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Track Down Which Process/Program is Causing Kerberos pre-authentication error (Code 0x18)
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We have a domain account that is being locked out via 1 of 2 servers. The built-in auditing only tells us that much (locked out from SERVER1, SERVER2).
The account gets locked out within 5 minutes, about 1 request per minute it seems.
I initially tried to run procmon (from sysinternals) to see if any new PROCESS START were being spawned after I unlock the account. Nothing suspicious comes up. After running procmon on my workstation and elevating to a UAC shell (conscent.exe) it seems like from the stack that ntdll.dll
and rpct4.dll
get called when you try to auth against AD (not sure).
Is there anyway to narrow down which process is causing an authentication request to our DC? It's always the same DC so we know it must be a server out in that site. I could try looking for the calls in wireshark, but I'm not sure that would narrow down which process is actually triggering it.
No services, drive mappings, or scheduled tasks are using that domain account either -- so it must be something that has the domain creds stored. There are no open RDP sessions with that domain account either on any server (we checked).
Further notes
Yes, "Success/Failure" Logon Audits are enabled on the DC in question -- no failure events are logged until the account is actually locked out.
Further digging shows that LSASS.exe
makes a KERBEROS
call to the DC in question once the account is unlocked. It's preceded (generally) by java which seems to be called by vpxd.exe
which is a vCenter process. BUT, when I look at the other "server2" were the account lockout can (also) happen from, I never see a call to lsass.exe
and only apache processes are being spawned. The only relation the two have are that SERVER2 is part of SERVER1's vSphere cluster (server1 being a vSphere OS).
Error on DC
So, it seems all I'm going to be told by AD is that it's a pre-auth Kerberos error. I checked and there were no tickets with klist
and did a flush anyways just in case. Still have no idea what is causing this kerberos error.
Index : 202500597
EntryType : FailureAudit
InstanceId : 4771
Message : Kerberos pre-authentication failed.
Account Information:
Security ID: S-1-5-21-3381590919-2827822839-3002869273-5848
Account Name: USER
Service Information:
Service Name: krbtgt/DOMAIN
Network Information:
Client Address: ::ffff:x.x.x.x
Client Port: 61450
Additional Information:
Ticket Options: 0x40810010
Failure Code: 0x18
Pre-Authentication Type: 2
Certificate Information:
Certificate Issuer Name:
Certificate Serial Number:
Certificate Thumbprint:
Certificate information is only provided if a certificate was used for pre-authentication.
Pre-authentication types, ticket options and failure codes are defined in RFC 4120.
If the ticket was malformed or damaged during transit and could not be decrypted, then many fields
in this event might not be present.
windows windows-server-2008 active-directory kerberos
add a comment |
We have a domain account that is being locked out via 1 of 2 servers. The built-in auditing only tells us that much (locked out from SERVER1, SERVER2).
The account gets locked out within 5 minutes, about 1 request per minute it seems.
I initially tried to run procmon (from sysinternals) to see if any new PROCESS START were being spawned after I unlock the account. Nothing suspicious comes up. After running procmon on my workstation and elevating to a UAC shell (conscent.exe) it seems like from the stack that ntdll.dll
and rpct4.dll
get called when you try to auth against AD (not sure).
Is there anyway to narrow down which process is causing an authentication request to our DC? It's always the same DC so we know it must be a server out in that site. I could try looking for the calls in wireshark, but I'm not sure that would narrow down which process is actually triggering it.
No services, drive mappings, or scheduled tasks are using that domain account either -- so it must be something that has the domain creds stored. There are no open RDP sessions with that domain account either on any server (we checked).
Further notes
Yes, "Success/Failure" Logon Audits are enabled on the DC in question -- no failure events are logged until the account is actually locked out.
Further digging shows that LSASS.exe
makes a KERBEROS
call to the DC in question once the account is unlocked. It's preceded (generally) by java which seems to be called by vpxd.exe
which is a vCenter process. BUT, when I look at the other "server2" were the account lockout can (also) happen from, I never see a call to lsass.exe
and only apache processes are being spawned. The only relation the two have are that SERVER2 is part of SERVER1's vSphere cluster (server1 being a vSphere OS).
Error on DC
So, it seems all I'm going to be told by AD is that it's a pre-auth Kerberos error. I checked and there were no tickets with klist
and did a flush anyways just in case. Still have no idea what is causing this kerberos error.
Index : 202500597
EntryType : FailureAudit
InstanceId : 4771
Message : Kerberos pre-authentication failed.
Account Information:
Security ID: S-1-5-21-3381590919-2827822839-3002869273-5848
Account Name: USER
Service Information:
Service Name: krbtgt/DOMAIN
Network Information:
Client Address: ::ffff:x.x.x.x
Client Port: 61450
Additional Information:
Ticket Options: 0x40810010
Failure Code: 0x18
Pre-Authentication Type: 2
Certificate Information:
Certificate Issuer Name:
Certificate Serial Number:
Certificate Thumbprint:
Certificate information is only provided if a certificate was used for pre-authentication.
Pre-authentication types, ticket options and failure codes are defined in RFC 4120.
If the ticket was malformed or damaged during transit and could not be decrypted, then many fields
in this event might not be present.
windows windows-server-2008 active-directory kerberos
add a comment |
We have a domain account that is being locked out via 1 of 2 servers. The built-in auditing only tells us that much (locked out from SERVER1, SERVER2).
The account gets locked out within 5 minutes, about 1 request per minute it seems.
I initially tried to run procmon (from sysinternals) to see if any new PROCESS START were being spawned after I unlock the account. Nothing suspicious comes up. After running procmon on my workstation and elevating to a UAC shell (conscent.exe) it seems like from the stack that ntdll.dll
and rpct4.dll
get called when you try to auth against AD (not sure).
Is there anyway to narrow down which process is causing an authentication request to our DC? It's always the same DC so we know it must be a server out in that site. I could try looking for the calls in wireshark, but I'm not sure that would narrow down which process is actually triggering it.
No services, drive mappings, or scheduled tasks are using that domain account either -- so it must be something that has the domain creds stored. There are no open RDP sessions with that domain account either on any server (we checked).
Further notes
Yes, "Success/Failure" Logon Audits are enabled on the DC in question -- no failure events are logged until the account is actually locked out.
Further digging shows that LSASS.exe
makes a KERBEROS
call to the DC in question once the account is unlocked. It's preceded (generally) by java which seems to be called by vpxd.exe
which is a vCenter process. BUT, when I look at the other "server2" were the account lockout can (also) happen from, I never see a call to lsass.exe
and only apache processes are being spawned. The only relation the two have are that SERVER2 is part of SERVER1's vSphere cluster (server1 being a vSphere OS).
Error on DC
So, it seems all I'm going to be told by AD is that it's a pre-auth Kerberos error. I checked and there were no tickets with klist
and did a flush anyways just in case. Still have no idea what is causing this kerberos error.
Index : 202500597
EntryType : FailureAudit
InstanceId : 4771
Message : Kerberos pre-authentication failed.
Account Information:
Security ID: S-1-5-21-3381590919-2827822839-3002869273-5848
Account Name: USER
Service Information:
Service Name: krbtgt/DOMAIN
Network Information:
Client Address: ::ffff:x.x.x.x
Client Port: 61450
Additional Information:
Ticket Options: 0x40810010
Failure Code: 0x18
Pre-Authentication Type: 2
Certificate Information:
Certificate Issuer Name:
Certificate Serial Number:
Certificate Thumbprint:
Certificate information is only provided if a certificate was used for pre-authentication.
Pre-authentication types, ticket options and failure codes are defined in RFC 4120.
If the ticket was malformed or damaged during transit and could not be decrypted, then many fields
in this event might not be present.
windows windows-server-2008 active-directory kerberos
We have a domain account that is being locked out via 1 of 2 servers. The built-in auditing only tells us that much (locked out from SERVER1, SERVER2).
The account gets locked out within 5 minutes, about 1 request per minute it seems.
I initially tried to run procmon (from sysinternals) to see if any new PROCESS START were being spawned after I unlock the account. Nothing suspicious comes up. After running procmon on my workstation and elevating to a UAC shell (conscent.exe) it seems like from the stack that ntdll.dll
and rpct4.dll
get called when you try to auth against AD (not sure).
Is there anyway to narrow down which process is causing an authentication request to our DC? It's always the same DC so we know it must be a server out in that site. I could try looking for the calls in wireshark, but I'm not sure that would narrow down which process is actually triggering it.
No services, drive mappings, or scheduled tasks are using that domain account either -- so it must be something that has the domain creds stored. There are no open RDP sessions with that domain account either on any server (we checked).
Further notes
Yes, "Success/Failure" Logon Audits are enabled on the DC in question -- no failure events are logged until the account is actually locked out.
Further digging shows that LSASS.exe
makes a KERBEROS
call to the DC in question once the account is unlocked. It's preceded (generally) by java which seems to be called by vpxd.exe
which is a vCenter process. BUT, when I look at the other "server2" were the account lockout can (also) happen from, I never see a call to lsass.exe
and only apache processes are being spawned. The only relation the two have are that SERVER2 is part of SERVER1's vSphere cluster (server1 being a vSphere OS).
Error on DC
So, it seems all I'm going to be told by AD is that it's a pre-auth Kerberos error. I checked and there were no tickets with klist
and did a flush anyways just in case. Still have no idea what is causing this kerberos error.
Index : 202500597
EntryType : FailureAudit
InstanceId : 4771
Message : Kerberos pre-authentication failed.
Account Information:
Security ID: S-1-5-21-3381590919-2827822839-3002869273-5848
Account Name: USER
Service Information:
Service Name: krbtgt/DOMAIN
Network Information:
Client Address: ::ffff:x.x.x.x
Client Port: 61450
Additional Information:
Ticket Options: 0x40810010
Failure Code: 0x18
Pre-Authentication Type: 2
Certificate Information:
Certificate Issuer Name:
Certificate Serial Number:
Certificate Thumbprint:
Certificate information is only provided if a certificate was used for pre-authentication.
Pre-authentication types, ticket options and failure codes are defined in RFC 4120.
If the ticket was malformed or damaged during transit and could not be decrypted, then many fields
in this event might not be present.
windows windows-server-2008 active-directory kerberos
windows windows-server-2008 active-directory kerberos
edited Aug 8 '13 at 21:42
Jaigene Kang
asked Aug 7 '13 at 23:00
Jaigene KangJaigene Kang
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Logon events record the process attempting logon. Enable failed logon auditing (Security Settings > Local Policies > Audit Policy > Audit Logon Events) in the Local Security Policy (secpol.msc) then look in the security event log for an event. You can also enable it via Group Policy, if that would be preferable.
There will be a Process Information section which records both the executable path and process ID.
Example:
Process Information:
Process ID: 0x2a4
Process Name: C:WindowsSystem32services.exe
It seems this was already in our GPOs. I can see when the object gets modified/unlocked in the security log, but I do not see bad attempts after that.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 17:10
@JaiKang, unless the servers in question are DCs, they would not be affected by the "Audit Failed Logons" setting in the Default Domain Controllers Policy. The failed logon event would be logged by the server attempting the authentication and would be set by the "Default Domain Policy" or another computer policy applying to that server.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 17:35
I actually figured it out. I had to set some settings in the "Advanced" section of Audit settings. I updated my original post with the events.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 20:37
@JaiKang, pre-authentication is just the process used to verify credentials prior to returning a token. There should still be a failure audit on the server attempting authentication which includes the process id.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 22:06
Can you elaborate on what "Advanced" settings you had to set?
– skinneejoe
Oct 15 '15 at 20:23
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I found this old question while researching a different issue, but for anyone with a similar issue:
The failure code 0x18 means that the account was already disabled or locked out when the client attempted to authenticate.
You need to find the same Event ID with failure code 0x24, which will identify the failed login attempts that caused the account to lock out. (This assumes it is occurring because of a bad cached password somewhere.)
You can then look at the Client Address on those events to see which system is passing the bad credentials. From there, you'd have to figure out if it's a service with an old password, a mapped network drive, etc.
There are a variety of failure codes, so you should look for anything besides 0x18 to determine what caused the account lockout if there are no events with 0x24 codes. I believe the only type of failure that will lead to a lockout is 0x24 (bad password), but I could be wrong.
Sorry for the Necro post and apologies for not inserting as a comment...I haven't earned my 50p yet. :-) Failure code 0x18 is a Pre-Auth failure and does not indicate a locked account. A locked account could trigger an 0x18 code as well, but I would expect a 0x12 instead for revoked credentials.
– Sjm
May 23 at 17:48
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This is from above notes. Looks like the initiator of this post stated on his last comment. Java calling vpxd.exe process.
Further notes
Yes, "Success/Failure" Logon Audits are enabled on the DC in question -- no failure events are logged until the account is actually locked out.
Further digging shows that LSASS.exe makes a KERBEROS call to the DC in question once the account is unlocked. It's preceded (generally) by java which seems to be called by vpxd.exe which is a vCenter process. BUT, when I look at the other "server2" were the account lockout can (also) happen from, I never see a call to lsass.exe and only apache processes are being spawned. The only relation the two have are that SERVER2 is part of SERVER1's vSphere cluster (server1 being a vSphere OS).
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I've spend a lot of time today and find out the root cause. I went wrong way - from captured info with network sniffer (kerberos error process id was 566 = lsass.exe). Let me summarize information.
Log on to problem PC, run powershell with elevated rights
Enable audit logon
auditpol /set /subcategory:"logon" /failure:enable
Check the source
Get-WinEvent -Logname 'Security' -FilterXPath "*[System[EventID=4625]]" -MaxEvents 2 | fl
If you see:
Process Information:
Caller Process ID: 0x140
Caller Process Name: C:WindowsSystem32services.exe
It means that you have some service running from problem account with old password
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Kerberos 0x18 is indeed a bad password attempt.
Kerberos 0x12 is account disabled, expired, locked out, or logon hours restriction.
https://www.ultimatewindowssecurity.com/securitylog/encyclopedia/event.aspx?eventID=4771
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Logon events record the process attempting logon. Enable failed logon auditing (Security Settings > Local Policies > Audit Policy > Audit Logon Events) in the Local Security Policy (secpol.msc) then look in the security event log for an event. You can also enable it via Group Policy, if that would be preferable.
There will be a Process Information section which records both the executable path and process ID.
Example:
Process Information:
Process ID: 0x2a4
Process Name: C:WindowsSystem32services.exe
It seems this was already in our GPOs. I can see when the object gets modified/unlocked in the security log, but I do not see bad attempts after that.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 17:10
@JaiKang, unless the servers in question are DCs, they would not be affected by the "Audit Failed Logons" setting in the Default Domain Controllers Policy. The failed logon event would be logged by the server attempting the authentication and would be set by the "Default Domain Policy" or another computer policy applying to that server.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 17:35
I actually figured it out. I had to set some settings in the "Advanced" section of Audit settings. I updated my original post with the events.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 20:37
@JaiKang, pre-authentication is just the process used to verify credentials prior to returning a token. There should still be a failure audit on the server attempting authentication which includes the process id.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 22:06
Can you elaborate on what "Advanced" settings you had to set?
– skinneejoe
Oct 15 '15 at 20:23
add a comment |
Logon events record the process attempting logon. Enable failed logon auditing (Security Settings > Local Policies > Audit Policy > Audit Logon Events) in the Local Security Policy (secpol.msc) then look in the security event log for an event. You can also enable it via Group Policy, if that would be preferable.
There will be a Process Information section which records both the executable path and process ID.
Example:
Process Information:
Process ID: 0x2a4
Process Name: C:WindowsSystem32services.exe
It seems this was already in our GPOs. I can see when the object gets modified/unlocked in the security log, but I do not see bad attempts after that.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 17:10
@JaiKang, unless the servers in question are DCs, they would not be affected by the "Audit Failed Logons" setting in the Default Domain Controllers Policy. The failed logon event would be logged by the server attempting the authentication and would be set by the "Default Domain Policy" or another computer policy applying to that server.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 17:35
I actually figured it out. I had to set some settings in the "Advanced" section of Audit settings. I updated my original post with the events.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 20:37
@JaiKang, pre-authentication is just the process used to verify credentials prior to returning a token. There should still be a failure audit on the server attempting authentication which includes the process id.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 22:06
Can you elaborate on what "Advanced" settings you had to set?
– skinneejoe
Oct 15 '15 at 20:23
add a comment |
Logon events record the process attempting logon. Enable failed logon auditing (Security Settings > Local Policies > Audit Policy > Audit Logon Events) in the Local Security Policy (secpol.msc) then look in the security event log for an event. You can also enable it via Group Policy, if that would be preferable.
There will be a Process Information section which records both the executable path and process ID.
Example:
Process Information:
Process ID: 0x2a4
Process Name: C:WindowsSystem32services.exe
Logon events record the process attempting logon. Enable failed logon auditing (Security Settings > Local Policies > Audit Policy > Audit Logon Events) in the Local Security Policy (secpol.msc) then look in the security event log for an event. You can also enable it via Group Policy, if that would be preferable.
There will be a Process Information section which records both the executable path and process ID.
Example:
Process Information:
Process ID: 0x2a4
Process Name: C:WindowsSystem32services.exe
answered Aug 8 '13 at 0:00
MitchMitch
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1,9521120
It seems this was already in our GPOs. I can see when the object gets modified/unlocked in the security log, but I do not see bad attempts after that.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 17:10
@JaiKang, unless the servers in question are DCs, they would not be affected by the "Audit Failed Logons" setting in the Default Domain Controllers Policy. The failed logon event would be logged by the server attempting the authentication and would be set by the "Default Domain Policy" or another computer policy applying to that server.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 17:35
I actually figured it out. I had to set some settings in the "Advanced" section of Audit settings. I updated my original post with the events.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 20:37
@JaiKang, pre-authentication is just the process used to verify credentials prior to returning a token. There should still be a failure audit on the server attempting authentication which includes the process id.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 22:06
Can you elaborate on what "Advanced" settings you had to set?
– skinneejoe
Oct 15 '15 at 20:23
add a comment |
It seems this was already in our GPOs. I can see when the object gets modified/unlocked in the security log, but I do not see bad attempts after that.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 17:10
@JaiKang, unless the servers in question are DCs, they would not be affected by the "Audit Failed Logons" setting in the Default Domain Controllers Policy. The failed logon event would be logged by the server attempting the authentication and would be set by the "Default Domain Policy" or another computer policy applying to that server.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 17:35
I actually figured it out. I had to set some settings in the "Advanced" section of Audit settings. I updated my original post with the events.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 20:37
@JaiKang, pre-authentication is just the process used to verify credentials prior to returning a token. There should still be a failure audit on the server attempting authentication which includes the process id.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 22:06
Can you elaborate on what "Advanced" settings you had to set?
– skinneejoe
Oct 15 '15 at 20:23
It seems this was already in our GPOs. I can see when the object gets modified/unlocked in the security log, but I do not see bad attempts after that.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 17:10
It seems this was already in our GPOs. I can see when the object gets modified/unlocked in the security log, but I do not see bad attempts after that.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 17:10
@JaiKang, unless the servers in question are DCs, they would not be affected by the "Audit Failed Logons" setting in the Default Domain Controllers Policy. The failed logon event would be logged by the server attempting the authentication and would be set by the "Default Domain Policy" or another computer policy applying to that server.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 17:35
@JaiKang, unless the servers in question are DCs, they would not be affected by the "Audit Failed Logons" setting in the Default Domain Controllers Policy. The failed logon event would be logged by the server attempting the authentication and would be set by the "Default Domain Policy" or another computer policy applying to that server.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 17:35
I actually figured it out. I had to set some settings in the "Advanced" section of Audit settings. I updated my original post with the events.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 20:37
I actually figured it out. I had to set some settings in the "Advanced" section of Audit settings. I updated my original post with the events.
– Jaigene Kang
Aug 8 '13 at 20:37
@JaiKang, pre-authentication is just the process used to verify credentials prior to returning a token. There should still be a failure audit on the server attempting authentication which includes the process id.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 22:06
@JaiKang, pre-authentication is just the process used to verify credentials prior to returning a token. There should still be a failure audit on the server attempting authentication which includes the process id.
– Mitch
Aug 8 '13 at 22:06
Can you elaborate on what "Advanced" settings you had to set?
– skinneejoe
Oct 15 '15 at 20:23
Can you elaborate on what "Advanced" settings you had to set?
– skinneejoe
Oct 15 '15 at 20:23
add a comment |
I found this old question while researching a different issue, but for anyone with a similar issue:
The failure code 0x18 means that the account was already disabled or locked out when the client attempted to authenticate.
You need to find the same Event ID with failure code 0x24, which will identify the failed login attempts that caused the account to lock out. (This assumes it is occurring because of a bad cached password somewhere.)
You can then look at the Client Address on those events to see which system is passing the bad credentials. From there, you'd have to figure out if it's a service with an old password, a mapped network drive, etc.
There are a variety of failure codes, so you should look for anything besides 0x18 to determine what caused the account lockout if there are no events with 0x24 codes. I believe the only type of failure that will lead to a lockout is 0x24 (bad password), but I could be wrong.
Sorry for the Necro post and apologies for not inserting as a comment...I haven't earned my 50p yet. :-) Failure code 0x18 is a Pre-Auth failure and does not indicate a locked account. A locked account could trigger an 0x18 code as well, but I would expect a 0x12 instead for revoked credentials.
– Sjm
May 23 at 17:48
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I found this old question while researching a different issue, but for anyone with a similar issue:
The failure code 0x18 means that the account was already disabled or locked out when the client attempted to authenticate.
You need to find the same Event ID with failure code 0x24, which will identify the failed login attempts that caused the account to lock out. (This assumes it is occurring because of a bad cached password somewhere.)
You can then look at the Client Address on those events to see which system is passing the bad credentials. From there, you'd have to figure out if it's a service with an old password, a mapped network drive, etc.
There are a variety of failure codes, so you should look for anything besides 0x18 to determine what caused the account lockout if there are no events with 0x24 codes. I believe the only type of failure that will lead to a lockout is 0x24 (bad password), but I could be wrong.
Sorry for the Necro post and apologies for not inserting as a comment...I haven't earned my 50p yet. :-) Failure code 0x18 is a Pre-Auth failure and does not indicate a locked account. A locked account could trigger an 0x18 code as well, but I would expect a 0x12 instead for revoked credentials.
– Sjm
May 23 at 17:48
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I found this old question while researching a different issue, but for anyone with a similar issue:
The failure code 0x18 means that the account was already disabled or locked out when the client attempted to authenticate.
You need to find the same Event ID with failure code 0x24, which will identify the failed login attempts that caused the account to lock out. (This assumes it is occurring because of a bad cached password somewhere.)
You can then look at the Client Address on those events to see which system is passing the bad credentials. From there, you'd have to figure out if it's a service with an old password, a mapped network drive, etc.
There are a variety of failure codes, so you should look for anything besides 0x18 to determine what caused the account lockout if there are no events with 0x24 codes. I believe the only type of failure that will lead to a lockout is 0x24 (bad password), but I could be wrong.
I found this old question while researching a different issue, but for anyone with a similar issue:
The failure code 0x18 means that the account was already disabled or locked out when the client attempted to authenticate.
You need to find the same Event ID with failure code 0x24, which will identify the failed login attempts that caused the account to lock out. (This assumes it is occurring because of a bad cached password somewhere.)
You can then look at the Client Address on those events to see which system is passing the bad credentials. From there, you'd have to figure out if it's a service with an old password, a mapped network drive, etc.
There are a variety of failure codes, so you should look for anything besides 0x18 to determine what caused the account lockout if there are no events with 0x24 codes. I believe the only type of failure that will lead to a lockout is 0x24 (bad password), but I could be wrong.
answered Mar 16 '18 at 18:40
DoubleDDoubleD
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Sorry for the Necro post and apologies for not inserting as a comment...I haven't earned my 50p yet. :-) Failure code 0x18 is a Pre-Auth failure and does not indicate a locked account. A locked account could trigger an 0x18 code as well, but I would expect a 0x12 instead for revoked credentials.
– Sjm
May 23 at 17:48
add a comment |
Sorry for the Necro post and apologies for not inserting as a comment...I haven't earned my 50p yet. :-) Failure code 0x18 is a Pre-Auth failure and does not indicate a locked account. A locked account could trigger an 0x18 code as well, but I would expect a 0x12 instead for revoked credentials.
– Sjm
May 23 at 17:48
Sorry for the Necro post and apologies for not inserting as a comment...I haven't earned my 50p yet. :-) Failure code 0x18 is a Pre-Auth failure and does not indicate a locked account. A locked account could trigger an 0x18 code as well, but I would expect a 0x12 instead for revoked credentials.
– Sjm
May 23 at 17:48
Sorry for the Necro post and apologies for not inserting as a comment...I haven't earned my 50p yet. :-) Failure code 0x18 is a Pre-Auth failure and does not indicate a locked account. A locked account could trigger an 0x18 code as well, but I would expect a 0x12 instead for revoked credentials.
– Sjm
May 23 at 17:48
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This is from above notes. Looks like the initiator of this post stated on his last comment. Java calling vpxd.exe process.
Further notes
Yes, "Success/Failure" Logon Audits are enabled on the DC in question -- no failure events are logged until the account is actually locked out.
Further digging shows that LSASS.exe makes a KERBEROS call to the DC in question once the account is unlocked. It's preceded (generally) by java which seems to be called by vpxd.exe which is a vCenter process. BUT, when I look at the other "server2" were the account lockout can (also) happen from, I never see a call to lsass.exe and only apache processes are being spawned. The only relation the two have are that SERVER2 is part of SERVER1's vSphere cluster (server1 being a vSphere OS).
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This is from above notes. Looks like the initiator of this post stated on his last comment. Java calling vpxd.exe process.
Further notes
Yes, "Success/Failure" Logon Audits are enabled on the DC in question -- no failure events are logged until the account is actually locked out.
Further digging shows that LSASS.exe makes a KERBEROS call to the DC in question once the account is unlocked. It's preceded (generally) by java which seems to be called by vpxd.exe which is a vCenter process. BUT, when I look at the other "server2" were the account lockout can (also) happen from, I never see a call to lsass.exe and only apache processes are being spawned. The only relation the two have are that SERVER2 is part of SERVER1's vSphere cluster (server1 being a vSphere OS).
add a comment |
This is from above notes. Looks like the initiator of this post stated on his last comment. Java calling vpxd.exe process.
Further notes
Yes, "Success/Failure" Logon Audits are enabled on the DC in question -- no failure events are logged until the account is actually locked out.
Further digging shows that LSASS.exe makes a KERBEROS call to the DC in question once the account is unlocked. It's preceded (generally) by java which seems to be called by vpxd.exe which is a vCenter process. BUT, when I look at the other "server2" were the account lockout can (also) happen from, I never see a call to lsass.exe and only apache processes are being spawned. The only relation the two have are that SERVER2 is part of SERVER1's vSphere cluster (server1 being a vSphere OS).
This is from above notes. Looks like the initiator of this post stated on his last comment. Java calling vpxd.exe process.
Further notes
Yes, "Success/Failure" Logon Audits are enabled on the DC in question -- no failure events are logged until the account is actually locked out.
Further digging shows that LSASS.exe makes a KERBEROS call to the DC in question once the account is unlocked. It's preceded (generally) by java which seems to be called by vpxd.exe which is a vCenter process. BUT, when I look at the other "server2" were the account lockout can (also) happen from, I never see a call to lsass.exe and only apache processes are being spawned. The only relation the two have are that SERVER2 is part of SERVER1's vSphere cluster (server1 being a vSphere OS).
answered May 13 '16 at 21:47
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I've spend a lot of time today and find out the root cause. I went wrong way - from captured info with network sniffer (kerberos error process id was 566 = lsass.exe). Let me summarize information.
Log on to problem PC, run powershell with elevated rights
Enable audit logon
auditpol /set /subcategory:"logon" /failure:enable
Check the source
Get-WinEvent -Logname 'Security' -FilterXPath "*[System[EventID=4625]]" -MaxEvents 2 | fl
If you see:
Process Information:
Caller Process ID: 0x140
Caller Process Name: C:WindowsSystem32services.exe
It means that you have some service running from problem account with old password
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I've spend a lot of time today and find out the root cause. I went wrong way - from captured info with network sniffer (kerberos error process id was 566 = lsass.exe). Let me summarize information.
Log on to problem PC, run powershell with elevated rights
Enable audit logon
auditpol /set /subcategory:"logon" /failure:enable
Check the source
Get-WinEvent -Logname 'Security' -FilterXPath "*[System[EventID=4625]]" -MaxEvents 2 | fl
If you see:
Process Information:
Caller Process ID: 0x140
Caller Process Name: C:WindowsSystem32services.exe
It means that you have some service running from problem account with old password
add a comment |
I've spend a lot of time today and find out the root cause. I went wrong way - from captured info with network sniffer (kerberos error process id was 566 = lsass.exe). Let me summarize information.
Log on to problem PC, run powershell with elevated rights
Enable audit logon
auditpol /set /subcategory:"logon" /failure:enable
Check the source
Get-WinEvent -Logname 'Security' -FilterXPath "*[System[EventID=4625]]" -MaxEvents 2 | fl
If you see:
Process Information:
Caller Process ID: 0x140
Caller Process Name: C:WindowsSystem32services.exe
It means that you have some service running from problem account with old password
I've spend a lot of time today and find out the root cause. I went wrong way - from captured info with network sniffer (kerberos error process id was 566 = lsass.exe). Let me summarize information.
Log on to problem PC, run powershell with elevated rights
Enable audit logon
auditpol /set /subcategory:"logon" /failure:enable
Check the source
Get-WinEvent -Logname 'Security' -FilterXPath "*[System[EventID=4625]]" -MaxEvents 2 | fl
If you see:
Process Information:
Caller Process ID: 0x140
Caller Process Name: C:WindowsSystem32services.exe
It means that you have some service running from problem account with old password
answered Mar 7 '17 at 18:26
AlexAlex
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Kerberos 0x18 is indeed a bad password attempt.
Kerberos 0x12 is account disabled, expired, locked out, or logon hours restriction.
https://www.ultimatewindowssecurity.com/securitylog/encyclopedia/event.aspx?eventID=4771
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Kerberos 0x18 is indeed a bad password attempt.
Kerberos 0x12 is account disabled, expired, locked out, or logon hours restriction.
https://www.ultimatewindowssecurity.com/securitylog/encyclopedia/event.aspx?eventID=4771
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Kerberos 0x18 is indeed a bad password attempt.
Kerberos 0x12 is account disabled, expired, locked out, or logon hours restriction.
https://www.ultimatewindowssecurity.com/securitylog/encyclopedia/event.aspx?eventID=4771
Kerberos 0x18 is indeed a bad password attempt.
Kerberos 0x12 is account disabled, expired, locked out, or logon hours restriction.
https://www.ultimatewindowssecurity.com/securitylog/encyclopedia/event.aspx?eventID=4771
edited Apr 9 '18 at 15:03
answered Apr 9 '18 at 14:35
Kirk LashbrookKirk Lashbrook
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