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Seemingly unused edef prior to an ifx mysteriously affects the outcome of the ifx. Why?


Why does this simple ifx test fail?How to display some text based on a condition inside a tabular environment?Macro to do nothing via a defPreserving (and Controlling) ExpandednessWhy does this use of `expandafter` not work?Pre-expansion of moving macro argumentUsing MakeUppercase on expanded macro with argumentDefining an anaphoric macro to define multiple commands based on a templatestoring snapshot of a rapidly changing commandThe laws of expansion (chardeffoo=<number>foo)Why can I not use string to prevent the expansion of csname?













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It is my understanding that in ifxxy xx else yy fi, ifx does NOT expand its arguments. If you want ifx to compare the expanded values of x and y, then we need to do the expansion ourselves before feeding them to ifx:



edefxpndXx
edefxpndYy
ifxxpndXxpndY xx else yy fi


asedef does this expansion for us. This is frequently the case when x and y are the arguments in a macro so we really have no idea what kind of quantity they represent.



I was adapting a code snippet I found in user2478's answer to the TeX-SE question Why does this simple ifx test fail? and came up with the following MWE:



documentclassarticle
usepackage[svgnames]xcolor % to get named colors

begindocument

chardefmysteryletter=`H
% loop through A-Z to find out the mystery letter
newcountcurrentchar

currentchar=`A
loop
chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
edeftmptemp%
ifxmysterylettertemp colorRedbftempelsetempfi
advance currentchar by 1
unlessifnum currentchar>90
repeat

enddocument


which, when compiled, generated the output:



enter image description here



which actually is the desired output, but it should NOT have been! I added the statement edeftmptemp to get the 'expanded' version of temp intending to change the temp argument to the ifx command to tmp but had not when this document was compiled. Lo and behold, the desired result was printed out! This lead me to believe that the expansion performed by the edeftmptemp statement was not required, so it was commented out and the document recompiled. This gave the wrong result; the letter H was not bold or red



enter image description here



I note that removing the comment character from the end of the edef command had the expected affect of adding a space between each letter, but did not prevent the 'H' from being found and highlighted.



So my question is this: How does the unused expansion of temp by the edef statement change the comparison performed by the ifx command? What am I missing here?










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  • "Lo and behold", not "low and behold"

    – Hammerite
    Apr 27 at 22:25











  • @Hammerite: Thanks, I stand corrected.

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 4:20






  • 1





    chardeftemp=thecurrentchar should always be chardeftemp=currentchar. There's no point in using the (besides the desire of seeing your code break loose).

    – egreg
    Apr 28 at 11:14











  • @egreg: Very true, but such things are not always bad things when it leads to new insight. Thanks for the comment.

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:48















4















It is my understanding that in ifxxy xx else yy fi, ifx does NOT expand its arguments. If you want ifx to compare the expanded values of x and y, then we need to do the expansion ourselves before feeding them to ifx:



edefxpndXx
edefxpndYy
ifxxpndXxpndY xx else yy fi


asedef does this expansion for us. This is frequently the case when x and y are the arguments in a macro so we really have no idea what kind of quantity they represent.



I was adapting a code snippet I found in user2478's answer to the TeX-SE question Why does this simple ifx test fail? and came up with the following MWE:



documentclassarticle
usepackage[svgnames]xcolor % to get named colors

begindocument

chardefmysteryletter=`H
% loop through A-Z to find out the mystery letter
newcountcurrentchar

currentchar=`A
loop
chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
edeftmptemp%
ifxmysterylettertemp colorRedbftempelsetempfi
advance currentchar by 1
unlessifnum currentchar>90
repeat

enddocument


which, when compiled, generated the output:



enter image description here



which actually is the desired output, but it should NOT have been! I added the statement edeftmptemp to get the 'expanded' version of temp intending to change the temp argument to the ifx command to tmp but had not when this document was compiled. Lo and behold, the desired result was printed out! This lead me to believe that the expansion performed by the edeftmptemp statement was not required, so it was commented out and the document recompiled. This gave the wrong result; the letter H was not bold or red



enter image description here



I note that removing the comment character from the end of the edef command had the expected affect of adding a space between each letter, but did not prevent the 'H' from being found and highlighted.



So my question is this: How does the unused expansion of temp by the edef statement change the comparison performed by the ifx command? What am I missing here?










share|improve this question
























  • "Lo and behold", not "low and behold"

    – Hammerite
    Apr 27 at 22:25











  • @Hammerite: Thanks, I stand corrected.

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 4:20






  • 1





    chardeftemp=thecurrentchar should always be chardeftemp=currentchar. There's no point in using the (besides the desire of seeing your code break loose).

    – egreg
    Apr 28 at 11:14











  • @egreg: Very true, but such things are not always bad things when it leads to new insight. Thanks for the comment.

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:48













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1






It is my understanding that in ifxxy xx else yy fi, ifx does NOT expand its arguments. If you want ifx to compare the expanded values of x and y, then we need to do the expansion ourselves before feeding them to ifx:



edefxpndXx
edefxpndYy
ifxxpndXxpndY xx else yy fi


asedef does this expansion for us. This is frequently the case when x and y are the arguments in a macro so we really have no idea what kind of quantity they represent.



I was adapting a code snippet I found in user2478's answer to the TeX-SE question Why does this simple ifx test fail? and came up with the following MWE:



documentclassarticle
usepackage[svgnames]xcolor % to get named colors

begindocument

chardefmysteryletter=`H
% loop through A-Z to find out the mystery letter
newcountcurrentchar

currentchar=`A
loop
chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
edeftmptemp%
ifxmysterylettertemp colorRedbftempelsetempfi
advance currentchar by 1
unlessifnum currentchar>90
repeat

enddocument


which, when compiled, generated the output:



enter image description here



which actually is the desired output, but it should NOT have been! I added the statement edeftmptemp to get the 'expanded' version of temp intending to change the temp argument to the ifx command to tmp but had not when this document was compiled. Lo and behold, the desired result was printed out! This lead me to believe that the expansion performed by the edeftmptemp statement was not required, so it was commented out and the document recompiled. This gave the wrong result; the letter H was not bold or red



enter image description here



I note that removing the comment character from the end of the edef command had the expected affect of adding a space between each letter, but did not prevent the 'H' from being found and highlighted.



So my question is this: How does the unused expansion of temp by the edef statement change the comparison performed by the ifx command? What am I missing here?










share|improve this question
















It is my understanding that in ifxxy xx else yy fi, ifx does NOT expand its arguments. If you want ifx to compare the expanded values of x and y, then we need to do the expansion ourselves before feeding them to ifx:



edefxpndXx
edefxpndYy
ifxxpndXxpndY xx else yy fi


asedef does this expansion for us. This is frequently the case when x and y are the arguments in a macro so we really have no idea what kind of quantity they represent.



I was adapting a code snippet I found in user2478's answer to the TeX-SE question Why does this simple ifx test fail? and came up with the following MWE:



documentclassarticle
usepackage[svgnames]xcolor % to get named colors

begindocument

chardefmysteryletter=`H
% loop through A-Z to find out the mystery letter
newcountcurrentchar

currentchar=`A
loop
chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
edeftmptemp%
ifxmysterylettertemp colorRedbftempelsetempfi
advance currentchar by 1
unlessifnum currentchar>90
repeat

enddocument


which, when compiled, generated the output:



enter image description here



which actually is the desired output, but it should NOT have been! I added the statement edeftmptemp to get the 'expanded' version of temp intending to change the temp argument to the ifx command to tmp but had not when this document was compiled. Lo and behold, the desired result was printed out! This lead me to believe that the expansion performed by the edeftmptemp statement was not required, so it was commented out and the document recompiled. This gave the wrong result; the letter H was not bold or red



enter image description here



I note that removing the comment character from the end of the edef command had the expected affect of adding a space between each letter, but did not prevent the 'H' from being found and highlighted.



So my question is this: How does the unused expansion of temp by the edef statement change the comparison performed by the ifx command? What am I missing here?







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  • "Lo and behold", not "low and behold"

    – Hammerite
    Apr 27 at 22:25











  • @Hammerite: Thanks, I stand corrected.

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 4:20






  • 1





    chardeftemp=thecurrentchar should always be chardeftemp=currentchar. There's no point in using the (besides the desire of seeing your code break loose).

    – egreg
    Apr 28 at 11:14











  • @egreg: Very true, but such things are not always bad things when it leads to new insight. Thanks for the comment.

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:48

















  • "Lo and behold", not "low and behold"

    – Hammerite
    Apr 27 at 22:25











  • @Hammerite: Thanks, I stand corrected.

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 4:20






  • 1





    chardeftemp=thecurrentchar should always be chardeftemp=currentchar. There's no point in using the (besides the desire of seeing your code break loose).

    – egreg
    Apr 28 at 11:14











  • @egreg: Very true, but such things are not always bad things when it leads to new insight. Thanks for the comment.

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:48
















"Lo and behold", not "low and behold"

– Hammerite
Apr 27 at 22:25





"Lo and behold", not "low and behold"

– Hammerite
Apr 27 at 22:25













@Hammerite: Thanks, I stand corrected.

– OneMug
Apr 28 at 4:20





@Hammerite: Thanks, I stand corrected.

– OneMug
Apr 28 at 4:20




1




1





chardeftemp=thecurrentchar should always be chardeftemp=currentchar. There's no point in using the (besides the desire of seeing your code break loose).

– egreg
Apr 28 at 11:14





chardeftemp=thecurrentchar should always be chardeftemp=currentchar. There's no point in using the (besides the desire of seeing your code break loose).

– egreg
Apr 28 at 11:14













@egreg: Very true, but such things are not always bad things when it leads to new insight. Thanks for the comment.

– OneMug
Apr 28 at 14:48





@egreg: Very true, but such things are not always bad things when it leads to new insight. Thanks for the comment.

– OneMug
Apr 28 at 14:48










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 chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
edeftmptemp%


tokens defined via chardef are not expandable, so edeftmptemp is the same as deftmptemp



It is not clear why you do not expect ifxmysterylettertemp not to be true if the two tokens are both defined via chardef with the same number?



I guess your modified version was equivalent to



 chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
ifxmysterylettertemp


There the ifx test happens before the assignment while looking to end the number, you need



 chardeftemp=thecurrentcharrelax
ifxmysterylettertemp


or



 chardeftemp=currentchar
ifxmysterylettertemp


So your edef was just acting like relax terminating the chardef assignment.






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  • Thanks for the fast response. Still trying to figure out how to use the TeX-SE question and comment editors, please be patient. I had planned on converting this snippet into a defscanAlpha#1{... so I coded it the way I did expecting the macro argument to be used in the ifx to be somewhat unknown at execution time, say be using scanAlphaX which would make the argument to the ifx different from using the chardef as in the snippet.

    – OneMug
    Apr 27 at 16:58











  • As stated, removing the edef and using either chardeftemp=thecurrentcharrelax or chardeftemp=currentchar works just fine. Aah, such are the mysteries of relaxing. Not sure if I will ever figure out how to relax. Thanks again for this answer.

    – OneMug
    Apr 27 at 17:19







  • 3





    @OneMugit'its not really the relax just that expansion happens when looking for a number, count0=1ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 13 with the ifx test happening before the assignment, but count0=1 ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 1

    – David Carlisle
    Apr 27 at 17:32












  • Thanks for this illustration. I had not realized that a numeric assignment was so 'aggressive'. I take it that this expansion would continue even farther if that expansion kept producing more numbers, that is, continue until a non-number token was encountered, right? One other issue here, the assignment in your example generates a decimal number. Is it possible to generate numbers in other bases, hexadecimal for instance?

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:24











  • After some reflection about how ifx expands its arguments, it seems that the statement I made in my question that `` ifx does NOT expand its arguments'' is not strictly correct, as it must surely expand them at least once if that argument is a control sequence. Is that correct?

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:41











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 chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
edeftmptemp%


tokens defined via chardef are not expandable, so edeftmptemp is the same as deftmptemp



It is not clear why you do not expect ifxmysterylettertemp not to be true if the two tokens are both defined via chardef with the same number?



I guess your modified version was equivalent to



 chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
ifxmysterylettertemp


There the ifx test happens before the assignment while looking to end the number, you need



 chardeftemp=thecurrentcharrelax
ifxmysterylettertemp


or



 chardeftemp=currentchar
ifxmysterylettertemp


So your edef was just acting like relax terminating the chardef assignment.






share|improve this answer

























  • Thanks for the fast response. Still trying to figure out how to use the TeX-SE question and comment editors, please be patient. I had planned on converting this snippet into a defscanAlpha#1{... so I coded it the way I did expecting the macro argument to be used in the ifx to be somewhat unknown at execution time, say be using scanAlphaX which would make the argument to the ifx different from using the chardef as in the snippet.

    – OneMug
    Apr 27 at 16:58











  • As stated, removing the edef and using either chardeftemp=thecurrentcharrelax or chardeftemp=currentchar works just fine. Aah, such are the mysteries of relaxing. Not sure if I will ever figure out how to relax. Thanks again for this answer.

    – OneMug
    Apr 27 at 17:19







  • 3





    @OneMugit'its not really the relax just that expansion happens when looking for a number, count0=1ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 13 with the ifx test happening before the assignment, but count0=1 ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 1

    – David Carlisle
    Apr 27 at 17:32












  • Thanks for this illustration. I had not realized that a numeric assignment was so 'aggressive'. I take it that this expansion would continue even farther if that expansion kept producing more numbers, that is, continue until a non-number token was encountered, right? One other issue here, the assignment in your example generates a decimal number. Is it possible to generate numbers in other bases, hexadecimal for instance?

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:24











  • After some reflection about how ifx expands its arguments, it seems that the statement I made in my question that `` ifx does NOT expand its arguments'' is not strictly correct, as it must surely expand them at least once if that argument is a control sequence. Is that correct?

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:41















8














 chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
edeftmptemp%


tokens defined via chardef are not expandable, so edeftmptemp is the same as deftmptemp



It is not clear why you do not expect ifxmysterylettertemp not to be true if the two tokens are both defined via chardef with the same number?



I guess your modified version was equivalent to



 chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
ifxmysterylettertemp


There the ifx test happens before the assignment while looking to end the number, you need



 chardeftemp=thecurrentcharrelax
ifxmysterylettertemp


or



 chardeftemp=currentchar
ifxmysterylettertemp


So your edef was just acting like relax terminating the chardef assignment.






share|improve this answer

























  • Thanks for the fast response. Still trying to figure out how to use the TeX-SE question and comment editors, please be patient. I had planned on converting this snippet into a defscanAlpha#1{... so I coded it the way I did expecting the macro argument to be used in the ifx to be somewhat unknown at execution time, say be using scanAlphaX which would make the argument to the ifx different from using the chardef as in the snippet.

    – OneMug
    Apr 27 at 16:58











  • As stated, removing the edef and using either chardeftemp=thecurrentcharrelax or chardeftemp=currentchar works just fine. Aah, such are the mysteries of relaxing. Not sure if I will ever figure out how to relax. Thanks again for this answer.

    – OneMug
    Apr 27 at 17:19







  • 3





    @OneMugit'its not really the relax just that expansion happens when looking for a number, count0=1ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 13 with the ifx test happening before the assignment, but count0=1 ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 1

    – David Carlisle
    Apr 27 at 17:32












  • Thanks for this illustration. I had not realized that a numeric assignment was so 'aggressive'. I take it that this expansion would continue even farther if that expansion kept producing more numbers, that is, continue until a non-number token was encountered, right? One other issue here, the assignment in your example generates a decimal number. Is it possible to generate numbers in other bases, hexadecimal for instance?

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:24











  • After some reflection about how ifx expands its arguments, it seems that the statement I made in my question that `` ifx does NOT expand its arguments'' is not strictly correct, as it must surely expand them at least once if that argument is a control sequence. Is that correct?

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:41













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8








8







 chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
edeftmptemp%


tokens defined via chardef are not expandable, so edeftmptemp is the same as deftmptemp



It is not clear why you do not expect ifxmysterylettertemp not to be true if the two tokens are both defined via chardef with the same number?



I guess your modified version was equivalent to



 chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
ifxmysterylettertemp


There the ifx test happens before the assignment while looking to end the number, you need



 chardeftemp=thecurrentcharrelax
ifxmysterylettertemp


or



 chardeftemp=currentchar
ifxmysterylettertemp


So your edef was just acting like relax terminating the chardef assignment.






share|improve this answer















 chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
edeftmptemp%


tokens defined via chardef are not expandable, so edeftmptemp is the same as deftmptemp



It is not clear why you do not expect ifxmysterylettertemp not to be true if the two tokens are both defined via chardef with the same number?



I guess your modified version was equivalent to



 chardeftemp=thecurrentchar
ifxmysterylettertemp


There the ifx test happens before the assignment while looking to end the number, you need



 chardeftemp=thecurrentcharrelax
ifxmysterylettertemp


or



 chardeftemp=currentchar
ifxmysterylettertemp


So your edef was just acting like relax terminating the chardef assignment.







share|improve this answer














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  • Thanks for the fast response. Still trying to figure out how to use the TeX-SE question and comment editors, please be patient. I had planned on converting this snippet into a defscanAlpha#1{... so I coded it the way I did expecting the macro argument to be used in the ifx to be somewhat unknown at execution time, say be using scanAlphaX which would make the argument to the ifx different from using the chardef as in the snippet.

    – OneMug
    Apr 27 at 16:58











  • As stated, removing the edef and using either chardeftemp=thecurrentcharrelax or chardeftemp=currentchar works just fine. Aah, such are the mysteries of relaxing. Not sure if I will ever figure out how to relax. Thanks again for this answer.

    – OneMug
    Apr 27 at 17:19







  • 3





    @OneMugit'its not really the relax just that expansion happens when looking for a number, count0=1ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 13 with the ifx test happening before the assignment, but count0=1 ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 1

    – David Carlisle
    Apr 27 at 17:32












  • Thanks for this illustration. I had not realized that a numeric assignment was so 'aggressive'. I take it that this expansion would continue even farther if that expansion kept producing more numbers, that is, continue until a non-number token was encountered, right? One other issue here, the assignment in your example generates a decimal number. Is it possible to generate numbers in other bases, hexadecimal for instance?

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:24











  • After some reflection about how ifx expands its arguments, it seems that the statement I made in my question that `` ifx does NOT expand its arguments'' is not strictly correct, as it must surely expand them at least once if that argument is a control sequence. Is that correct?

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:41

















  • Thanks for the fast response. Still trying to figure out how to use the TeX-SE question and comment editors, please be patient. I had planned on converting this snippet into a defscanAlpha#1{... so I coded it the way I did expecting the macro argument to be used in the ifx to be somewhat unknown at execution time, say be using scanAlphaX which would make the argument to the ifx different from using the chardef as in the snippet.

    – OneMug
    Apr 27 at 16:58











  • As stated, removing the edef and using either chardeftemp=thecurrentcharrelax or chardeftemp=currentchar works just fine. Aah, such are the mysteries of relaxing. Not sure if I will ever figure out how to relax. Thanks again for this answer.

    – OneMug
    Apr 27 at 17:19







  • 3





    @OneMugit'its not really the relax just that expansion happens when looking for a number, count0=1ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 13 with the ifx test happening before the assignment, but count0=1 ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 1

    – David Carlisle
    Apr 27 at 17:32












  • Thanks for this illustration. I had not realized that a numeric assignment was so 'aggressive'. I take it that this expansion would continue even farther if that expansion kept producing more numbers, that is, continue until a non-number token was encountered, right? One other issue here, the assignment in your example generates a decimal number. Is it possible to generate numbers in other bases, hexadecimal for instance?

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:24











  • After some reflection about how ifx expands its arguments, it seems that the statement I made in my question that `` ifx does NOT expand its arguments'' is not strictly correct, as it must surely expand them at least once if that argument is a control sequence. Is that correct?

    – OneMug
    Apr 28 at 14:41
















Thanks for the fast response. Still trying to figure out how to use the TeX-SE question and comment editors, please be patient. I had planned on converting this snippet into a defscanAlpha#1{... so I coded it the way I did expecting the macro argument to be used in the ifx to be somewhat unknown at execution time, say be using scanAlphaX which would make the argument to the ifx different from using the chardef as in the snippet.

– OneMug
Apr 27 at 16:58





Thanks for the fast response. Still trying to figure out how to use the TeX-SE question and comment editors, please be patient. I had planned on converting this snippet into a defscanAlpha#1{... so I coded it the way I did expecting the macro argument to be used in the ifx to be somewhat unknown at execution time, say be using scanAlphaX which would make the argument to the ifx different from using the chardef as in the snippet.

– OneMug
Apr 27 at 16:58













As stated, removing the edef and using either chardeftemp=thecurrentcharrelax or chardeftemp=currentchar works just fine. Aah, such are the mysteries of relaxing. Not sure if I will ever figure out how to relax. Thanks again for this answer.

– OneMug
Apr 27 at 17:19






As stated, removing the edef and using either chardeftemp=thecurrentcharrelax or chardeftemp=currentchar works just fine. Aah, such are the mysteries of relaxing. Not sure if I will ever figure out how to relax. Thanks again for this answer.

– OneMug
Apr 27 at 17:19





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@OneMugit'its not really the relax just that expansion happens when looking for a number, count0=1ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 13 with the ifx test happening before the assignment, but count0=1 ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 1

– David Carlisle
Apr 27 at 17:32






@OneMugit'its not really the relax just that expansion happens when looking for a number, count0=1ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 13 with the ifx test happening before the assignment, but count0=1 ifx ab 2else 3fi sets count0 to 1

– David Carlisle
Apr 27 at 17:32














Thanks for this illustration. I had not realized that a numeric assignment was so 'aggressive'. I take it that this expansion would continue even farther if that expansion kept producing more numbers, that is, continue until a non-number token was encountered, right? One other issue here, the assignment in your example generates a decimal number. Is it possible to generate numbers in other bases, hexadecimal for instance?

– OneMug
Apr 28 at 14:24





Thanks for this illustration. I had not realized that a numeric assignment was so 'aggressive'. I take it that this expansion would continue even farther if that expansion kept producing more numbers, that is, continue until a non-number token was encountered, right? One other issue here, the assignment in your example generates a decimal number. Is it possible to generate numbers in other bases, hexadecimal for instance?

– OneMug
Apr 28 at 14:24













After some reflection about how ifx expands its arguments, it seems that the statement I made in my question that `` ifx does NOT expand its arguments'' is not strictly correct, as it must surely expand them at least once if that argument is a control sequence. Is that correct?

– OneMug
Apr 28 at 14:41





After some reflection about how ifx expands its arguments, it seems that the statement I made in my question that `` ifx does NOT expand its arguments'' is not strictly correct, as it must surely expand them at least once if that argument is a control sequence. Is that correct?

– OneMug
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