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Write electromagnetic field tensor in terms of four-vector potential


Proof that 4-potential exists from Gauss-Faraday field equationHistory of Electromagnetic Field TensorElectromagnetic field tensor via tensor products?E&M and geometry - a historical perspectiveHow to properly construct the electromagnetic tensor in curved space-time?Can Gauss' and Ampere's Laws be written in terms of the divergence of an energy four-vector?Proof of Jacobi identity for electromagnetic field strength tensorcontravariant components of electromagnetic field tensor under lorentz transformationWhy is the electromagnetic field strength $F_munu=partial_nu A_mu-partial_mu A_nu$ a tensor?Electromagnetic field tensorDerivation of Covariant Maxwell's Equations













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How can we know that the electromagnetic tensor $F_munu$ can be written in terms of a four-vector potential $A_mu$ as $F_mu nu = partial_mu A_nu - partial_nu A_mu$? In the vector calculus approach, this is not really hard to see (under reasonable 'smoothness' conditions on the fields), but I would like to know how one would see this in the four-vector approach.



More specifically, how can we prove (mathematically) that given the electromagnetic tensor, there exists a four-vector such that $F_munu = partial_mu A_nu - partial_nu A_mu$.










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    The EM field is actually a two-form $F$ satisfying Maxwell's equations, one of which is in form notation $dF = 0$. By definition this says that $F$ is a closed form. A form which is $F = dA$ for some $A$ is said exact. Now all exact forms are closed because $d^2 = 0$. On the other hand, Poincare's lemma says that all closed forms are exact if the domain is contractible. Assuming a contractible spacetime implies the existence of the potential from Poincare's lemma
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    This was what I was looking for. Thank you, I will look up Poincare's lemma.
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    @user1620696: $F=dA$ is exact $1$-form by definition. Otherwise you're spot on.
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How can we know that the electromagnetic tensor $F_munu$ can be written in terms of a four-vector potential $A_mu$ as $F_mu nu = partial_mu A_nu - partial_nu A_mu$? In the vector calculus approach, this is not really hard to see (under reasonable 'smoothness' conditions on the fields), but I would like to know how one would see this in the four-vector approach.



More specifically, how can we prove (mathematically) that given the electromagnetic tensor, there exists a four-vector such that $F_munu = partial_mu A_nu - partial_nu A_mu$.










share|cite|improve this question











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    $begingroup$
    The EM field is actually a two-form $F$ satisfying Maxwell's equations, one of which is in form notation $dF = 0$. By definition this says that $F$ is a closed form. A form which is $F = dA$ for some $A$ is said exact. Now all exact forms are closed because $d^2 = 0$. On the other hand, Poincare's lemma says that all closed forms are exact if the domain is contractible. Assuming a contractible spacetime implies the existence of the potential from Poincare's lemma
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    – user1620696
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  • $begingroup$
    This was what I was looking for. Thank you, I will look up Poincare's lemma.
    $endgroup$
    – Lucas L.
    May 15 at 22:00










  • $begingroup$
    @user1620696: $F=dA$ is exact $1$-form by definition. Otherwise you're spot on.
    $endgroup$
    – Cinaed Simson
    May 17 at 8:20














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How can we know that the electromagnetic tensor $F_munu$ can be written in terms of a four-vector potential $A_mu$ as $F_mu nu = partial_mu A_nu - partial_nu A_mu$? In the vector calculus approach, this is not really hard to see (under reasonable 'smoothness' conditions on the fields), but I would like to know how one would see this in the four-vector approach.



More specifically, how can we prove (mathematically) that given the electromagnetic tensor, there exists a four-vector such that $F_munu = partial_mu A_nu - partial_nu A_mu$.










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How can we know that the electromagnetic tensor $F_munu$ can be written in terms of a four-vector potential $A_mu$ as $F_mu nu = partial_mu A_nu - partial_nu A_mu$? In the vector calculus approach, this is not really hard to see (under reasonable 'smoothness' conditions on the fields), but I would like to know how one would see this in the four-vector approach.



More specifically, how can we prove (mathematically) that given the electromagnetic tensor, there exists a four-vector such that $F_munu = partial_mu A_nu - partial_nu A_mu$.







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    The EM field is actually a two-form $F$ satisfying Maxwell's equations, one of which is in form notation $dF = 0$. By definition this says that $F$ is a closed form. A form which is $F = dA$ for some $A$ is said exact. Now all exact forms are closed because $d^2 = 0$. On the other hand, Poincare's lemma says that all closed forms are exact if the domain is contractible. Assuming a contractible spacetime implies the existence of the potential from Poincare's lemma
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    This was what I was looking for. Thank you, I will look up Poincare's lemma.
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    – Lucas L.
    May 15 at 22:00










  • $begingroup$
    @user1620696: $F=dA$ is exact $1$-form by definition. Otherwise you're spot on.
    $endgroup$
    – Cinaed Simson
    May 17 at 8:20













  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The EM field is actually a two-form $F$ satisfying Maxwell's equations, one of which is in form notation $dF = 0$. By definition this says that $F$ is a closed form. A form which is $F = dA$ for some $A$ is said exact. Now all exact forms are closed because $d^2 = 0$. On the other hand, Poincare's lemma says that all closed forms are exact if the domain is contractible. Assuming a contractible spacetime implies the existence of the potential from Poincare's lemma
    $endgroup$
    – user1620696
    May 15 at 21:56










  • $begingroup$
    This was what I was looking for. Thank you, I will look up Poincare's lemma.
    $endgroup$
    – Lucas L.
    May 15 at 22:00










  • $begingroup$
    @user1620696: $F=dA$ is exact $1$-form by definition. Otherwise you're spot on.
    $endgroup$
    – Cinaed Simson
    May 17 at 8:20








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$begingroup$
The EM field is actually a two-form $F$ satisfying Maxwell's equations, one of which is in form notation $dF = 0$. By definition this says that $F$ is a closed form. A form which is $F = dA$ for some $A$ is said exact. Now all exact forms are closed because $d^2 = 0$. On the other hand, Poincare's lemma says that all closed forms are exact if the domain is contractible. Assuming a contractible spacetime implies the existence of the potential from Poincare's lemma
$endgroup$
– user1620696
May 15 at 21:56




$begingroup$
The EM field is actually a two-form $F$ satisfying Maxwell's equations, one of which is in form notation $dF = 0$. By definition this says that $F$ is a closed form. A form which is $F = dA$ for some $A$ is said exact. Now all exact forms are closed because $d^2 = 0$. On the other hand, Poincare's lemma says that all closed forms are exact if the domain is contractible. Assuming a contractible spacetime implies the existence of the potential from Poincare's lemma
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– user1620696
May 15 at 21:56












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This was what I was looking for. Thank you, I will look up Poincare's lemma.
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– Lucas L.
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This was what I was looking for. Thank you, I will look up Poincare's lemma.
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– Lucas L.
May 15 at 22:00












$begingroup$
@user1620696: $F=dA$ is exact $1$-form by definition. Otherwise you're spot on.
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– Cinaed Simson
May 17 at 8:20





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@user1620696: $F=dA$ is exact $1$-form by definition. Otherwise you're spot on.
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The Bianchi identity $mathrmdF~=~0$ together with Poincare lemma guarantee the local existence of $A$ in contractible regions of spacetime. See also this related Phys.SE post.






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    One way to write the homogenous Maxwell's equations is
    with the Levi-Civita symbol $epsilon$:
    $$epsilon^alphabetamunu partial_beta F_munu = 0$$



    Solution to this is obviously (with arbitrary potential $A$):
    $$F_munu = partial_mu A_nu - partial_nu A_mu$$



    It is easy to verify using the antisymmetry of $epsilon^alphabetamunu$
    upon swapping any 2 indexes, together with $partial_mupartial_nu = partial_nupartial_mu$.






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      You are asking "how we know...". This may not be a fair question. We created this formalism. You could also ask how do we know that we can write Maxwell's equations using vectors. Long ago they were not, they were written as a large set of coupled scalar (scalar type) equations. The formalism of vector notation was still evolving and being accepted and one has to PROVE that a set of quantities actually behaves like a vector under coordinate transformations.



      This is a key to understanding the 4-vector approach. There is a scalar E field potential, Phi, and a vector potential A, in classical electrodynamics.



      Once Einstein presented Lorentz invariance in physics (I'm not going to write extensively about that history here) we started on the path of putting all equations in a covariant format. It is the nature of light that governs this invariance, and the postulate that the speed of light is the same for all relatively interital observers. Even Newton's laws of mechanics were elevated to a covariant 4-vector form, as was momentum (E, p) where Energy, E, was thought to be a scalar.



      We know that electromagnetism needs to be Lorentz invariant and this motivates elevating Phi to the time component of a 4-vector, just like E is the time component of 4-momentum. This is also indicated by seeing how the equations transform under Lorentz. The 4-potential (Phi, A) must be as is to obey this symmetry. Then the rest follows.






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        I think you misinterpreted my question. I wanted to ask: how can we prove (mathematically) that given the electromagnetic tensor, there exists a four-vector such that $F^munu = partial^mu A^nu - partial^nu A^mu$. I will edit my question accordingly.
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        I think I did elude to it. Maxwell's equations will actually convert to the field tensor by collecting terms, using (Phi, A).
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        Okay, I am 180 degrees from your intent. Sorry. But it's the same logic as div(B) = 0 and curl(E) = 0. Namely that del(F) = 0 --> F has a potential. Of course you need to get the correct form of the equation, the source free version.
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              One way to write the homogenous Maxwell's equations is
              with the Levi-Civita symbol $epsilon$:
              $$epsilon^alphabetamunu partial_beta F_munu = 0$$



              Solution to this is obviously (with arbitrary potential $A$):
              $$F_munu = partial_mu A_nu - partial_nu A_mu$$



              It is easy to verify using the antisymmetry of $epsilon^alphabetamunu$
              upon swapping any 2 indexes, together with $partial_mupartial_nu = partial_nupartial_mu$.






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                $begingroup$

                One way to write the homogenous Maxwell's equations is
                with the Levi-Civita symbol $epsilon$:
                $$epsilon^alphabetamunu partial_beta F_munu = 0$$



                Solution to this is obviously (with arbitrary potential $A$):
                $$F_munu = partial_mu A_nu - partial_nu A_mu$$



                It is easy to verify using the antisymmetry of $epsilon^alphabetamunu$
                upon swapping any 2 indexes, together with $partial_mupartial_nu = partial_nupartial_mu$.






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                  $begingroup$

                  One way to write the homogenous Maxwell's equations is
                  with the Levi-Civita symbol $epsilon$:
                  $$epsilon^alphabetamunu partial_beta F_munu = 0$$



                  Solution to this is obviously (with arbitrary potential $A$):
                  $$F_munu = partial_mu A_nu - partial_nu A_mu$$



                  It is easy to verify using the antisymmetry of $epsilon^alphabetamunu$
                  upon swapping any 2 indexes, together with $partial_mupartial_nu = partial_nupartial_mu$.






                  share|cite|improve this answer











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                  One way to write the homogenous Maxwell's equations is
                  with the Levi-Civita symbol $epsilon$:
                  $$epsilon^alphabetamunu partial_beta F_munu = 0$$



                  Solution to this is obviously (with arbitrary potential $A$):
                  $$F_munu = partial_mu A_nu - partial_nu A_mu$$



                  It is easy to verify using the antisymmetry of $epsilon^alphabetamunu$
                  upon swapping any 2 indexes, together with $partial_mupartial_nu = partial_nupartial_mu$.







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                      You are asking "how we know...". This may not be a fair question. We created this formalism. You could also ask how do we know that we can write Maxwell's equations using vectors. Long ago they were not, they were written as a large set of coupled scalar (scalar type) equations. The formalism of vector notation was still evolving and being accepted and one has to PROVE that a set of quantities actually behaves like a vector under coordinate transformations.



                      This is a key to understanding the 4-vector approach. There is a scalar E field potential, Phi, and a vector potential A, in classical electrodynamics.



                      Once Einstein presented Lorentz invariance in physics (I'm not going to write extensively about that history here) we started on the path of putting all equations in a covariant format. It is the nature of light that governs this invariance, and the postulate that the speed of light is the same for all relatively interital observers. Even Newton's laws of mechanics were elevated to a covariant 4-vector form, as was momentum (E, p) where Energy, E, was thought to be a scalar.



                      We know that electromagnetism needs to be Lorentz invariant and this motivates elevating Phi to the time component of a 4-vector, just like E is the time component of 4-momentum. This is also indicated by seeing how the equations transform under Lorentz. The 4-potential (Phi, A) must be as is to obey this symmetry. Then the rest follows.






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                        I think you misinterpreted my question. I wanted to ask: how can we prove (mathematically) that given the electromagnetic tensor, there exists a four-vector such that $F^munu = partial^mu A^nu - partial^nu A^mu$. I will edit my question accordingly.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Lucas L.
                        May 15 at 21:55










                      • $begingroup$
                        I think I did elude to it. Maxwell's equations will actually convert to the field tensor by collecting terms, using (Phi, A).
                        $endgroup$
                        – ggcg
                        May 15 at 22:01










                      • $begingroup$
                        Okay, I am 180 degrees from your intent. Sorry. But it's the same logic as div(B) = 0 and curl(E) = 0. Namely that del(F) = 0 --> F has a potential. Of course you need to get the correct form of the equation, the source free version.
                        $endgroup$
                        – ggcg
                        May 15 at 22:03















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                      $begingroup$

                      You are asking "how we know...". This may not be a fair question. We created this formalism. You could also ask how do we know that we can write Maxwell's equations using vectors. Long ago they were not, they were written as a large set of coupled scalar (scalar type) equations. The formalism of vector notation was still evolving and being accepted and one has to PROVE that a set of quantities actually behaves like a vector under coordinate transformations.



                      This is a key to understanding the 4-vector approach. There is a scalar E field potential, Phi, and a vector potential A, in classical electrodynamics.



                      Once Einstein presented Lorentz invariance in physics (I'm not going to write extensively about that history here) we started on the path of putting all equations in a covariant format. It is the nature of light that governs this invariance, and the postulate that the speed of light is the same for all relatively interital observers. Even Newton's laws of mechanics were elevated to a covariant 4-vector form, as was momentum (E, p) where Energy, E, was thought to be a scalar.



                      We know that electromagnetism needs to be Lorentz invariant and this motivates elevating Phi to the time component of a 4-vector, just like E is the time component of 4-momentum. This is also indicated by seeing how the equations transform under Lorentz. The 4-potential (Phi, A) must be as is to obey this symmetry. Then the rest follows.






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                      • $begingroup$
                        I think you misinterpreted my question. I wanted to ask: how can we prove (mathematically) that given the electromagnetic tensor, there exists a four-vector such that $F^munu = partial^mu A^nu - partial^nu A^mu$. I will edit my question accordingly.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Lucas L.
                        May 15 at 21:55










                      • $begingroup$
                        I think I did elude to it. Maxwell's equations will actually convert to the field tensor by collecting terms, using (Phi, A).
                        $endgroup$
                        – ggcg
                        May 15 at 22:01










                      • $begingroup$
                        Okay, I am 180 degrees from your intent. Sorry. But it's the same logic as div(B) = 0 and curl(E) = 0. Namely that del(F) = 0 --> F has a potential. Of course you need to get the correct form of the equation, the source free version.
                        $endgroup$
                        – ggcg
                        May 15 at 22:03













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                      $begingroup$

                      You are asking "how we know...". This may not be a fair question. We created this formalism. You could also ask how do we know that we can write Maxwell's equations using vectors. Long ago they were not, they were written as a large set of coupled scalar (scalar type) equations. The formalism of vector notation was still evolving and being accepted and one has to PROVE that a set of quantities actually behaves like a vector under coordinate transformations.



                      This is a key to understanding the 4-vector approach. There is a scalar E field potential, Phi, and a vector potential A, in classical electrodynamics.



                      Once Einstein presented Lorentz invariance in physics (I'm not going to write extensively about that history here) we started on the path of putting all equations in a covariant format. It is the nature of light that governs this invariance, and the postulate that the speed of light is the same for all relatively interital observers. Even Newton's laws of mechanics were elevated to a covariant 4-vector form, as was momentum (E, p) where Energy, E, was thought to be a scalar.



                      We know that electromagnetism needs to be Lorentz invariant and this motivates elevating Phi to the time component of a 4-vector, just like E is the time component of 4-momentum. This is also indicated by seeing how the equations transform under Lorentz. The 4-potential (Phi, A) must be as is to obey this symmetry. Then the rest follows.






                      share|cite|improve this answer









                      $endgroup$



                      You are asking "how we know...". This may not be a fair question. We created this formalism. You could also ask how do we know that we can write Maxwell's equations using vectors. Long ago they were not, they were written as a large set of coupled scalar (scalar type) equations. The formalism of vector notation was still evolving and being accepted and one has to PROVE that a set of quantities actually behaves like a vector under coordinate transformations.



                      This is a key to understanding the 4-vector approach. There is a scalar E field potential, Phi, and a vector potential A, in classical electrodynamics.



                      Once Einstein presented Lorentz invariance in physics (I'm not going to write extensively about that history here) we started on the path of putting all equations in a covariant format. It is the nature of light that governs this invariance, and the postulate that the speed of light is the same for all relatively interital observers. Even Newton's laws of mechanics were elevated to a covariant 4-vector form, as was momentum (E, p) where Energy, E, was thought to be a scalar.



                      We know that electromagnetism needs to be Lorentz invariant and this motivates elevating Phi to the time component of a 4-vector, just like E is the time component of 4-momentum. This is also indicated by seeing how the equations transform under Lorentz. The 4-potential (Phi, A) must be as is to obey this symmetry. Then the rest follows.







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                        I think you misinterpreted my question. I wanted to ask: how can we prove (mathematically) that given the electromagnetic tensor, there exists a four-vector such that $F^munu = partial^mu A^nu - partial^nu A^mu$. I will edit my question accordingly.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Lucas L.
                        May 15 at 21:55










                      • $begingroup$
                        I think I did elude to it. Maxwell's equations will actually convert to the field tensor by collecting terms, using (Phi, A).
                        $endgroup$
                        – ggcg
                        May 15 at 22:01










                      • $begingroup$
                        Okay, I am 180 degrees from your intent. Sorry. But it's the same logic as div(B) = 0 and curl(E) = 0. Namely that del(F) = 0 --> F has a potential. Of course you need to get the correct form of the equation, the source free version.
                        $endgroup$
                        – ggcg
                        May 15 at 22:03
















                      • $begingroup$
                        I think you misinterpreted my question. I wanted to ask: how can we prove (mathematically) that given the electromagnetic tensor, there exists a four-vector such that $F^munu = partial^mu A^nu - partial^nu A^mu$. I will edit my question accordingly.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Lucas L.
                        May 15 at 21:55










                      • $begingroup$
                        I think I did elude to it. Maxwell's equations will actually convert to the field tensor by collecting terms, using (Phi, A).
                        $endgroup$
                        – ggcg
                        May 15 at 22:01










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                        Okay, I am 180 degrees from your intent. Sorry. But it's the same logic as div(B) = 0 and curl(E) = 0. Namely that del(F) = 0 --> F has a potential. Of course you need to get the correct form of the equation, the source free version.
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                        – ggcg
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                      I think you misinterpreted my question. I wanted to ask: how can we prove (mathematically) that given the electromagnetic tensor, there exists a four-vector such that $F^munu = partial^mu A^nu - partial^nu A^mu$. I will edit my question accordingly.
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                      – Lucas L.
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                      I think you misinterpreted my question. I wanted to ask: how can we prove (mathematically) that given the electromagnetic tensor, there exists a four-vector such that $F^munu = partial^mu A^nu - partial^nu A^mu$. I will edit my question accordingly.
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                      – Lucas L.
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                      I think I did elude to it. Maxwell's equations will actually convert to the field tensor by collecting terms, using (Phi, A).
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                      – ggcg
                      May 15 at 22:01




                      $begingroup$
                      I think I did elude to it. Maxwell's equations will actually convert to the field tensor by collecting terms, using (Phi, A).
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                      – ggcg
                      May 15 at 22:01












                      $begingroup$
                      Okay, I am 180 degrees from your intent. Sorry. But it's the same logic as div(B) = 0 and curl(E) = 0. Namely that del(F) = 0 --> F has a potential. Of course you need to get the correct form of the equation, the source free version.
                      $endgroup$
                      – ggcg
                      May 15 at 22:03




                      $begingroup$
                      Okay, I am 180 degrees from your intent. Sorry. But it's the same logic as div(B) = 0 and curl(E) = 0. Namely that del(F) = 0 --> F has a potential. Of course you need to get the correct form of the equation, the source free version.
                      $endgroup$
                      – ggcg
                      May 15 at 22:03

















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