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I have asked one grammarian about this and she ended up being unsure of her answer.
Question: is there a possibility that a noun clause is used in a plural manner? For instance:
- Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME.
- WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose.
Should the word "scare" be "scares" in the examples?
Should "are" be "is" then?
grammar verb-agreement noun-phrases
asked Apr 27 at 19:31
Fadli SheikhFadli Sheikh
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add a comment |
I have asked one grammarian about this and she ended up being unsure of her answer.
Question: is there a possibility that a noun clause is used in a plural manner? For instance:
- Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME.
- WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose.
Should the word "scare" be "scares" in the examples?
Should "are" be "is" then?
grammar verb-agreement noun-phrases
asked Apr 27 at 19:31
Fadli SheikhFadli Sheikh
273
For plural I would prefer Those which scare me are .... Because "what" is inherently singular.
– aparente001
Apr 28 at 5:57
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I have asked one grammarian about this and she ended up being unsure of her answer.
Question: is there a possibility that a noun clause is used in a plural manner? For instance:
- Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME.
- WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose.
Should the word "scare" be "scares" in the examples?
Should "are" be "is" then?
grammar verb-agreement noun-phrases
asked Apr 27 at 19:31
Fadli SheikhFadli Sheikh
273
I have asked one grammarian about this and she ended up being unsure of her answer.
Question: is there a possibility that a noun clause is used in a plural manner? For instance:
- Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME.
- WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose.
Should the word "scare" be "scares" in the examples?
Should "are" be "is" then?
grammar verb-agreement noun-phrases
grammar verb-agreement noun-phrases
asked Apr 27 at 19:31
Fadli SheikhFadli Sheikh
273
asked Apr 27 at 19:31
Fadli SheikhFadli Sheikh
273
asked Apr 27 at 19:31
Fadli SheikhFadli Sheikh
273
asked Apr 27 at 19:31
Fadli SheikhFadli Sheikh
273
asked Apr 27 at 19:31
Fadli SheikhFadli Sheikh
273
273
For plural I would prefer Those which scare me are .... Because "what" is inherently singular.
– aparente001
Apr 28 at 5:57
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For plural I would prefer Those which scare me are .... Because "what" is inherently singular.
– aparente001
Apr 28 at 5:57
For plural I would prefer Those which scare me are .... Because "what" is inherently singular.
– aparente001
Apr 28 at 5:57
For plural I would prefer Those which scare me are .... Because "what" is inherently singular.
– aparente001
Apr 28 at 5:57
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Interesting question :)
I'd say this is an example of a fused relative (see e.g. CaGEL* p 1073); that is, what scares me is not a clause at all, but a noun phrase, where what is a fusion between the head function and the relativised element of a postmodifying relative clause. In this case it could be paraphrased either as that which scares me where that is the head, and which is the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scares me, or as the things which scare me, where the determiner the, the head things and the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scare me have fused.
In answer to your question, then, it could be what scare me are her eyes and nose as well as what scares me is her eyes and nose.
answered Apr 27 at 21:18
HannahHannah
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Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.
– John Lawler
Apr 27 at 21:48
1
@JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:59
1
Well said, Hannah. +1
– BillJ
Apr 28 at 7:15
@BillJ Thank you. Means a lot coming from you :)
– Hannah
Apr 28 at 7:20
add a comment |
It's right as you had it: 'scare' and 'are'. 'Eyes and nose' are three things and require plural verbs. 'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms.
answered Apr 27 at 21:08
Philip WoodPhilip Wood
4556
The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:23
(a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:31
Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:38
1
'what' ISN'T singular: 'what' can refer to either singular or plural.In your sentence you can replace "what" by "the things that". I'd like to apologise for an unintentionally patronising tone, by the way.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:48
1
@Hannah- 'what' asks a question, and does not presume to know the quantity beforehand. Although the answer may be singular or plural, we can see by the agreement that it is usually used in a singular way, and we do not ask questions like "*what are in the fridge", "*what fall from the sky", "*what are on TV tonight", even when we expect a plural answer.
– AmI
Apr 28 at 4:01
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Interesting question :)
I'd say this is an example of a fused relative (see e.g. CaGEL* p 1073); that is, what scares me is not a clause at all, but a noun phrase, where what is a fusion between the head function and the relativised element of a postmodifying relative clause. In this case it could be paraphrased either as that which scares me where that is the head, and which is the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scares me, or as the things which scare me, where the determiner the, the head things and the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scare me have fused.
In answer to your question, then, it could be what scare me are her eyes and nose as well as what scares me is her eyes and nose.
answered Apr 27 at 21:18
HannahHannah
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Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.
– John Lawler
Apr 27 at 21:48
1
@JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:59
1
Well said, Hannah. +1
– BillJ
Apr 28 at 7:15
@BillJ Thank you. Means a lot coming from you :)
– Hannah
Apr 28 at 7:20
add a comment |
Interesting question :)
I'd say this is an example of a fused relative (see e.g. CaGEL* p 1073); that is, what scares me is not a clause at all, but a noun phrase, where what is a fusion between the head function and the relativised element of a postmodifying relative clause. In this case it could be paraphrased either as that which scares me where that is the head, and which is the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scares me, or as the things which scare me, where the determiner the, the head things and the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scare me have fused.
In answer to your question, then, it could be what scare me are her eyes and nose as well as what scares me is her eyes and nose.
answered Apr 27 at 21:18
HannahHannah
348210
3
Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.
– John Lawler
Apr 27 at 21:48
1
@JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:59
1
Well said, Hannah. +1
– BillJ
Apr 28 at 7:15
@BillJ Thank you. Means a lot coming from you :)
– Hannah
Apr 28 at 7:20
add a comment |
Interesting question :)
I'd say this is an example of a fused relative (see e.g. CaGEL* p 1073); that is, what scares me is not a clause at all, but a noun phrase, where what is a fusion between the head function and the relativised element of a postmodifying relative clause. In this case it could be paraphrased either as that which scares me where that is the head, and which is the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scares me, or as the things which scare me, where the determiner the, the head things and the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scare me have fused.
In answer to your question, then, it could be what scare me are her eyes and nose as well as what scares me is her eyes and nose.
answered Apr 27 at 21:18
HannahHannah
348210
Interesting question :)
I'd say this is an example of a fused relative (see e.g. CaGEL* p 1073); that is, what scares me is not a clause at all, but a noun phrase, where what is a fusion between the head function and the relativised element of a postmodifying relative clause. In this case it could be paraphrased either as that which scares me where that is the head, and which is the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scares me, or as the things which scare me, where the determiner the, the head things and the relativised subject of the postmodifying relative clause which scare me have fused.
In answer to your question, then, it could be what scare me are her eyes and nose as well as what scares me is her eyes and nose.
answered Apr 27 at 21:18
HannahHannah
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answered Apr 27 at 21:18
HannahHannah
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HannahHannah
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Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.
– John Lawler
Apr 27 at 21:48
1
@JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:59
1
Well said, Hannah. +1
– BillJ
Apr 28 at 7:15
@BillJ Thank you. Means a lot coming from you :)
– Hannah
Apr 28 at 7:20
add a comment |
3
Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.
– John Lawler
Apr 27 at 21:48
1
@JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:59
1
Well said, Hannah. +1
– BillJ
Apr 28 at 7:15
@BillJ Thank you. Means a lot coming from you :)
– Hannah
Apr 28 at 7:20
3
3
Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.
– John Lawler
Apr 27 at 21:48
Yeah, it's short for the thing that scares me, or in this case, it could just as easily be the things that scare me. Since this is a commutable verb phrase, Her eyes and nose are what scare(s) me is just as good. And either singular or plural will do for scare(s), since what can mark either number. It depends, in other words, on what you mean.
– John Lawler
Apr 27 at 21:48
1
1
@JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:59
@JohnLawler Thank you – that's what I was uncertain about. I'll edit my answer to make it clearer :)
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:59
1
1
Well said, Hannah. +1
– BillJ
Apr 28 at 7:15
Well said, Hannah. +1
– BillJ
Apr 28 at 7:15
@BillJ Thank you. Means a lot coming from you :)
– Hannah
Apr 28 at 7:20
@BillJ Thank you. Means a lot coming from you :)
– Hannah
Apr 28 at 7:20
add a comment |
It's right as you had it: 'scare' and 'are'. 'Eyes and nose' are three things and require plural verbs. 'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms.
answered Apr 27 at 21:08
Philip WoodPhilip Wood
4556
The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:23
(a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:31
Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:38
1
'what' ISN'T singular: 'what' can refer to either singular or plural.In your sentence you can replace "what" by "the things that". I'd like to apologise for an unintentionally patronising tone, by the way.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:48
1
@Hannah- 'what' asks a question, and does not presume to know the quantity beforehand. Although the answer may be singular or plural, we can see by the agreement that it is usually used in a singular way, and we do not ask questions like "*what are in the fridge", "*what fall from the sky", "*what are on TV tonight", even when we expect a plural answer.
– AmI
Apr 28 at 4:01
|
show 4 more comments
It's right as you had it: 'scare' and 'are'. 'Eyes and nose' are three things and require plural verbs. 'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms.
answered Apr 27 at 21:08
Philip WoodPhilip Wood
4556
The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:23
(a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:31
Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:38
1
'what' ISN'T singular: 'what' can refer to either singular or plural.In your sentence you can replace "what" by "the things that". I'd like to apologise for an unintentionally patronising tone, by the way.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:48
1
@Hannah- 'what' asks a question, and does not presume to know the quantity beforehand. Although the answer may be singular or plural, we can see by the agreement that it is usually used in a singular way, and we do not ask questions like "*what are in the fridge", "*what fall from the sky", "*what are on TV tonight", even when we expect a plural answer.
– AmI
Apr 28 at 4:01
|
show 4 more comments
It's right as you had it: 'scare' and 'are'. 'Eyes and nose' are three things and require plural verbs. 'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms.
answered Apr 27 at 21:08
Philip WoodPhilip Wood
4556
It's right as you had it: 'scare' and 'are'. 'Eyes and nose' are three things and require plural verbs. 'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms.
answered Apr 27 at 21:08
Philip WoodPhilip Wood
4556
answered Apr 27 at 21:08
Philip WoodPhilip Wood
4556
answered Apr 27 at 21:08
Philip WoodPhilip Wood
4556
answered Apr 27 at 21:08
Philip WoodPhilip Wood
4556
4556
The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:23
(a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:31
Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:38
1
'what' ISN'T singular: 'what' can refer to either singular or plural.In your sentence you can replace "what" by "the things that". I'd like to apologise for an unintentionally patronising tone, by the way.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:48
1
@Hannah- 'what' asks a question, and does not presume to know the quantity beforehand. Although the answer may be singular or plural, we can see by the agreement that it is usually used in a singular way, and we do not ask questions like "*what are in the fridge", "*what fall from the sky", "*what are on TV tonight", even when we expect a plural answer.
– AmI
Apr 28 at 4:01
|
show 4 more comments
The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:23
(a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:31
Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:38
1
'what' ISN'T singular: 'what' can refer to either singular or plural.In your sentence you can replace "what" by "the things that". I'd like to apologise for an unintentionally patronising tone, by the way.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:48
1
@Hannah- 'what' asks a question, and does not presume to know the quantity beforehand. Although the answer may be singular or plural, we can see by the agreement that it is usually used in a singular way, and we do not ask questions like "*what are in the fridge", "*what fall from the sky", "*what are on TV tonight", even when we expect a plural answer.
– AmI
Apr 28 at 4:01
The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:23
The first part of the first example is correct, yes, but not the rest, right? Is that what you mean? Also, I'm curious about your last sentence there – "'what' doesn't have separate singular and plural forms" – what do you mean by that? Would it be possible to clarify?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:23
(a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:31
(a) "Her eyes and nose are WHAT SCARE ME." - "WHAT SCARE ME are her eyes and nose." Both are right. (b) 'What' is always 'what'; it doesn't change form according to whether one object or more than one object is being referred to.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:31
Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:38
Ah, right, now I see what you meant by that last sentence, and of course you're right about that – that it doesn't change its form, I mean. It's always singular. :) I disagree with the rest though – surely it should be Her eyes and nose are what scares me and What scares me is her eyes and nose respectively?
– Hannah
Apr 27 at 21:38
1
1
'what' ISN'T singular: 'what' can refer to either singular or plural.In your sentence you can replace "what" by "the things that". I'd like to apologise for an unintentionally patronising tone, by the way.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:48
'what' ISN'T singular: 'what' can refer to either singular or plural.In your sentence you can replace "what" by "the things that". I'd like to apologise for an unintentionally patronising tone, by the way.
– Philip Wood
Apr 27 at 21:48
1
1
@Hannah- 'what' asks a question, and does not presume to know the quantity beforehand. Although the answer may be singular or plural, we can see by the agreement that it is usually used in a singular way, and we do not ask questions like "*what are in the fridge", "*what fall from the sky", "*what are on TV tonight", even when we expect a plural answer.
– AmI
Apr 28 at 4:01
@Hannah- 'what' asks a question, and does not presume to know the quantity beforehand. Although the answer may be singular or plural, we can see by the agreement that it is usually used in a singular way, and we do not ask questions like "*what are in the fridge", "*what fall from the sky", "*what are on TV tonight", even when we expect a plural answer.
– AmI
Apr 28 at 4:01
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For plural I would prefer Those which scare me are .... Because "what" is inherently singular.
– aparente001
Apr 28 at 5:57