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Hard limit involving different order radicals $lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n )$
Two limit questions involving radicalsLimit tends to infinity $lim_x to inftysqrtx^2+x+2sqrtx^2+2x-x$Find the value of : $lim_xtoinftysqrtx+sqrtx+sqrtx+sqrtx-sqrtx$Find the limit $lim_x to infty(a^x+b^x-c^x)^frac1x$evaluating this limit: $lim_ntoinftysum_k=0^nfracaak+n$Calculate this limit : $lim_x rightarrow -infty -x-sqrt[3]-x^3-x$Calculate this limit : $lim_x to infty fracsqrtx+sqrt[4]xsqrt[3]x+sqrt[6]x$Calculate $lim_nto infty(n+1)^frac1sqrtn$Calculate limit of $lim_n to infty4sqrtn+3-sqrtn-1-5sqrtn+7+2sqrtn-3$How to find $ lim_xto 2 fracx-sqrtx+2sqrt4x+1 -3 $ without derivatives and l'Hopital?
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Please help me to calculate the following limit
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n )$$
I factored out $n$ from both radicals but it didn't work and tried to use the identity $a^2-b^2$ and $a^3-b^3$.
calculus limits radicals limits-without-lhopital
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Please help me to calculate the following limit
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n )$$
I factored out $n$ from both radicals but it didn't work and tried to use the identity $a^2-b^2$ and $a^3-b^3$.
calculus limits radicals limits-without-lhopital
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What have you tried?
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– Robert Shore
May 21 at 0:19
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I factored out n from both radicals but it didn't work and tried to use the identity a^2-b^2 and a^3-b^3.
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– Andrei Umbriță
May 21 at 0:21
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Please edit your question to indicate your attempts (rather than putting that information in the comments). Your question is much more likely to get a positive reception if you do so. We are sensitive to people simply showing up and asking a question without any indication they've put effort into finding the solution for themselves.
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– Robert Shore
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are you familiar with binomial series?
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– J. W. Tanner
May 21 at 0:27
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Yes, but I would like to see an answer without these or approximations.
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Please help me to calculate the following limit
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n )$$
I factored out $n$ from both radicals but it didn't work and tried to use the identity $a^2-b^2$ and $a^3-b^3$.
calculus limits radicals limits-without-lhopital
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Please help me to calculate the following limit
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n )$$
I factored out $n$ from both radicals but it didn't work and tried to use the identity $a^2-b^2$ and $a^3-b^3$.
calculus limits radicals limits-without-lhopital
calculus limits radicals limits-without-lhopital
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I factored out n from both radicals but it didn't work and tried to use the identity a^2-b^2 and a^3-b^3.
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– Andrei Umbriță
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Please edit your question to indicate your attempts (rather than putting that information in the comments). Your question is much more likely to get a positive reception if you do so. We are sensitive to people simply showing up and asking a question without any indication they've put effort into finding the solution for themselves.
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– Robert Shore
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are you familiar with binomial series?
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I factored out n from both radicals but it didn't work and tried to use the identity a^2-b^2 and a^3-b^3.
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– Andrei Umbriță
May 21 at 0:21
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Please edit your question to indicate your attempts (rather than putting that information in the comments). Your question is much more likely to get a positive reception if you do so. We are sensitive to people simply showing up and asking a question without any indication they've put effort into finding the solution for themselves.
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– Robert Shore
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are you familiar with binomial series?
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– J. W. Tanner
May 21 at 0:27
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Yes, but I would like to see an answer without these or approximations.
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– Andrei Umbriță
May 21 at 0:28
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– Robert Shore
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What have you tried?
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– Robert Shore
May 21 at 0:19
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I factored out n from both radicals but it didn't work and tried to use the identity a^2-b^2 and a^3-b^3.
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– Andrei Umbriță
May 21 at 0:21
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I factored out n from both radicals but it didn't work and tried to use the identity a^2-b^2 and a^3-b^3.
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– Andrei Umbriță
May 21 at 0:21
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– Robert Shore
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are you familiar with binomial series?
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– J. W. Tanner
May 21 at 0:27
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are you familiar with binomial series?
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– J. W. Tanner
May 21 at 0:27
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Yes, but I would like to see an answer without these or approximations.
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– Andrei Umbriță
May 21 at 0:28
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For this type of problem,
my preferred weapon
is the generalized binomial theorem
in the form
$(1+x)^a
=1+ax+a(a-1)x^2/2+O(x^3)
$.
Often the simpler form
$(1+x)^a
=1+ax+O(x^2)
$
is enough.
So,
$beginarray\
sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n
&=nsqrt[3]1+3/n-nsqrt1+2/n\
&=n(1+(3/n)(1/3)+O(1/n^2))-n(1+(2/n)(1/2)+O(1/n^2))\
&=n(1+1/n+O(1/n^2))-n(1+1/n+O(1/n^2))\
&=n+1+O(1/n)-n-1-O(1/n)\
&=O(1/n)\
&to 0
qquadtextas n to infty\
endarray
$
Note that
if what was wanted
was $n$ times the difference,
the additional term in the expansion
would have been needed.
You might try this
for practice.
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by "difference", did you mean the case in Riemann's answer? is that rigorous?
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– farruhota
May 21 at 6:29
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Yes and yes. The additional term will give the 1/2n result.
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– marty cohen
May 21 at 15:10
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without the additional term it is indeterminate $0/0$, isn't it? Thank you. +1
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– farruhota
May 21 at 15:24
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No. It comes to O(1).
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May 21 at 16:43
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which is not demonstrated, $=fracsqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)frac1n$ with $sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1 sim frac1n,sqrt1+frac2n-1sim frac1n$ are not sufficient, aren't they?
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Another way to solve the problem is the following, where no Differential Calculus is needed.
By elementary algebraic manipulation of radicals, you get:
$$ beginsplit sqrt[3]n^3 + 3n^2 - sqrtn^2 + 2n &= underbracesqrt[6](n^3 + 3n^2)^2_=:sqrt[6]a - underbracesqrt[6](n^2 + 2n)^3_=:sqrt[6]b \ & = fraca - bsqrt[6]a^5 + sqrt[6]a^4b + sqrt[6]a^3b^2 + sqrt[6]a^2b^3 + sqrt[6]ab^4 + sqrt[6]b^5 \ &approx frac-3n^46n^5 \ &= - frac12n endsplit $$
with the latter member going to $0$ as $n to infty$.
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First let's get rid of the square root:
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3-3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n)=lim_n to infty fracsqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2-(n^2+2n)sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n\= -lim_n to infty fracn^2+2n-sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n.$$
Now let's get rid of the cube root:
$$-lim_n to infty fracn^2+2n-sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n$$
$$=-lim_n to infty frac(n^2+2n)^3-(n^3+3n^2)^2(sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n)((n^2+2n)^2+(n^2+2n)sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2+sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^4).$$
The numerator yields $-3n^4$ and a bunch of lower-order terms, and the denominator yields $6n^5$ and a bunch of lower order terms, so dividing numerator and denominator by $n^5$ shows that the answer is $0$.
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Use the following fact: when $xto 0$,
$$(1+x)^alpha-1simalpha x.$$
So
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n=nleft(sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)right)$$
$$=fracsqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)frac1n,$$
use the above fact:
$$sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1 sim frac1n,sqrt1+frac2n-1sim frac1n,$$
and this implies
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n )=0.$$
In fact:
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2nsim -frac12n,ntoinfty.$$
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For positive $n$, let $a=sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2$, and let $b=sqrtn^2+2n$.
Note that $a < n+1$ and
beginalign*
3n +1 &= (n+1)^3-a^3\[4pt]
&= bigl((n+1)-abigr)bigl((n+1)^2+a(n+1)+a^2)\[4pt]
&> bigl((n+1)-abigr)(n+1)^2\[4pt]
endalign*
hence $0 < n+1-a < largefrac3n+1(n+1)^2$, which implies $displaystylelim_nto infty;(n+1)-a = 0$.
Also, $b < n+1$ and
beginalign*
1&=(n+1)^2-b^2\[4pt]
&= bigl((n+1)-bbigr)bigl((n+1)+bbigr)\[4pt]
&> bigl((n+1)-bbigr)(n+1)\[4pt]
endalign*
hence $0 < (n+1)-b < largefrac1n+1$, which implies $displaystylelim_nto infty;(n+1)-b = 0$.
Then we get
$$lim_nto infty;a-b = lim_nto infty;bigl(a - (n+1)bigr) + bigl((n+1)-bbigr) = 0 + 0 = 0$$
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Ok, I edited my answer to match your edited question.
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There is a way to use directly the two binomial formulas you mentioned. It only needs a little trick:
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n = sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2colorblue-n + n-sqrtn^2+2n$$
Now, consider
begineqnarray* sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-n
& stackreln=sqrt[3]n^3= & fracn^3+3n^2 - n^3(sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2)^2 + nsqrt[3]n^3+3n^2+ n^2\& = & frac3left(sqrt[3]1+frac3nright)^2 + sqrt[3]1+frac3n + 1\
& stackreln to inftylongrightarrow & 1
endeqnarray*
Similarly, you get $n - sqrtn^2+2n stackreln to inftylongrightarrow -1$.
Hence, you get
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n ) = lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-n ) + lim_n to infty (n-sqrtn^2+2n ) = 1-1 = 0$$
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For this type of problem,
my preferred weapon
is the generalized binomial theorem
in the form
$(1+x)^a
=1+ax+a(a-1)x^2/2+O(x^3)
$.
Often the simpler form
$(1+x)^a
=1+ax+O(x^2)
$
is enough.
So,
$beginarray\
sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n
&=nsqrt[3]1+3/n-nsqrt1+2/n\
&=n(1+(3/n)(1/3)+O(1/n^2))-n(1+(2/n)(1/2)+O(1/n^2))\
&=n(1+1/n+O(1/n^2))-n(1+1/n+O(1/n^2))\
&=n+1+O(1/n)-n-1-O(1/n)\
&=O(1/n)\
&to 0
qquadtextas n to infty\
endarray
$
Note that
if what was wanted
was $n$ times the difference,
the additional term in the expansion
would have been needed.
You might try this
for practice.
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by "difference", did you mean the case in Riemann's answer? is that rigorous?
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– farruhota
May 21 at 6:29
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Yes and yes. The additional term will give the 1/2n result.
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– marty cohen
May 21 at 15:10
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without the additional term it is indeterminate $0/0$, isn't it? Thank you. +1
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– farruhota
May 21 at 15:24
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No. It comes to O(1).
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– marty cohen
May 21 at 16:43
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which is not demonstrated, $=fracsqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)frac1n$ with $sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1 sim frac1n,sqrt1+frac2n-1sim frac1n$ are not sufficient, aren't they?
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– farruhota
May 21 at 17:50
add a comment |
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For this type of problem,
my preferred weapon
is the generalized binomial theorem
in the form
$(1+x)^a
=1+ax+a(a-1)x^2/2+O(x^3)
$.
Often the simpler form
$(1+x)^a
=1+ax+O(x^2)
$
is enough.
So,
$beginarray\
sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n
&=nsqrt[3]1+3/n-nsqrt1+2/n\
&=n(1+(3/n)(1/3)+O(1/n^2))-n(1+(2/n)(1/2)+O(1/n^2))\
&=n(1+1/n+O(1/n^2))-n(1+1/n+O(1/n^2))\
&=n+1+O(1/n)-n-1-O(1/n)\
&=O(1/n)\
&to 0
qquadtextas n to infty\
endarray
$
Note that
if what was wanted
was $n$ times the difference,
the additional term in the expansion
would have been needed.
You might try this
for practice.
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by "difference", did you mean the case in Riemann's answer? is that rigorous?
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– farruhota
May 21 at 6:29
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Yes and yes. The additional term will give the 1/2n result.
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– marty cohen
May 21 at 15:10
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without the additional term it is indeterminate $0/0$, isn't it? Thank you. +1
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– farruhota
May 21 at 15:24
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No. It comes to O(1).
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– marty cohen
May 21 at 16:43
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which is not demonstrated, $=fracsqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)frac1n$ with $sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1 sim frac1n,sqrt1+frac2n-1sim frac1n$ are not sufficient, aren't they?
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– farruhota
May 21 at 17:50
add a comment |
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For this type of problem,
my preferred weapon
is the generalized binomial theorem
in the form
$(1+x)^a
=1+ax+a(a-1)x^2/2+O(x^3)
$.
Often the simpler form
$(1+x)^a
=1+ax+O(x^2)
$
is enough.
So,
$beginarray\
sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n
&=nsqrt[3]1+3/n-nsqrt1+2/n\
&=n(1+(3/n)(1/3)+O(1/n^2))-n(1+(2/n)(1/2)+O(1/n^2))\
&=n(1+1/n+O(1/n^2))-n(1+1/n+O(1/n^2))\
&=n+1+O(1/n)-n-1-O(1/n)\
&=O(1/n)\
&to 0
qquadtextas n to infty\
endarray
$
Note that
if what was wanted
was $n$ times the difference,
the additional term in the expansion
would have been needed.
You might try this
for practice.
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For this type of problem,
my preferred weapon
is the generalized binomial theorem
in the form
$(1+x)^a
=1+ax+a(a-1)x^2/2+O(x^3)
$.
Often the simpler form
$(1+x)^a
=1+ax+O(x^2)
$
is enough.
So,
$beginarray\
sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n
&=nsqrt[3]1+3/n-nsqrt1+2/n\
&=n(1+(3/n)(1/3)+O(1/n^2))-n(1+(2/n)(1/2)+O(1/n^2))\
&=n(1+1/n+O(1/n^2))-n(1+1/n+O(1/n^2))\
&=n+1+O(1/n)-n-1-O(1/n)\
&=O(1/n)\
&to 0
qquadtextas n to infty\
endarray
$
Note that
if what was wanted
was $n$ times the difference,
the additional term in the expansion
would have been needed.
You might try this
for practice.
answered May 21 at 1:28
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by "difference", did you mean the case in Riemann's answer? is that rigorous?
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– farruhota
May 21 at 6:29
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Yes and yes. The additional term will give the 1/2n result.
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– marty cohen
May 21 at 15:10
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without the additional term it is indeterminate $0/0$, isn't it? Thank you. +1
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– farruhota
May 21 at 15:24
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No. It comes to O(1).
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– marty cohen
May 21 at 16:43
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which is not demonstrated, $=fracsqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)frac1n$ with $sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1 sim frac1n,sqrt1+frac2n-1sim frac1n$ are not sufficient, aren't they?
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– farruhota
May 21 at 17:50
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by "difference", did you mean the case in Riemann's answer? is that rigorous?
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– farruhota
May 21 at 6:29
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Yes and yes. The additional term will give the 1/2n result.
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– marty cohen
May 21 at 15:10
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without the additional term it is indeterminate $0/0$, isn't it? Thank you. +1
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– farruhota
May 21 at 15:24
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No. It comes to O(1).
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May 21 at 16:43
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which is not demonstrated, $=fracsqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)frac1n$ with $sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1 sim frac1n,sqrt1+frac2n-1sim frac1n$ are not sufficient, aren't they?
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– farruhota
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by "difference", did you mean the case in Riemann's answer? is that rigorous?
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– farruhota
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by "difference", did you mean the case in Riemann's answer? is that rigorous?
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– farruhota
May 21 at 6:29
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Yes and yes. The additional term will give the 1/2n result.
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– marty cohen
May 21 at 15:10
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Yes and yes. The additional term will give the 1/2n result.
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– marty cohen
May 21 at 15:10
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without the additional term it is indeterminate $0/0$, isn't it? Thank you. +1
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– farruhota
May 21 at 15:24
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without the additional term it is indeterminate $0/0$, isn't it? Thank you. +1
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– farruhota
May 21 at 15:24
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No. It comes to O(1).
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– marty cohen
May 21 at 16:43
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No. It comes to O(1).
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– marty cohen
May 21 at 16:43
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which is not demonstrated, $=fracsqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)frac1n$ with $sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1 sim frac1n,sqrt1+frac2n-1sim frac1n$ are not sufficient, aren't they?
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which is not demonstrated, $=fracsqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)frac1n$ with $sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1 sim frac1n,sqrt1+frac2n-1sim frac1n$ are not sufficient, aren't they?
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Another way to solve the problem is the following, where no Differential Calculus is needed.
By elementary algebraic manipulation of radicals, you get:
$$ beginsplit sqrt[3]n^3 + 3n^2 - sqrtn^2 + 2n &= underbracesqrt[6](n^3 + 3n^2)^2_=:sqrt[6]a - underbracesqrt[6](n^2 + 2n)^3_=:sqrt[6]b \ & = fraca - bsqrt[6]a^5 + sqrt[6]a^4b + sqrt[6]a^3b^2 + sqrt[6]a^2b^3 + sqrt[6]ab^4 + sqrt[6]b^5 \ &approx frac-3n^46n^5 \ &= - frac12n endsplit $$
with the latter member going to $0$ as $n to infty$.
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Another way to solve the problem is the following, where no Differential Calculus is needed.
By elementary algebraic manipulation of radicals, you get:
$$ beginsplit sqrt[3]n^3 + 3n^2 - sqrtn^2 + 2n &= underbracesqrt[6](n^3 + 3n^2)^2_=:sqrt[6]a - underbracesqrt[6](n^2 + 2n)^3_=:sqrt[6]b \ & = fraca - bsqrt[6]a^5 + sqrt[6]a^4b + sqrt[6]a^3b^2 + sqrt[6]a^2b^3 + sqrt[6]ab^4 + sqrt[6]b^5 \ &approx frac-3n^46n^5 \ &= - frac12n endsplit $$
with the latter member going to $0$ as $n to infty$.
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Another way to solve the problem is the following, where no Differential Calculus is needed.
By elementary algebraic manipulation of radicals, you get:
$$ beginsplit sqrt[3]n^3 + 3n^2 - sqrtn^2 + 2n &= underbracesqrt[6](n^3 + 3n^2)^2_=:sqrt[6]a - underbracesqrt[6](n^2 + 2n)^3_=:sqrt[6]b \ & = fraca - bsqrt[6]a^5 + sqrt[6]a^4b + sqrt[6]a^3b^2 + sqrt[6]a^2b^3 + sqrt[6]ab^4 + sqrt[6]b^5 \ &approx frac-3n^46n^5 \ &= - frac12n endsplit $$
with the latter member going to $0$ as $n to infty$.
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Another way to solve the problem is the following, where no Differential Calculus is needed.
By elementary algebraic manipulation of radicals, you get:
$$ beginsplit sqrt[3]n^3 + 3n^2 - sqrtn^2 + 2n &= underbracesqrt[6](n^3 + 3n^2)^2_=:sqrt[6]a - underbracesqrt[6](n^2 + 2n)^3_=:sqrt[6]b \ & = fraca - bsqrt[6]a^5 + sqrt[6]a^4b + sqrt[6]a^3b^2 + sqrt[6]a^2b^3 + sqrt[6]ab^4 + sqrt[6]b^5 \ &approx frac-3n^46n^5 \ &= - frac12n endsplit $$
with the latter member going to $0$ as $n to infty$.
edited May 21 at 6:22
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First let's get rid of the square root:
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3-3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n)=lim_n to infty fracsqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2-(n^2+2n)sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n\= -lim_n to infty fracn^2+2n-sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n.$$
Now let's get rid of the cube root:
$$-lim_n to infty fracn^2+2n-sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n$$
$$=-lim_n to infty frac(n^2+2n)^3-(n^3+3n^2)^2(sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n)((n^2+2n)^2+(n^2+2n)sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2+sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^4).$$
The numerator yields $-3n^4$ and a bunch of lower-order terms, and the denominator yields $6n^5$ and a bunch of lower order terms, so dividing numerator and denominator by $n^5$ shows that the answer is $0$.
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First let's get rid of the square root:
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3-3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n)=lim_n to infty fracsqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2-(n^2+2n)sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n\= -lim_n to infty fracn^2+2n-sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n.$$
Now let's get rid of the cube root:
$$-lim_n to infty fracn^2+2n-sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n$$
$$=-lim_n to infty frac(n^2+2n)^3-(n^3+3n^2)^2(sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n)((n^2+2n)^2+(n^2+2n)sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2+sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^4).$$
The numerator yields $-3n^4$ and a bunch of lower-order terms, and the denominator yields $6n^5$ and a bunch of lower order terms, so dividing numerator and denominator by $n^5$ shows that the answer is $0$.
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First let's get rid of the square root:
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3-3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n)=lim_n to infty fracsqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2-(n^2+2n)sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n\= -lim_n to infty fracn^2+2n-sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n.$$
Now let's get rid of the cube root:
$$-lim_n to infty fracn^2+2n-sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n$$
$$=-lim_n to infty frac(n^2+2n)^3-(n^3+3n^2)^2(sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n)((n^2+2n)^2+(n^2+2n)sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2+sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^4).$$
The numerator yields $-3n^4$ and a bunch of lower-order terms, and the denominator yields $6n^5$ and a bunch of lower order terms, so dividing numerator and denominator by $n^5$ shows that the answer is $0$.
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First let's get rid of the square root:
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3-3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n)=lim_n to infty fracsqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2-(n^2+2n)sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n\= -lim_n to infty fracn^2+2n-sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n.$$
Now let's get rid of the cube root:
$$-lim_n to infty fracn^2+2n-sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n$$
$$=-lim_n to infty frac(n^2+2n)^3-(n^3+3n^2)^2(sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)+sqrtn^2+2n)((n^2+2n)^2+(n^2+2n)sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^2+sqrt[3](n^3+3n^2)^4).$$
The numerator yields $-3n^4$ and a bunch of lower-order terms, and the denominator yields $6n^5$ and a bunch of lower order terms, so dividing numerator and denominator by $n^5$ shows that the answer is $0$.
edited May 21 at 1:34
answered May 21 at 1:23
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Use the following fact: when $xto 0$,
$$(1+x)^alpha-1simalpha x.$$
So
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n=nleft(sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)right)$$
$$=fracsqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)frac1n,$$
use the above fact:
$$sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1 sim frac1n,sqrt1+frac2n-1sim frac1n,$$
and this implies
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n )=0.$$
In fact:
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2nsim -frac12n,ntoinfty.$$
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Use the following fact: when $xto 0$,
$$(1+x)^alpha-1simalpha x.$$
So
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n=nleft(sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)right)$$
$$=fracsqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)frac1n,$$
use the above fact:
$$sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1 sim frac1n,sqrt1+frac2n-1sim frac1n,$$
and this implies
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n )=0.$$
In fact:
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2nsim -frac12n,ntoinfty.$$
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Use the following fact: when $xto 0$,
$$(1+x)^alpha-1simalpha x.$$
So
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n=nleft(sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)right)$$
$$=fracsqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)frac1n,$$
use the above fact:
$$sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1 sim frac1n,sqrt1+frac2n-1sim frac1n,$$
and this implies
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n )=0.$$
In fact:
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2nsim -frac12n,ntoinfty.$$
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Use the following fact: when $xto 0$,
$$(1+x)^alpha-1simalpha x.$$
So
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n=nleft(sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)right)$$
$$=fracsqrt[3]1+frac3n-1-left(sqrt1+frac2n-1right)frac1n,$$
use the above fact:
$$sqrt[3]1+frac3n-1 sim frac1n,sqrt1+frac2n-1sim frac1n,$$
and this implies
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n )=0.$$
In fact:
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2nsim -frac12n,ntoinfty.$$
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For positive $n$, let $a=sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2$, and let $b=sqrtn^2+2n$.
Note that $a < n+1$ and
beginalign*
3n +1 &= (n+1)^3-a^3\[4pt]
&= bigl((n+1)-abigr)bigl((n+1)^2+a(n+1)+a^2)\[4pt]
&> bigl((n+1)-abigr)(n+1)^2\[4pt]
endalign*
hence $0 < n+1-a < largefrac3n+1(n+1)^2$, which implies $displaystylelim_nto infty;(n+1)-a = 0$.
Also, $b < n+1$ and
beginalign*
1&=(n+1)^2-b^2\[4pt]
&= bigl((n+1)-bbigr)bigl((n+1)+bbigr)\[4pt]
&> bigl((n+1)-bbigr)(n+1)\[4pt]
endalign*
hence $0 < (n+1)-b < largefrac1n+1$, which implies $displaystylelim_nto infty;(n+1)-b = 0$.
Then we get
$$lim_nto infty;a-b = lim_nto infty;bigl(a - (n+1)bigr) + bigl((n+1)-bbigr) = 0 + 0 = 0$$
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– Nosrati
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Ok, I edited my answer to match your edited question.
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For positive $n$, let $a=sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2$, and let $b=sqrtn^2+2n$.
Note that $a < n+1$ and
beginalign*
3n +1 &= (n+1)^3-a^3\[4pt]
&= bigl((n+1)-abigr)bigl((n+1)^2+a(n+1)+a^2)\[4pt]
&> bigl((n+1)-abigr)(n+1)^2\[4pt]
endalign*
hence $0 < n+1-a < largefrac3n+1(n+1)^2$, which implies $displaystylelim_nto infty;(n+1)-a = 0$.
Also, $b < n+1$ and
beginalign*
1&=(n+1)^2-b^2\[4pt]
&= bigl((n+1)-bbigr)bigl((n+1)+bbigr)\[4pt]
&> bigl((n+1)-bbigr)(n+1)\[4pt]
endalign*
hence $0 < (n+1)-b < largefrac1n+1$, which implies $displaystylelim_nto infty;(n+1)-b = 0$.
Then we get
$$lim_nto infty;a-b = lim_nto infty;bigl(a - (n+1)bigr) + bigl((n+1)-bbigr) = 0 + 0 = 0$$
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The question has changed.
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– Nosrati
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Ok, I edited my answer to match your edited question.
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For positive $n$, let $a=sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2$, and let $b=sqrtn^2+2n$.
Note that $a < n+1$ and
beginalign*
3n +1 &= (n+1)^3-a^3\[4pt]
&= bigl((n+1)-abigr)bigl((n+1)^2+a(n+1)+a^2)\[4pt]
&> bigl((n+1)-abigr)(n+1)^2\[4pt]
endalign*
hence $0 < n+1-a < largefrac3n+1(n+1)^2$, which implies $displaystylelim_nto infty;(n+1)-a = 0$.
Also, $b < n+1$ and
beginalign*
1&=(n+1)^2-b^2\[4pt]
&= bigl((n+1)-bbigr)bigl((n+1)+bbigr)\[4pt]
&> bigl((n+1)-bbigr)(n+1)\[4pt]
endalign*
hence $0 < (n+1)-b < largefrac1n+1$, which implies $displaystylelim_nto infty;(n+1)-b = 0$.
Then we get
$$lim_nto infty;a-b = lim_nto infty;bigl(a - (n+1)bigr) + bigl((n+1)-bbigr) = 0 + 0 = 0$$
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For positive $n$, let $a=sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2$, and let $b=sqrtn^2+2n$.
Note that $a < n+1$ and
beginalign*
3n +1 &= (n+1)^3-a^3\[4pt]
&= bigl((n+1)-abigr)bigl((n+1)^2+a(n+1)+a^2)\[4pt]
&> bigl((n+1)-abigr)(n+1)^2\[4pt]
endalign*
hence $0 < n+1-a < largefrac3n+1(n+1)^2$, which implies $displaystylelim_nto infty;(n+1)-a = 0$.
Also, $b < n+1$ and
beginalign*
1&=(n+1)^2-b^2\[4pt]
&= bigl((n+1)-bbigr)bigl((n+1)+bbigr)\[4pt]
&> bigl((n+1)-bbigr)(n+1)\[4pt]
endalign*
hence $0 < (n+1)-b < largefrac1n+1$, which implies $displaystylelim_nto infty;(n+1)-b = 0$.
Then we get
$$lim_nto infty;a-b = lim_nto infty;bigl(a - (n+1)bigr) + bigl((n+1)-bbigr) = 0 + 0 = 0$$
edited May 21 at 1:18
answered May 21 at 0:50
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Ok, I edited my answer to match your edited question.
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Ok, I edited my answer to match your edited question.
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The question has changed.
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The question has changed.
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Ok, I edited my answer to match your edited question.
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There is a way to use directly the two binomial formulas you mentioned. It only needs a little trick:
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n = sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2colorblue-n + n-sqrtn^2+2n$$
Now, consider
begineqnarray* sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-n
& stackreln=sqrt[3]n^3= & fracn^3+3n^2 - n^3(sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2)^2 + nsqrt[3]n^3+3n^2+ n^2\& = & frac3left(sqrt[3]1+frac3nright)^2 + sqrt[3]1+frac3n + 1\
& stackreln to inftylongrightarrow & 1
endeqnarray*
Similarly, you get $n - sqrtn^2+2n stackreln to inftylongrightarrow -1$.
Hence, you get
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n ) = lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-n ) + lim_n to infty (n-sqrtn^2+2n ) = 1-1 = 0$$
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There is a way to use directly the two binomial formulas you mentioned. It only needs a little trick:
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n = sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2colorblue-n + n-sqrtn^2+2n$$
Now, consider
begineqnarray* sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-n
& stackreln=sqrt[3]n^3= & fracn^3+3n^2 - n^3(sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2)^2 + nsqrt[3]n^3+3n^2+ n^2\& = & frac3left(sqrt[3]1+frac3nright)^2 + sqrt[3]1+frac3n + 1\
& stackreln to inftylongrightarrow & 1
endeqnarray*
Similarly, you get $n - sqrtn^2+2n stackreln to inftylongrightarrow -1$.
Hence, you get
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n ) = lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-n ) + lim_n to infty (n-sqrtn^2+2n ) = 1-1 = 0$$
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There is a way to use directly the two binomial formulas you mentioned. It only needs a little trick:
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n = sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2colorblue-n + n-sqrtn^2+2n$$
Now, consider
begineqnarray* sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-n
& stackreln=sqrt[3]n^3= & fracn^3+3n^2 - n^3(sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2)^2 + nsqrt[3]n^3+3n^2+ n^2\& = & frac3left(sqrt[3]1+frac3nright)^2 + sqrt[3]1+frac3n + 1\
& stackreln to inftylongrightarrow & 1
endeqnarray*
Similarly, you get $n - sqrtn^2+2n stackreln to inftylongrightarrow -1$.
Hence, you get
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n ) = lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-n ) + lim_n to infty (n-sqrtn^2+2n ) = 1-1 = 0$$
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There is a way to use directly the two binomial formulas you mentioned. It only needs a little trick:
$$sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n = sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2colorblue-n + n-sqrtn^2+2n$$
Now, consider
begineqnarray* sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-n
& stackreln=sqrt[3]n^3= & fracn^3+3n^2 - n^3(sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2)^2 + nsqrt[3]n^3+3n^2+ n^2\& = & frac3left(sqrt[3]1+frac3nright)^2 + sqrt[3]1+frac3n + 1\
& stackreln to inftylongrightarrow & 1
endeqnarray*
Similarly, you get $n - sqrtn^2+2n stackreln to inftylongrightarrow -1$.
Hence, you get
$$lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-sqrtn^2+2n ) = lim_n to infty (sqrt[3]n^3+3n^2-n ) + lim_n to infty (n-sqrtn^2+2n ) = 1-1 = 0$$
answered May 21 at 3:08
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What have you tried?
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– Robert Shore
May 21 at 0:19
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I factored out n from both radicals but it didn't work and tried to use the identity a^2-b^2 and a^3-b^3.
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– Andrei Umbriță
May 21 at 0:21
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Please edit your question to indicate your attempts (rather than putting that information in the comments). Your question is much more likely to get a positive reception if you do so. We are sensitive to people simply showing up and asking a question without any indication they've put effort into finding the solution for themselves.
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– Robert Shore
May 21 at 0:23
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are you familiar with binomial series?
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– J. W. Tanner
May 21 at 0:27
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Yes, but I would like to see an answer without these or approximations.
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– Andrei Umbriță
May 21 at 0:28