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How did NASA Langley end up with the first 737?
When Boeing designed the 737NG, what factors influenced the change in the flap system?Why doesn't the 737 have a fuel dump nozzle?How is the 737 main landing gear protected from weather?Could the vertical stabilizer be removed on the NASA X-57?Was the 737-300's wing an early supercritical wing?How long is the training to get a Boeing 777 rating if one has a 737-200 rating?Why was F-18 chosen to escort Space Shuttle Endeavour?For the 737 Combi, How did changing the proportions of the passenger vs cargo areas work?How is the camera positioned for these plane-to-plane Schlieren images of shock waves?How difficult is it to simply disable/disengage the MCAS on Boeing 737 Max 8 & 9 Aircraft?
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This answer shows N515NA, CN/MSN: 19437 as an early 737, and mentions that it may be the first one.
Was this a special design built for NASA, or perhaps a prototype that nobody wanted for commercial use?
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Was this a special design built for NASA, or perhaps a prototype that nobody wanted for commercial use?
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This answer shows N515NA, CN/MSN: 19437 as an early 737, and mentions that it may be the first one.
Was this a special design built for NASA, or perhaps a prototype that nobody wanted for commercial use?
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This answer shows N515NA, CN/MSN: 19437 as an early 737, and mentions that it may be the first one.
Was this a special design built for NASA, or perhaps a prototype that nobody wanted for commercial use?
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NASA has lots of cool aircraft. They get them sometimes when they get to the end of their life/retired, sometimes they are custom built trainers, and sometimes they are used to test research projects. You can find the full history of that particular 737 here
NASA’s Boeing 737-100 Transport Systems Research Vehicle was the
prototype 737, acquired by the Langley Research Center in 1974 to
conduct research into advanced transport aircraft technologies.
...
The Boeing
737 was Langley's number one choice, however,
since it had a slightly wider fuselage and an
advanced, high-lift flap system. Money however, was extremely tight. The
market value of a used 737 in 1972 was about $3.5 million, but the
Boeing Company had one particular 737 that its sales people said they
might be willing to sell for substantially less."
...
Boeing had designated the prototype as PA-099: PA for Lufthansa, and
099 as the last one in a block of 100 aircraft numbers Boeing had
reserved for the airline. The prototype was never sold, however,
because it was only certified for experimental use. With all the
holes, wiring and other modifications that were made to the airplane
for certification tests, bringing it up to the standards of a
commercial transport airplane would have been too expensive. Boeing
used the airplane for a few additional flight tests and then simply
set it aside. '
In short, it was cheap, couldn't be used for commercial flight, and just what NASA needed. Chapter 2 in the above linked document covers the history in more depth and explains more of the nuances of the deal. To keep from copying the whole text I'll end it here.
edited May 21 at 21:45
Joshua
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answered May 21 at 2:10
DaveDave
71.1k4137255
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This will make for some very enjoyable reading; thank you for such a thorough answer!
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– uhoh
May 21 at 2:23
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Ch. 2 pg. 11, or pg. 22 in the linked document.
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– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:00
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Other interesting characteristics about this 737: it ending up costing NASA "only" $2.2 million, and it also included all of the technology that Boeing had created during its work on the USA's cancelled SST (supersonic transport) aircraft.
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– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:06
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The design was originally built for the military and Langley air-force base as Dave mentioned. It was then modified and given to NASA as the requested vehicle they needed. The ease of transfer was primarily due to NASA and Langley have been deeply connected, even since NASA was first formed. I cannot reveal all the details, but here is an example of someone who was connected to both Langley and the Apollo 11 astronauts: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/138018057/howard-mac-lane
There were many Langley engineers and staff that worked on expediting approval and modifying the 737 for NASA to use.
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NASA has lots of cool aircraft. They get them sometimes when they get to the end of their life/retired, sometimes they are custom built trainers, and sometimes they are used to test research projects. You can find the full history of that particular 737 here
NASA’s Boeing 737-100 Transport Systems Research Vehicle was the
prototype 737, acquired by the Langley Research Center in 1974 to
conduct research into advanced transport aircraft technologies.
...
The Boeing
737 was Langley's number one choice, however,
since it had a slightly wider fuselage and an
advanced, high-lift flap system. Money however, was extremely tight. The
market value of a used 737 in 1972 was about $3.5 million, but the
Boeing Company had one particular 737 that its sales people said they
might be willing to sell for substantially less."
...
Boeing had designated the prototype as PA-099: PA for Lufthansa, and
099 as the last one in a block of 100 aircraft numbers Boeing had
reserved for the airline. The prototype was never sold, however,
because it was only certified for experimental use. With all the
holes, wiring and other modifications that were made to the airplane
for certification tests, bringing it up to the standards of a
commercial transport airplane would have been too expensive. Boeing
used the airplane for a few additional flight tests and then simply
set it aside. '
In short, it was cheap, couldn't be used for commercial flight, and just what NASA needed. Chapter 2 in the above linked document covers the history in more depth and explains more of the nuances of the deal. To keep from copying the whole text I'll end it here.
edited May 21 at 21:45
Joshua
1297
answered May 21 at 2:10
DaveDave
71.1k4137255
$endgroup$
8
$begingroup$
This will make for some very enjoyable reading; thank you for such a thorough answer!
$endgroup$
– uhoh
May 21 at 2:23
1
$begingroup$
Ch. 2 pg. 11, or pg. 22 in the linked document.
$endgroup$
– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:00
2
$begingroup$
Other interesting characteristics about this 737: it ending up costing NASA "only" $2.2 million, and it also included all of the technology that Boeing had created during its work on the USA's cancelled SST (supersonic transport) aircraft.
$endgroup$
– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:06
add a comment |
$begingroup$
NASA has lots of cool aircraft. They get them sometimes when they get to the end of their life/retired, sometimes they are custom built trainers, and sometimes they are used to test research projects. You can find the full history of that particular 737 here
NASA’s Boeing 737-100 Transport Systems Research Vehicle was the
prototype 737, acquired by the Langley Research Center in 1974 to
conduct research into advanced transport aircraft technologies.
...
The Boeing
737 was Langley's number one choice, however,
since it had a slightly wider fuselage and an
advanced, high-lift flap system. Money however, was extremely tight. The
market value of a used 737 in 1972 was about $3.5 million, but the
Boeing Company had one particular 737 that its sales people said they
might be willing to sell for substantially less."
...
Boeing had designated the prototype as PA-099: PA for Lufthansa, and
099 as the last one in a block of 100 aircraft numbers Boeing had
reserved for the airline. The prototype was never sold, however,
because it was only certified for experimental use. With all the
holes, wiring and other modifications that were made to the airplane
for certification tests, bringing it up to the standards of a
commercial transport airplane would have been too expensive. Boeing
used the airplane for a few additional flight tests and then simply
set it aside. '
In short, it was cheap, couldn't be used for commercial flight, and just what NASA needed. Chapter 2 in the above linked document covers the history in more depth and explains more of the nuances of the deal. To keep from copying the whole text I'll end it here.
edited May 21 at 21:45
Joshua
1297
answered May 21 at 2:10
DaveDave
71.1k4137255
$endgroup$
8
$begingroup$
This will make for some very enjoyable reading; thank you for such a thorough answer!
$endgroup$
– uhoh
May 21 at 2:23
1
$begingroup$
Ch. 2 pg. 11, or pg. 22 in the linked document.
$endgroup$
– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:00
2
$begingroup$
Other interesting characteristics about this 737: it ending up costing NASA "only" $2.2 million, and it also included all of the technology that Boeing had created during its work on the USA's cancelled SST (supersonic transport) aircraft.
$endgroup$
– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:06
add a comment |
$begingroup$
NASA has lots of cool aircraft. They get them sometimes when they get to the end of their life/retired, sometimes they are custom built trainers, and sometimes they are used to test research projects. You can find the full history of that particular 737 here
NASA’s Boeing 737-100 Transport Systems Research Vehicle was the
prototype 737, acquired by the Langley Research Center in 1974 to
conduct research into advanced transport aircraft technologies.
...
The Boeing
737 was Langley's number one choice, however,
since it had a slightly wider fuselage and an
advanced, high-lift flap system. Money however, was extremely tight. The
market value of a used 737 in 1972 was about $3.5 million, but the
Boeing Company had one particular 737 that its sales people said they
might be willing to sell for substantially less."
...
Boeing had designated the prototype as PA-099: PA for Lufthansa, and
099 as the last one in a block of 100 aircraft numbers Boeing had
reserved for the airline. The prototype was never sold, however,
because it was only certified for experimental use. With all the
holes, wiring and other modifications that were made to the airplane
for certification tests, bringing it up to the standards of a
commercial transport airplane would have been too expensive. Boeing
used the airplane for a few additional flight tests and then simply
set it aside. '
In short, it was cheap, couldn't be used for commercial flight, and just what NASA needed. Chapter 2 in the above linked document covers the history in more depth and explains more of the nuances of the deal. To keep from copying the whole text I'll end it here.
edited May 21 at 21:45
Joshua
1297
answered May 21 at 2:10
DaveDave
71.1k4137255
$endgroup$
NASA has lots of cool aircraft. They get them sometimes when they get to the end of their life/retired, sometimes they are custom built trainers, and sometimes they are used to test research projects. You can find the full history of that particular 737 here
NASA’s Boeing 737-100 Transport Systems Research Vehicle was the
prototype 737, acquired by the Langley Research Center in 1974 to
conduct research into advanced transport aircraft technologies.
...
The Boeing
737 was Langley's number one choice, however,
since it had a slightly wider fuselage and an
advanced, high-lift flap system. Money however, was extremely tight. The
market value of a used 737 in 1972 was about $3.5 million, but the
Boeing Company had one particular 737 that its sales people said they
might be willing to sell for substantially less."
...
Boeing had designated the prototype as PA-099: PA for Lufthansa, and
099 as the last one in a block of 100 aircraft numbers Boeing had
reserved for the airline. The prototype was never sold, however,
because it was only certified for experimental use. With all the
holes, wiring and other modifications that were made to the airplane
for certification tests, bringing it up to the standards of a
commercial transport airplane would have been too expensive. Boeing
used the airplane for a few additional flight tests and then simply
set it aside. '
In short, it was cheap, couldn't be used for commercial flight, and just what NASA needed. Chapter 2 in the above linked document covers the history in more depth and explains more of the nuances of the deal. To keep from copying the whole text I'll end it here.
edited May 21 at 21:45
Joshua
1297
answered May 21 at 2:10
DaveDave
71.1k4137255
edited May 21 at 21:45
Joshua
1297
edited May 21 at 21:45
Joshua
1297
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Joshua
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1297
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DaveDave
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DaveDave
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This will make for some very enjoyable reading; thank you for such a thorough answer!
$endgroup$
– uhoh
May 21 at 2:23
1
$begingroup$
Ch. 2 pg. 11, or pg. 22 in the linked document.
$endgroup$
– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:00
2
$begingroup$
Other interesting characteristics about this 737: it ending up costing NASA "only" $2.2 million, and it also included all of the technology that Boeing had created during its work on the USA's cancelled SST (supersonic transport) aircraft.
$endgroup$
– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:06
add a comment |
8
$begingroup$
This will make for some very enjoyable reading; thank you for such a thorough answer!
$endgroup$
– uhoh
May 21 at 2:23
1
$begingroup$
Ch. 2 pg. 11, or pg. 22 in the linked document.
$endgroup$
– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:00
2
$begingroup$
Other interesting characteristics about this 737: it ending up costing NASA "only" $2.2 million, and it also included all of the technology that Boeing had created during its work on the USA's cancelled SST (supersonic transport) aircraft.
$endgroup$
– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:06
8
8
$begingroup$
This will make for some very enjoyable reading; thank you for such a thorough answer!
$endgroup$
– uhoh
May 21 at 2:23
$begingroup$
This will make for some very enjoyable reading; thank you for such a thorough answer!
$endgroup$
– uhoh
May 21 at 2:23
1
1
$begingroup$
Ch. 2 pg. 11, or pg. 22 in the linked document.
$endgroup$
– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:00
$begingroup$
Ch. 2 pg. 11, or pg. 22 in the linked document.
$endgroup$
– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:00
2
2
$begingroup$
Other interesting characteristics about this 737: it ending up costing NASA "only" $2.2 million, and it also included all of the technology that Boeing had created during its work on the USA's cancelled SST (supersonic transport) aircraft.
$endgroup$
– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:06
$begingroup$
Other interesting characteristics about this 737: it ending up costing NASA "only" $2.2 million, and it also included all of the technology that Boeing had created during its work on the USA's cancelled SST (supersonic transport) aircraft.
$endgroup$
– Ian Kemp
May 23 at 10:06
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The design was originally built for the military and Langley air-force base as Dave mentioned. It was then modified and given to NASA as the requested vehicle they needed. The ease of transfer was primarily due to NASA and Langley have been deeply connected, even since NASA was first formed. I cannot reveal all the details, but here is an example of someone who was connected to both Langley and the Apollo 11 astronauts: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/138018057/howard-mac-lane
There were many Langley engineers and staff that worked on expediting approval and modifying the 737 for NASA to use.
answered May 22 at 18:02
mlanemlane
612
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The design was originally built for the military and Langley air-force base as Dave mentioned. It was then modified and given to NASA as the requested vehicle they needed. The ease of transfer was primarily due to NASA and Langley have been deeply connected, even since NASA was first formed. I cannot reveal all the details, but here is an example of someone who was connected to both Langley and the Apollo 11 astronauts: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/138018057/howard-mac-lane
There were many Langley engineers and staff that worked on expediting approval and modifying the 737 for NASA to use.
answered May 22 at 18:02
mlanemlane
612
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The design was originally built for the military and Langley air-force base as Dave mentioned. It was then modified and given to NASA as the requested vehicle they needed. The ease of transfer was primarily due to NASA and Langley have been deeply connected, even since NASA was first formed. I cannot reveal all the details, but here is an example of someone who was connected to both Langley and the Apollo 11 astronauts: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/138018057/howard-mac-lane
There were many Langley engineers and staff that worked on expediting approval and modifying the 737 for NASA to use.
answered May 22 at 18:02
mlanemlane
612
$endgroup$
The design was originally built for the military and Langley air-force base as Dave mentioned. It was then modified and given to NASA as the requested vehicle they needed. The ease of transfer was primarily due to NASA and Langley have been deeply connected, even since NASA was first formed. I cannot reveal all the details, but here is an example of someone who was connected to both Langley and the Apollo 11 astronauts: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/138018057/howard-mac-lane
There were many Langley engineers and staff that worked on expediting approval and modifying the 737 for NASA to use.
answered May 22 at 18:02
mlanemlane
612
edited May 22 at 18:08
answered May 22 at 18:02
mlanemlane
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