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I believe this to be a fraud - hired, then asked to cash check and send cash as Bitcoin
The Next CEO of Stack OverflowScam or Real: A woman from Facebook apparently needs my bank account to send moneyHow do scammers retract money, while you can’t?Is this a cashier check scam?Can someone steal my government check and cash it?I received $1000 and was asked to send it back. How was this scam meant to work?Someone wants to send me cash by DHL. How's this scam supposed to work?
I have been 'hired" by Nissan Motor as a key account specialist.
My first assignment is to cash two checks that I have received, which were written by a customer, who has already received the engines. The two checks total $2500. I am to cash the checks, get the money, take out my bonus and any other related expenses and deposit into a Bitcoin ATM. Then make copy of receipt and electronically send to my "manager".
I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, they said they will not get involved, that this is between my and my employer. Advise?
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I have been 'hired" by Nissan Motor as a key account specialist.
My first assignment is to cash two checks that I have received, which were written by a customer, who has already received the engines. The two checks total $2500. I am to cash the checks, get the money, take out my bonus and any other related expenses and deposit into a Bitcoin ATM. Then make copy of receipt and electronically send to my "manager".
I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, they said they will not get involved, that this is between my and my employer. Advise?
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Yes that's a fraud. Go to the police. The checks are fake.
– Ben Voigt
yesterday
3
Possible duplicate of Is this a cashier check scam?
– Pete B.
yesterday
10
How exactly did you get hired for this? Were you contacted out of the blue, or did you find a job ad that you applied to?
– Tas
yesterday
9
What is your employment contract? Who have signed it, where have your signed it? Did you met the person that have signed it in the person?
– 9ilsdx 9rvj 0lo
17 hours ago
2
If you gave them any personal, sensitive information then Identity Fraud is next (SSN, DL number, address, etc, etc.)
– JPhi1618
5 hours ago
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I have been 'hired" by Nissan Motor as a key account specialist.
My first assignment is to cash two checks that I have received, which were written by a customer, who has already received the engines. The two checks total $2500. I am to cash the checks, get the money, take out my bonus and any other related expenses and deposit into a Bitcoin ATM. Then make copy of receipt and electronically send to my "manager".
I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, they said they will not get involved, that this is between my and my employer. Advise?
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I have been 'hired" by Nissan Motor as a key account specialist.
My first assignment is to cash two checks that I have received, which were written by a customer, who has already received the engines. The two checks total $2500. I am to cash the checks, get the money, take out my bonus and any other related expenses and deposit into a Bitcoin ATM. Then make copy of receipt and electronically send to my "manager".
I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, they said they will not get involved, that this is between my and my employer. Advise?
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86
Yes that's a fraud. Go to the police. The checks are fake.
– Ben Voigt
yesterday
3
Possible duplicate of Is this a cashier check scam?
– Pete B.
yesterday
10
How exactly did you get hired for this? Were you contacted out of the blue, or did you find a job ad that you applied to?
– Tas
yesterday
9
What is your employment contract? Who have signed it, where have your signed it? Did you met the person that have signed it in the person?
– 9ilsdx 9rvj 0lo
17 hours ago
2
If you gave them any personal, sensitive information then Identity Fraud is next (SSN, DL number, address, etc, etc.)
– JPhi1618
5 hours ago
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86
Yes that's a fraud. Go to the police. The checks are fake.
– Ben Voigt
yesterday
3
Possible duplicate of Is this a cashier check scam?
– Pete B.
yesterday
10
How exactly did you get hired for this? Were you contacted out of the blue, or did you find a job ad that you applied to?
– Tas
yesterday
9
What is your employment contract? Who have signed it, where have your signed it? Did you met the person that have signed it in the person?
– 9ilsdx 9rvj 0lo
17 hours ago
2
If you gave them any personal, sensitive information then Identity Fraud is next (SSN, DL number, address, etc, etc.)
– JPhi1618
5 hours ago
86
86
Yes that's a fraud. Go to the police. The checks are fake.
– Ben Voigt
yesterday
Yes that's a fraud. Go to the police. The checks are fake.
– Ben Voigt
yesterday
3
3
Possible duplicate of Is this a cashier check scam?
– Pete B.
yesterday
Possible duplicate of Is this a cashier check scam?
– Pete B.
yesterday
10
10
How exactly did you get hired for this? Were you contacted out of the blue, or did you find a job ad that you applied to?
– Tas
yesterday
How exactly did you get hired for this? Were you contacted out of the blue, or did you find a job ad that you applied to?
– Tas
yesterday
9
9
What is your employment contract? Who have signed it, where have your signed it? Did you met the person that have signed it in the person?
– 9ilsdx 9rvj 0lo
17 hours ago
What is your employment contract? Who have signed it, where have your signed it? Did you met the person that have signed it in the person?
– 9ilsdx 9rvj 0lo
17 hours ago
2
2
If you gave them any personal, sensitive information then Identity Fraud is next (SSN, DL number, address, etc, etc.)
– JPhi1618
5 hours ago
If you gave them any personal, sensitive information then Identity Fraud is next (SSN, DL number, address, etc, etc.)
– JPhi1618
5 hours ago
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Absolutely a scam 100% chance. This is one of the most common scams out there.
Here's how you will get ripped off.
- They send you a check which will deposit in your account
- Seeing the deposit went through everything looks peachy, you buy and transmit bitcoins.
- The check bounces in a few weeks and you are out the money or owe the bank if that gives you a negative balance.
- The person you sent the bitcoin to is long gone and you have no way to reverse or dispute the transfer.
- If by some miracle they actually let you keep some of the money (the check is real), congrats you just committed a felony and have set yourself as the only accomplice the FBI is likely to be able to track down and arrest.
To avoid scams in the future always ask yourself one question. Why would a company pay someone, a complete stranger, to do virtually no work? If you can't understand their angle then there is no way it is legit. Don't let greed cloud your vision.
The added fact that they want you to send the money via an anonymous and irrevocable mechanism SCREAMS scam. No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money for any number of reasons.
Fake Check Scam
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"No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.
– Andrew Savinykh
yesterday
28
@AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.
– quid
yesterday
8
Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.
– jpaugh
yesterday
20
@johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?
– Harper
23 hours ago
5
@JohnDoe: OscarBravo is spreading misinformation. Today physical checks are definitely not mailed between banks. Images are exchanged digitally. The delay in the funds being secure does not come from processing delays, but from the consumer protection laws that give the holder of the account the check draws from time to receive their statement, notice unauthorized (forged) checks have been deducted, and tell their bank.
– Ben Voigt
10 hours ago
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Yes, it’s a scam. There are red flags all over it. Ask yourself whether you really think a huge multinational like Nissan would work in this way.
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I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, DOL said they will not get involved that this is between my and my employer. Advise?
What employer? You are 100% not employed by Nissan Motors....
answered yesterday
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'filthy rotten scammers co' is the employer.
– Dan Neely
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DOL should have directed them to the police. I'm surprised they didn't.
– Glen Pierce
9 hours ago
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What bank account are you supposed to cash the check into?
My guess is "yours", and that's a complete and utter proof of scam. There is absolutely and categorically no way that a reputable company like Nissan would have checks cashed into anything except a business account of Nissan's.
It would be illegal and stupid to do so, and no legitimate company would ask a person to bank money into anything except an account of that business.
answered 17 hours ago
StilezStilez
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Also, unless the OP was a registered financial institution, such things would be illegal even if the checks were legitimate.
– vsz
15 hours ago
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Already said that :)
– Stilez
11 hours ago
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I know, my point was that it's illegal even if it wasn't a scam (which it is) and even if the check was legit (which it isn't), because for such transactions a juridical entity is required, you are not allowed to provide such services with your personal bank account.
– vsz
10 hours ago
Ah, illegal for the OP, as opposed to just illegal for the company. Fair point. Not sure how universal that is in different countries.
– Stilez
7 hours ago
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It's not really Nissan.
- The bank will put a hold on all but $100 of the check amount.
- After a few days, they will release the money, conditional on you making the money good if the check later bounces (read your bank agreement).
- You will go "haha, check cleared, money in the bank!"
- You will send the money onward via Bitcoin, which is irreversible.
- The check will later bounce.
- The bank will require you to make the money good Right Now, as agreed.
- Optional: You are unable. ChexSystems blacklist. No banking for you for 7 years.
Scammer has your money, you are left holding the bag.
Money gets used for terror, human trafficking and other crime.
This works because scammers are really good at creating checks with routing information designed to make the check bounce around the international banking system for many weeks before being definitively declared a fake. Normal checks bounce or clear in just a few days, which is why the bank sets such a short time to releasing the money.
answered 23 hours ago
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100% Scam
They want you to cash a check, which is a transaction that can be reversed such as if the check bounces.
Then give them money in bitcoin, which cant be reversed.
Most likely the check will bounce but you will already have given them the bitcoins and the bank will expect you to pay back that money you gave them while you will have no way of getting your money back.
answered 10 hours ago
ChrisChris
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If you want to read more about this, it is a minor twist on a standard "advance fee" or "Nigerian 419" scam, and is, unfortunately, not uncommon.
The scammers must be getting people to fall for it, or they wouldn't continue trying. Good on you for at least catching it before it cost you money.
answered 4 hours ago
Spehro PefhanySpehro Pefhany
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It's a scam all right, but an "advance fee scam" is something different from this.
– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
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Absolutely a scam 100% chance. This is one of the most common scams out there.
Here's how you will get ripped off.
- They send you a check which will deposit in your account
- Seeing the deposit went through everything looks peachy, you buy and transmit bitcoins.
- The check bounces in a few weeks and you are out the money or owe the bank if that gives you a negative balance.
- The person you sent the bitcoin to is long gone and you have no way to reverse or dispute the transfer.
- If by some miracle they actually let you keep some of the money (the check is real), congrats you just committed a felony and have set yourself as the only accomplice the FBI is likely to be able to track down and arrest.
To avoid scams in the future always ask yourself one question. Why would a company pay someone, a complete stranger, to do virtually no work? If you can't understand their angle then there is no way it is legit. Don't let greed cloud your vision.
The added fact that they want you to send the money via an anonymous and irrevocable mechanism SCREAMS scam. No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money for any number of reasons.
Fake Check Scam
answered yesterday
JohnFx♦JohnFx
35.4k984187
8
"No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.
– Andrew Savinykh
yesterday
28
@AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.
– quid
yesterday
8
Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.
– jpaugh
yesterday
20
@johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?
– Harper
23 hours ago
5
@JohnDoe: OscarBravo is spreading misinformation. Today physical checks are definitely not mailed between banks. Images are exchanged digitally. The delay in the funds being secure does not come from processing delays, but from the consumer protection laws that give the holder of the account the check draws from time to receive their statement, notice unauthorized (forged) checks have been deducted, and tell their bank.
– Ben Voigt
10 hours ago
|
show 16 more comments
Absolutely a scam 100% chance. This is one of the most common scams out there.
Here's how you will get ripped off.
- They send you a check which will deposit in your account
- Seeing the deposit went through everything looks peachy, you buy and transmit bitcoins.
- The check bounces in a few weeks and you are out the money or owe the bank if that gives you a negative balance.
- The person you sent the bitcoin to is long gone and you have no way to reverse or dispute the transfer.
- If by some miracle they actually let you keep some of the money (the check is real), congrats you just committed a felony and have set yourself as the only accomplice the FBI is likely to be able to track down and arrest.
To avoid scams in the future always ask yourself one question. Why would a company pay someone, a complete stranger, to do virtually no work? If you can't understand their angle then there is no way it is legit. Don't let greed cloud your vision.
The added fact that they want you to send the money via an anonymous and irrevocable mechanism SCREAMS scam. No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money for any number of reasons.
Fake Check Scam
answered yesterday
JohnFx♦JohnFx
35.4k984187
8
"No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.
– Andrew Savinykh
yesterday
28
@AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.
– quid
yesterday
8
Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.
– jpaugh
yesterday
20
@johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?
– Harper
23 hours ago
5
@JohnDoe: OscarBravo is spreading misinformation. Today physical checks are definitely not mailed between banks. Images are exchanged digitally. The delay in the funds being secure does not come from processing delays, but from the consumer protection laws that give the holder of the account the check draws from time to receive their statement, notice unauthorized (forged) checks have been deducted, and tell their bank.
– Ben Voigt
10 hours ago
|
show 16 more comments
Absolutely a scam 100% chance. This is one of the most common scams out there.
Here's how you will get ripped off.
- They send you a check which will deposit in your account
- Seeing the deposit went through everything looks peachy, you buy and transmit bitcoins.
- The check bounces in a few weeks and you are out the money or owe the bank if that gives you a negative balance.
- The person you sent the bitcoin to is long gone and you have no way to reverse or dispute the transfer.
- If by some miracle they actually let you keep some of the money (the check is real), congrats you just committed a felony and have set yourself as the only accomplice the FBI is likely to be able to track down and arrest.
To avoid scams in the future always ask yourself one question. Why would a company pay someone, a complete stranger, to do virtually no work? If you can't understand their angle then there is no way it is legit. Don't let greed cloud your vision.
The added fact that they want you to send the money via an anonymous and irrevocable mechanism SCREAMS scam. No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money for any number of reasons.
Fake Check Scam
answered yesterday
JohnFx♦JohnFx
35.4k984187
Absolutely a scam 100% chance. This is one of the most common scams out there.
Here's how you will get ripped off.
- They send you a check which will deposit in your account
- Seeing the deposit went through everything looks peachy, you buy and transmit bitcoins.
- The check bounces in a few weeks and you are out the money or owe the bank if that gives you a negative balance.
- The person you sent the bitcoin to is long gone and you have no way to reverse or dispute the transfer.
- If by some miracle they actually let you keep some of the money (the check is real), congrats you just committed a felony and have set yourself as the only accomplice the FBI is likely to be able to track down and arrest.
To avoid scams in the future always ask yourself one question. Why would a company pay someone, a complete stranger, to do virtually no work? If you can't understand their angle then there is no way it is legit. Don't let greed cloud your vision.
The added fact that they want you to send the money via an anonymous and irrevocable mechanism SCREAMS scam. No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money for any number of reasons.
Fake Check Scam
answered yesterday
JohnFx♦JohnFx
35.4k984187
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JohnFx♦JohnFx
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answered yesterday
JohnFx♦JohnFx
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"No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.
– Andrew Savinykh
yesterday
28
@AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.
– quid
yesterday
8
Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.
– jpaugh
yesterday
20
@johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?
– Harper
23 hours ago
5
@JohnDoe: OscarBravo is spreading misinformation. Today physical checks are definitely not mailed between banks. Images are exchanged digitally. The delay in the funds being secure does not come from processing delays, but from the consumer protection laws that give the holder of the account the check draws from time to receive their statement, notice unauthorized (forged) checks have been deducted, and tell their bank.
– Ben Voigt
10 hours ago
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"No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.
– Andrew Savinykh
yesterday
28
@AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.
– quid
yesterday
8
Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.
– jpaugh
yesterday
20
@johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?
– Harper
23 hours ago
5
@JohnDoe: OscarBravo is spreading misinformation. Today physical checks are definitely not mailed between banks. Images are exchanged digitally. The delay in the funds being secure does not come from processing delays, but from the consumer protection laws that give the holder of the account the check draws from time to receive their statement, notice unauthorized (forged) checks have been deducted, and tell their bank.
– Ben Voigt
10 hours ago
8
8
"No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.
– Andrew Savinykh
yesterday
"No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.
– Andrew Savinykh
yesterday
28
28
@AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.
– quid
yesterday
@AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.
– quid
yesterday
8
8
Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.
– jpaugh
yesterday
Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.
– jpaugh
yesterday
20
20
@johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?
– Harper
23 hours ago
@johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?
– Harper
23 hours ago
5
5
@JohnDoe: OscarBravo is spreading misinformation. Today physical checks are definitely not mailed between banks. Images are exchanged digitally. The delay in the funds being secure does not come from processing delays, but from the consumer protection laws that give the holder of the account the check draws from time to receive their statement, notice unauthorized (forged) checks have been deducted, and tell their bank.
– Ben Voigt
10 hours ago
@JohnDoe: OscarBravo is spreading misinformation. Today physical checks are definitely not mailed between banks. Images are exchanged digitally. The delay in the funds being secure does not come from processing delays, but from the consumer protection laws that give the holder of the account the check draws from time to receive their statement, notice unauthorized (forged) checks have been deducted, and tell their bank.
– Ben Voigt
10 hours ago
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Yes, it’s a scam. There are red flags all over it. Ask yourself whether you really think a huge multinational like Nissan would work in this way.
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Yes, it’s a scam. There are red flags all over it. Ask yourself whether you really think a huge multinational like Nissan would work in this way.
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VickyVicky
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Yes, it’s a scam. There are red flags all over it. Ask yourself whether you really think a huge multinational like Nissan would work in this way.
answered yesterday
VickyVicky
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Yes, it’s a scam. There are red flags all over it. Ask yourself whether you really think a huge multinational like Nissan would work in this way.
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VickyVicky
10.7k22443
answered yesterday
VickyVicky
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I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, DOL said they will not get involved that this is between my and my employer. Advise?
What employer? You are 100% not employed by Nissan Motors....
answered yesterday
quidquid
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'filthy rotten scammers co' is the employer.
– Dan Neely
yesterday
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DOL should have directed them to the police. I'm surprised they didn't.
– Glen Pierce
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I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, DOL said they will not get involved that this is between my and my employer. Advise?
What employer? You are 100% not employed by Nissan Motors....
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quidquid
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'filthy rotten scammers co' is the employer.
– Dan Neely
yesterday
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DOL should have directed them to the police. I'm surprised they didn't.
– Glen Pierce
9 hours ago
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I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, DOL said they will not get involved that this is between my and my employer. Advise?
What employer? You are 100% not employed by Nissan Motors....
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quidquid
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I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, DOL said they will not get involved that this is between my and my employer. Advise?
What employer? You are 100% not employed by Nissan Motors....
answered yesterday
quidquid
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answered yesterday
quidquid
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answered yesterday
quidquid
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answered yesterday
quidquid
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38.6k875125
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'filthy rotten scammers co' is the employer.
– Dan Neely
yesterday
3
DOL should have directed them to the police. I'm surprised they didn't.
– Glen Pierce
9 hours ago
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8
'filthy rotten scammers co' is the employer.
– Dan Neely
yesterday
3
DOL should have directed them to the police. I'm surprised they didn't.
– Glen Pierce
9 hours ago
8
8
'filthy rotten scammers co' is the employer.
– Dan Neely
yesterday
'filthy rotten scammers co' is the employer.
– Dan Neely
yesterday
3
3
DOL should have directed them to the police. I'm surprised they didn't.
– Glen Pierce
9 hours ago
DOL should have directed them to the police. I'm surprised they didn't.
– Glen Pierce
9 hours ago
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What bank account are you supposed to cash the check into?
My guess is "yours", and that's a complete and utter proof of scam. There is absolutely and categorically no way that a reputable company like Nissan would have checks cashed into anything except a business account of Nissan's.
It would be illegal and stupid to do so, and no legitimate company would ask a person to bank money into anything except an account of that business.
answered 17 hours ago
StilezStilez
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Also, unless the OP was a registered financial institution, such things would be illegal even if the checks were legitimate.
– vsz
15 hours ago
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Already said that :)
– Stilez
11 hours ago
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I know, my point was that it's illegal even if it wasn't a scam (which it is) and even if the check was legit (which it isn't), because for such transactions a juridical entity is required, you are not allowed to provide such services with your personal bank account.
– vsz
10 hours ago
Ah, illegal for the OP, as opposed to just illegal for the company. Fair point. Not sure how universal that is in different countries.
– Stilez
7 hours ago
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What bank account are you supposed to cash the check into?
My guess is "yours", and that's a complete and utter proof of scam. There is absolutely and categorically no way that a reputable company like Nissan would have checks cashed into anything except a business account of Nissan's.
It would be illegal and stupid to do so, and no legitimate company would ask a person to bank money into anything except an account of that business.
answered 17 hours ago
StilezStilez
1,351128
4
Also, unless the OP was a registered financial institution, such things would be illegal even if the checks were legitimate.
– vsz
15 hours ago
1
Already said that :)
– Stilez
11 hours ago
1
I know, my point was that it's illegal even if it wasn't a scam (which it is) and even if the check was legit (which it isn't), because for such transactions a juridical entity is required, you are not allowed to provide such services with your personal bank account.
– vsz
10 hours ago
Ah, illegal for the OP, as opposed to just illegal for the company. Fair point. Not sure how universal that is in different countries.
– Stilez
7 hours ago
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What bank account are you supposed to cash the check into?
My guess is "yours", and that's a complete and utter proof of scam. There is absolutely and categorically no way that a reputable company like Nissan would have checks cashed into anything except a business account of Nissan's.
It would be illegal and stupid to do so, and no legitimate company would ask a person to bank money into anything except an account of that business.
answered 17 hours ago
StilezStilez
1,351128
What bank account are you supposed to cash the check into?
My guess is "yours", and that's a complete and utter proof of scam. There is absolutely and categorically no way that a reputable company like Nissan would have checks cashed into anything except a business account of Nissan's.
It would be illegal and stupid to do so, and no legitimate company would ask a person to bank money into anything except an account of that business.
answered 17 hours ago
StilezStilez
1,351128
answered 17 hours ago
StilezStilez
1,351128
answered 17 hours ago
StilezStilez
1,351128
answered 17 hours ago
StilezStilez
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Also, unless the OP was a registered financial institution, such things would be illegal even if the checks were legitimate.
– vsz
15 hours ago
1
Already said that :)
– Stilez
11 hours ago
1
I know, my point was that it's illegal even if it wasn't a scam (which it is) and even if the check was legit (which it isn't), because for such transactions a juridical entity is required, you are not allowed to provide such services with your personal bank account.
– vsz
10 hours ago
Ah, illegal for the OP, as opposed to just illegal for the company. Fair point. Not sure how universal that is in different countries.
– Stilez
7 hours ago
add a comment |
4
Also, unless the OP was a registered financial institution, such things would be illegal even if the checks were legitimate.
– vsz
15 hours ago
1
Already said that :)
– Stilez
11 hours ago
1
I know, my point was that it's illegal even if it wasn't a scam (which it is) and even if the check was legit (which it isn't), because for such transactions a juridical entity is required, you are not allowed to provide such services with your personal bank account.
– vsz
10 hours ago
Ah, illegal for the OP, as opposed to just illegal for the company. Fair point. Not sure how universal that is in different countries.
– Stilez
7 hours ago
4
4
Also, unless the OP was a registered financial institution, such things would be illegal even if the checks were legitimate.
– vsz
15 hours ago
Also, unless the OP was a registered financial institution, such things would be illegal even if the checks were legitimate.
– vsz
15 hours ago
1
1
Already said that :)
– Stilez
11 hours ago
Already said that :)
– Stilez
11 hours ago
1
1
I know, my point was that it's illegal even if it wasn't a scam (which it is) and even if the check was legit (which it isn't), because for such transactions a juridical entity is required, you are not allowed to provide such services with your personal bank account.
– vsz
10 hours ago
I know, my point was that it's illegal even if it wasn't a scam (which it is) and even if the check was legit (which it isn't), because for such transactions a juridical entity is required, you are not allowed to provide such services with your personal bank account.
– vsz
10 hours ago
Ah, illegal for the OP, as opposed to just illegal for the company. Fair point. Not sure how universal that is in different countries.
– Stilez
7 hours ago
Ah, illegal for the OP, as opposed to just illegal for the company. Fair point. Not sure how universal that is in different countries.
– Stilez
7 hours ago
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It's not really Nissan.
- The bank will put a hold on all but $100 of the check amount.
- After a few days, they will release the money, conditional on you making the money good if the check later bounces (read your bank agreement).
- You will go "haha, check cleared, money in the bank!"
- You will send the money onward via Bitcoin, which is irreversible.
- The check will later bounce.
- The bank will require you to make the money good Right Now, as agreed.
- Optional: You are unable. ChexSystems blacklist. No banking for you for 7 years.
Scammer has your money, you are left holding the bag.
Money gets used for terror, human trafficking and other crime.
This works because scammers are really good at creating checks with routing information designed to make the check bounce around the international banking system for many weeks before being definitively declared a fake. Normal checks bounce or clear in just a few days, which is why the bank sets such a short time to releasing the money.
answered 23 hours ago
HarperHarper
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It's not really Nissan.
- The bank will put a hold on all but $100 of the check amount.
- After a few days, they will release the money, conditional on you making the money good if the check later bounces (read your bank agreement).
- You will go "haha, check cleared, money in the bank!"
- You will send the money onward via Bitcoin, which is irreversible.
- The check will later bounce.
- The bank will require you to make the money good Right Now, as agreed.
- Optional: You are unable. ChexSystems blacklist. No banking for you for 7 years.
Scammer has your money, you are left holding the bag.
Money gets used for terror, human trafficking and other crime.
This works because scammers are really good at creating checks with routing information designed to make the check bounce around the international banking system for many weeks before being definitively declared a fake. Normal checks bounce or clear in just a few days, which is why the bank sets such a short time to releasing the money.
answered 23 hours ago
HarperHarper
24.4k63786
add a comment |
It's not really Nissan.
- The bank will put a hold on all but $100 of the check amount.
- After a few days, they will release the money, conditional on you making the money good if the check later bounces (read your bank agreement).
- You will go "haha, check cleared, money in the bank!"
- You will send the money onward via Bitcoin, which is irreversible.
- The check will later bounce.
- The bank will require you to make the money good Right Now, as agreed.
- Optional: You are unable. ChexSystems blacklist. No banking for you for 7 years.
Scammer has your money, you are left holding the bag.
Money gets used for terror, human trafficking and other crime.
This works because scammers are really good at creating checks with routing information designed to make the check bounce around the international banking system for many weeks before being definitively declared a fake. Normal checks bounce or clear in just a few days, which is why the bank sets such a short time to releasing the money.
answered 23 hours ago
HarperHarper
24.4k63786
It's not really Nissan.
- The bank will put a hold on all but $100 of the check amount.
- After a few days, they will release the money, conditional on you making the money good if the check later bounces (read your bank agreement).
- You will go "haha, check cleared, money in the bank!"
- You will send the money onward via Bitcoin, which is irreversible.
- The check will later bounce.
- The bank will require you to make the money good Right Now, as agreed.
- Optional: You are unable. ChexSystems blacklist. No banking for you for 7 years.
Scammer has your money, you are left holding the bag.
Money gets used for terror, human trafficking and other crime.
This works because scammers are really good at creating checks with routing information designed to make the check bounce around the international banking system for many weeks before being definitively declared a fake. Normal checks bounce or clear in just a few days, which is why the bank sets such a short time to releasing the money.
answered 23 hours ago
HarperHarper
24.4k63786
edited 23 hours ago
answered 23 hours ago
HarperHarper
24.4k63786
answered 23 hours ago
HarperHarper
24.4k63786
answered 23 hours ago
HarperHarper
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100% Scam
They want you to cash a check, which is a transaction that can be reversed such as if the check bounces.
Then give them money in bitcoin, which cant be reversed.
Most likely the check will bounce but you will already have given them the bitcoins and the bank will expect you to pay back that money you gave them while you will have no way of getting your money back.
answered 10 hours ago
ChrisChris
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100% Scam
They want you to cash a check, which is a transaction that can be reversed such as if the check bounces.
Then give them money in bitcoin, which cant be reversed.
Most likely the check will bounce but you will already have given them the bitcoins and the bank will expect you to pay back that money you gave them while you will have no way of getting your money back.
answered 10 hours ago
ChrisChris
35716
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100% Scam
They want you to cash a check, which is a transaction that can be reversed such as if the check bounces.
Then give them money in bitcoin, which cant be reversed.
Most likely the check will bounce but you will already have given them the bitcoins and the bank will expect you to pay back that money you gave them while you will have no way of getting your money back.
answered 10 hours ago
ChrisChris
35716
100% Scam
They want you to cash a check, which is a transaction that can be reversed such as if the check bounces.
Then give them money in bitcoin, which cant be reversed.
Most likely the check will bounce but you will already have given them the bitcoins and the bank will expect you to pay back that money you gave them while you will have no way of getting your money back.
answered 10 hours ago
ChrisChris
35716
answered 10 hours ago
ChrisChris
35716
answered 10 hours ago
ChrisChris
35716
answered 10 hours ago
ChrisChris
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35716
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If you want to read more about this, it is a minor twist on a standard "advance fee" or "Nigerian 419" scam, and is, unfortunately, not uncommon.
The scammers must be getting people to fall for it, or they wouldn't continue trying. Good on you for at least catching it before it cost you money.
answered 4 hours ago
Spehro PefhanySpehro Pefhany
533211
It's a scam all right, but an "advance fee scam" is something different from this.
– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
add a comment |
If you want to read more about this, it is a minor twist on a standard "advance fee" or "Nigerian 419" scam, and is, unfortunately, not uncommon.
The scammers must be getting people to fall for it, or they wouldn't continue trying. Good on you for at least catching it before it cost you money.
answered 4 hours ago
Spehro PefhanySpehro Pefhany
533211
It's a scam all right, but an "advance fee scam" is something different from this.
– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
add a comment |
If you want to read more about this, it is a minor twist on a standard "advance fee" or "Nigerian 419" scam, and is, unfortunately, not uncommon.
The scammers must be getting people to fall for it, or they wouldn't continue trying. Good on you for at least catching it before it cost you money.
answered 4 hours ago
Spehro PefhanySpehro Pefhany
533211
If you want to read more about this, it is a minor twist on a standard "advance fee" or "Nigerian 419" scam, and is, unfortunately, not uncommon.
The scammers must be getting people to fall for it, or they wouldn't continue trying. Good on you for at least catching it before it cost you money.
answered 4 hours ago
Spehro PefhanySpehro Pefhany
533211
answered 4 hours ago
Spehro PefhanySpehro Pefhany
533211
answered 4 hours ago
Spehro PefhanySpehro Pefhany
533211
answered 4 hours ago
Spehro PefhanySpehro Pefhany
533211
533211
It's a scam all right, but an "advance fee scam" is something different from this.
– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
add a comment |
It's a scam all right, but an "advance fee scam" is something different from this.
– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
It's a scam all right, but an "advance fee scam" is something different from this.
– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
It's a scam all right, but an "advance fee scam" is something different from this.
– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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Yes that's a fraud. Go to the police. The checks are fake.
– Ben Voigt
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Possible duplicate of Is this a cashier check scam?
– Pete B.
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How exactly did you get hired for this? Were you contacted out of the blue, or did you find a job ad that you applied to?
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What is your employment contract? Who have signed it, where have your signed it? Did you met the person that have signed it in the person?
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If you gave them any personal, sensitive information then Identity Fraud is next (SSN, DL number, address, etc, etc.)
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