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Can Infinity Stones be retrieved more than once?
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In Avengers: Endgame the Avengers try to pull the
time heist -- basically trying to retrieve Infinity Stones from the past.
When Iron Man is not able to retrieve the Tesseract from the battle in New York in 2012 (as Loki takes it and disappears) -- Iron Man and Captain America travel further back in time to year 1970 to retrieve the tesseract from S.H.I.E.L.D. base.
If, for a second let us assume that Iron Man in fact got the Tesseract in New York in 2012 and just took a detour to 1970 -- let's say to collect some Pym particles (just for fun) -- would he be able to get the Tesseract from the S.H.I.E.L.D. base and finally end up with two Tesseracts -- and repeating the same process with n Tesseracts with n -> Inf ?
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In Avengers: Endgame the Avengers try to pull the
time heist -- basically trying to retrieve Infinity Stones from the past.
When Iron Man is not able to retrieve the Tesseract from the battle in New York in 2012 (as Loki takes it and disappears) -- Iron Man and Captain America travel further back in time to year 1970 to retrieve the tesseract from S.H.I.E.L.D. base.
If, for a second let us assume that Iron Man in fact got the Tesseract in New York in 2012 and just took a detour to 1970 -- let's say to collect some Pym particles (just for fun) -- would he be able to get the Tesseract from the S.H.I.E.L.D. base and finally end up with two Tesseracts -- and repeating the same process with n Tesseracts with n -> Inf ?
marvel-cinematic-universe avengers-endgame
asked May 1 at 14:13
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I like this question !!
– Nigel Fds
May 2 at 0:14
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Of course! Why do you think they're called Infinity Stones?
– BJ Myers
May 2 at 3:15
add a comment |
In Avengers: Endgame the Avengers try to pull the
time heist -- basically trying to retrieve Infinity Stones from the past.
When Iron Man is not able to retrieve the Tesseract from the battle in New York in 2012 (as Loki takes it and disappears) -- Iron Man and Captain America travel further back in time to year 1970 to retrieve the tesseract from S.H.I.E.L.D. base.
If, for a second let us assume that Iron Man in fact got the Tesseract in New York in 2012 and just took a detour to 1970 -- let's say to collect some Pym particles (just for fun) -- would he be able to get the Tesseract from the S.H.I.E.L.D. base and finally end up with two Tesseracts -- and repeating the same process with n Tesseracts with n -> Inf ?
marvel-cinematic-universe avengers-endgame
asked May 1 at 14:13
naivenaive
653413
In Avengers: Endgame the Avengers try to pull the
time heist -- basically trying to retrieve Infinity Stones from the past.
When Iron Man is not able to retrieve the Tesseract from the battle in New York in 2012 (as Loki takes it and disappears) -- Iron Man and Captain America travel further back in time to year 1970 to retrieve the tesseract from S.H.I.E.L.D. base.
If, for a second let us assume that Iron Man in fact got the Tesseract in New York in 2012 and just took a detour to 1970 -- let's say to collect some Pym particles (just for fun) -- would he be able to get the Tesseract from the S.H.I.E.L.D. base and finally end up with two Tesseracts -- and repeating the same process with n Tesseracts with n -> Inf ?
marvel-cinematic-universe avengers-endgame
marvel-cinematic-universe avengers-endgame
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naivenaive
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edited May 1 at 17:43
naive
asked May 1 at 14:13
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asked May 1 at 14:13
naivenaive
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asked May 1 at 14:13
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I like this question !!
– Nigel Fds
May 2 at 0:14
1
Of course! Why do you think they're called Infinity Stones?
– BJ Myers
May 2 at 3:15
add a comment |
1
I like this question !!
– Nigel Fds
May 2 at 0:14
1
Of course! Why do you think they're called Infinity Stones?
– BJ Myers
May 2 at 3:15
1
1
I like this question !!
– Nigel Fds
May 2 at 0:14
I like this question !!
– Nigel Fds
May 2 at 0:14
1
1
Of course! Why do you think they're called Infinity Stones?
– BJ Myers
May 2 at 3:15
Of course! Why do you think they're called Infinity Stones?
– BJ Myers
May 2 at 3:15
add a comment |
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There is some precedent in the comics for this not working.
In the comics, the alternate reality rules are taken to the extreme, with alternate timelines constantly branching off from each other (no meddling time-travelers required), resulting in countless alternate realities. In many stories, sufficient magic or technology allows people to travel from one reality to another. And in these stories it's been established that the Infinity Stones don't work outside their home reality - that is, if you bring an Infinity Stone to a different timeline, it loses its power and becomes nothing more than a pretty gem.
Does the same rule apply in movie continuity? Who knows? But if it does, then we could surmise that if you go back and "steal" a Tesseract, then bring it back further in time and get another Tesseract, your second trip has now split you off into a separate timeline - which would mean that first tesseract is no longer in its own reality, and is therefore no longer functional. (Note that this isn't the case for the Tesseract Loki stole, since that one remained in its own timeline). In other words, you can never have more than one of each "working" Infinity Stone in any given reality.
answered May 1 at 20:12
Dan StaleyDan Staley
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Magic or Technology, you say >.> (just the obligatory Arthur C. Clarke reference)
– Ifusaso
May 1 at 22:57
7
Wouldn't that rule be shown not to be in effect in the MCU by both of the snaps in Endgame?
– Jasper
May 1 at 23:10
1
@Jasper It all depends on the (unexplained) details of when/how alternate realities are spawned. Perhaps taking something back in time spawns a new reality, but taking something forward in time doesn't (since you can't cause the grandfather paradox or anything by going forward).
– Dan Staley
May 1 at 23:32
I think reality != timeline in the comics or the movies
– GordonBennett
May 2 at 7:22
@DanStaley, In the movie the Stones are taken from other timelines to the Original Timeline in 2023. Based on your logic the reverse-snap of Hulk shouldn't have worked. So I don't think that logic is followed in MCU.
– MovieMe
May 7 at 14:35
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Based on the rules established by the movie, this seems perfectly possible to do. Just unnecessary as only one is needed to undo the snap.
answered May 1 at 14:27
IronSeanIronSean
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7
Also they needed one of each. So they couldn't grab six tesseracts and accomplish the same thing.
– DeeV
May 1 at 14:58
add a comment |
This is a plot hole that can be exploited to the very extreme. I'm sure the Russo bros don't want you to think too much about time travel and they probably won't use the same time travel plot in the future MCU movies.
Also, whoever wrote the comics must have thought of this possibility --- of someone stocking up the infinity stones using time travel (I would have open a company like Amazon and just sell infinity stones to whoever in need in any timeline)
add a comment |
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active
oldest
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
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active
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active
oldest
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There is some precedent in the comics for this not working.
In the comics, the alternate reality rules are taken to the extreme, with alternate timelines constantly branching off from each other (no meddling time-travelers required), resulting in countless alternate realities. In many stories, sufficient magic or technology allows people to travel from one reality to another. And in these stories it's been established that the Infinity Stones don't work outside their home reality - that is, if you bring an Infinity Stone to a different timeline, it loses its power and becomes nothing more than a pretty gem.
Does the same rule apply in movie continuity? Who knows? But if it does, then we could surmise that if you go back and "steal" a Tesseract, then bring it back further in time and get another Tesseract, your second trip has now split you off into a separate timeline - which would mean that first tesseract is no longer in its own reality, and is therefore no longer functional. (Note that this isn't the case for the Tesseract Loki stole, since that one remained in its own timeline). In other words, you can never have more than one of each "working" Infinity Stone in any given reality.
answered May 1 at 20:12
Dan StaleyDan Staley
22415
Magic or Technology, you say >.> (just the obligatory Arthur C. Clarke reference)
– Ifusaso
May 1 at 22:57
7
Wouldn't that rule be shown not to be in effect in the MCU by both of the snaps in Endgame?
– Jasper
May 1 at 23:10
1
@Jasper It all depends on the (unexplained) details of when/how alternate realities are spawned. Perhaps taking something back in time spawns a new reality, but taking something forward in time doesn't (since you can't cause the grandfather paradox or anything by going forward).
– Dan Staley
May 1 at 23:32
I think reality != timeline in the comics or the movies
– GordonBennett
May 2 at 7:22
@DanStaley, In the movie the Stones are taken from other timelines to the Original Timeline in 2023. Based on your logic the reverse-snap of Hulk shouldn't have worked. So I don't think that logic is followed in MCU.
– MovieMe
May 7 at 14:35
add a comment |
There is some precedent in the comics for this not working.
In the comics, the alternate reality rules are taken to the extreme, with alternate timelines constantly branching off from each other (no meddling time-travelers required), resulting in countless alternate realities. In many stories, sufficient magic or technology allows people to travel from one reality to another. And in these stories it's been established that the Infinity Stones don't work outside their home reality - that is, if you bring an Infinity Stone to a different timeline, it loses its power and becomes nothing more than a pretty gem.
Does the same rule apply in movie continuity? Who knows? But if it does, then we could surmise that if you go back and "steal" a Tesseract, then bring it back further in time and get another Tesseract, your second trip has now split you off into a separate timeline - which would mean that first tesseract is no longer in its own reality, and is therefore no longer functional. (Note that this isn't the case for the Tesseract Loki stole, since that one remained in its own timeline). In other words, you can never have more than one of each "working" Infinity Stone in any given reality.
answered May 1 at 20:12
Dan StaleyDan Staley
22415
Magic or Technology, you say >.> (just the obligatory Arthur C. Clarke reference)
– Ifusaso
May 1 at 22:57
7
Wouldn't that rule be shown not to be in effect in the MCU by both of the snaps in Endgame?
– Jasper
May 1 at 23:10
1
@Jasper It all depends on the (unexplained) details of when/how alternate realities are spawned. Perhaps taking something back in time spawns a new reality, but taking something forward in time doesn't (since you can't cause the grandfather paradox or anything by going forward).
– Dan Staley
May 1 at 23:32
I think reality != timeline in the comics or the movies
– GordonBennett
May 2 at 7:22
@DanStaley, In the movie the Stones are taken from other timelines to the Original Timeline in 2023. Based on your logic the reverse-snap of Hulk shouldn't have worked. So I don't think that logic is followed in MCU.
– MovieMe
May 7 at 14:35
add a comment |
There is some precedent in the comics for this not working.
In the comics, the alternate reality rules are taken to the extreme, with alternate timelines constantly branching off from each other (no meddling time-travelers required), resulting in countless alternate realities. In many stories, sufficient magic or technology allows people to travel from one reality to another. And in these stories it's been established that the Infinity Stones don't work outside their home reality - that is, if you bring an Infinity Stone to a different timeline, it loses its power and becomes nothing more than a pretty gem.
Does the same rule apply in movie continuity? Who knows? But if it does, then we could surmise that if you go back and "steal" a Tesseract, then bring it back further in time and get another Tesseract, your second trip has now split you off into a separate timeline - which would mean that first tesseract is no longer in its own reality, and is therefore no longer functional. (Note that this isn't the case for the Tesseract Loki stole, since that one remained in its own timeline). In other words, you can never have more than one of each "working" Infinity Stone in any given reality.
answered May 1 at 20:12
Dan StaleyDan Staley
22415
There is some precedent in the comics for this not working.
In the comics, the alternate reality rules are taken to the extreme, with alternate timelines constantly branching off from each other (no meddling time-travelers required), resulting in countless alternate realities. In many stories, sufficient magic or technology allows people to travel from one reality to another. And in these stories it's been established that the Infinity Stones don't work outside their home reality - that is, if you bring an Infinity Stone to a different timeline, it loses its power and becomes nothing more than a pretty gem.
Does the same rule apply in movie continuity? Who knows? But if it does, then we could surmise that if you go back and "steal" a Tesseract, then bring it back further in time and get another Tesseract, your second trip has now split you off into a separate timeline - which would mean that first tesseract is no longer in its own reality, and is therefore no longer functional. (Note that this isn't the case for the Tesseract Loki stole, since that one remained in its own timeline). In other words, you can never have more than one of each "working" Infinity Stone in any given reality.
answered May 1 at 20:12
Dan StaleyDan Staley
22415
edited May 1 at 20:17
answered May 1 at 20:12
Dan StaleyDan Staley
22415
answered May 1 at 20:12
Dan StaleyDan Staley
22415
answered May 1 at 20:12
Dan StaleyDan Staley
22415
22415
Magic or Technology, you say >.> (just the obligatory Arthur C. Clarke reference)
– Ifusaso
May 1 at 22:57
7
Wouldn't that rule be shown not to be in effect in the MCU by both of the snaps in Endgame?
– Jasper
May 1 at 23:10
1
@Jasper It all depends on the (unexplained) details of when/how alternate realities are spawned. Perhaps taking something back in time spawns a new reality, but taking something forward in time doesn't (since you can't cause the grandfather paradox or anything by going forward).
– Dan Staley
May 1 at 23:32
I think reality != timeline in the comics or the movies
– GordonBennett
May 2 at 7:22
@DanStaley, In the movie the Stones are taken from other timelines to the Original Timeline in 2023. Based on your logic the reverse-snap of Hulk shouldn't have worked. So I don't think that logic is followed in MCU.
– MovieMe
May 7 at 14:35
add a comment |
Magic or Technology, you say >.> (just the obligatory Arthur C. Clarke reference)
– Ifusaso
May 1 at 22:57
7
Wouldn't that rule be shown not to be in effect in the MCU by both of the snaps in Endgame?
– Jasper
May 1 at 23:10
1
@Jasper It all depends on the (unexplained) details of when/how alternate realities are spawned. Perhaps taking something back in time spawns a new reality, but taking something forward in time doesn't (since you can't cause the grandfather paradox or anything by going forward).
– Dan Staley
May 1 at 23:32
I think reality != timeline in the comics or the movies
– GordonBennett
May 2 at 7:22
@DanStaley, In the movie the Stones are taken from other timelines to the Original Timeline in 2023. Based on your logic the reverse-snap of Hulk shouldn't have worked. So I don't think that logic is followed in MCU.
– MovieMe
May 7 at 14:35
Magic or Technology, you say >.> (just the obligatory Arthur C. Clarke reference)
– Ifusaso
May 1 at 22:57
Magic or Technology, you say >.> (just the obligatory Arthur C. Clarke reference)
– Ifusaso
May 1 at 22:57
7
7
Wouldn't that rule be shown not to be in effect in the MCU by both of the snaps in Endgame?
– Jasper
May 1 at 23:10
Wouldn't that rule be shown not to be in effect in the MCU by both of the snaps in Endgame?
– Jasper
May 1 at 23:10
1
1
@Jasper It all depends on the (unexplained) details of when/how alternate realities are spawned. Perhaps taking something back in time spawns a new reality, but taking something forward in time doesn't (since you can't cause the grandfather paradox or anything by going forward).
– Dan Staley
May 1 at 23:32
@Jasper It all depends on the (unexplained) details of when/how alternate realities are spawned. Perhaps taking something back in time spawns a new reality, but taking something forward in time doesn't (since you can't cause the grandfather paradox or anything by going forward).
– Dan Staley
May 1 at 23:32
I think reality != timeline in the comics or the movies
– GordonBennett
May 2 at 7:22
I think reality != timeline in the comics or the movies
– GordonBennett
May 2 at 7:22
@DanStaley, In the movie the Stones are taken from other timelines to the Original Timeline in 2023. Based on your logic the reverse-snap of Hulk shouldn't have worked. So I don't think that logic is followed in MCU.
– MovieMe
May 7 at 14:35
@DanStaley, In the movie the Stones are taken from other timelines to the Original Timeline in 2023. Based on your logic the reverse-snap of Hulk shouldn't have worked. So I don't think that logic is followed in MCU.
– MovieMe
May 7 at 14:35
add a comment |
Based on the rules established by the movie, this seems perfectly possible to do. Just unnecessary as only one is needed to undo the snap.
answered May 1 at 14:27
IronSeanIronSean
1,069110
7
Also they needed one of each. So they couldn't grab six tesseracts and accomplish the same thing.
– DeeV
May 1 at 14:58
add a comment |
Based on the rules established by the movie, this seems perfectly possible to do. Just unnecessary as only one is needed to undo the snap.
answered May 1 at 14:27
IronSeanIronSean
1,069110
7
Also they needed one of each. So they couldn't grab six tesseracts and accomplish the same thing.
– DeeV
May 1 at 14:58
add a comment |
Based on the rules established by the movie, this seems perfectly possible to do. Just unnecessary as only one is needed to undo the snap.
answered May 1 at 14:27
IronSeanIronSean
1,069110
Based on the rules established by the movie, this seems perfectly possible to do. Just unnecessary as only one is needed to undo the snap.
answered May 1 at 14:27
IronSeanIronSean
1,069110
answered May 1 at 14:27
IronSeanIronSean
1,069110
answered May 1 at 14:27
IronSeanIronSean
1,069110
answered May 1 at 14:27
IronSeanIronSean
1,069110
1,069110
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Also they needed one of each. So they couldn't grab six tesseracts and accomplish the same thing.
– DeeV
May 1 at 14:58
add a comment |
7
Also they needed one of each. So they couldn't grab six tesseracts and accomplish the same thing.
– DeeV
May 1 at 14:58
7
7
Also they needed one of each. So they couldn't grab six tesseracts and accomplish the same thing.
– DeeV
May 1 at 14:58
Also they needed one of each. So they couldn't grab six tesseracts and accomplish the same thing.
– DeeV
May 1 at 14:58
add a comment |
This is a plot hole that can be exploited to the very extreme. I'm sure the Russo bros don't want you to think too much about time travel and they probably won't use the same time travel plot in the future MCU movies.
Also, whoever wrote the comics must have thought of this possibility --- of someone stocking up the infinity stones using time travel (I would have open a company like Amazon and just sell infinity stones to whoever in need in any timeline)
add a comment |
This is a plot hole that can be exploited to the very extreme. I'm sure the Russo bros don't want you to think too much about time travel and they probably won't use the same time travel plot in the future MCU movies.
Also, whoever wrote the comics must have thought of this possibility --- of someone stocking up the infinity stones using time travel (I would have open a company like Amazon and just sell infinity stones to whoever in need in any timeline)
add a comment |
This is a plot hole that can be exploited to the very extreme. I'm sure the Russo bros don't want you to think too much about time travel and they probably won't use the same time travel plot in the future MCU movies.
Also, whoever wrote the comics must have thought of this possibility --- of someone stocking up the infinity stones using time travel (I would have open a company like Amazon and just sell infinity stones to whoever in need in any timeline)
This is a plot hole that can be exploited to the very extreme. I'm sure the Russo bros don't want you to think too much about time travel and they probably won't use the same time travel plot in the future MCU movies.
Also, whoever wrote the comics must have thought of this possibility --- of someone stocking up the infinity stones using time travel (I would have open a company like Amazon and just sell infinity stones to whoever in need in any timeline)
answered May 6 at 2:26
user73716
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I like this question !!
– Nigel Fds
May 2 at 0:14
1
Of course! Why do you think they're called Infinity Stones?
– BJ Myers
May 2 at 3:15