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Suppose a transgender male (born female) who's undergone bottom surgery and tattooing to make her genitalia look more masculine decided to convert to Orthodox Judaism.

Would such a person be required to undergo a Hatafas Dam Bris as part of their conversion process?

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  If there's no need for it Halakhically or medically, then doing so would probably be prohibited since it is forbidden to wound oneself. Though that might not apply while they are a non-jew.
  
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Suppose a transgender male (born female) who's undergone bottom surgery and tattooing to make her genitalia look more masculine decided to convert to Orthodox Judaism.

Would such a person be required to undergo a Hatafas Dam Bris as part of their conversion process?

conversion-to-judaism brit-milah

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edited May 23 at 17:48

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  If there's no need for it Halakhically or medically, then doing so would probably be prohibited since it is forbidden to wound oneself. Though that might not apply while they are a non-jew.
  
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Suppose a transgender male (born female) who's undergone bottom surgery and tattooing to make her genitalia look more masculine decided to convert to Orthodox Judaism.

Would such a person be required to undergo a Hatafas Dam Bris as part of their conversion process?

conversion-to-judaism brit-milah

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edited May 23 at 17:48

alicht

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asked May 23 at 13:19

user19194

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edited May 23 at 17:48

alicht

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user19194

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Here is an excerpt from Encyclopedia Halachit Refuit from Dr. Avraham Steinberg.

Translation (my own): A women who underwent surgery to appear like a man, even if they formed for her a male limb, there is no obligation to do a bris on this limb, even if it is formed from her natural clitoris.

In regards to a non-jewish woman that underwent gender reassignment surgery to become a man, it is not appropriate to accept them as a convert.

It appears that there is also no need to do hatafas dam bris, otherwise he would have mentioned it.

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  The responsa cited in note 85, saying that such a person should not be considered as a candidate for conversion (at all), can be found here: hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=43790&st=&pgnum=148
  
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Here is an excerpt from Encyclopedia Halachit Refuit from Dr. Avraham Steinberg.

Translation (my own): A women who underwent surgery to appear like a man, even if they formed for her a male limb, there is no obligation to do a bris on this limb, even if it is formed from her natural clitoris.

In regards to a non-jewish woman that underwent gender reassignment surgery to become a man, it is not appropriate to accept them as a convert.

It appears that there is also no need to do hatafas dam bris, otherwise he would have mentioned it.

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edited May 23 at 18:24

answered May 23 at 18:02

SilverSilver

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  The responsa cited in note 85, saying that such a person should not be considered as a candidate for conversion (at all), can be found here: hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=43790&st=&pgnum=148
  
  – IsraelReader
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Here is an excerpt from Encyclopedia Halachit Refuit from Dr. Avraham Steinberg.

Translation (my own): A women who underwent surgery to appear like a man, even if they formed for her a male limb, there is no obligation to do a bris on this limb, even if it is formed from her natural clitoris.

In regards to a non-jewish woman that underwent gender reassignment surgery to become a man, it is not appropriate to accept them as a convert.

It appears that there is also no need to do hatafas dam bris, otherwise he would have mentioned it.

share|improve this answer

edited May 23 at 18:24

answered May 23 at 18:02

SilverSilver

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  The responsa cited in note 85, saying that such a person should not be considered as a candidate for conversion (at all), can be found here: hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=43790&st=&pgnum=148
  
  – IsraelReader
  May 23 at 18:21
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Here is an excerpt from Encyclopedia Halachit Refuit from Dr. Avraham Steinberg.

Translation (my own): A women who underwent surgery to appear like a man, even if they formed for her a male limb, there is no obligation to do a bris on this limb, even if it is formed from her natural clitoris.

In regards to a non-jewish woman that underwent gender reassignment surgery to become a man, it is not appropriate to accept them as a convert.

It appears that there is also no need to do hatafas dam bris, otherwise he would have mentioned it.

share|improve this answer

edited May 23 at 18:24

answered May 23 at 18:02

SilverSilver

38717

share|improve this answer

edited May 23 at 18:24

answered May 23 at 18:02

SilverSilver

38717

answered May 23 at 18:02

SilverSilver

38717

answered May 23 at 18:02

SilverSilver

38717