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Does a transgender male convert require a Hatafas Dam Bris?


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Suppose a transgender male (born female) who's undergone bottom surgery and tattooing to make her genitalia look more masculine decided to convert to Orthodox Judaism.



Would such a person be required to undergo a Hatafas Dam Bris as part of their conversion process?










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  • If there's no need for it Halakhically or medically, then doing so would probably be prohibited since it is forbidden to wound oneself. Though that might not apply while they are a non-jew.

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Suppose a transgender male (born female) who's undergone bottom surgery and tattooing to make her genitalia look more masculine decided to convert to Orthodox Judaism.



Would such a person be required to undergo a Hatafas Dam Bris as part of their conversion process?










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  • If there's no need for it Halakhically or medically, then doing so would probably be prohibited since it is forbidden to wound oneself. Though that might not apply while they are a non-jew.

    – Double AA
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Suppose a transgender male (born female) who's undergone bottom surgery and tattooing to make her genitalia look more masculine decided to convert to Orthodox Judaism.



Would such a person be required to undergo a Hatafas Dam Bris as part of their conversion process?










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Suppose a transgender male (born female) who's undergone bottom surgery and tattooing to make her genitalia look more masculine decided to convert to Orthodox Judaism.



Would such a person be required to undergo a Hatafas Dam Bris as part of their conversion process?







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  • If there's no need for it Halakhically or medically, then doing so would probably be prohibited since it is forbidden to wound oneself. Though that might not apply while they are a non-jew.

    – Double AA
    May 23 at 14:19


















  • If there's no need for it Halakhically or medically, then doing so would probably be prohibited since it is forbidden to wound oneself. Though that might not apply while they are a non-jew.

    – Double AA
    May 23 at 14:19

















If there's no need for it Halakhically or medically, then doing so would probably be prohibited since it is forbidden to wound oneself. Though that might not apply while they are a non-jew.

– Double AA
May 23 at 14:19






If there's no need for it Halakhically or medically, then doing so would probably be prohibited since it is forbidden to wound oneself. Though that might not apply while they are a non-jew.

– Double AA
May 23 at 14:19











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Translation (my own): A women who underwent surgery to appear like a man, even if they formed for her a male limb, there is no obligation to do a bris on this limb, even if it is formed from her natural clitoris.



In regards to a non-jewish woman that underwent gender reassignment surgery to become a man, it is not appropriate to accept them as a convert.




It appears that there is also no need to do hatafas dam bris, otherwise he would have mentioned it.






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    The responsa cited in note 85, saying that such a person should not be considered as a candidate for conversion (at all), can be found here: hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=43790&st=&pgnum=148

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Here is an excerpt from Encyclopedia Halachit Refuit from Dr. Avraham Steinberg.



EHR




Translation (my own): A women who underwent surgery to appear like a man, even if they formed for her a male limb, there is no obligation to do a bris on this limb, even if it is formed from her natural clitoris.



In regards to a non-jewish woman that underwent gender reassignment surgery to become a man, it is not appropriate to accept them as a convert.




It appears that there is also no need to do hatafas dam bris, otherwise he would have mentioned it.






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    The responsa cited in note 85, saying that such a person should not be considered as a candidate for conversion (at all), can be found here: hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=43790&st=&pgnum=148

    – IsraelReader
    May 23 at 18:21
















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Here is an excerpt from Encyclopedia Halachit Refuit from Dr. Avraham Steinberg.



EHR




Translation (my own): A women who underwent surgery to appear like a man, even if they formed for her a male limb, there is no obligation to do a bris on this limb, even if it is formed from her natural clitoris.



In regards to a non-jewish woman that underwent gender reassignment surgery to become a man, it is not appropriate to accept them as a convert.




It appears that there is also no need to do hatafas dam bris, otherwise he would have mentioned it.






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    The responsa cited in note 85, saying that such a person should not be considered as a candidate for conversion (at all), can be found here: hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=43790&st=&pgnum=148

    – IsraelReader
    May 23 at 18:21














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8







Here is an excerpt from Encyclopedia Halachit Refuit from Dr. Avraham Steinberg.



EHR




Translation (my own): A women who underwent surgery to appear like a man, even if they formed for her a male limb, there is no obligation to do a bris on this limb, even if it is formed from her natural clitoris.



In regards to a non-jewish woman that underwent gender reassignment surgery to become a man, it is not appropriate to accept them as a convert.




It appears that there is also no need to do hatafas dam bris, otherwise he would have mentioned it.






share|improve this answer















Here is an excerpt from Encyclopedia Halachit Refuit from Dr. Avraham Steinberg.



EHR




Translation (my own): A women who underwent surgery to appear like a man, even if they formed for her a male limb, there is no obligation to do a bris on this limb, even if it is formed from her natural clitoris.



In regards to a non-jewish woman that underwent gender reassignment surgery to become a man, it is not appropriate to accept them as a convert.




It appears that there is also no need to do hatafas dam bris, otherwise he would have mentioned it.







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    The responsa cited in note 85, saying that such a person should not be considered as a candidate for conversion (at all), can be found here: hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=43790&st=&pgnum=148

    – IsraelReader
    May 23 at 18:21













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    The responsa cited in note 85, saying that such a person should not be considered as a candidate for conversion (at all), can be found here: hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=43790&st=&pgnum=148

    – IsraelReader
    May 23 at 18:21








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The responsa cited in note 85, saying that such a person should not be considered as a candidate for conversion (at all), can be found here: hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=43790&st=&pgnum=148

– IsraelReader
May 23 at 18:21






The responsa cited in note 85, saying that such a person should not be considered as a candidate for conversion (at all), can be found here: hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=43790&st=&pgnum=148

– IsraelReader
May 23 at 18:21




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