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  • Thanks for asking. I was concerned about trashing the OS default perl and cpan after a round of trying to use MacPorts's perl5. I could not get a Github perl project to build (make) with Macports, so I switched to the default perl and the make succeeded. I was then afraid that the process might have mucked up default modules. Can you tell I am a perl noob? Anyway, after much perl -V and file diffs between a clean system and mine, I convinced myself it was fine.

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  • Thanks for asking. I was concerned about trashing the OS default perl and cpan after a round of trying to use MacPorts's perl5. I could not get a Github perl project to build (make) with Macports, so I switched to the default perl and the make succeeded. I was then afraid that the process might have mucked up default modules. Can you tell I am a perl noob? Anyway, after much perl -V and file diffs between a clean system and mine, I convinced myself it was fine.

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  • Thanks for asking. I was concerned about trashing the OS default perl and cpan after a round of trying to use MacPorts's perl5. I could not get a Github perl project to build (make) with Macports, so I switched to the default perl and the make succeeded. I was then afraid that the process might have mucked up default modules. Can you tell I am a perl noob? Anyway, after much perl -V and file diffs between a clean system and mine, I convinced myself it was fine.

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    What happened to them?

    – JBis
    May 5 at 2:33











  • Thanks for asking. I was concerned about trashing the OS default perl and cpan after a round of trying to use MacPorts's perl5. I could not get a Github perl project to build (make) with Macports, so I switched to the default perl and the make succeeded. I was then afraid that the process might have mucked up default modules. Can you tell I am a perl noob? Anyway, after much perl -V and file diffs between a clean system and mine, I convinced myself it was fine.

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– JBis
May 5 at 2:33













Thanks for asking. I was concerned about trashing the OS default perl and cpan after a round of trying to use MacPorts's perl5. I could not get a Github perl project to build (make) with Macports, so I switched to the default perl and the make succeeded. I was then afraid that the process might have mucked up default modules. Can you tell I am a perl noob? Anyway, after much perl -V and file diffs between a clean system and mine, I convinced myself it was fine.

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Thanks for asking. I was concerned about trashing the OS default perl and cpan after a round of trying to use MacPorts's perl5. I could not get a Github perl project to build (make) with Macports, so I switched to the default perl and the make succeeded. I was then afraid that the process might have mucked up default modules. Can you tell I am a perl noob? Anyway, after much perl -V and file diffs between a clean system and mine, I convinced myself it was fine.

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  • Thanks nohillside. I spaced out on SIP protections. I was concerned after reading many warnings about NOT using Apple's default perl for development. Anyway see my comment to @JBis also.

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Good post.
Your native Perl will sit in /usr/bin/perl .
If you open the terminal app and at the command line prompt type,



/usr/bin/perl -v


If you have not overridden your native Perl the terminal response should be,




This is perl 5, version 18, subversion 2 built for darwin-thread...




The OSX 10.14 might have upgraded from 5.18.2, even so darwin-thread means it is OSX version. In this case reinstallation is not needed because native Perl was not overridden. The symbolic link determining which perl you are using may need modifying.



Core CPAN is here



ls /System/Library/Perl/5.18


or whatever version of perl OSX 10.14 is running just substitute 5.18 with the output of perl -v if they are different.



cpan binary also exists in the same location as perl.



/usr/bin/cpan -v


However, it is clear when I did this /usr/bin binaries can be overridden (the other responder believed this could not happen) because mine complains cpan it is 5.26 (I use ActivePerl 5.26), that explains alot because there is cpan5.18.2 in the same directory. It would appear cpan has been overridden by ActivePerl, bad people and this should not happen but clearly does.



Problem I run my Perl via /usr/local/bin and simply switch the link from 5.18.2 to ActivePerl (which is not ideal) . I run cpan via cpanm (Anaconda) and ppm (Active perl), so cpan is never used.



Solution for me I need to change my setup for running Perl, like you, not by reinstallation but by restoring the old link in /usr/local/bin from ActivePerl and running it from my own local bin and also redirect the cpan to cpan5.18 in /usr/local/bin (although this might affect ActivePerl's ppm command). Add a comment if you want to know how to do this



The recommended method for future reference for avoiding damaging system Perl is to install Perlbrew or plvar, this keeps everything clean. Again comment below for tips



Possible solution If your core Perl is dead beyond repair ActivePerl might recover this (its a big might), and configure via /usr/local/bin like I should not have done. Anyway its easy enough to try and there is a clean uninstall with it. Again please drop a note in comments if you want advice






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  • I'm not sure I fully understand what your answer here is. Can you edit your answer and focus on the actual steps the OP could take to fix their perl setup?

    – nohillside
    May 5 at 8:18











  • Done, I can't give complete advice without the output of report logs indicated here. The OP must know what CPAN is, so no explanation is required. There are other ways to solve this without reinstalling the entire OS, beyond what I've said here

    – Michael G.
    May 5 at 9:21












  • I miss the specific steps the OP should take. If you don‘t know enough about the specific problem yet putting a comment beneath the question might help

    – nohillside
    May 5 at 9:44











  • The terminal commands to generate the outputs are clear. The OP is a perl programmer, they must be because they understand cpan. It is better for the OP to decide . My guess is the user has installed a new version of Perl and this has disrupted the symbolic links to their native Perl (perl programmers always do this because OSX is behind the current release). If you don't understand Perl it will not be easy to follow the trouble shooting. Alternatively the OP may have trashed native Perl, which is difficult but doable, but we don't know until the output logs of the commnds above are released.

    – Michael G.
    May 5 at 10:23







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    Thanks for the suggestions. I followed some of these in my steps in my research as well. I eventually satisfied myself that all was well.

    – whitey
    May 6 at 16:42


















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Standard binaries are protected by SIP and can‘t easily be removed nor replaced. Booting into recovery and reinstalling macOS only is the easiest way to solve this. You may need to manually reinstall any user-installed CPAN modules again afterwards.






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  • Thanks nohillside. I spaced out on SIP protections. I was concerned after reading many warnings about NOT using Apple's default perl for development. Anyway see my comment to @JBis also.

    – whitey
    May 6 at 16:26















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Standard binaries are protected by SIP and can‘t easily be removed nor replaced. Booting into recovery and reinstalling macOS only is the easiest way to solve this. You may need to manually reinstall any user-installed CPAN modules again afterwards.






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  • Thanks nohillside. I spaced out on SIP protections. I was concerned after reading many warnings about NOT using Apple's default perl for development. Anyway see my comment to @JBis also.

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    May 6 at 16:26













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  • Thanks nohillside. I spaced out on SIP protections. I was concerned after reading many warnings about NOT using Apple's default perl for development. Anyway see my comment to @JBis also.

    – whitey
    May 6 at 16:26

















  • Thanks nohillside. I spaced out on SIP protections. I was concerned after reading many warnings about NOT using Apple's default perl for development. Anyway see my comment to @JBis also.

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Thanks nohillside. I spaced out on SIP protections. I was concerned after reading many warnings about NOT using Apple's default perl for development. Anyway see my comment to @JBis also.

– whitey
May 6 at 16:26





Thanks nohillside. I spaced out on SIP protections. I was concerned after reading many warnings about NOT using Apple's default perl for development. Anyway see my comment to @JBis also.

– whitey
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Good post.
Your native Perl will sit in /usr/bin/perl .
If you open the terminal app and at the command line prompt type,



/usr/bin/perl -v


If you have not overridden your native Perl the terminal response should be,




This is perl 5, version 18, subversion 2 built for darwin-thread...




The OSX 10.14 might have upgraded from 5.18.2, even so darwin-thread means it is OSX version. In this case reinstallation is not needed because native Perl was not overridden. The symbolic link determining which perl you are using may need modifying.



Core CPAN is here



ls /System/Library/Perl/5.18


or whatever version of perl OSX 10.14 is running just substitute 5.18 with the output of perl -v if they are different.



cpan binary also exists in the same location as perl.



/usr/bin/cpan -v


However, it is clear when I did this /usr/bin binaries can be overridden (the other responder believed this could not happen) because mine complains cpan it is 5.26 (I use ActivePerl 5.26), that explains alot because there is cpan5.18.2 in the same directory. It would appear cpan has been overridden by ActivePerl, bad people and this should not happen but clearly does.



Problem I run my Perl via /usr/local/bin and simply switch the link from 5.18.2 to ActivePerl (which is not ideal) . I run cpan via cpanm (Anaconda) and ppm (Active perl), so cpan is never used.



Solution for me I need to change my setup for running Perl, like you, not by reinstallation but by restoring the old link in /usr/local/bin from ActivePerl and running it from my own local bin and also redirect the cpan to cpan5.18 in /usr/local/bin (although this might affect ActivePerl's ppm command). Add a comment if you want to know how to do this



The recommended method for future reference for avoiding damaging system Perl is to install Perlbrew or plvar, this keeps everything clean. Again comment below for tips



Possible solution If your core Perl is dead beyond repair ActivePerl might recover this (its a big might), and configure via /usr/local/bin like I should not have done. Anyway its easy enough to try and there is a clean uninstall with it. Again please drop a note in comments if you want advice






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  • I'm not sure I fully understand what your answer here is. Can you edit your answer and focus on the actual steps the OP could take to fix their perl setup?

    – nohillside
    May 5 at 8:18











  • Done, I can't give complete advice without the output of report logs indicated here. The OP must know what CPAN is, so no explanation is required. There are other ways to solve this without reinstalling the entire OS, beyond what I've said here

    – Michael G.
    May 5 at 9:21












  • I miss the specific steps the OP should take. If you don‘t know enough about the specific problem yet putting a comment beneath the question might help

    – nohillside
    May 5 at 9:44











  • The terminal commands to generate the outputs are clear. The OP is a perl programmer, they must be because they understand cpan. It is better for the OP to decide . My guess is the user has installed a new version of Perl and this has disrupted the symbolic links to their native Perl (perl programmers always do this because OSX is behind the current release). If you don't understand Perl it will not be easy to follow the trouble shooting. Alternatively the OP may have trashed native Perl, which is difficult but doable, but we don't know until the output logs of the commnds above are released.

    – Michael G.
    May 5 at 10:23







  • 1





    Thanks for the suggestions. I followed some of these in my steps in my research as well. I eventually satisfied myself that all was well.

    – whitey
    May 6 at 16:42















-2














Good post.
Your native Perl will sit in /usr/bin/perl .
If you open the terminal app and at the command line prompt type,



/usr/bin/perl -v


If you have not overridden your native Perl the terminal response should be,




This is perl 5, version 18, subversion 2 built for darwin-thread...




The OSX 10.14 might have upgraded from 5.18.2, even so darwin-thread means it is OSX version. In this case reinstallation is not needed because native Perl was not overridden. The symbolic link determining which perl you are using may need modifying.



Core CPAN is here



ls /System/Library/Perl/5.18


or whatever version of perl OSX 10.14 is running just substitute 5.18 with the output of perl -v if they are different.



cpan binary also exists in the same location as perl.



/usr/bin/cpan -v


However, it is clear when I did this /usr/bin binaries can be overridden (the other responder believed this could not happen) because mine complains cpan it is 5.26 (I use ActivePerl 5.26), that explains alot because there is cpan5.18.2 in the same directory. It would appear cpan has been overridden by ActivePerl, bad people and this should not happen but clearly does.



Problem I run my Perl via /usr/local/bin and simply switch the link from 5.18.2 to ActivePerl (which is not ideal) . I run cpan via cpanm (Anaconda) and ppm (Active perl), so cpan is never used.



Solution for me I need to change my setup for running Perl, like you, not by reinstallation but by restoring the old link in /usr/local/bin from ActivePerl and running it from my own local bin and also redirect the cpan to cpan5.18 in /usr/local/bin (although this might affect ActivePerl's ppm command). Add a comment if you want to know how to do this



The recommended method for future reference for avoiding damaging system Perl is to install Perlbrew or plvar, this keeps everything clean. Again comment below for tips



Possible solution If your core Perl is dead beyond repair ActivePerl might recover this (its a big might), and configure via /usr/local/bin like I should not have done. Anyway its easy enough to try and there is a clean uninstall with it. Again please drop a note in comments if you want advice






share|improve this answer

























  • I'm not sure I fully understand what your answer here is. Can you edit your answer and focus on the actual steps the OP could take to fix their perl setup?

    – nohillside
    May 5 at 8:18











  • Done, I can't give complete advice without the output of report logs indicated here. The OP must know what CPAN is, so no explanation is required. There are other ways to solve this without reinstalling the entire OS, beyond what I've said here

    – Michael G.
    May 5 at 9:21












  • I miss the specific steps the OP should take. If you don‘t know enough about the specific problem yet putting a comment beneath the question might help

    – nohillside
    May 5 at 9:44











  • The terminal commands to generate the outputs are clear. The OP is a perl programmer, they must be because they understand cpan. It is better for the OP to decide . My guess is the user has installed a new version of Perl and this has disrupted the symbolic links to their native Perl (perl programmers always do this because OSX is behind the current release). If you don't understand Perl it will not be easy to follow the trouble shooting. Alternatively the OP may have trashed native Perl, which is difficult but doable, but we don't know until the output logs of the commnds above are released.

    – Michael G.
    May 5 at 10:23







  • 1





    Thanks for the suggestions. I followed some of these in my steps in my research as well. I eventually satisfied myself that all was well.

    – whitey
    May 6 at 16:42













-2












-2








-2







Good post.
Your native Perl will sit in /usr/bin/perl .
If you open the terminal app and at the command line prompt type,



/usr/bin/perl -v


If you have not overridden your native Perl the terminal response should be,




This is perl 5, version 18, subversion 2 built for darwin-thread...




The OSX 10.14 might have upgraded from 5.18.2, even so darwin-thread means it is OSX version. In this case reinstallation is not needed because native Perl was not overridden. The symbolic link determining which perl you are using may need modifying.



Core CPAN is here



ls /System/Library/Perl/5.18


or whatever version of perl OSX 10.14 is running just substitute 5.18 with the output of perl -v if they are different.



cpan binary also exists in the same location as perl.



/usr/bin/cpan -v


However, it is clear when I did this /usr/bin binaries can be overridden (the other responder believed this could not happen) because mine complains cpan it is 5.26 (I use ActivePerl 5.26), that explains alot because there is cpan5.18.2 in the same directory. It would appear cpan has been overridden by ActivePerl, bad people and this should not happen but clearly does.



Problem I run my Perl via /usr/local/bin and simply switch the link from 5.18.2 to ActivePerl (which is not ideal) . I run cpan via cpanm (Anaconda) and ppm (Active perl), so cpan is never used.



Solution for me I need to change my setup for running Perl, like you, not by reinstallation but by restoring the old link in /usr/local/bin from ActivePerl and running it from my own local bin and also redirect the cpan to cpan5.18 in /usr/local/bin (although this might affect ActivePerl's ppm command). Add a comment if you want to know how to do this



The recommended method for future reference for avoiding damaging system Perl is to install Perlbrew or plvar, this keeps everything clean. Again comment below for tips



Possible solution If your core Perl is dead beyond repair ActivePerl might recover this (its a big might), and configure via /usr/local/bin like I should not have done. Anyway its easy enough to try and there is a clean uninstall with it. Again please drop a note in comments if you want advice






share|improve this answer















Good post.
Your native Perl will sit in /usr/bin/perl .
If you open the terminal app and at the command line prompt type,



/usr/bin/perl -v


If you have not overridden your native Perl the terminal response should be,




This is perl 5, version 18, subversion 2 built for darwin-thread...




The OSX 10.14 might have upgraded from 5.18.2, even so darwin-thread means it is OSX version. In this case reinstallation is not needed because native Perl was not overridden. The symbolic link determining which perl you are using may need modifying.



Core CPAN is here



ls /System/Library/Perl/5.18


or whatever version of perl OSX 10.14 is running just substitute 5.18 with the output of perl -v if they are different.



cpan binary also exists in the same location as perl.



/usr/bin/cpan -v


However, it is clear when I did this /usr/bin binaries can be overridden (the other responder believed this could not happen) because mine complains cpan it is 5.26 (I use ActivePerl 5.26), that explains alot because there is cpan5.18.2 in the same directory. It would appear cpan has been overridden by ActivePerl, bad people and this should not happen but clearly does.



Problem I run my Perl via /usr/local/bin and simply switch the link from 5.18.2 to ActivePerl (which is not ideal) . I run cpan via cpanm (Anaconda) and ppm (Active perl), so cpan is never used.



Solution for me I need to change my setup for running Perl, like you, not by reinstallation but by restoring the old link in /usr/local/bin from ActivePerl and running it from my own local bin and also redirect the cpan to cpan5.18 in /usr/local/bin (although this might affect ActivePerl's ppm command). Add a comment if you want to know how to do this



The recommended method for future reference for avoiding damaging system Perl is to install Perlbrew or plvar, this keeps everything clean. Again comment below for tips



Possible solution If your core Perl is dead beyond repair ActivePerl might recover this (its a big might), and configure via /usr/local/bin like I should not have done. Anyway its easy enough to try and there is a clean uninstall with it. Again please drop a note in comments if you want advice







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  • I'm not sure I fully understand what your answer here is. Can you edit your answer and focus on the actual steps the OP could take to fix their perl setup?

    – nohillside
    May 5 at 8:18











  • Done, I can't give complete advice without the output of report logs indicated here. The OP must know what CPAN is, so no explanation is required. There are other ways to solve this without reinstalling the entire OS, beyond what I've said here

    – Michael G.
    May 5 at 9:21












  • I miss the specific steps the OP should take. If you don‘t know enough about the specific problem yet putting a comment beneath the question might help

    – nohillside
    May 5 at 9:44











  • The terminal commands to generate the outputs are clear. The OP is a perl programmer, they must be because they understand cpan. It is better for the OP to decide . My guess is the user has installed a new version of Perl and this has disrupted the symbolic links to their native Perl (perl programmers always do this because OSX is behind the current release). If you don't understand Perl it will not be easy to follow the trouble shooting. Alternatively the OP may have trashed native Perl, which is difficult but doable, but we don't know until the output logs of the commnds above are released.

    – Michael G.
    May 5 at 10:23







  • 1





    Thanks for the suggestions. I followed some of these in my steps in my research as well. I eventually satisfied myself that all was well.

    – whitey
    May 6 at 16:42

















  • I'm not sure I fully understand what your answer here is. Can you edit your answer and focus on the actual steps the OP could take to fix their perl setup?

    – nohillside
    May 5 at 8:18











  • Done, I can't give complete advice without the output of report logs indicated here. The OP must know what CPAN is, so no explanation is required. There are other ways to solve this without reinstalling the entire OS, beyond what I've said here

    – Michael G.
    May 5 at 9:21












  • I miss the specific steps the OP should take. If you don‘t know enough about the specific problem yet putting a comment beneath the question might help

    – nohillside
    May 5 at 9:44











  • The terminal commands to generate the outputs are clear. The OP is a perl programmer, they must be because they understand cpan. It is better for the OP to decide . My guess is the user has installed a new version of Perl and this has disrupted the symbolic links to their native Perl (perl programmers always do this because OSX is behind the current release). If you don't understand Perl it will not be easy to follow the trouble shooting. Alternatively the OP may have trashed native Perl, which is difficult but doable, but we don't know until the output logs of the commnds above are released.

    – Michael G.
    May 5 at 10:23







  • 1





    Thanks for the suggestions. I followed some of these in my steps in my research as well. I eventually satisfied myself that all was well.

    – whitey
    May 6 at 16:42
















I'm not sure I fully understand what your answer here is. Can you edit your answer and focus on the actual steps the OP could take to fix their perl setup?

– nohillside
May 5 at 8:18





I'm not sure I fully understand what your answer here is. Can you edit your answer and focus on the actual steps the OP could take to fix their perl setup?

– nohillside
May 5 at 8:18













Done, I can't give complete advice without the output of report logs indicated here. The OP must know what CPAN is, so no explanation is required. There are other ways to solve this without reinstalling the entire OS, beyond what I've said here

– Michael G.
May 5 at 9:21






Done, I can't give complete advice without the output of report logs indicated here. The OP must know what CPAN is, so no explanation is required. There are other ways to solve this without reinstalling the entire OS, beyond what I've said here

– Michael G.
May 5 at 9:21














I miss the specific steps the OP should take. If you don‘t know enough about the specific problem yet putting a comment beneath the question might help

– nohillside
May 5 at 9:44





I miss the specific steps the OP should take. If you don‘t know enough about the specific problem yet putting a comment beneath the question might help

– nohillside
May 5 at 9:44













The terminal commands to generate the outputs are clear. The OP is a perl programmer, they must be because they understand cpan. It is better for the OP to decide . My guess is the user has installed a new version of Perl and this has disrupted the symbolic links to their native Perl (perl programmers always do this because OSX is behind the current release). If you don't understand Perl it will not be easy to follow the trouble shooting. Alternatively the OP may have trashed native Perl, which is difficult but doable, but we don't know until the output logs of the commnds above are released.

– Michael G.
May 5 at 10:23






The terminal commands to generate the outputs are clear. The OP is a perl programmer, they must be because they understand cpan. It is better for the OP to decide . My guess is the user has installed a new version of Perl and this has disrupted the symbolic links to their native Perl (perl programmers always do this because OSX is behind the current release). If you don't understand Perl it will not be easy to follow the trouble shooting. Alternatively the OP may have trashed native Perl, which is difficult but doable, but we don't know until the output logs of the commnds above are released.

– Michael G.
May 5 at 10:23





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Thanks for the suggestions. I followed some of these in my steps in my research as well. I eventually satisfied myself that all was well.

– whitey
May 6 at 16:42





Thanks for the suggestions. I followed some of these in my steps in my research as well. I eventually satisfied myself that all was well.

– whitey
May 6 at 16:42



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