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Solmization with syllables - du da di
What are these aspects of song structure called?Why are the natural notes on the staff special?What is the Hanson system used for?Is there a constant relation between a song notes and its chords progression?Voice-leading and CompositionHow long is Staccato?Recognizing modulation style / pattern in Steely Dan's “West of Hollywood”Help with understanding ABRSM grades?Why intervals are not named after distanceIdentifying chords with multiple extensions
First of all, I am an absolute noob regarding music, so please bear with me.
I am trying to understand an exercise (from my son's school lesson, where teacher seems to be reluctant to explain this in detail ...) about solmization with syllables "du da di". I am giving the solution to the exercise question as an image here: 
The question reads in english like:
Write down the corresponding solmization syllables below the notes.
The question is provided just with the notes, but without the syllables, of course.
I do not understand the rules for when to put what syllable below the notes.
I already did some gooling and searching in here, but could not find a hint about this. Regarding solmization I only find explanation about "do re mi fa so", so it seems to me this "du da di" syllable are some custom stuff.
So my questions are:
What kind of rule is behind this solmization? When do I put which syllable in? Is there any general convention about what syllables will be used (du da di) or is this just a convention that each teacher can agree with their students?
theory
asked May 27 at 18:16
Stefan KornStefan Korn
1284
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First of all, I am an absolute noob regarding music, so please bear with me.
I am trying to understand an exercise (from my son's school lesson, where teacher seems to be reluctant to explain this in detail ...) about solmization with syllables "du da di". I am giving the solution to the exercise question as an image here:
The question reads in english like:
Write down the corresponding solmization syllables below the notes.
The question is provided just with the notes, but without the syllables, of course.
I do not understand the rules for when to put what syllable below the notes.
I already did some gooling and searching in here, but could not find a hint about this. Regarding solmization I only find explanation about "do re mi fa so", so it seems to me this "du da di" syllable are some custom stuff.
So my questions are:
What kind of rule is behind this solmization? When do I put which syllable in? Is there any general convention about what syllables will be used (du da di) or is this just a convention that each teacher can agree with their students?
theory
asked May 27 at 18:16
Stefan KornStefan Korn
1284
2
Kodaly and later, Gordon, came up with rhythmic names for various rhythms (!). It seems very complex and really not that enlightening. Personally, I find it fairly pointless.
– Tim
May 27 at 18:28
Interesting, I didn't know this was done in German-speaking countries. Is this common over there?
– Richard
May 27 at 19:03
add a comment |
First of all, I am an absolute noob regarding music, so please bear with me.
I am trying to understand an exercise (from my son's school lesson, where teacher seems to be reluctant to explain this in detail ...) about solmization with syllables "du da di". I am giving the solution to the exercise question as an image here:
The question reads in english like:
Write down the corresponding solmization syllables below the notes.
The question is provided just with the notes, but without the syllables, of course.
I do not understand the rules for when to put what syllable below the notes.
I already did some gooling and searching in here, but could not find a hint about this. Regarding solmization I only find explanation about "do re mi fa so", so it seems to me this "du da di" syllable are some custom stuff.
So my questions are:
What kind of rule is behind this solmization? When do I put which syllable in? Is there any general convention about what syllables will be used (du da di) or is this just a convention that each teacher can agree with their students?
theory
asked May 27 at 18:16
Stefan KornStefan Korn
1284
First of all, I am an absolute noob regarding music, so please bear with me.
I am trying to understand an exercise (from my son's school lesson, where teacher seems to be reluctant to explain this in detail ...) about solmization with syllables "du da di". I am giving the solution to the exercise question as an image here:
The question reads in english like:
Write down the corresponding solmization syllables below the notes.
The question is provided just with the notes, but without the syllables, of course.
I do not understand the rules for when to put what syllable below the notes.
I already did some gooling and searching in here, but could not find a hint about this. Regarding solmization I only find explanation about "do re mi fa so", so it seems to me this "du da di" syllable are some custom stuff.
So my questions are:
What kind of rule is behind this solmization? When do I put which syllable in? Is there any general convention about what syllables will be used (du da di) or is this just a convention that each teacher can agree with their students?
theory
theory
asked May 27 at 18:16
Stefan KornStefan Korn
1284
asked May 27 at 18:16
Stefan KornStefan Korn
1284
asked May 27 at 18:16
Stefan KornStefan Korn
1284
asked May 27 at 18:16
Stefan KornStefan Korn
1284
asked May 27 at 18:16
Stefan KornStefan Korn
1284
1284
2
Kodaly and later, Gordon, came up with rhythmic names for various rhythms (!). It seems very complex and really not that enlightening. Personally, I find it fairly pointless.
– Tim
May 27 at 18:28
Interesting, I didn't know this was done in German-speaking countries. Is this common over there?
– Richard
May 27 at 19:03
add a comment |
2
Kodaly and later, Gordon, came up with rhythmic names for various rhythms (!). It seems very complex and really not that enlightening. Personally, I find it fairly pointless.
– Tim
May 27 at 18:28
Interesting, I didn't know this was done in German-speaking countries. Is this common over there?
– Richard
May 27 at 19:03
2
2
Kodaly and later, Gordon, came up with rhythmic names for various rhythms (!). It seems very complex and really not that enlightening. Personally, I find it fairly pointless.
– Tim
May 27 at 18:28
Kodaly and later, Gordon, came up with rhythmic names for various rhythms (!). It seems very complex and really not that enlightening. Personally, I find it fairly pointless.
– Tim
May 27 at 18:28
Interesting, I didn't know this was done in German-speaking countries. Is this common over there?
– Richard
May 27 at 19:03
Interesting, I didn't know this was done in German-speaking countries. Is this common over there?
– Richard
May 27 at 19:03
add a comment |
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The names of the notes depend not on their length, but on their position in the measure. The six eighth notes per measure are named:
du da di du da di
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
No matter how long a note is, it gets the name of the position where it starts; e.g. a note which starts on the third eighth note would be a "di":
du da di du da di
♩
di
So the example in the question would become:
du da di du da di du da di du da di du da di du da di
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♩ ♪ ♩ ♪ ♪ ♩ ♩ ♪
du da di du da di du di du di du da du di
I guess it's an exercise in keeping track of where you are in the rhythm, though it would probably be clearer if you sang "o-one three fou-our six" instead of "duuu di duuu di".
answered May 27 at 18:46
Your Uncle BobYour Uncle Bob
2,0001421
1
Counting numbers has worked for me for 60 yrs...
– Tim
May 27 at 19:42
1
@Tim The problem in German is of course that "eins", "zwei" and "drei" all have the same vowel. If a whole class is singing "doo dah dee" you can easily hear (and see) when someone makes a mistake.
– Your Uncle Bob
May 27 at 21:06
I'm guessing it's only a problem counting in German. French, Spanish, English and most other languages don't have numbers that sound similar.
– Tim
May 28 at 6:24
1
More the position in the beat rather than which beat in the measure, I think.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:39
FWIW in the USandA a common method is "One-eee-and-aa; Two-eee-and-aa" for 16th-notes; "One-and-aa,..." for triplets, "One-and" for duplets.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:40
add a comment |
Maybe this helps you to understand it more clearly:
answered May 27 at 19:05
AndyAndy
1,510126
Thanks, this was very helpful. Since only one answer can be marked as solution, I gave it to Uncle Bobs answer, but surely upvoted yours.
– Stefan Korn
May 28 at 4:34
add a comment |
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The names of the notes depend not on their length, but on their position in the measure. The six eighth notes per measure are named:
du da di du da di
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
No matter how long a note is, it gets the name of the position where it starts; e.g. a note which starts on the third eighth note would be a "di":
du da di du da di
♩
di
So the example in the question would become:
du da di du da di du da di du da di du da di du da di
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♩ ♪ ♩ ♪ ♪ ♩ ♩ ♪
du da di du da di du di du di du da du di
I guess it's an exercise in keeping track of where you are in the rhythm, though it would probably be clearer if you sang "o-one three fou-our six" instead of "duuu di duuu di".
answered May 27 at 18:46
Your Uncle BobYour Uncle Bob
2,0001421
1
Counting numbers has worked for me for 60 yrs...
– Tim
May 27 at 19:42
1
@Tim The problem in German is of course that "eins", "zwei" and "drei" all have the same vowel. If a whole class is singing "doo dah dee" you can easily hear (and see) when someone makes a mistake.
– Your Uncle Bob
May 27 at 21:06
I'm guessing it's only a problem counting in German. French, Spanish, English and most other languages don't have numbers that sound similar.
– Tim
May 28 at 6:24
1
More the position in the beat rather than which beat in the measure, I think.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:39
FWIW in the USandA a common method is "One-eee-and-aa; Two-eee-and-aa" for 16th-notes; "One-and-aa,..." for triplets, "One-and" for duplets.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:40
add a comment |
The names of the notes depend not on their length, but on their position in the measure. The six eighth notes per measure are named:
du da di du da di
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
No matter how long a note is, it gets the name of the position where it starts; e.g. a note which starts on the third eighth note would be a "di":
du da di du da di
♩
di
So the example in the question would become:
du da di du da di du da di du da di du da di du da di
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♩ ♪ ♩ ♪ ♪ ♩ ♩ ♪
du da di du da di du di du di du da du di
I guess it's an exercise in keeping track of where you are in the rhythm, though it would probably be clearer if you sang "o-one three fou-our six" instead of "duuu di duuu di".
answered May 27 at 18:46
Your Uncle BobYour Uncle Bob
2,0001421
1
Counting numbers has worked for me for 60 yrs...
– Tim
May 27 at 19:42
1
@Tim The problem in German is of course that "eins", "zwei" and "drei" all have the same vowel. If a whole class is singing "doo dah dee" you can easily hear (and see) when someone makes a mistake.
– Your Uncle Bob
May 27 at 21:06
I'm guessing it's only a problem counting in German. French, Spanish, English and most other languages don't have numbers that sound similar.
– Tim
May 28 at 6:24
1
More the position in the beat rather than which beat in the measure, I think.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:39
FWIW in the USandA a common method is "One-eee-and-aa; Two-eee-and-aa" for 16th-notes; "One-and-aa,..." for triplets, "One-and" for duplets.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:40
add a comment |
The names of the notes depend not on their length, but on their position in the measure. The six eighth notes per measure are named:
du da di du da di
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
No matter how long a note is, it gets the name of the position where it starts; e.g. a note which starts on the third eighth note would be a "di":
du da di du da di
♩
di
So the example in the question would become:
du da di du da di du da di du da di du da di du da di
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♩ ♪ ♩ ♪ ♪ ♩ ♩ ♪
du da di du da di du di du di du da du di
I guess it's an exercise in keeping track of where you are in the rhythm, though it would probably be clearer if you sang "o-one three fou-our six" instead of "duuu di duuu di".
answered May 27 at 18:46
Your Uncle BobYour Uncle Bob
2,0001421
The names of the notes depend not on their length, but on their position in the measure. The six eighth notes per measure are named:
du da di du da di
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
No matter how long a note is, it gets the name of the position where it starts; e.g. a note which starts on the third eighth note would be a "di":
du da di du da di
♩
di
So the example in the question would become:
du da di du da di du da di du da di du da di du da di
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♩ ♪ ♩ ♪ ♪ ♩ ♩ ♪
du da di du da di du di du di du da du di
I guess it's an exercise in keeping track of where you are in the rhythm, though it would probably be clearer if you sang "o-one three fou-our six" instead of "duuu di duuu di".
answered May 27 at 18:46
Your Uncle BobYour Uncle Bob
2,0001421
edited May 28 at 1:41
answered May 27 at 18:46
Your Uncle BobYour Uncle Bob
2,0001421
answered May 27 at 18:46
Your Uncle BobYour Uncle Bob
2,0001421
answered May 27 at 18:46
Your Uncle BobYour Uncle Bob
2,0001421
2,0001421
1
Counting numbers has worked for me for 60 yrs...
– Tim
May 27 at 19:42
1
@Tim The problem in German is of course that "eins", "zwei" and "drei" all have the same vowel. If a whole class is singing "doo dah dee" you can easily hear (and see) when someone makes a mistake.
– Your Uncle Bob
May 27 at 21:06
I'm guessing it's only a problem counting in German. French, Spanish, English and most other languages don't have numbers that sound similar.
– Tim
May 28 at 6:24
1
More the position in the beat rather than which beat in the measure, I think.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:39
FWIW in the USandA a common method is "One-eee-and-aa; Two-eee-and-aa" for 16th-notes; "One-and-aa,..." for triplets, "One-and" for duplets.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:40
add a comment |
1
Counting numbers has worked for me for 60 yrs...
– Tim
May 27 at 19:42
1
@Tim The problem in German is of course that "eins", "zwei" and "drei" all have the same vowel. If a whole class is singing "doo dah dee" you can easily hear (and see) when someone makes a mistake.
– Your Uncle Bob
May 27 at 21:06
I'm guessing it's only a problem counting in German. French, Spanish, English and most other languages don't have numbers that sound similar.
– Tim
May 28 at 6:24
1
More the position in the beat rather than which beat in the measure, I think.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:39
FWIW in the USandA a common method is "One-eee-and-aa; Two-eee-and-aa" for 16th-notes; "One-and-aa,..." for triplets, "One-and" for duplets.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:40
1
1
Counting numbers has worked for me for 60 yrs...
– Tim
May 27 at 19:42
Counting numbers has worked for me for 60 yrs...
– Tim
May 27 at 19:42
1
1
@Tim The problem in German is of course that "eins", "zwei" and "drei" all have the same vowel. If a whole class is singing "doo dah dee" you can easily hear (and see) when someone makes a mistake.
– Your Uncle Bob
May 27 at 21:06
@Tim The problem in German is of course that "eins", "zwei" and "drei" all have the same vowel. If a whole class is singing "doo dah dee" you can easily hear (and see) when someone makes a mistake.
– Your Uncle Bob
May 27 at 21:06
I'm guessing it's only a problem counting in German. French, Spanish, English and most other languages don't have numbers that sound similar.
– Tim
May 28 at 6:24
I'm guessing it's only a problem counting in German. French, Spanish, English and most other languages don't have numbers that sound similar.
– Tim
May 28 at 6:24
1
1
More the position in the beat rather than which beat in the measure, I think.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:39
More the position in the beat rather than which beat in the measure, I think.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:39
FWIW in the USandA a common method is "One-eee-and-aa; Two-eee-and-aa" for 16th-notes; "One-and-aa,..." for triplets, "One-and" for duplets.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:40
FWIW in the USandA a common method is "One-eee-and-aa; Two-eee-and-aa" for 16th-notes; "One-and-aa,..." for triplets, "One-and" for duplets.
– Carl Witthoft
May 28 at 13:40
add a comment |
Maybe this helps you to understand it more clearly:
answered May 27 at 19:05
AndyAndy
1,510126
Thanks, this was very helpful. Since only one answer can be marked as solution, I gave it to Uncle Bobs answer, but surely upvoted yours.
– Stefan Korn
May 28 at 4:34
add a comment |
Maybe this helps you to understand it more clearly:
answered May 27 at 19:05
AndyAndy
1,510126
Thanks, this was very helpful. Since only one answer can be marked as solution, I gave it to Uncle Bobs answer, but surely upvoted yours.
– Stefan Korn
May 28 at 4:34
add a comment |
Maybe this helps you to understand it more clearly:
answered May 27 at 19:05
AndyAndy
1,510126
Maybe this helps you to understand it more clearly:
answered May 27 at 19:05
AndyAndy
1,510126
answered May 27 at 19:05
AndyAndy
1,510126
answered May 27 at 19:05
AndyAndy
1,510126
answered May 27 at 19:05
AndyAndy
1,510126
1,510126
Thanks, this was very helpful. Since only one answer can be marked as solution, I gave it to Uncle Bobs answer, but surely upvoted yours.
– Stefan Korn
May 28 at 4:34
add a comment |
Thanks, this was very helpful. Since only one answer can be marked as solution, I gave it to Uncle Bobs answer, but surely upvoted yours.
– Stefan Korn
May 28 at 4:34
Thanks, this was very helpful. Since only one answer can be marked as solution, I gave it to Uncle Bobs answer, but surely upvoted yours.
– Stefan Korn
May 28 at 4:34
Thanks, this was very helpful. Since only one answer can be marked as solution, I gave it to Uncle Bobs answer, but surely upvoted yours.
– Stefan Korn
May 28 at 4:34
add a comment |
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Kodaly and later, Gordon, came up with rhythmic names for various rhythms (!). It seems very complex and really not that enlightening. Personally, I find it fairly pointless.
– Tim
May 27 at 18:28
Interesting, I didn't know this was done in German-speaking countries. Is this common over there?
– Richard
May 27 at 19:03