You might get some speedup when using the sparse flag in dd. OTOH this might be a better way, the answer by teeks99: superuser.com/questions/709176/… Do mind that you should run without the delete flag.

    – Gothrek
    May 14 at 17:48

















  • Have you thought of using dd? It does what you want and should be fast enough for your use case. AFAIK it's not possible to copy a drive block by block AND to have it check for non empty blocks. Or rather there is no tool that does it.

    – Gothrek
    May 14 at 17:31











  • dd is the primary suggestion I've been getting. Does it also copy empty blocks? Or is there another util that doesn't but will also preserve grub/bootladers?

    – Garglesoap
    May 14 at 17:33











  • dd is pretty "dumb", it goes block by block through the whole device and copies everything. It's the de facto standard for such cases. Keep in mind that you might have issues expanding partitions on the new drive, if they are not the last partition there.

    – Gothrek
    May 14 at 17:35











  • jeez that's ANOTHER issue with dd/clonezilla. I'm amazed there's no common imaging tool for data only sections. Or I'm sure there is, but how come no one knows about it?

    – Garglesoap
    May 14 at 17:42











  • You might get some speedup when using the sparse flag in dd. OTOH this might be a better way, the answer by teeks99: superuser.com/questions/709176/… Do mind that you should run without the delete flag.

    – Gothrek
    May 14 at 17:48
















Have you thought of using dd? It does what you want and should be fast enough for your use case. AFAIK it's not possible to copy a drive block by block AND to have it check for non empty blocks. Or rather there is no tool that does it.

– Gothrek
May 14 at 17:31





Have you thought of using dd? It does what you want and should be fast enough for your use case. AFAIK it's not possible to copy a drive block by block AND to have it check for non empty blocks. Or rather there is no tool that does it.

– Gothrek
May 14 at 17:31













dd is the primary suggestion I've been getting. Does it also copy empty blocks? Or is there another util that doesn't but will also preserve grub/bootladers?

– Garglesoap
May 14 at 17:33





dd is the primary suggestion I've been getting. Does it also copy empty blocks? Or is there another util that doesn't but will also preserve grub/bootladers?

– Garglesoap
May 14 at 17:33













dd is pretty "dumb", it goes block by block through the whole device and copies everything. It's the de facto standard for such cases. Keep in mind that you might have issues expanding partitions on the new drive, if they are not the last partition there.

– Gothrek
May 14 at 17:35





dd is pretty "dumb", it goes block by block through the whole device and copies everything. It's the de facto standard for such cases. Keep in mind that you might have issues expanding partitions on the new drive, if they are not the last partition there.

– Gothrek
May 14 at 17:35













jeez that's ANOTHER issue with dd/clonezilla. I'm amazed there's no common imaging tool for data only sections. Or I'm sure there is, but how come no one knows about it?

– Garglesoap
May 14 at 17:42





jeez that's ANOTHER issue with dd/clonezilla. I'm amazed there's no common imaging tool for data only sections. Or I'm sure there is, but how come no one knows about it?

– Garglesoap
May 14 at 17:42













You might get some speedup when using the sparse flag in dd. OTOH this might be a better way, the answer by teeks99: superuser.com/questions/709176/… Do mind that you should run without the delete flag.

– Gothrek
May 14 at 17:48





You might get some speedup when using the sparse flag in dd. OTOH this might be a better way, the answer by teeks99: superuser.com/questions/709176/… Do mind that you should run without the delete flag.

– Gothrek
May 14 at 17:48










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