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Would an object launched by the Catapult spell do full damage against a Scarecrow?


Are spells that do piercing, bludgeoning, or slashing damage considered magical damage?How can one obtain an adamantine weapon?Damage reduction and damage resistance: how to calculate?How does the Lich's Tether Lair Action interact with damage resistance?What happens when a creature with vulnerability to a damage type has resistance to the same type imposed on it, or vice versa?Is there a cantrip or spell that grants resistance to damage from natural attacks in the way Blade Ward does for weapon damage?Do attacks from Conjure Animals creatures count as magical?Does the Ancestral Guardian barbarian's Ancestral Protectors feature grant resistance against spells such as fireball and toll the dead?Is the war cleric's divine strike considered non-magical damage?Are Flameskulls resistant to magical piercing damage?






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A Wizard uses the spell Catapult (EEPC, p. 15-16; XGtE, p. 150) against a Scarecrow (MM, pg. 268).



Catapult flings an object that is not worn or carried toward a scarecrow and hits.



The scarecrow has damage resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing from nonmagical attacks.



Does Catapult do full damage, or reduced damage in this scenario?










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    A Wizard uses the spell Catapult (EEPC, p. 15-16; XGtE, p. 150) against a Scarecrow (MM, pg. 268).



    Catapult flings an object that is not worn or carried toward a scarecrow and hits.



    The scarecrow has damage resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing from nonmagical attacks.



    Does Catapult do full damage, or reduced damage in this scenario?










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      A Wizard uses the spell Catapult (EEPC, p. 15-16; XGtE, p. 150) against a Scarecrow (MM, pg. 268).



      Catapult flings an object that is not worn or carried toward a scarecrow and hits.



      The scarecrow has damage resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing from nonmagical attacks.



      Does Catapult do full damage, or reduced damage in this scenario?










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      A Wizard uses the spell Catapult (EEPC, p. 15-16; XGtE, p. 150) against a Scarecrow (MM, pg. 268).



      Catapult flings an object that is not worn or carried toward a scarecrow and hits.



      The scarecrow has damage resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing from nonmagical attacks.



      Does Catapult do full damage, or reduced damage in this scenario?







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          The catapult does full damage



          The catapult deals bludgeoning damage. Scarecrow, in its most recent version, has a resistance towards Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing damage from Nonmagical Attacks (emphasis mine; see the monster's stat block on DnDBeyond). Catapult, however, is not an attack as the damage comes from a failed saving throw and not an attack roll, so the resistance does not apply.



          You can find the change to the wording of the resistance in the Global section of the errata document here.






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            So if you used Bigby's hand to push them off a cliff they would take full damage from the fall? This seems to imply that any time you save vs. damage you would not get to apply your resistance.Is this a loophole that is only detrimental to monsters?
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            @Guy Only when the resistance says it's specifically against attacks. If it's a general damage type resistance without such stipulation, the resistance applies against any source of that type of damage.
            $endgroup$
            – kviiri
            May 27 at 20:39











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            Hmm. Well, I don't think I would personally rule this way in my game but the answer looks RAW backed so it shall be accepted!
            $endgroup$
            – Guy
            May 28 at 16:29










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            @Guy Out of curiosity, would you personally rule otherwise for any spell dealing piercing/bludgeoning/slashing damage? Or elemental damage? What's your criteria for what's sourced from magic vs not?
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            – NautArch
            May 28 at 20:00











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            @Guy That's a separate damage situation that deserves its own question, and I think already has one. I am pretty sure that the example question had to do with a werewolf falling off of a cliff. Page 17, right hand column, Sage Advice Compendium
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          The catapult does full damage



          The catapult deals bludgeoning damage. Scarecrow, in its most recent version, has a resistance towards Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing damage from Nonmagical Attacks (emphasis mine; see the monster's stat block on DnDBeyond). Catapult, however, is not an attack as the damage comes from a failed saving throw and not an attack roll, so the resistance does not apply.



          You can find the change to the wording of the resistance in the Global section of the errata document here.






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            $begingroup$
            So if you used Bigby's hand to push them off a cliff they would take full damage from the fall? This seems to imply that any time you save vs. damage you would not get to apply your resistance.Is this a loophole that is only detrimental to monsters?
            $endgroup$
            – Guy
            May 27 at 20:34










          • $begingroup$
            @Guy Only when the resistance says it's specifically against attacks. If it's a general damage type resistance without such stipulation, the resistance applies against any source of that type of damage.
            $endgroup$
            – kviiri
            May 27 at 20:39











          • $begingroup$
            Hmm. Well, I don't think I would personally rule this way in my game but the answer looks RAW backed so it shall be accepted!
            $endgroup$
            – Guy
            May 28 at 16:29










          • $begingroup$
            @Guy Out of curiosity, would you personally rule otherwise for any spell dealing piercing/bludgeoning/slashing damage? Or elemental damage? What's your criteria for what's sourced from magic vs not?
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            May 28 at 20:00











          • $begingroup$
            @Guy That's a separate damage situation that deserves its own question, and I think already has one. I am pretty sure that the example question had to do with a werewolf falling off of a cliff. Page 17, right hand column, Sage Advice Compendium
            $endgroup$
            – KorvinStarmast
            May 28 at 20:31
















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          $begingroup$

          The catapult does full damage



          The catapult deals bludgeoning damage. Scarecrow, in its most recent version, has a resistance towards Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing damage from Nonmagical Attacks (emphasis mine; see the monster's stat block on DnDBeyond). Catapult, however, is not an attack as the damage comes from a failed saving throw and not an attack roll, so the resistance does not apply.



          You can find the change to the wording of the resistance in the Global section of the errata document here.






          share|improve this answer









          $endgroup$








          • 1




            $begingroup$
            So if you used Bigby's hand to push them off a cliff they would take full damage from the fall? This seems to imply that any time you save vs. damage you would not get to apply your resistance.Is this a loophole that is only detrimental to monsters?
            $endgroup$
            – Guy
            May 27 at 20:34










          • $begingroup$
            @Guy Only when the resistance says it's specifically against attacks. If it's a general damage type resistance without such stipulation, the resistance applies against any source of that type of damage.
            $endgroup$
            – kviiri
            May 27 at 20:39











          • $begingroup$
            Hmm. Well, I don't think I would personally rule this way in my game but the answer looks RAW backed so it shall be accepted!
            $endgroup$
            – Guy
            May 28 at 16:29










          • $begingroup$
            @Guy Out of curiosity, would you personally rule otherwise for any spell dealing piercing/bludgeoning/slashing damage? Or elemental damage? What's your criteria for what's sourced from magic vs not?
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            May 28 at 20:00











          • $begingroup$
            @Guy That's a separate damage situation that deserves its own question, and I think already has one. I am pretty sure that the example question had to do with a werewolf falling off of a cliff. Page 17, right hand column, Sage Advice Compendium
            $endgroup$
            – KorvinStarmast
            May 28 at 20:31














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          $begingroup$

          The catapult does full damage



          The catapult deals bludgeoning damage. Scarecrow, in its most recent version, has a resistance towards Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing damage from Nonmagical Attacks (emphasis mine; see the monster's stat block on DnDBeyond). Catapult, however, is not an attack as the damage comes from a failed saving throw and not an attack roll, so the resistance does not apply.



          You can find the change to the wording of the resistance in the Global section of the errata document here.






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          The catapult does full damage



          The catapult deals bludgeoning damage. Scarecrow, in its most recent version, has a resistance towards Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing damage from Nonmagical Attacks (emphasis mine; see the monster's stat block on DnDBeyond). Catapult, however, is not an attack as the damage comes from a failed saving throw and not an attack roll, so the resistance does not apply.



          You can find the change to the wording of the resistance in the Global section of the errata document here.







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          • 1




            $begingroup$
            So if you used Bigby's hand to push them off a cliff they would take full damage from the fall? This seems to imply that any time you save vs. damage you would not get to apply your resistance.Is this a loophole that is only detrimental to monsters?
            $endgroup$
            – Guy
            May 27 at 20:34










          • $begingroup$
            @Guy Only when the resistance says it's specifically against attacks. If it's a general damage type resistance without such stipulation, the resistance applies against any source of that type of damage.
            $endgroup$
            – kviiri
            May 27 at 20:39











          • $begingroup$
            Hmm. Well, I don't think I would personally rule this way in my game but the answer looks RAW backed so it shall be accepted!
            $endgroup$
            – Guy
            May 28 at 16:29










          • $begingroup$
            @Guy Out of curiosity, would you personally rule otherwise for any spell dealing piercing/bludgeoning/slashing damage? Or elemental damage? What's your criteria for what's sourced from magic vs not?
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            May 28 at 20:00











          • $begingroup$
            @Guy That's a separate damage situation that deserves its own question, and I think already has one. I am pretty sure that the example question had to do with a werewolf falling off of a cliff. Page 17, right hand column, Sage Advice Compendium
            $endgroup$
            – KorvinStarmast
            May 28 at 20:31













          • 1




            $begingroup$
            So if you used Bigby's hand to push them off a cliff they would take full damage from the fall? This seems to imply that any time you save vs. damage you would not get to apply your resistance.Is this a loophole that is only detrimental to monsters?
            $endgroup$
            – Guy
            May 27 at 20:34










          • $begingroup$
            @Guy Only when the resistance says it's specifically against attacks. If it's a general damage type resistance without such stipulation, the resistance applies against any source of that type of damage.
            $endgroup$
            – kviiri
            May 27 at 20:39











          • $begingroup$
            Hmm. Well, I don't think I would personally rule this way in my game but the answer looks RAW backed so it shall be accepted!
            $endgroup$
            – Guy
            May 28 at 16:29










          • $begingroup$
            @Guy Out of curiosity, would you personally rule otherwise for any spell dealing piercing/bludgeoning/slashing damage? Or elemental damage? What's your criteria for what's sourced from magic vs not?
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            May 28 at 20:00











          • $begingroup$
            @Guy That's a separate damage situation that deserves its own question, and I think already has one. I am pretty sure that the example question had to do with a werewolf falling off of a cliff. Page 17, right hand column, Sage Advice Compendium
            $endgroup$
            – KorvinStarmast
            May 28 at 20:31








          1




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          $begingroup$
          So if you used Bigby's hand to push them off a cliff they would take full damage from the fall? This seems to imply that any time you save vs. damage you would not get to apply your resistance.Is this a loophole that is only detrimental to monsters?
          $endgroup$
          – Guy
          May 27 at 20:34




          $begingroup$
          So if you used Bigby's hand to push them off a cliff they would take full damage from the fall? This seems to imply that any time you save vs. damage you would not get to apply your resistance.Is this a loophole that is only detrimental to monsters?
          $endgroup$
          – Guy
          May 27 at 20:34












          $begingroup$
          @Guy Only when the resistance says it's specifically against attacks. If it's a general damage type resistance without such stipulation, the resistance applies against any source of that type of damage.
          $endgroup$
          – kviiri
          May 27 at 20:39





          $begingroup$
          @Guy Only when the resistance says it's specifically against attacks. If it's a general damage type resistance without such stipulation, the resistance applies against any source of that type of damage.
          $endgroup$
          – kviiri
          May 27 at 20:39













          $begingroup$
          Hmm. Well, I don't think I would personally rule this way in my game but the answer looks RAW backed so it shall be accepted!
          $endgroup$
          – Guy
          May 28 at 16:29




          $begingroup$
          Hmm. Well, I don't think I would personally rule this way in my game but the answer looks RAW backed so it shall be accepted!
          $endgroup$
          – Guy
          May 28 at 16:29












          $begingroup$
          @Guy Out of curiosity, would you personally rule otherwise for any spell dealing piercing/bludgeoning/slashing damage? Or elemental damage? What's your criteria for what's sourced from magic vs not?
          $endgroup$
          – NautArch
          May 28 at 20:00





          $begingroup$
          @Guy Out of curiosity, would you personally rule otherwise for any spell dealing piercing/bludgeoning/slashing damage? Or elemental damage? What's your criteria for what's sourced from magic vs not?
          $endgroup$
          – NautArch
          May 28 at 20:00













          $begingroup$
          @Guy That's a separate damage situation that deserves its own question, and I think already has one. I am pretty sure that the example question had to do with a werewolf falling off of a cliff. Page 17, right hand column, Sage Advice Compendium
          $endgroup$
          – KorvinStarmast
          May 28 at 20:31





          $begingroup$
          @Guy That's a separate damage situation that deserves its own question, and I think already has one. I am pretty sure that the example question had to do with a werewolf falling off of a cliff. Page 17, right hand column, Sage Advice Compendium
          $endgroup$
          – KorvinStarmast
          May 28 at 20:31


















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