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Can I utilise a baking stone to make crepes?


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If I will heat the stone in the oven, will it retain heat long sufficiently once out of the oven to make a few crepes? Will the dough not stick to the stone and will it distribute uniformly or it will form patches?










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If I will heat the stone in the oven, will it retain heat long sufficiently once out of the oven to make a few crepes? Will the dough not stick to the stone and will it distribute uniformly or it will form patches?










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I think it's a bad idea...



Crepes are made with a batter (as opposed to a dough) spread thin over a hot metal plate (seasoned or oiled).



crepe maker



A baking stone has a porous surface and I suppose the batter would just get stuck to your stone. It doesn't happen with a dough because it has enough structure to not fill every pore of the stone on contact.



On the other hand, if you had a baking steel instead... that might work, they usually have enough mass to hold heat for some time (and they don't crack).



baking steel



(disclaimer: I'm not associated with the brand, but I do have one of these and it's awesome)



Pre-heat it, brush oil over it and spread your batter. I'm not sure how many crepes you can do before having to send the steel back to the oven, and then it will take a while to have it hot again, so it might not be practical.






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  • 3





    A good answer. When I put an unbaked dough, for instance pizza, on my stone I need to put a load of semolina, flour or the like to keep it from sticking like glue, a batter would be nearly impossible to get off.

    – GdD
    Jun 6 at 10:10






  • 1





    Thank you, Luciano. To me, however, utilising baking steel on top of such stone does not look like a very good idea either. Steel isn't known to be a non-stick surface...

    – Noir
    Jun 6 at 10:14







  • 7





    Like I said, you have to oil the surface. It's how crepe is traditionally made. Also I don't mean to use the baking steel on top of the stone, but instead of.

    – Luciano
    Jun 6 at 10:57






  • 3





    Not coated, just oiled stainless steel. If you search for "baking steel" you're going to find a few different brands with different thickness / sizes, but it's essentially a thick slab of steel (thick enough that it doesn't warp / bend).

    – Luciano
    Jun 6 at 11:26






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    @Noir A standard crepe hot plate is also made out of stainless steel. The non-stick-ness comes from seasoning it with oil.

    – Sneftel
    Jun 7 at 8:09


















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No, don't do it.



Good crepes are made within narrow parameters of heat exchange. You can observe this when making crepes on the stovetop - the first crepe is almost always bad. The pan seems to be either not hot enough, or too hot. After the first one, it somehow "stabilizes", or extra heat starts to creep on you. In the second case, it will get too hot after a while, and your crepes will start throwing bubbles on the first side and burning on the second.



If you are in the good zone though, and decide to reduce the heat - say because you have been making nice crepes for the past 20 minutes and now it is your last crepe and you want to turn off the plate early - you will end up with a bad crepe again, even if you think that you have enough heat left over from keeping the pan (and the plate below it) hot for so long.



Given that crepes are so sensitive to temperature, I wouldn't even start experimenting with your stone setup. If you don't have a stove, get a portable plate, they are cheap and versatile and don't take up much space. I used to have an induction unit that was quite nice and made good crepes.






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  • 3





    Good point, the first crepe is always eaten by the cook, because it's never presentable

    – George M
    Jun 6 at 21:05






  • 1





    Cooking crepes is a science (or more like alchemy, +1). There has to be a thousand ways you can make them, NONE of which DO NOT use a frying pan.

    – Mazura
    Jun 8 at 3:29











  • also works with a campfire... but only when making some bay beside it, where to push a little ember into; else they're black soon. baking steel might work, but distributing the batter might not work as expected - plus the risk of burnt fingers.

    – Martin Zeitler
    Jun 8 at 20:16












  • @MartinZeitler, how the batter will distribute on a baking steel, as you saw or imagine it?

    – Noir
    Jun 12 at 9:08


















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All of the baking stones I know need to be slowly heated and cooled down - i.e. they go into the oven before it's turned on, and stay in the oven (with the door closed) after it's turned off. Otherwise you might find yourself holding pieces of your baking stone, with the rest of the heavy and hot stone falling on your feet, wooden floor, pet, etc.



So don't try this for safety reasons.






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  • Really? Oh, good, thank you very much for the warning.

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I think it's a bad idea...



Crepes are made with a batter (as opposed to a dough) spread thin over a hot metal plate (seasoned or oiled).



crepe maker



A baking stone has a porous surface and I suppose the batter would just get stuck to your stone. It doesn't happen with a dough because it has enough structure to not fill every pore of the stone on contact.



On the other hand, if you had a baking steel instead... that might work, they usually have enough mass to hold heat for some time (and they don't crack).



baking steel



(disclaimer: I'm not associated with the brand, but I do have one of these and it's awesome)



Pre-heat it, brush oil over it and spread your batter. I'm not sure how many crepes you can do before having to send the steel back to the oven, and then it will take a while to have it hot again, so it might not be practical.






share|improve this answer




















  • 3





    A good answer. When I put an unbaked dough, for instance pizza, on my stone I need to put a load of semolina, flour or the like to keep it from sticking like glue, a batter would be nearly impossible to get off.

    – GdD
    Jun 6 at 10:10






  • 1





    Thank you, Luciano. To me, however, utilising baking steel on top of such stone does not look like a very good idea either. Steel isn't known to be a non-stick surface...

    – Noir
    Jun 6 at 10:14







  • 7





    Like I said, you have to oil the surface. It's how crepe is traditionally made. Also I don't mean to use the baking steel on top of the stone, but instead of.

    – Luciano
    Jun 6 at 10:57






  • 3





    Not coated, just oiled stainless steel. If you search for "baking steel" you're going to find a few different brands with different thickness / sizes, but it's essentially a thick slab of steel (thick enough that it doesn't warp / bend).

    – Luciano
    Jun 6 at 11:26






  • 1





    @Noir A standard crepe hot plate is also made out of stainless steel. The non-stick-ness comes from seasoning it with oil.

    – Sneftel
    Jun 7 at 8:09















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I think it's a bad idea...



Crepes are made with a batter (as opposed to a dough) spread thin over a hot metal plate (seasoned or oiled).



crepe maker



A baking stone has a porous surface and I suppose the batter would just get stuck to your stone. It doesn't happen with a dough because it has enough structure to not fill every pore of the stone on contact.



On the other hand, if you had a baking steel instead... that might work, they usually have enough mass to hold heat for some time (and they don't crack).



baking steel



(disclaimer: I'm not associated with the brand, but I do have one of these and it's awesome)



Pre-heat it, brush oil over it and spread your batter. I'm not sure how many crepes you can do before having to send the steel back to the oven, and then it will take a while to have it hot again, so it might not be practical.






share|improve this answer




















  • 3





    A good answer. When I put an unbaked dough, for instance pizza, on my stone I need to put a load of semolina, flour or the like to keep it from sticking like glue, a batter would be nearly impossible to get off.

    – GdD
    Jun 6 at 10:10






  • 1





    Thank you, Luciano. To me, however, utilising baking steel on top of such stone does not look like a very good idea either. Steel isn't known to be a non-stick surface...

    – Noir
    Jun 6 at 10:14







  • 7





    Like I said, you have to oil the surface. It's how crepe is traditionally made. Also I don't mean to use the baking steel on top of the stone, but instead of.

    – Luciano
    Jun 6 at 10:57






  • 3





    Not coated, just oiled stainless steel. If you search for "baking steel" you're going to find a few different brands with different thickness / sizes, but it's essentially a thick slab of steel (thick enough that it doesn't warp / bend).

    – Luciano
    Jun 6 at 11:26






  • 1





    @Noir A standard crepe hot plate is also made out of stainless steel. The non-stick-ness comes from seasoning it with oil.

    – Sneftel
    Jun 7 at 8:09













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I think it's a bad idea...



Crepes are made with a batter (as opposed to a dough) spread thin over a hot metal plate (seasoned or oiled).



crepe maker



A baking stone has a porous surface and I suppose the batter would just get stuck to your stone. It doesn't happen with a dough because it has enough structure to not fill every pore of the stone on contact.



On the other hand, if you had a baking steel instead... that might work, they usually have enough mass to hold heat for some time (and they don't crack).



baking steel



(disclaimer: I'm not associated with the brand, but I do have one of these and it's awesome)



Pre-heat it, brush oil over it and spread your batter. I'm not sure how many crepes you can do before having to send the steel back to the oven, and then it will take a while to have it hot again, so it might not be practical.






share|improve this answer















I think it's a bad idea...



Crepes are made with a batter (as opposed to a dough) spread thin over a hot metal plate (seasoned or oiled).



crepe maker



A baking stone has a porous surface and I suppose the batter would just get stuck to your stone. It doesn't happen with a dough because it has enough structure to not fill every pore of the stone on contact.



On the other hand, if you had a baking steel instead... that might work, they usually have enough mass to hold heat for some time (and they don't crack).



baking steel



(disclaimer: I'm not associated with the brand, but I do have one of these and it's awesome)



Pre-heat it, brush oil over it and spread your batter. I'm not sure how many crepes you can do before having to send the steel back to the oven, and then it will take a while to have it hot again, so it might not be practical.







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  • 3





    A good answer. When I put an unbaked dough, for instance pizza, on my stone I need to put a load of semolina, flour or the like to keep it from sticking like glue, a batter would be nearly impossible to get off.

    – GdD
    Jun 6 at 10:10






  • 1





    Thank you, Luciano. To me, however, utilising baking steel on top of such stone does not look like a very good idea either. Steel isn't known to be a non-stick surface...

    – Noir
    Jun 6 at 10:14







  • 7





    Like I said, you have to oil the surface. It's how crepe is traditionally made. Also I don't mean to use the baking steel on top of the stone, but instead of.

    – Luciano
    Jun 6 at 10:57






  • 3





    Not coated, just oiled stainless steel. If you search for "baking steel" you're going to find a few different brands with different thickness / sizes, but it's essentially a thick slab of steel (thick enough that it doesn't warp / bend).

    – Luciano
    Jun 6 at 11:26






  • 1





    @Noir A standard crepe hot plate is also made out of stainless steel. The non-stick-ness comes from seasoning it with oil.

    – Sneftel
    Jun 7 at 8:09












  • 3





    A good answer. When I put an unbaked dough, for instance pizza, on my stone I need to put a load of semolina, flour or the like to keep it from sticking like glue, a batter would be nearly impossible to get off.

    – GdD
    Jun 6 at 10:10






  • 1





    Thank you, Luciano. To me, however, utilising baking steel on top of such stone does not look like a very good idea either. Steel isn't known to be a non-stick surface...

    – Noir
    Jun 6 at 10:14







  • 7





    Like I said, you have to oil the surface. It's how crepe is traditionally made. Also I don't mean to use the baking steel on top of the stone, but instead of.

    – Luciano
    Jun 6 at 10:57






  • 3





    Not coated, just oiled stainless steel. If you search for "baking steel" you're going to find a few different brands with different thickness / sizes, but it's essentially a thick slab of steel (thick enough that it doesn't warp / bend).

    – Luciano
    Jun 6 at 11:26






  • 1





    @Noir A standard crepe hot plate is also made out of stainless steel. The non-stick-ness comes from seasoning it with oil.

    – Sneftel
    Jun 7 at 8:09







3




3





A good answer. When I put an unbaked dough, for instance pizza, on my stone I need to put a load of semolina, flour or the like to keep it from sticking like glue, a batter would be nearly impossible to get off.

– GdD
Jun 6 at 10:10





A good answer. When I put an unbaked dough, for instance pizza, on my stone I need to put a load of semolina, flour or the like to keep it from sticking like glue, a batter would be nearly impossible to get off.

– GdD
Jun 6 at 10:10




1




1





Thank you, Luciano. To me, however, utilising baking steel on top of such stone does not look like a very good idea either. Steel isn't known to be a non-stick surface...

– Noir
Jun 6 at 10:14






Thank you, Luciano. To me, however, utilising baking steel on top of such stone does not look like a very good idea either. Steel isn't known to be a non-stick surface...

– Noir
Jun 6 at 10:14





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Like I said, you have to oil the surface. It's how crepe is traditionally made. Also I don't mean to use the baking steel on top of the stone, but instead of.

– Luciano
Jun 6 at 10:57





Like I said, you have to oil the surface. It's how crepe is traditionally made. Also I don't mean to use the baking steel on top of the stone, but instead of.

– Luciano
Jun 6 at 10:57




3




3





Not coated, just oiled stainless steel. If you search for "baking steel" you're going to find a few different brands with different thickness / sizes, but it's essentially a thick slab of steel (thick enough that it doesn't warp / bend).

– Luciano
Jun 6 at 11:26





Not coated, just oiled stainless steel. If you search for "baking steel" you're going to find a few different brands with different thickness / sizes, but it's essentially a thick slab of steel (thick enough that it doesn't warp / bend).

– Luciano
Jun 6 at 11:26




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1





@Noir A standard crepe hot plate is also made out of stainless steel. The non-stick-ness comes from seasoning it with oil.

– Sneftel
Jun 7 at 8:09





@Noir A standard crepe hot plate is also made out of stainless steel. The non-stick-ness comes from seasoning it with oil.

– Sneftel
Jun 7 at 8:09













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No, don't do it.



Good crepes are made within narrow parameters of heat exchange. You can observe this when making crepes on the stovetop - the first crepe is almost always bad. The pan seems to be either not hot enough, or too hot. After the first one, it somehow "stabilizes", or extra heat starts to creep on you. In the second case, it will get too hot after a while, and your crepes will start throwing bubbles on the first side and burning on the second.



If you are in the good zone though, and decide to reduce the heat - say because you have been making nice crepes for the past 20 minutes and now it is your last crepe and you want to turn off the plate early - you will end up with a bad crepe again, even if you think that you have enough heat left over from keeping the pan (and the plate below it) hot for so long.



Given that crepes are so sensitive to temperature, I wouldn't even start experimenting with your stone setup. If you don't have a stove, get a portable plate, they are cheap and versatile and don't take up much space. I used to have an induction unit that was quite nice and made good crepes.






share|improve this answer


















  • 3





    Good point, the first crepe is always eaten by the cook, because it's never presentable

    – George M
    Jun 6 at 21:05






  • 1





    Cooking crepes is a science (or more like alchemy, +1). There has to be a thousand ways you can make them, NONE of which DO NOT use a frying pan.

    – Mazura
    Jun 8 at 3:29











  • also works with a campfire... but only when making some bay beside it, where to push a little ember into; else they're black soon. baking steel might work, but distributing the batter might not work as expected - plus the risk of burnt fingers.

    – Martin Zeitler
    Jun 8 at 20:16












  • @MartinZeitler, how the batter will distribute on a baking steel, as you saw or imagine it?

    – Noir
    Jun 12 at 9:08















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No, don't do it.



Good crepes are made within narrow parameters of heat exchange. You can observe this when making crepes on the stovetop - the first crepe is almost always bad. The pan seems to be either not hot enough, or too hot. After the first one, it somehow "stabilizes", or extra heat starts to creep on you. In the second case, it will get too hot after a while, and your crepes will start throwing bubbles on the first side and burning on the second.



If you are in the good zone though, and decide to reduce the heat - say because you have been making nice crepes for the past 20 minutes and now it is your last crepe and you want to turn off the plate early - you will end up with a bad crepe again, even if you think that you have enough heat left over from keeping the pan (and the plate below it) hot for so long.



Given that crepes are so sensitive to temperature, I wouldn't even start experimenting with your stone setup. If you don't have a stove, get a portable plate, they are cheap and versatile and don't take up much space. I used to have an induction unit that was quite nice and made good crepes.






share|improve this answer


















  • 3





    Good point, the first crepe is always eaten by the cook, because it's never presentable

    – George M
    Jun 6 at 21:05






  • 1





    Cooking crepes is a science (or more like alchemy, +1). There has to be a thousand ways you can make them, NONE of which DO NOT use a frying pan.

    – Mazura
    Jun 8 at 3:29











  • also works with a campfire... but only when making some bay beside it, where to push a little ember into; else they're black soon. baking steel might work, but distributing the batter might not work as expected - plus the risk of burnt fingers.

    – Martin Zeitler
    Jun 8 at 20:16












  • @MartinZeitler, how the batter will distribute on a baking steel, as you saw or imagine it?

    – Noir
    Jun 12 at 9:08













17












17








17







No, don't do it.



Good crepes are made within narrow parameters of heat exchange. You can observe this when making crepes on the stovetop - the first crepe is almost always bad. The pan seems to be either not hot enough, or too hot. After the first one, it somehow "stabilizes", or extra heat starts to creep on you. In the second case, it will get too hot after a while, and your crepes will start throwing bubbles on the first side and burning on the second.



If you are in the good zone though, and decide to reduce the heat - say because you have been making nice crepes for the past 20 minutes and now it is your last crepe and you want to turn off the plate early - you will end up with a bad crepe again, even if you think that you have enough heat left over from keeping the pan (and the plate below it) hot for so long.



Given that crepes are so sensitive to temperature, I wouldn't even start experimenting with your stone setup. If you don't have a stove, get a portable plate, they are cheap and versatile and don't take up much space. I used to have an induction unit that was quite nice and made good crepes.






share|improve this answer













No, don't do it.



Good crepes are made within narrow parameters of heat exchange. You can observe this when making crepes on the stovetop - the first crepe is almost always bad. The pan seems to be either not hot enough, or too hot. After the first one, it somehow "stabilizes", or extra heat starts to creep on you. In the second case, it will get too hot after a while, and your crepes will start throwing bubbles on the first side and burning on the second.



If you are in the good zone though, and decide to reduce the heat - say because you have been making nice crepes for the past 20 minutes and now it is your last crepe and you want to turn off the plate early - you will end up with a bad crepe again, even if you think that you have enough heat left over from keeping the pan (and the plate below it) hot for so long.



Given that crepes are so sensitive to temperature, I wouldn't even start experimenting with your stone setup. If you don't have a stove, get a portable plate, they are cheap and versatile and don't take up much space. I used to have an induction unit that was quite nice and made good crepes.







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    Good point, the first crepe is always eaten by the cook, because it's never presentable

    – George M
    Jun 6 at 21:05






  • 1





    Cooking crepes is a science (or more like alchemy, +1). There has to be a thousand ways you can make them, NONE of which DO NOT use a frying pan.

    – Mazura
    Jun 8 at 3:29











  • also works with a campfire... but only when making some bay beside it, where to push a little ember into; else they're black soon. baking steel might work, but distributing the batter might not work as expected - plus the risk of burnt fingers.

    – Martin Zeitler
    Jun 8 at 20:16












  • @MartinZeitler, how the batter will distribute on a baking steel, as you saw or imagine it?

    – Noir
    Jun 12 at 9:08












  • 3





    Good point, the first crepe is always eaten by the cook, because it's never presentable

    – George M
    Jun 6 at 21:05






  • 1





    Cooking crepes is a science (or more like alchemy, +1). There has to be a thousand ways you can make them, NONE of which DO NOT use a frying pan.

    – Mazura
    Jun 8 at 3:29











  • also works with a campfire... but only when making some bay beside it, where to push a little ember into; else they're black soon. baking steel might work, but distributing the batter might not work as expected - plus the risk of burnt fingers.

    – Martin Zeitler
    Jun 8 at 20:16












  • @MartinZeitler, how the batter will distribute on a baking steel, as you saw or imagine it?

    – Noir
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Good point, the first crepe is always eaten by the cook, because it's never presentable

– George M
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Good point, the first crepe is always eaten by the cook, because it's never presentable

– George M
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Cooking crepes is a science (or more like alchemy, +1). There has to be a thousand ways you can make them, NONE of which DO NOT use a frying pan.

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Cooking crepes is a science (or more like alchemy, +1). There has to be a thousand ways you can make them, NONE of which DO NOT use a frying pan.

– Mazura
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also works with a campfire... but only when making some bay beside it, where to push a little ember into; else they're black soon. baking steel might work, but distributing the batter might not work as expected - plus the risk of burnt fingers.

– Martin Zeitler
Jun 8 at 20:16






also works with a campfire... but only when making some bay beside it, where to push a little ember into; else they're black soon. baking steel might work, but distributing the batter might not work as expected - plus the risk of burnt fingers.

– Martin Zeitler
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@MartinZeitler, how the batter will distribute on a baking steel, as you saw or imagine it?

– Noir
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@MartinZeitler, how the batter will distribute on a baking steel, as you saw or imagine it?

– Noir
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All of the baking stones I know need to be slowly heated and cooled down - i.e. they go into the oven before it's turned on, and stay in the oven (with the door closed) after it's turned off. Otherwise you might find yourself holding pieces of your baking stone, with the rest of the heavy and hot stone falling on your feet, wooden floor, pet, etc.



So don't try this for safety reasons.






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  • Really? Oh, good, thank you very much for the warning.

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All of the baking stones I know need to be slowly heated and cooled down - i.e. they go into the oven before it's turned on, and stay in the oven (with the door closed) after it's turned off. Otherwise you might find yourself holding pieces of your baking stone, with the rest of the heavy and hot stone falling on your feet, wooden floor, pet, etc.



So don't try this for safety reasons.






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  • Really? Oh, good, thank you very much for the warning.

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All of the baking stones I know need to be slowly heated and cooled down - i.e. they go into the oven before it's turned on, and stay in the oven (with the door closed) after it's turned off. Otherwise you might find yourself holding pieces of your baking stone, with the rest of the heavy and hot stone falling on your feet, wooden floor, pet, etc.



So don't try this for safety reasons.






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All of the baking stones I know need to be slowly heated and cooled down - i.e. they go into the oven before it's turned on, and stay in the oven (with the door closed) after it's turned off. Otherwise you might find yourself holding pieces of your baking stone, with the rest of the heavy and hot stone falling on your feet, wooden floor, pet, etc.



So don't try this for safety reasons.







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