to say + tara form2 versions of tara ii no niIs this a proper use of tara and toki for “when”?What is this colloquial / dialect form? 〜たるけんねWhen is よう written in kanji as 様?Help me understand the grammar of this sentence: ～のこと～のこと、～なってもらえたかなThe meaning of 来なんだ (a seemingly archaic form)てくれる vs てもらう when the topic or subject is impliedTranslation Help with a HelloTalk MessageStative verbs treatment受け身形, 使役形, and 使役受け身形: A side by side comparison practice
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to say + tara form
2 versions of tara ii no niIs this a proper use of tara and toki for “when”?What is this colloquial / dialect form? 〜たるけんねWhen is よう written in kanji as 様?Help me understand the grammar of this sentence: ～のこと～のこと、～なってもらえたかなThe meaning of 来なんだ (a seemingly archaic form)てくれる vs てもらう when the topic or subject is impliedTranslation Help with a HelloTalk MessageStative verbs treatment受け身形, 使役形, and 使役受け身形: A side by side comparison practice
I am a beginner of Japanese. Currently I've been studying for 1 month already and I am still n5. I try to watch Japanese TV as much as possible even though I don't understand what most of them say just so I can distinguish which words I do understand. I've also been doing some advance reading on certain topics like "+tara" form out of curiosity since I've been hearing that word a lot.
From what I researched, when you use the tara form, you change the verb into plain past form, like aru becomes attara. I guess my question is, why do people in TV say iu tara (as in 言う). Shouldn't it be ittara or itte itara? This question has been bothering me quite a lot like an itch I need to scratch. Any feedback is much appreciated! Thank you very much.
grammar dialects kansai-ben grammar-constructions
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I am a beginner of Japanese. Currently I've been studying for 1 month already and I am still n5. I try to watch Japanese TV as much as possible even though I don't understand what most of them say just so I can distinguish which words I do understand. I've also been doing some advance reading on certain topics like "+tara" form out of curiosity since I've been hearing that word a lot.
From what I researched, when you use the tara form, you change the verb into plain past form, like aru becomes attara. I guess my question is, why do people in TV say iu tara (as in 言う). Shouldn't it be ittara or itte itara? This question has been bothering me quite a lot like an itch I need to scratch. Any feedback is much appreciated! Thank you very much.
grammar dialects kansai-ben grammar-constructions
edited May 5 at 12:39
Ringil
5,11221337
asked May 5 at 4:25
Jp ArcillaJp Arcilla
784
On a side note, I also noticed that many people in Tokyo (don't know about other dialects) read 言ったら as いうったら rather than いったら. I mean, despite making the pause corresponding to the small っ, the previous うsound is mildly audible as well.
– jarmanso7
May 5 at 11:39
1
^ 「いうったら」じゃなくて 「ゆったら」って言ってるんじゃないですかね・・
– Chocolate♦
May 5 at 13:01
add a comment |
I am a beginner of Japanese. Currently I've been studying for 1 month already and I am still n5. I try to watch Japanese TV as much as possible even though I don't understand what most of them say just so I can distinguish which words I do understand. I've also been doing some advance reading on certain topics like "+tara" form out of curiosity since I've been hearing that word a lot.
From what I researched, when you use the tara form, you change the verb into plain past form, like aru becomes attara. I guess my question is, why do people in TV say iu tara (as in 言う). Shouldn't it be ittara or itte itara? This question has been bothering me quite a lot like an itch I need to scratch. Any feedback is much appreciated! Thank you very much.
grammar dialects kansai-ben grammar-constructions
edited May 5 at 12:39
Ringil
5,11221337
asked May 5 at 4:25
Jp ArcillaJp Arcilla
784
I am a beginner of Japanese. Currently I've been studying for 1 month already and I am still n5. I try to watch Japanese TV as much as possible even though I don't understand what most of them say just so I can distinguish which words I do understand. I've also been doing some advance reading on certain topics like "+tara" form out of curiosity since I've been hearing that word a lot.
From what I researched, when you use the tara form, you change the verb into plain past form, like aru becomes attara. I guess my question is, why do people in TV say iu tara (as in 言う). Shouldn't it be ittara or itte itara? This question has been bothering me quite a lot like an itch I need to scratch. Any feedback is much appreciated! Thank you very much.
grammar dialects kansai-ben grammar-constructions
grammar dialects kansai-ben grammar-constructions
edited May 5 at 12:39
Ringil
5,11221337
asked May 5 at 4:25
Jp ArcillaJp Arcilla
784
edited May 5 at 12:39
Ringil
5,11221337
asked May 5 at 4:25
Jp ArcillaJp Arcilla
784
edited May 5 at 12:39
Ringil
5,11221337
edited May 5 at 12:39
Ringil
5,11221337
edited May 5 at 12:39
Ringil
5,11221337
5,11221337
asked May 5 at 4:25
Jp ArcillaJp Arcilla
784
asked May 5 at 4:25
Jp ArcillaJp Arcilla
784
asked May 5 at 4:25
Jp ArcillaJp Arcilla
784
784
On a side note, I also noticed that many people in Tokyo (don't know about other dialects) read 言ったら as いうったら rather than いったら. I mean, despite making the pause corresponding to the small っ, the previous うsound is mildly audible as well.
– jarmanso7
May 5 at 11:39
1
^ 「いうったら」じゃなくて 「ゆったら」って言ってるんじゃないですかね・・
– Chocolate♦
May 5 at 13:01
add a comment |
On a side note, I also noticed that many people in Tokyo (don't know about other dialects) read 言ったら as いうったら rather than いったら. I mean, despite making the pause corresponding to the small っ, the previous うsound is mildly audible as well.
– jarmanso7
May 5 at 11:39
1
^ 「いうったら」じゃなくて 「ゆったら」って言ってるんじゃないですかね・・
– Chocolate♦
May 5 at 13:01
On a side note, I also noticed that many people in Tokyo (don't know about other dialects) read 言ったら as いうったら rather than いったら. I mean, despite making the pause corresponding to the small っ, the previous うsound is mildly audible as well.
– jarmanso7
May 5 at 11:39
On a side note, I also noticed that many people in Tokyo (don't know about other dialects) read 言ったら as いうったら rather than いったら. I mean, despite making the pause corresponding to the small っ, the previous うsound is mildly audible as well.
– jarmanso7
May 5 at 11:39
1
1
^ 「いうったら」じゃなくて 「ゆったら」って言ってるんじゃないですかね・・
– Chocolate♦
May 5 at 13:01
^ 「いうったら」じゃなくて 「ゆったら」って言ってるんじゃないですかね・・
– Chocolate♦
May 5 at 13:01
add a comment |
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「言う」+「たら」
In Standard Japanese, the only correct combined form is:
「言ったら」
In Kansai dialects, however,
「言うたら」
is also used on a daily basis. It is a regionally correct form.
Currently, many popular TV personalities in Japan are indeed from Kansai (including a number of most successful ones). Thus, it is only natural that you frequently hear 「言うたら」 on TV.
answered May 5 at 7:24
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Thank you so much!!! I've been trying to figure that one but I couldn't find any answers on google.
– Jp Arcilla
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「言う」+「たら」
In Standard Japanese, the only correct combined form is:
「言ったら」
In Kansai dialects, however,
「言うたら」
is also used on a daily basis. It is a regionally correct form.
Currently, many popular TV personalities in Japan are indeed from Kansai (including a number of most successful ones). Thus, it is only natural that you frequently hear 「言うたら」 on TV.
answered May 5 at 7:24
l'électeurl'électeur
132k9172283
Thank you so much!!! I've been trying to figure that one but I couldn't find any answers on google.
– Jp Arcilla
May 5 at 11:14
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「言う」+「たら」
In Standard Japanese, the only correct combined form is:
「言ったら」
In Kansai dialects, however,
「言うたら」
is also used on a daily basis. It is a regionally correct form.
Currently, many popular TV personalities in Japan are indeed from Kansai (including a number of most successful ones). Thus, it is only natural that you frequently hear 「言うたら」 on TV.
answered May 5 at 7:24
l'électeurl'électeur
132k9172283
Thank you so much!!! I've been trying to figure that one but I couldn't find any answers on google.
– Jp Arcilla
May 5 at 11:14
add a comment |
「言う」+「たら」
In Standard Japanese, the only correct combined form is:
「言ったら」
In Kansai dialects, however,
「言うたら」
is also used on a daily basis. It is a regionally correct form.
Currently, many popular TV personalities in Japan are indeed from Kansai (including a number of most successful ones). Thus, it is only natural that you frequently hear 「言うたら」 on TV.
answered May 5 at 7:24
l'électeurl'électeur
132k9172283
「言う」+「たら」
In Standard Japanese, the only correct combined form is:
「言ったら」
In Kansai dialects, however,
「言うたら」
is also used on a daily basis. It is a regionally correct form.
Currently, many popular TV personalities in Japan are indeed from Kansai (including a number of most successful ones). Thus, it is only natural that you frequently hear 「言うたら」 on TV.
answered May 5 at 7:24
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132k9172283
answered May 5 at 7:24
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Thank you so much!!! I've been trying to figure that one but I couldn't find any answers on google.
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Thank you so much!!! I've been trying to figure that one but I couldn't find any answers on google.
– Jp Arcilla
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Thank you so much!!! I've been trying to figure that one but I couldn't find any answers on google.
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Thank you so much!!! I've been trying to figure that one but I couldn't find any answers on google.
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On a side note, I also noticed that many people in Tokyo (don't know about other dialects) read 言ったら as いうったら rather than いったら. I mean, despite making the pause corresponding to the small っ, the previous うsound is mildly audible as well.
– jarmanso7
May 5 at 11:39
1
^ 「いうったら」じゃなくて 「ゆったら」って言ってるんじゃないですかね・・
– Chocolate♦
May 5 at 13:01