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DDNS, BIND and leftover .jnl files


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I have configured BIND and ISC DHCPD to work together (using keys for updates). Now it's not that it does not work at all: forward maps etc are most often added.



However, very often, for no apparent reason the .jnl file (journal) for the zone is left there and the main zone file is not updated. This results in infuriating lack of resolution of some hosts after DHCP lease acquire (if the hosts was not there in the zone file in the first place, or it leads to the old address).



Permissions look like this:



-rw-r--r-- 1 bind bind 691 Dec 10 11:06 myzone.zone
-rw-r--r-- 1 bind bind 765 Dec 10 12:17 myzone.zone.jnl


It should not be permissions problem though since the zone does (often) get updated via DHCP/DDNS?



What is the source of this problem and a fix for it?



OS: debian 7.2 x64, stable release bind and isc-dhcp server.










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    I don't understand, even if the change is only in the jnl file, it should always resolve correctly. Maybe your problem is somewhere else.

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I have configured BIND and ISC DHCPD to work together (using keys for updates). Now it's not that it does not work at all: forward maps etc are most often added.



However, very often, for no apparent reason the .jnl file (journal) for the zone is left there and the main zone file is not updated. This results in infuriating lack of resolution of some hosts after DHCP lease acquire (if the hosts was not there in the zone file in the first place, or it leads to the old address).



Permissions look like this:



-rw-r--r-- 1 bind bind 691 Dec 10 11:06 myzone.zone
-rw-r--r-- 1 bind bind 765 Dec 10 12:17 myzone.zone.jnl


It should not be permissions problem though since the zone does (often) get updated via DHCP/DDNS?



What is the source of this problem and a fix for it?



OS: debian 7.2 x64, stable release bind and isc-dhcp server.










share|improve this question

















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    I don't understand, even if the change is only in the jnl file, it should always resolve correctly. Maybe your problem is somewhere else.

    – faker
    Dec 10 '13 at 13:16













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I have configured BIND and ISC DHCPD to work together (using keys for updates). Now it's not that it does not work at all: forward maps etc are most often added.



However, very often, for no apparent reason the .jnl file (journal) for the zone is left there and the main zone file is not updated. This results in infuriating lack of resolution of some hosts after DHCP lease acquire (if the hosts was not there in the zone file in the first place, or it leads to the old address).



Permissions look like this:



-rw-r--r-- 1 bind bind 691 Dec 10 11:06 myzone.zone
-rw-r--r-- 1 bind bind 765 Dec 10 12:17 myzone.zone.jnl


It should not be permissions problem though since the zone does (often) get updated via DHCP/DDNS?



What is the source of this problem and a fix for it?



OS: debian 7.2 x64, stable release bind and isc-dhcp server.










share|improve this question














I have configured BIND and ISC DHCPD to work together (using keys for updates). Now it's not that it does not work at all: forward maps etc are most often added.



However, very often, for no apparent reason the .jnl file (journal) for the zone is left there and the main zone file is not updated. This results in infuriating lack of resolution of some hosts after DHCP lease acquire (if the hosts was not there in the zone file in the first place, or it leads to the old address).



Permissions look like this:



-rw-r--r-- 1 bind bind 691 Dec 10 11:06 myzone.zone
-rw-r--r-- 1 bind bind 765 Dec 10 12:17 myzone.zone.jnl


It should not be permissions problem though since the zone does (often) get updated via DHCP/DDNS?



What is the source of this problem and a fix for it?



OS: debian 7.2 x64, stable release bind and isc-dhcp server.







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    I don't understand, even if the change is only in the jnl file, it should always resolve correctly. Maybe your problem is somewhere else.

    – faker
    Dec 10 '13 at 13:16












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    I don't understand, even if the change is only in the jnl file, it should always resolve correctly. Maybe your problem is somewhere else.

    – faker
    Dec 10 '13 at 13:16







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I don't understand, even if the change is only in the jnl file, it should always resolve correctly. Maybe your problem is somewhere else.

– faker
Dec 10 '13 at 13:16





I don't understand, even if the change is only in the jnl file, it should always resolve correctly. Maybe your problem is somewhere else.

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I've looked at this before.

Restarting named will flush updated data from .jnl files back to the zone file, but there's also another way..



rndc freeze <zone> but this will disable DDNS, so it should be followed with a
rndc thaw <zone> to re-enable it, and should clear up the .jnl files.



There's apparently a rndc sync in Bind 9.9.






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  • Thanks! it works, but am I limited to running rndc freeze/from cron? Although not very probable, at some point DDNS will hit a split second when update is not available bc of this. What then? I could stop DHCPD, do rndc freeze, rndc thatw and then start DHCPD but...

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  • Why not run freeze/thaw at a time when it's improbable that DHCPd will be handing out addresses? If they're for clients, then perhaps a time when everyone's asleep?.. OR.. tail the dhcp output log file, and don't freeze it if it's just received a DHCPREQUEST packet?

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With bind 9.9, "rndc sync" is not enough; you also need the "-clean" flag:




sync [-clean] [zone [class [view]]]

Sync changes in the journal file for a dynamic zone to the master file. If the "-clean" option is specified, the journal file is also removed. If no zone is specified, then all zones are synced.






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    I've looked at this before.

    Restarting named will flush updated data from .jnl files back to the zone file, but there's also another way..



    rndc freeze <zone> but this will disable DDNS, so it should be followed with a
    rndc thaw <zone> to re-enable it, and should clear up the .jnl files.



    There's apparently a rndc sync in Bind 9.9.






    share|improve this answer























    • Thanks! it works, but am I limited to running rndc freeze/from cron? Although not very probable, at some point DDNS will hit a split second when update is not available bc of this. What then? I could stop DHCPD, do rndc freeze, rndc thatw and then start DHCPD but...

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      Dec 10 '13 at 13:00











    • Why not run freeze/thaw at a time when it's improbable that DHCPd will be handing out addresses? If they're for clients, then perhaps a time when everyone's asleep?.. OR.. tail the dhcp output log file, and don't freeze it if it's just received a DHCPREQUEST packet?

      – Tom O'Connor
      Dec 10 '13 at 13:50















    6














    I've looked at this before.

    Restarting named will flush updated data from .jnl files back to the zone file, but there's also another way..



    rndc freeze <zone> but this will disable DDNS, so it should be followed with a
    rndc thaw <zone> to re-enable it, and should clear up the .jnl files.



    There's apparently a rndc sync in Bind 9.9.






    share|improve this answer























    • Thanks! it works, but am I limited to running rndc freeze/from cron? Although not very probable, at some point DDNS will hit a split second when update is not available bc of this. What then? I could stop DHCPD, do rndc freeze, rndc thatw and then start DHCPD but...

      – LetMeSOThat4U
      Dec 10 '13 at 13:00











    • Why not run freeze/thaw at a time when it's improbable that DHCPd will be handing out addresses? If they're for clients, then perhaps a time when everyone's asleep?.. OR.. tail the dhcp output log file, and don't freeze it if it's just received a DHCPREQUEST packet?

      – Tom O'Connor
      Dec 10 '13 at 13:50













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    I've looked at this before.

    Restarting named will flush updated data from .jnl files back to the zone file, but there's also another way..



    rndc freeze <zone> but this will disable DDNS, so it should be followed with a
    rndc thaw <zone> to re-enable it, and should clear up the .jnl files.



    There's apparently a rndc sync in Bind 9.9.






    share|improve this answer













    I've looked at this before.

    Restarting named will flush updated data from .jnl files back to the zone file, but there's also another way..



    rndc freeze <zone> but this will disable DDNS, so it should be followed with a
    rndc thaw <zone> to re-enable it, and should clear up the .jnl files.



    There's apparently a rndc sync in Bind 9.9.







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    • Thanks! it works, but am I limited to running rndc freeze/from cron? Although not very probable, at some point DDNS will hit a split second when update is not available bc of this. What then? I could stop DHCPD, do rndc freeze, rndc thatw and then start DHCPD but...

      – LetMeSOThat4U
      Dec 10 '13 at 13:00











    • Why not run freeze/thaw at a time when it's improbable that DHCPd will be handing out addresses? If they're for clients, then perhaps a time when everyone's asleep?.. OR.. tail the dhcp output log file, and don't freeze it if it's just received a DHCPREQUEST packet?

      – Tom O'Connor
      Dec 10 '13 at 13:50

















    • Thanks! it works, but am I limited to running rndc freeze/from cron? Although not very probable, at some point DDNS will hit a split second when update is not available bc of this. What then? I could stop DHCPD, do rndc freeze, rndc thatw and then start DHCPD but...

      – LetMeSOThat4U
      Dec 10 '13 at 13:00











    • Why not run freeze/thaw at a time when it's improbable that DHCPd will be handing out addresses? If they're for clients, then perhaps a time when everyone's asleep?.. OR.. tail the dhcp output log file, and don't freeze it if it's just received a DHCPREQUEST packet?

      – Tom O'Connor
      Dec 10 '13 at 13:50
















    Thanks! it works, but am I limited to running rndc freeze/from cron? Although not very probable, at some point DDNS will hit a split second when update is not available bc of this. What then? I could stop DHCPD, do rndc freeze, rndc thatw and then start DHCPD but...

    – LetMeSOThat4U
    Dec 10 '13 at 13:00





    Thanks! it works, but am I limited to running rndc freeze/from cron? Although not very probable, at some point DDNS will hit a split second when update is not available bc of this. What then? I could stop DHCPD, do rndc freeze, rndc thatw and then start DHCPD but...

    – LetMeSOThat4U
    Dec 10 '13 at 13:00













    Why not run freeze/thaw at a time when it's improbable that DHCPd will be handing out addresses? If they're for clients, then perhaps a time when everyone's asleep?.. OR.. tail the dhcp output log file, and don't freeze it if it's just received a DHCPREQUEST packet?

    – Tom O'Connor
    Dec 10 '13 at 13:50





    Why not run freeze/thaw at a time when it's improbable that DHCPd will be handing out addresses? If they're for clients, then perhaps a time when everyone's asleep?.. OR.. tail the dhcp output log file, and don't freeze it if it's just received a DHCPREQUEST packet?

    – Tom O'Connor
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    With bind 9.9, "rndc sync" is not enough; you also need the "-clean" flag:




    sync [-clean] [zone [class [view]]]

    Sync changes in the journal file for a dynamic zone to the master file. If the "-clean" option is specified, the journal file is also removed. If no zone is specified, then all zones are synced.






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      sync [-clean] [zone [class [view]]]

      Sync changes in the journal file for a dynamic zone to the master file. If the "-clean" option is specified, the journal file is also removed. If no zone is specified, then all zones are synced.






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        Sync changes in the journal file for a dynamic zone to the master file. If the "-clean" option is specified, the journal file is also removed. If no zone is specified, then all zones are synced.






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        With bind 9.9, "rndc sync" is not enough; you also need the "-clean" flag:




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        Sync changes in the journal file for a dynamic zone to the master file. If the "-clean" option is specified, the journal file is also removed. If no zone is specified, then all zones are synced.







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