Largest value of determinantProving the determinant on the L.H.S = determinant on the R.H.S.Prove that the determinant is $0$ by expressing as a productLeast value of a determinantWrite the given Determinant as the product of two Determinantsdeterminant diagonal zero symmetric matrixSolving $n$th order determinantMatrix Determinant CalculationProve determinant of a matrix with trigonometry functions.Proving that two determinants are equal without expanding themShow the following matrix has determinant = 0

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Largest value of determinant


Proving the determinant on the L.H.S = determinant on the R.H.S.Prove that the determinant is $0$ by expressing as a productLeast value of a determinantWrite the given Determinant as the product of two Determinantsdeterminant diagonal zero symmetric matrixSolving $n$th order determinantMatrix Determinant CalculationProve determinant of a matrix with trigonometry functions.Proving that two determinants are equal without expanding themShow the following matrix has determinant = 0













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If $alpha,beta,gamma in [-3,10].$ Then largest value of the determinant



$$beginvmatrix3alpha^2&beta^2+alphabeta+alpha^2&gamma^2+alphagamma+alpha^2\\
alpha^2+alphabeta+beta^2& 3beta^2&gamma^2+betagamma+beta^2\\
alpha^2+alphagamma+gamma^2& beta^2+betagamma+gamma^2&3gamma^2endvmatrix$$




Try: I am trying to break that determinant into product of 2 determinants but not able to break it.



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    If $alpha,beta,gamma in [-3,10].$ Then largest value of the determinant



    $$beginvmatrix3alpha^2&beta^2+alphabeta+alpha^2&gamma^2+alphagamma+alpha^2\\
    alpha^2+alphabeta+beta^2& 3beta^2&gamma^2+betagamma+beta^2\\
    alpha^2+alphagamma+gamma^2& beta^2+betagamma+gamma^2&3gamma^2endvmatrix$$




    Try: I am trying to break that determinant into product of 2 determinants but not able to break it.



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      If $alpha,beta,gamma in [-3,10].$ Then largest value of the determinant



      $$beginvmatrix3alpha^2&beta^2+alphabeta+alpha^2&gamma^2+alphagamma+alpha^2\\
      alpha^2+alphabeta+beta^2& 3beta^2&gamma^2+betagamma+beta^2\\
      alpha^2+alphagamma+gamma^2& beta^2+betagamma+gamma^2&3gamma^2endvmatrix$$




      Try: I am trying to break that determinant into product of 2 determinants but not able to break it.



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      If $alpha,beta,gamma in [-3,10].$ Then largest value of the determinant



      $$beginvmatrix3alpha^2&beta^2+alphabeta+alpha^2&gamma^2+alphagamma+alpha^2\\
      alpha^2+alphabeta+beta^2& 3beta^2&gamma^2+betagamma+beta^2\\
      alpha^2+alphagamma+gamma^2& beta^2+betagamma+gamma^2&3gamma^2endvmatrix$$




      Try: I am trying to break that determinant into product of 2 determinants but not able to break it.



      Could someone help me in this question? Thanks.







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          The matrix is the product $AB$, where
          $$A=beginpmatrixalpha^2&alpha&1\beta^2&beta&1\
          gamma^2&gamma&1endpmatrixmbox and B=beginpmatrix1&1&1\alpha&beta&gamma\
          alpha^2&beta^2&gamma^2endpmatrix.$$

          So its determinant is the product of $det(A)$ and $det(B)$.
          The matrix $A$ can be obtained from $B$ by exchanging the first and the third row and then transposing the result. Therefore $det(A)=-det(B)$ and the determinant
          of the given matrix is $-det(B)^2$. This is a non-positive expression and its
          maximal value $0$ is attained if and only if $det(B)=0$.



          Now $B$ is a Vandermonde matrix and its determinant is known to be
          $(gamma-beta)(gamma-alpha)(beta-alpha)$. This determinant is zero and thus the given determinant attains its maximal value if and only if two or more of the numbers $alpha,beta,gamma$ are equal.






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            Beautiful solution, but how did you obtain $A$ and $B$? Was it just inspiration, or previous experience?
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            To be honest, a) I had seen the value of the determinant in the other answers and it is related to Vandermonde, b) the question speaks of breaking into a product, c) the squares in the matrix hint to Vandermonde and d) the fact that every entry is a sum of three terms (sometimes equal) also hints a product of Vandermonde-like matrices. The rest is experimenting...
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          Hint: Using the rules of SARRUS we get after simplifying $$- left( alpha-gamma right) ^2 left( beta-gamma right) ^2
          left( beta-alpha right) ^2
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          Being a $3 times 3$ determinant, it is too small to be attacked with sophisticated techniques, but also too involved to be attacked by brute force. We shall compute it with successive simplifications of its rows and columns. In the following, $R_i$ and $C_j$ will mean the $i$-th row and the $j$-th column, and $[R_i to aR_i + bR_j]$ means to replace the $i$-th row with the linear combination $aR_i + bR_j$ where $a$ and $b$ are numbers. The computation, then, goes as follows:



          $$beginalign*
          & beginvmatrix
          3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
          alpha^2 + alpha beta + beta^2 & 3beta^2 & gamma^2 + beta gamma + beta^2 \
          alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = [R_2 to R_2 - R_3] = \[10pt]
          & beginvmatrix
          3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
          (beta - gamma) (alpha + beta + gamma) & (beta - gamma) (2beta + gamma) & (beta - gamma) (beta + 2gamma) \
          alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = \[10pt]
          (beta - gamma) & beginvmatrix
          3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
          alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
          alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = [R_3 to R_3 - R_1] = \[10pt]
          (beta - gamma) & beginvmatrix
          3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
          alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
          (gamma - alpha) (gamma + 2alpha) & (gamma - alpha) (alpha + beta + gamma) & (gamma - alpha) (2gamma + alpha) endvmatrix = \[10pt]
          (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) & beginvmatrix
          3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
          alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
          gamma + 2alpha & alpha + beta + gamma & 2gamma + alpha endvmatrix = [C_2 to C_2 - C_1] = \[10pt]
          (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) & beginvmatrix
          3alpha^2 & (beta - alpha) (beta + 2alpha) & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
          alpha + beta + gamma & beta - alpha & beta + 2gamma \
          gamma + 2alpha & beta - alpha & 2gamma + alpha endvmatrix = \[10pt]
          (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
          3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
          alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & beta + 2gamma \
          gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 2gamma + alpha
          endvmatrix = [C_3 to C_3 - C_1] \[10pt]
          (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
          3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & (gamma - alpha) (gamma + 2alpha) \
          alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & gamma - alpha \
          gamma + 2alpha & 1 & gamma - alpha
          endvmatrix = \[10pt]
          (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
          3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma + 2alpha \
          alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 1 \
          gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 1
          endvmatrix = [C_3 to C_3 - C_2] \[10pt]
          (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
          3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma - beta \
          alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 0 \
          gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 0
          endvmatrix = \[10pt]
          - (beta - gamma)^2 (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
          3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & 1 \
          alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 0 \
          gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 0
          endvmatrix = \[10pt]
          - (beta - gamma)^2 (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha)^2
          endalign*
          $$



          where the last $3 times 3$ determinant has been expanded along the $3$rd column.



          Since the determinant is the negative of the square of a product of real numbers, its maximum will be $0$, reached whenever any two of $alpha, beta, gamma in [-3,10]$ are equal.






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            Hint: The matrix is symmetric. You can use the Cholesky decomposition to rewrite the matrix $A$ as $A=LL^T$, in which $L$ is a lower triangular matrix. Then the determinant is $det A = det L det L^T = det^2 L$. Then $det L$ is given by the product of the diagonal elements of $L$ as it is a lower triangular matrix.






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              Yeah, well, saying it is easy, but why don't you also do it? Finding $L$ doesn't seem to be easier that computing the determinant by brute force, so why bother, then?
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            The matrix is the product $AB$, where
            $$A=beginpmatrixalpha^2&alpha&1\beta^2&beta&1\
            gamma^2&gamma&1endpmatrixmbox and B=beginpmatrix1&1&1\alpha&beta&gamma\
            alpha^2&beta^2&gamma^2endpmatrix.$$

            So its determinant is the product of $det(A)$ and $det(B)$.
            The matrix $A$ can be obtained from $B$ by exchanging the first and the third row and then transposing the result. Therefore $det(A)=-det(B)$ and the determinant
            of the given matrix is $-det(B)^2$. This is a non-positive expression and its
            maximal value $0$ is attained if and only if $det(B)=0$.



            Now $B$ is a Vandermonde matrix and its determinant is known to be
            $(gamma-beta)(gamma-alpha)(beta-alpha)$. This determinant is zero and thus the given determinant attains its maximal value if and only if two or more of the numbers $alpha,beta,gamma$ are equal.






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              Beautiful solution, but how did you obtain $A$ and $B$? Was it just inspiration, or previous experience?
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              – Alex M.
              2 days ago






            • 2




              $begingroup$
              To be honest, a) I had seen the value of the determinant in the other answers and it is related to Vandermonde, b) the question speaks of breaking into a product, c) the squares in the matrix hint to Vandermonde and d) the fact that every entry is a sum of three terms (sometimes equal) also hints a product of Vandermonde-like matrices. The rest is experimenting...
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            The matrix is the product $AB$, where
            $$A=beginpmatrixalpha^2&alpha&1\beta^2&beta&1\
            gamma^2&gamma&1endpmatrixmbox and B=beginpmatrix1&1&1\alpha&beta&gamma\
            alpha^2&beta^2&gamma^2endpmatrix.$$

            So its determinant is the product of $det(A)$ and $det(B)$.
            The matrix $A$ can be obtained from $B$ by exchanging the first and the third row and then transposing the result. Therefore $det(A)=-det(B)$ and the determinant
            of the given matrix is $-det(B)^2$. This is a non-positive expression and its
            maximal value $0$ is attained if and only if $det(B)=0$.



            Now $B$ is a Vandermonde matrix and its determinant is known to be
            $(gamma-beta)(gamma-alpha)(beta-alpha)$. This determinant is zero and thus the given determinant attains its maximal value if and only if two or more of the numbers $alpha,beta,gamma$ are equal.






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              Beautiful solution, but how did you obtain $A$ and $B$? Was it just inspiration, or previous experience?
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              – Alex M.
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            • 2




              $begingroup$
              To be honest, a) I had seen the value of the determinant in the other answers and it is related to Vandermonde, b) the question speaks of breaking into a product, c) the squares in the matrix hint to Vandermonde and d) the fact that every entry is a sum of three terms (sometimes equal) also hints a product of Vandermonde-like matrices. The rest is experimenting...
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              2 days ago













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            The matrix is the product $AB$, where
            $$A=beginpmatrixalpha^2&alpha&1\beta^2&beta&1\
            gamma^2&gamma&1endpmatrixmbox and B=beginpmatrix1&1&1\alpha&beta&gamma\
            alpha^2&beta^2&gamma^2endpmatrix.$$

            So its determinant is the product of $det(A)$ and $det(B)$.
            The matrix $A$ can be obtained from $B$ by exchanging the first and the third row and then transposing the result. Therefore $det(A)=-det(B)$ and the determinant
            of the given matrix is $-det(B)^2$. This is a non-positive expression and its
            maximal value $0$ is attained if and only if $det(B)=0$.



            Now $B$ is a Vandermonde matrix and its determinant is known to be
            $(gamma-beta)(gamma-alpha)(beta-alpha)$. This determinant is zero and thus the given determinant attains its maximal value if and only if two or more of the numbers $alpha,beta,gamma$ are equal.






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            The matrix is the product $AB$, where
            $$A=beginpmatrixalpha^2&alpha&1\beta^2&beta&1\
            gamma^2&gamma&1endpmatrixmbox and B=beginpmatrix1&1&1\alpha&beta&gamma\
            alpha^2&beta^2&gamma^2endpmatrix.$$

            So its determinant is the product of $det(A)$ and $det(B)$.
            The matrix $A$ can be obtained from $B$ by exchanging the first and the third row and then transposing the result. Therefore $det(A)=-det(B)$ and the determinant
            of the given matrix is $-det(B)^2$. This is a non-positive expression and its
            maximal value $0$ is attained if and only if $det(B)=0$.



            Now $B$ is a Vandermonde matrix and its determinant is known to be
            $(gamma-beta)(gamma-alpha)(beta-alpha)$. This determinant is zero and thus the given determinant attains its maximal value if and only if two or more of the numbers $alpha,beta,gamma$ are equal.







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              Beautiful solution, but how did you obtain $A$ and $B$? Was it just inspiration, or previous experience?
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              – Alex M.
              2 days ago






            • 2




              $begingroup$
              To be honest, a) I had seen the value of the determinant in the other answers and it is related to Vandermonde, b) the question speaks of breaking into a product, c) the squares in the matrix hint to Vandermonde and d) the fact that every entry is a sum of three terms (sometimes equal) also hints a product of Vandermonde-like matrices. The rest is experimenting...
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            • $begingroup$
              Beautiful solution, but how did you obtain $A$ and $B$? Was it just inspiration, or previous experience?
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              – Alex M.
              2 days ago






            • 2




              $begingroup$
              To be honest, a) I had seen the value of the determinant in the other answers and it is related to Vandermonde, b) the question speaks of breaking into a product, c) the squares in the matrix hint to Vandermonde and d) the fact that every entry is a sum of three terms (sometimes equal) also hints a product of Vandermonde-like matrices. The rest is experimenting...
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            $begingroup$
            Beautiful solution, but how did you obtain $A$ and $B$? Was it just inspiration, or previous experience?
            $endgroup$
            – Alex M.
            2 days ago




            $begingroup$
            Beautiful solution, but how did you obtain $A$ and $B$? Was it just inspiration, or previous experience?
            $endgroup$
            – Alex M.
            2 days ago




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            To be honest, a) I had seen the value of the determinant in the other answers and it is related to Vandermonde, b) the question speaks of breaking into a product, c) the squares in the matrix hint to Vandermonde and d) the fact that every entry is a sum of three terms (sometimes equal) also hints a product of Vandermonde-like matrices. The rest is experimenting...
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            – Helmut
            2 days ago




            $begingroup$
            To be honest, a) I had seen the value of the determinant in the other answers and it is related to Vandermonde, b) the question speaks of breaking into a product, c) the squares in the matrix hint to Vandermonde and d) the fact that every entry is a sum of three terms (sometimes equal) also hints a product of Vandermonde-like matrices. The rest is experimenting...
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            Hint: Using the rules of SARRUS we get after simplifying $$- left( alpha-gamma right) ^2 left( beta-gamma right) ^2
            left( beta-alpha right) ^2
            $$






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              I think so! What result do you get?
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              This is nice to hear!
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              Answer given is $0$
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              I would eat a jar of fish oil rather than performing all those multiplications, and then all the simplifications. Plus, you are cheating, because you haven't performed them yourself, but rather used a computer algebra system to do them.
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            Hint: Using the rules of SARRUS we get after simplifying $$- left( alpha-gamma right) ^2 left( beta-gamma right) ^2
            left( beta-alpha right) ^2
            $$






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              I think so! What result do you get?
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              This is nice to hear!
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              A big typo is only a typo, big or not!
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              Answer given is $0$
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              I would eat a jar of fish oil rather than performing all those multiplications, and then all the simplifications. Plus, you are cheating, because you haven't performed them yourself, but rather used a computer algebra system to do them.
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            Hint: Using the rules of SARRUS we get after simplifying $$- left( alpha-gamma right) ^2 left( beta-gamma right) ^2
            left( beta-alpha right) ^2
            $$






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            Hint: Using the rules of SARRUS we get after simplifying $$- left( alpha-gamma right) ^2 left( beta-gamma right) ^2
            left( beta-alpha right) ^2
            $$







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              I think so! What result do you get?
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              This is nice to hear!
              $endgroup$
              – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
              Apr 27 at 15:23










            • $begingroup$
              A big typo is only a typo, big or not!
              $endgroup$
              – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
              Apr 27 at 15:24










            • $begingroup$
              Answer given is $0$
              $endgroup$
              – DXT
              Apr 28 at 1:19










            • $begingroup$
              I would eat a jar of fish oil rather than performing all those multiplications, and then all the simplifications. Plus, you are cheating, because you haven't performed them yourself, but rather used a computer algebra system to do them.
              $endgroup$
              – Alex M.
              Apr 30 at 14:18

















            • $begingroup$
              I think so! What result do you get?
              $endgroup$
              – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
              Apr 27 at 15:22










            • $begingroup$
              This is nice to hear!
              $endgroup$
              – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
              Apr 27 at 15:23










            • $begingroup$
              A big typo is only a typo, big or not!
              $endgroup$
              – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
              Apr 27 at 15:24










            • $begingroup$
              Answer given is $0$
              $endgroup$
              – DXT
              Apr 28 at 1:19










            • $begingroup$
              I would eat a jar of fish oil rather than performing all those multiplications, and then all the simplifications. Plus, you are cheating, because you haven't performed them yourself, but rather used a computer algebra system to do them.
              $endgroup$
              – Alex M.
              Apr 30 at 14:18
















            $begingroup$
            I think so! What result do you get?
            $endgroup$
            – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
            Apr 27 at 15:22




            $begingroup$
            I think so! What result do you get?
            $endgroup$
            – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
            Apr 27 at 15:22












            $begingroup$
            This is nice to hear!
            $endgroup$
            – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
            Apr 27 at 15:23




            $begingroup$
            This is nice to hear!
            $endgroup$
            – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
            Apr 27 at 15:23












            $begingroup$
            A big typo is only a typo, big or not!
            $endgroup$
            – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
            Apr 27 at 15:24




            $begingroup$
            A big typo is only a typo, big or not!
            $endgroup$
            – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
            Apr 27 at 15:24












            $begingroup$
            Answer given is $0$
            $endgroup$
            – DXT
            Apr 28 at 1:19




            $begingroup$
            Answer given is $0$
            $endgroup$
            – DXT
            Apr 28 at 1:19












            $begingroup$
            I would eat a jar of fish oil rather than performing all those multiplications, and then all the simplifications. Plus, you are cheating, because you haven't performed them yourself, but rather used a computer algebra system to do them.
            $endgroup$
            – Alex M.
            Apr 30 at 14:18





            $begingroup$
            I would eat a jar of fish oil rather than performing all those multiplications, and then all the simplifications. Plus, you are cheating, because you haven't performed them yourself, but rather used a computer algebra system to do them.
            $endgroup$
            – Alex M.
            Apr 30 at 14:18












            3












            $begingroup$

            Being a $3 times 3$ determinant, it is too small to be attacked with sophisticated techniques, but also too involved to be attacked by brute force. We shall compute it with successive simplifications of its rows and columns. In the following, $R_i$ and $C_j$ will mean the $i$-th row and the $j$-th column, and $[R_i to aR_i + bR_j]$ means to replace the $i$-th row with the linear combination $aR_i + bR_j$ where $a$ and $b$ are numbers. The computation, then, goes as follows:



            $$beginalign*
            & beginvmatrix
            3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
            alpha^2 + alpha beta + beta^2 & 3beta^2 & gamma^2 + beta gamma + beta^2 \
            alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = [R_2 to R_2 - R_3] = \[10pt]
            & beginvmatrix
            3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
            (beta - gamma) (alpha + beta + gamma) & (beta - gamma) (2beta + gamma) & (beta - gamma) (beta + 2gamma) \
            alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = \[10pt]
            (beta - gamma) & beginvmatrix
            3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
            alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
            alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = [R_3 to R_3 - R_1] = \[10pt]
            (beta - gamma) & beginvmatrix
            3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
            alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
            (gamma - alpha) (gamma + 2alpha) & (gamma - alpha) (alpha + beta + gamma) & (gamma - alpha) (2gamma + alpha) endvmatrix = \[10pt]
            (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) & beginvmatrix
            3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
            alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
            gamma + 2alpha & alpha + beta + gamma & 2gamma + alpha endvmatrix = [C_2 to C_2 - C_1] = \[10pt]
            (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) & beginvmatrix
            3alpha^2 & (beta - alpha) (beta + 2alpha) & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
            alpha + beta + gamma & beta - alpha & beta + 2gamma \
            gamma + 2alpha & beta - alpha & 2gamma + alpha endvmatrix = \[10pt]
            (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
            3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
            alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & beta + 2gamma \
            gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 2gamma + alpha
            endvmatrix = [C_3 to C_3 - C_1] \[10pt]
            (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
            3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & (gamma - alpha) (gamma + 2alpha) \
            alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & gamma - alpha \
            gamma + 2alpha & 1 & gamma - alpha
            endvmatrix = \[10pt]
            (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
            3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma + 2alpha \
            alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 1 \
            gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 1
            endvmatrix = [C_3 to C_3 - C_2] \[10pt]
            (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
            3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma - beta \
            alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 0 \
            gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 0
            endvmatrix = \[10pt]
            - (beta - gamma)^2 (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
            3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & 1 \
            alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 0 \
            gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 0
            endvmatrix = \[10pt]
            - (beta - gamma)^2 (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha)^2
            endalign*
            $$



            where the last $3 times 3$ determinant has been expanded along the $3$rd column.



            Since the determinant is the negative of the square of a product of real numbers, its maximum will be $0$, reached whenever any two of $alpha, beta, gamma in [-3,10]$ are equal.






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            $endgroup$

















              3












              $begingroup$

              Being a $3 times 3$ determinant, it is too small to be attacked with sophisticated techniques, but also too involved to be attacked by brute force. We shall compute it with successive simplifications of its rows and columns. In the following, $R_i$ and $C_j$ will mean the $i$-th row and the $j$-th column, and $[R_i to aR_i + bR_j]$ means to replace the $i$-th row with the linear combination $aR_i + bR_j$ where $a$ and $b$ are numbers. The computation, then, goes as follows:



              $$beginalign*
              & beginvmatrix
              3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
              alpha^2 + alpha beta + beta^2 & 3beta^2 & gamma^2 + beta gamma + beta^2 \
              alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = [R_2 to R_2 - R_3] = \[10pt]
              & beginvmatrix
              3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
              (beta - gamma) (alpha + beta + gamma) & (beta - gamma) (2beta + gamma) & (beta - gamma) (beta + 2gamma) \
              alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = \[10pt]
              (beta - gamma) & beginvmatrix
              3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
              alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
              alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = [R_3 to R_3 - R_1] = \[10pt]
              (beta - gamma) & beginvmatrix
              3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
              alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
              (gamma - alpha) (gamma + 2alpha) & (gamma - alpha) (alpha + beta + gamma) & (gamma - alpha) (2gamma + alpha) endvmatrix = \[10pt]
              (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) & beginvmatrix
              3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
              alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
              gamma + 2alpha & alpha + beta + gamma & 2gamma + alpha endvmatrix = [C_2 to C_2 - C_1] = \[10pt]
              (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) & beginvmatrix
              3alpha^2 & (beta - alpha) (beta + 2alpha) & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
              alpha + beta + gamma & beta - alpha & beta + 2gamma \
              gamma + 2alpha & beta - alpha & 2gamma + alpha endvmatrix = \[10pt]
              (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
              3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
              alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & beta + 2gamma \
              gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 2gamma + alpha
              endvmatrix = [C_3 to C_3 - C_1] \[10pt]
              (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
              3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & (gamma - alpha) (gamma + 2alpha) \
              alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & gamma - alpha \
              gamma + 2alpha & 1 & gamma - alpha
              endvmatrix = \[10pt]
              (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
              3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma + 2alpha \
              alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 1 \
              gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 1
              endvmatrix = [C_3 to C_3 - C_2] \[10pt]
              (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
              3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma - beta \
              alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 0 \
              gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 0
              endvmatrix = \[10pt]
              - (beta - gamma)^2 (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
              3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & 1 \
              alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 0 \
              gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 0
              endvmatrix = \[10pt]
              - (beta - gamma)^2 (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha)^2
              endalign*
              $$



              where the last $3 times 3$ determinant has been expanded along the $3$rd column.



              Since the determinant is the negative of the square of a product of real numbers, its maximum will be $0$, reached whenever any two of $alpha, beta, gamma in [-3,10]$ are equal.






              share|cite|improve this answer











              $endgroup$















                3












                3








                3





                $begingroup$

                Being a $3 times 3$ determinant, it is too small to be attacked with sophisticated techniques, but also too involved to be attacked by brute force. We shall compute it with successive simplifications of its rows and columns. In the following, $R_i$ and $C_j$ will mean the $i$-th row and the $j$-th column, and $[R_i to aR_i + bR_j]$ means to replace the $i$-th row with the linear combination $aR_i + bR_j$ where $a$ and $b$ are numbers. The computation, then, goes as follows:



                $$beginalign*
                & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                alpha^2 + alpha beta + beta^2 & 3beta^2 & gamma^2 + beta gamma + beta^2 \
                alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = [R_2 to R_2 - R_3] = \[10pt]
                & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                (beta - gamma) (alpha + beta + gamma) & (beta - gamma) (2beta + gamma) & (beta - gamma) (beta + 2gamma) \
                alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
                alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = [R_3 to R_3 - R_1] = \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
                (gamma - alpha) (gamma + 2alpha) & (gamma - alpha) (alpha + beta + gamma) & (gamma - alpha) (2gamma + alpha) endvmatrix = \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
                gamma + 2alpha & alpha + beta + gamma & 2gamma + alpha endvmatrix = [C_2 to C_2 - C_1] = \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & (beta - alpha) (beta + 2alpha) & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                alpha + beta + gamma & beta - alpha & beta + 2gamma \
                gamma + 2alpha & beta - alpha & 2gamma + alpha endvmatrix = \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & beta + 2gamma \
                gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 2gamma + alpha
                endvmatrix = [C_3 to C_3 - C_1] \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & (gamma - alpha) (gamma + 2alpha) \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & gamma - alpha \
                gamma + 2alpha & 1 & gamma - alpha
                endvmatrix = \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma + 2alpha \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 1 \
                gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 1
                endvmatrix = [C_3 to C_3 - C_2] \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma - beta \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 0 \
                gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 0
                endvmatrix = \[10pt]
                - (beta - gamma)^2 (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & 1 \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 0 \
                gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 0
                endvmatrix = \[10pt]
                - (beta - gamma)^2 (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha)^2
                endalign*
                $$



                where the last $3 times 3$ determinant has been expanded along the $3$rd column.



                Since the determinant is the negative of the square of a product of real numbers, its maximum will be $0$, reached whenever any two of $alpha, beta, gamma in [-3,10]$ are equal.






                share|cite|improve this answer











                $endgroup$



                Being a $3 times 3$ determinant, it is too small to be attacked with sophisticated techniques, but also too involved to be attacked by brute force. We shall compute it with successive simplifications of its rows and columns. In the following, $R_i$ and $C_j$ will mean the $i$-th row and the $j$-th column, and $[R_i to aR_i + bR_j]$ means to replace the $i$-th row with the linear combination $aR_i + bR_j$ where $a$ and $b$ are numbers. The computation, then, goes as follows:



                $$beginalign*
                & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                alpha^2 + alpha beta + beta^2 & 3beta^2 & gamma^2 + beta gamma + beta^2 \
                alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = [R_2 to R_2 - R_3] = \[10pt]
                & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                (beta - gamma) (alpha + beta + gamma) & (beta - gamma) (2beta + gamma) & (beta - gamma) (beta + 2gamma) \
                alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
                alpha^2 + alpha gamma + gamma^2 & beta^2 + beta gamma + gamma^2 & 3gamma^2endvmatrix = [R_3 to R_3 - R_1] = \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
                (gamma - alpha) (gamma + 2alpha) & (gamma - alpha) (alpha + beta + gamma) & (gamma - alpha) (2gamma + alpha) endvmatrix = \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta^2 + alpha beta + alpha^2 & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 2beta + gamma & beta + 2gamma \
                gamma + 2alpha & alpha + beta + gamma & 2gamma + alpha endvmatrix = [C_2 to C_2 - C_1] = \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & (beta - alpha) (beta + 2alpha) & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                alpha + beta + gamma & beta - alpha & beta + 2gamma \
                gamma + 2alpha & beta - alpha & 2gamma + alpha endvmatrix = \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma^2 + alpha gamma + alpha^2 \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & beta + 2gamma \
                gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 2gamma + alpha
                endvmatrix = [C_3 to C_3 - C_1] \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha) (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & (gamma - alpha) (gamma + 2alpha) \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & gamma - alpha \
                gamma + 2alpha & 1 & gamma - alpha
                endvmatrix = \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma + 2alpha \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 1 \
                gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 1
                endvmatrix = [C_3 to C_3 - C_2] \[10pt]
                (beta - gamma) (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & gamma - beta \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 0 \
                gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 0
                endvmatrix = \[10pt]
                - (beta - gamma)^2 (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha) & beginvmatrix
                3alpha^2 & beta + 2alpha & 1 \
                alpha + beta + gamma & 1 & 0 \
                gamma + 2alpha & 1 & 0
                endvmatrix = \[10pt]
                - (beta - gamma)^2 (gamma - alpha)^2 (beta - alpha)^2
                endalign*
                $$



                where the last $3 times 3$ determinant has been expanded along the $3$rd column.



                Since the determinant is the negative of the square of a product of real numbers, its maximum will be $0$, reached whenever any two of $alpha, beta, gamma in [-3,10]$ are equal.







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                    $begingroup$

                    Hint: The matrix is symmetric. You can use the Cholesky decomposition to rewrite the matrix $A$ as $A=LL^T$, in which $L$ is a lower triangular matrix. Then the determinant is $det A = det L det L^T = det^2 L$. Then $det L$ is given by the product of the diagonal elements of $L$ as it is a lower triangular matrix.






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                    • $begingroup$
                      Yeah, well, saying it is easy, but why don't you also do it? Finding $L$ doesn't seem to be easier that computing the determinant by brute force, so why bother, then?
                      $endgroup$
                      – Alex M.
                      Apr 30 at 14:17















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                    $begingroup$

                    Hint: The matrix is symmetric. You can use the Cholesky decomposition to rewrite the matrix $A$ as $A=LL^T$, in which $L$ is a lower triangular matrix. Then the determinant is $det A = det L det L^T = det^2 L$. Then $det L$ is given by the product of the diagonal elements of $L$ as it is a lower triangular matrix.






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                    • $begingroup$
                      Yeah, well, saying it is easy, but why don't you also do it? Finding $L$ doesn't seem to be easier that computing the determinant by brute force, so why bother, then?
                      $endgroup$
                      – Alex M.
                      Apr 30 at 14:17













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                    2





                    $begingroup$

                    Hint: The matrix is symmetric. You can use the Cholesky decomposition to rewrite the matrix $A$ as $A=LL^T$, in which $L$ is a lower triangular matrix. Then the determinant is $det A = det L det L^T = det^2 L$. Then $det L$ is given by the product of the diagonal elements of $L$ as it is a lower triangular matrix.






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                    $endgroup$



                    Hint: The matrix is symmetric. You can use the Cholesky decomposition to rewrite the matrix $A$ as $A=LL^T$, in which $L$ is a lower triangular matrix. Then the determinant is $det A = det L det L^T = det^2 L$. Then $det L$ is given by the product of the diagonal elements of $L$ as it is a lower triangular matrix.







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                    answered Apr 27 at 15:13









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                    • $begingroup$
                      Yeah, well, saying it is easy, but why don't you also do it? Finding $L$ doesn't seem to be easier that computing the determinant by brute force, so why bother, then?
                      $endgroup$
                      – Alex M.
                      Apr 30 at 14:17
















                    • $begingroup$
                      Yeah, well, saying it is easy, but why don't you also do it? Finding $L$ doesn't seem to be easier that computing the determinant by brute force, so why bother, then?
                      $endgroup$
                      – Alex M.
                      Apr 30 at 14:17















                    $begingroup$
                    Yeah, well, saying it is easy, but why don't you also do it? Finding $L$ doesn't seem to be easier that computing the determinant by brute force, so why bother, then?
                    $endgroup$
                    – Alex M.
                    Apr 30 at 14:17




                    $begingroup$
                    Yeah, well, saying it is easy, but why don't you also do it? Finding $L$ doesn't seem to be easier that computing the determinant by brute force, so why bother, then?
                    $endgroup$
                    – Alex M.
                    Apr 30 at 14:17

















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